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Title: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: Dichotomy on July 15, 2011, 01:31:32 PM
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2243176

Warning some strong language. 
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: Dragon on July 15, 2011, 01:41:44 PM
Oh the huge Manatee!



Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: 68Hawk on July 15, 2011, 01:53:05 PM
A single can of Raid would have worked nicely, and not destroyed the swingset...
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: morfiend on July 15, 2011, 02:03:21 PM
 Here's an idea,why not just leave them alone! they wont harm you if you dont disturb them.


  We are loosing bees at an alarming rate and this isnt good for the farmers.








     :salute
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: BrownBaron on July 15, 2011, 02:10:20 PM
Here's an idea,why not just leave them alone! they wont harm you if you dont disturb them.


  We are loosing bees at an alarming rate and this isnt good for the farmers.






     :salute

Yep, thems is honey bees, the more docile, valuable kind. Ah well, still an interesting post.
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: Tank-Ace on July 15, 2011, 02:23:50 PM
Oh thats good. I love watching rednecks and their antics  :lol.


Correct solution: wet or dry suit (if you have one), wide brimed hat with very fine mesh draped over it, and tucked into the neck of your suit, gloves, and a few cans of raid.
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: morfiend on July 15, 2011, 02:35:11 PM



Correct solution: wet or dry suit (if you have one), wide brimed hat with very fine mesh draped over it, and tucked into the neck of your suit, gloves, and a few cans of raid.


 Wrong,correct solution,call animal control they will send a bee keeper and he will have the startings for a new hive!

  thats the correct thing to do.




    :salute
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: Tank-Ace on July 15, 2011, 02:36:29 PM
Well sure, if you wanna do things the boring way, and aren't drunk  :D.
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: Dichotomy on July 15, 2011, 02:55:41 PM
Is it okay to blow up wood bees that attack your dogs?
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: Bodhi on July 15, 2011, 03:07:08 PM
We are loosing bees at an alarming rate and this isnt good for the farmers.


Just an fyi....

The honey bee decline was caused by a parasite that was getting into their (for lack of a better word) air intake.  They are treating the bees to prevent the parasite from killing them and having remarkable success.  My uncle raises bees and has around 30 - 40 hives last time I checked.  He was real concerned for awhile, but feels that the corner has been turned.
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: Tyrannis on July 15, 2011, 03:15:02 PM
Ive never had a problem with bees stinging me.

Infact, i have a wasp nest right in the corner of my front door, i jokingly call them my "home defense". there was 2, but lately ive only seen one around.
One night i was bored, walked outside and had a "discussion" with the wasp, and told it as long as it didn't sting me, i didn't have a problem with it being up there.


So far it hasent bothered me at all, ive stood right under it, next to it, and it doesnt lunge at me. it keeps an eye on me, but in a weird way, i think it understood what i said  :huh


i was always told that Bee's/Wasps are like humans, just like Humans get aggravated if you punch them, Bees/Wasps get aggravated if you swing at them. so if you have one around you then just stand still and wait for it to fly away.
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: Delirium on July 15, 2011, 03:19:13 PM
i was always told that Bee's/Wasps are like humans,

Funny... I have never been stung by a 40lb Dodge Caravan trailer hitch.   :D
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: M0nkey_Man on July 15, 2011, 03:28:47 PM
+1 with the gasoline mushroom cloud :lol
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: Pigslilspaz on July 15, 2011, 05:50:06 PM
I would have been out of my mind there. To me, there are few things that make me freak the hell out, bees/wasps/hornets are most of those things. Also being slightly allergic to yellow jacket venom doesn't help.
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: RTHolmes on July 15, 2011, 06:41:14 PM
I'll bet those guys watched Idiocracy and didnt think its about them.
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: SIK1 on July 15, 2011, 07:01:13 PM
Funny... I have never been stung by a 40lb Dodge Caravan trailer hitch.   :D

 :rofl

I'll bet those guys watched Idiocracy and didnt think its about them.

 :rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :aok
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: fbEagle on July 15, 2011, 11:00:32 PM
too bad there wasnt a hive cuz a 12guage works quite nicely at helping bees remodel. He also seemed to be in a suburb of some sort so i gues that wouldnt work...  :headscratch: Im outa ideas!
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: morfiend on July 16, 2011, 12:50:14 AM

Just an fyi....

The honey bee decline was caused by a parasite that was getting into their (for lack of a better word) air intake.  They are treating the bees to prevent the parasite from killing them and having remarkable success.  My uncle raises bees and has around 30 - 40 hives last time I checked.  He was real concerned for awhile, but feels that the corner has been turned.


 That is good to know!







    :salute
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: Blackwulf on July 16, 2011, 05:33:42 AM
Unfortunately in many states, calling for a beekeeper to pick up the hive is pointless, as they will refuse.  Due to the paranoia about Africanized bees, many keepers assume the worse in a wild hive and won't take them.  I had to destroy a hive that was taking over a storage shed about 10 years ago, after contacting several beekeepers in the area (Arizona) and getting that same answer. 

As it was still a bit chilly in the mornings, I just went out at dawn while they were still too cold to do much about it, walked into the shed, set off a bug bomb and came back in an hour or so. If they had taken up residence in a better spot, I'd have been happy to leave them alone other than to collect a bit of "rent" every year :D   I wasn't too happy about the whole deal, but I did what I had to do.

Wasps I generally leave alone unless they are causing damage, and have never had any problems.  But carpenter bees are a whole 'nother story.  Those things cause big damage fast, and I have a constant battle with them.
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: Puma44 on July 16, 2011, 12:46:00 PM
Is it okay to blow up wood bees that attack your dogs?

Attacking your dogs?!  Nuke em til they glow!  :O
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: Tupac on July 16, 2011, 02:59:31 PM
 :D score 1 for America!
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: CAP1 on July 16, 2011, 09:25:26 PM
i have issues with bees. been stung waaayyyy too many times. one time was my fault.......the rest weren't.......don't like em, don't care if they vanished off the planet tomorrow.
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: mechanic on July 16, 2011, 09:50:31 PM
Just like if you get ho'ed in AH, if you get stung by honey bees, it's always your fault.
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: Dichotomy on July 16, 2011, 10:44:58 PM
I beg to differ.

I have been attacked by bees and I wasn't doing a dang thing to them.  Granted they were wood bees which are nasty soul less creatures (like the muppets) who attack without provocation.  But they attacked none the less. 

So I nuked them with 2 gallons of gasoline and a match.  Fortunately I ran really fast before I got a crosstie enema.  :D
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: mechanic on July 17, 2011, 12:16:02 AM
You didn't notice the swarm of insects coming for you? Your Fault!  :t

Once when we disturbed a wasp's nest outside my bedroom window my younger brother and I killed a queen or someone important because 200 wasps swarmed into the space between the double glazing as the outside window was open on one section but luckily the inside slide panels were closed. After ten or so mins they stopped coming and were all buzzing around in the double glazing space so we opened the inside section a crack and sprayed bug killer in there and watched them all slowly dying. It was brutal and evil but they were after our blood vTard style. We christened it Wasp Auschwitz. We were pretty high at the time.
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: Dichotomy on July 17, 2011, 10:56:46 AM
I could be wrong but I don't think you're supposed to sniff the bug spray :D
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: b4o2s9s on July 17, 2011, 03:26:15 PM
Can of WD-40 and a lighter does the trick pretty nicely  :rock
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: Nypsy on July 17, 2011, 04:29:19 PM
I am all for live and let live as far as bees are concerned but when you have a swarm like that guy had you have to do something.
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: Sonicblu on July 17, 2011, 10:38:16 PM
When I was a kid we had a swarm of bees about three times that size on a tree limb.

Step dad got a bee box from neighbor set be box under swarm .

I was then told to climb ladder and scrap bees of limb with bare hand.     Huh?

Anyway my brothers were to put lid on the bee box after,  " the bees just fall straight down into the box"

 I was more afraid of wooppin than getting stung after trying to argue against the idea. I was told I wouldn't get stung..

So I scrape the bees off limb and they dropped right into box queen and all.

I did get stung twice though.

Anyway turns out they just more interested I surrounding queen. Queen escapes and the bees surround her to keep her from getting away.
 :banana: :banana: :banana:
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: Babalonian on July 18, 2011, 02:02:05 PM
When I was a kid we had a swarm of bees about three times that size on a tree limb.

Step dad got a bee box from neighbor set be box under swarm .

I was then told to climb ladder and scrap bees of limb with bare hand.     Huh?

Anyway my brothers were to put lid on the bee box after,  " the bees just fall straight down into the box"

 I was more afraid of wooppin than getting stung after trying to argue against the idea. I was told I wouldn't get stung..

So I scrape the bees off limb and they dropped right into box queen and all.

I did get stung twice though.

Anyway turns out they just more interested I surrounding queen. Queen escapes and the bees surround her to keep her from getting away.
 :banana: :banana: :banana:

I believe I've heard that those type of swarms are colonies on the move or a new colony and queen splitting off from a larger and older colony.  They are simply taking a breather/break while a few of the bees scout out the local area for a nice new home.  You are right though, the majority of them are purely interested in just surrounding and huddling up around the queen.  They cluster up on the queen to keep her warm and safe until they've found a new home and moved in, during the "warmth of love" hug they're pretty unagressive, unless disturbed and threatened enough.  I forget if this is all instictive or if the queen is triggering it via hormones or something.

The most recent article I read was earlier this year was on this type of swarming and how during these type of swarms the scouting bees go out and on the hunt for the best new home of the entire hive.  If they find something they like, they return to the swarm that's hanging out and waiting somewhere, and they do a "dance" that does two things - gives directions to the others and rates the potential home (think of a 1-10 scale scoring system).  If they give it a high rating, other scouts and bees in the resting swarm take notice and follow the direction to check it out.  Once they've checked it out and have come to their own bad/good/great/fantastic personal judgement, they return to the swarm and repeat the dance (if it's good enough to go back and brag to the others about, so to say).  This in turns gets more scouts and bees to notice, and so even more go to check it out and then come back and give it their rating. 

This goes on and on, until eventualy this rather primitive democratic proccess has persuaded most of the swarm and queen to pay attention to the directions and go check it out for themselves, and finally with the queens decision to move in and establish it as the new home (likely for the rest of the queen's life) and best choice for their hive.
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: RTHolmes on July 18, 2011, 02:06:46 PM
^ interesting, didnt know about the rating thing :aok

I am all for live and let live as far as bees are concerned but when you have a swarm like that guy had you have to do something.

yeah like leave em alone for a day or 2 til they move on ...
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: CAP1 on July 18, 2011, 02:17:43 PM
bees make nests in inconvient places. i've been attacked, simply going to a car next to the one where the nest is.....and a car doesn't need to set more than a day or two, before those little effers are nested in there.

 no thanks.......if there's a nest......carb cleaner to the rescue.  :aok
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: F22RaptorDude on July 18, 2011, 02:41:03 PM
Is it okay to kill wasps and hornets? I saw a creepy looking one with a long black body, skinny in the middle linking, and bright blue eyes, needless to say I refused to go into my back yard for a while after that.
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: RTHolmes on July 18, 2011, 03:12:07 PM
bees make nests in inconvient places. i've been attacked, simply going to a car next to the one where the nest is.....and a car doesn't need to set more than a day or two, before those little effers are nested in there.

 no thanks.......if there's a nest......carb cleaner to the rescue.  :aok

that was a swarm, not a nest.

most people think bees are kinda useful if you like honey. they are much more important than that. if you like eating anything on this list (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_crop_plants_pollinated_by_bees) then you should be trying to keep em alive, not wipe em out. theres hardly any wild bees left, and the kept bees have been ravaged over the last few years. All of my godmother's husband's hives were wiped out coupla years ago, same story all over europe (and the US iirc.)

trust me, I'm no eco-hippie but this stuff is worrying when food supply is already a problem. have you noticed how much the price of basic foods has gone up over the last decade or so? its not a blip, its a trend ... :uhoh


edit: exception for the africanised bees. theres a lesson in them.
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: RTHolmes on July 18, 2011, 03:17:37 PM
Just an fyi....

The honey bee decline was caused by a parasite that was getting into their (for lack of a better word) air intake.  They are treating the bees to prevent the parasite from killing them and having remarkable success.  My uncle raises bees and has around 30 - 40 hives last time I checked.  He was real concerned for awhile, but feels that the corner has been turned.

I havent heard about that, must be very recent. last summer was another disastrous year for beekeepers over here.
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: TwinBoom on July 18, 2011, 03:22:52 PM

We are loosing bees at an alarming rate and this isnt good for the farmer

true no bees = no food
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: CAP1 on July 18, 2011, 03:33:17 PM
that was a swarm, not a nest.

most people think bees are kinda useful if you like honey. they are much more important than that. if you like eating anything on this list (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_crop_plants_pollinated_by_bees) then you should be trying to keep em alive, not wipe em out. theres hardly any wild bees left, and the kept bees have been ravaged over the last few years. All of my godmother's husband's hives were wiped out coupla years ago, same story all over europe (and the US iirc.)

trust me, I'm no eco-hippie but this stuff is worrying when food supply is already a problem. have you noticed how much the price of basic foods has gone up over the last decade or so? its not a blip, its a trend ... :uhoh


edit: exception for the africanised bees. theres a lesson in them.

 food's going up due to increased fuel prices. as are most things.

 i got no issues with kept honey bees. bees, regardless of species out in the wild,,,or bothering me when i'm trr trying to repair a car......they die. quickly. if they stayed away from me, they wouldn't. i don't just go looking for nests or swarms to kill. i kill em when they bother me.
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: RTHolmes on July 18, 2011, 03:43:37 PM
I probably shouldnt have quoted you there CAP, it was more of a general comment :)

food/fuel ... its all down to population.
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: Rash on July 18, 2011, 06:49:29 PM
I was stung by a caterpillar on the way to junior high.  The nurse thought I was nuts.  Put a big whelp on my arm.  http://www.ca.uky.edu/entomology/entfacts/ef003.asp

Rash
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: F22RaptorDude on July 18, 2011, 06:53:56 PM
I was stung by a caterpillar on the way to junior high.  The nurse thought I was nuts.  Put a big whelp on my arm.  http://www.ca.uky.edu/entomology/entfacts/ef003.asp

Rash
Yikes, how did it manage to sting you?
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: Rash on July 18, 2011, 06:55:56 PM
Climbed a fence and brush against a tree.
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: F22RaptorDude on July 18, 2011, 07:06:21 PM
Climbed a fence and brush against a tree.
Yikes, i've been cornered by a group of wasps before, went to go see if a friend was home at my old neighborhood and a couple of wasps hovered above the stairs and I was stranded for a few minutes until my dad came. Nasty lil bugs they have a nest on a corner on our roof that is hard to access, needless to say i'm terrified of em even though i've never been stung.
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: morfiend on July 19, 2011, 06:06:30 PM
true no bees = no food

 Yes my exact point,for the most part bees do more good than harm and if left alone they are no threat. The reason for the swarm has been stated already,basically it's a new queen looking for a new home. The queen secretes a substance called royal jelly,this is used by beekeepers to attach and calm the swarm and make capture quite easy.

  The swarm is relatively docile and you could likely sweep them away if they were in a place that made entery to your home difficult. Wasps and hornets also polinate though not on a scale of the honeybee,they can be a threat and should be dealt with with caution. I install fake hornet nests around my yard,2 will cover my whole yard and since they are teritorial they move on to an area that isnt habitated,like the neighboors yard!

  So is it ok to kill hormnets or wasps,well thats up to you,if it's a threat or doing damage I say of course but to needlessly kill them because your afraid ....Well come to your own conclusion.






    :salute
Title: Re: This has to be a guy from here
Post by: B-17 on July 19, 2011, 06:38:03 PM
:rofl I almost died laughing reading this... I'm a terrible person, I know. I just use waterguns... against wasps. :devil