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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Vulcan on July 22, 2011, 07:27:23 PM
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Thoughts are with you guys, I know we have a strong Norwegian contingent in AH - and a lot of kiwi's relate to Norway.
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Sad times. Thoughts and prayers to the victims and survivors. :(
I heard on the news they made an arrest at the scene of the shooting. I hope they can get some answers.
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Latest reports are much much worse then previously thought. They are saying 80 dead on the island where the shooting happened.
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I bet the car bomb was to drawn police attention away from the kids summer camp on the island.... :(
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I bet the car bomb was to drawn police attention away from the kids summer camp on the island.... :(
The suspect appaently was dressed as a police officer and claimed he was at the island to add security in the wake of the bombing. So, the bombing was definitely part of his overall plan. I suspect that he expected to kill more people with the bomb then he did. It is simply shocking that he killed as many as he did on the island.
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The vast majority of those on the island were just kids at a summer camp. I am sure there were some adult running it, but it isn't the kind of place anybody is going to have weapons. Also, there was no way off of the island other than to try to swim the 3/4th of a mile to the mainland.
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That is correct. Noone at a political youth camp would have weapons. Horrible day and it keeps getting worse as numbers are beening adjusted upwards. 80 will not be the final count.
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My thoughts and prayers for the families and friends. Glad you're okay Nilson.
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I is terrible, looks like we got a "Oklahoma bomber" over here aswell. Diffrence was that it was a decoy for the shooting of all of the kids at the summer camp Island.
He had 2 hours chasing and shooting people at the Island, my heart is crying today.
I dont understand how much damage and death, one nazi idiot actually can be able to perform.
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Our thoughts are with you and your country. Terrible news. If anyone there knows SAJ73 outside of the game please see if he and his family are safe. I have tried to contact him but don't have a phone number.
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Sorry for Norway's loss. Tragic and Senseless.
<S> Oz
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I'm off to Norway for a wedding in 2 weeks. My love goes out to all the victims and families :(
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I can't imagine what those kids were going through on that island.
The Norwegian PM was due to make a speech there and was the most likely target. It sickens me to think that the people who end up dying are always the most vulnerable innocent civilians in the wrong place at the wrong time.
My thoughts go out to their families and friends.
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Our thoughts are with you and your country. Terrible news. If anyone there knows SAJ73 outside of the game please see if he and his family are safe. I have tried to contact him but don't have a phone number.
I am allright nrshida, shocked but allright.. I still have not got the grasp around the total facts here, its too unbelieveable.. 99 dead so far, mostly young teens in a summer camp?! What's happening to the world we live in?!
But the politics in Norway are partly to blame I am sure, this was just one person that got enough.. Imagine when the entire nation decides they've had it?!? :uhoh
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I am allright nrshida, shocked but allright.. I still have not got the grasp around the total facts here, its too unbelieveable.. 99 dead so far, mostly young teens in a summer camp?! What's happening to the world we live in?!
But the politics in Norway are partly to blame I am sure, this was just one person that got enough.. Imagine when the entire nation decides they've had it?!? :uhoh
92 so far. Long before the entire nation decides they have had it the government will be replaced BY ELECTION. This was one or maybe a few nutters. Even thinking that more of this will follow when more have had it with the current politics is taking it very far. This incident could have happened even if only ONE nutter had it with the current politics. It _only takes one_
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I is terrible, looks like we got a "Oklahoma bomber" over here aswell. Diffrence was that it was a decoy for the shooting of all of the kids at the summer camp Island.
He had 2 hours chasing and shooting people at the Island, my heart is crying today.
I dont understand how much damage and death, one nazi idiot actually can be able to perform.
Sad news, don't understand why.
Remember, the bomber in Oklahoma City, wasn't from Oklahoma. Hope the same is true in Norway.
Rash
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92 so far. Long before the entire nation decides they have had it the government will be replaced BY ELECTION. This was one or maybe a few nutters. Even thinking that more of this will follow when more have had it with the current politics is taking it very far. This incident could have happened even if only ONE nutter had it with the current politics. It _only takes one_
Yes, I did take it very far by saying the entire nation would go bananas. It was just a reaction of frustration over this nutcase killing all those innocent kids. Nothing in the world could ever justify what he have just done.
The number of dead is changing by the hour, now it is down to 84?
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Prayers sent for the people of Norway.
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Yes, I did take it very far by saying the entire nation would go bananas. It was just a reaction of frustration over this nutcase killing all those innocent kids. Nothing in the world could ever justify what he have just done.
The number of dead is changing by the hour, now it is down to 84?
As far as i can see its 85 on ut?ya + 7 in oslo = 92 but many are still missing
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As far as i can see its 85 on ut?ya + 7 in oslo = 92 but many are still missing
Yes you are right, now it says ATLEAST 85 killed on ut?ya, plus the 7 in Oslo.. Lets hope the missing ones turns up in good condition, even if the chances are slim.. This is just too crazy to grasp..
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I hope most turn up ok. We had a tornado near here this spring. A lot of people were missing for the first few days, most turned out to be Ok.
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My thoughts and prayers for the families and friends. Glad you're okay Nilsen.
Repeated because well said.
Sad day.
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Due to the high number of religious and politic nutjobs that are shooting, blowing up, even stoning people to death nowadays, nothing is suprising to me.
However, R.I.P to the victims on both events.
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Just a horrible, senseless act. My heart and prayers go out to you guys
:salute :pray
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:pray
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What a tragedy, all those lifes. While watching some of the interviews of the kids that escaped the massacre, i was thinking about my daughter (she is 18 and politically involved) couldn't hold back the tears. But maybe something good will come out from all this sorrow. Maybe ( i hope), that here in Denmark our politicians (expecially them from the right wing) and we the peolpe, will learn something from it. Yesterday several of them on tv, condemning the muslim terrorists or the islamic extremist, today none to be found on any channel. I hope they (and we, the people) will learn something positive and constructive from all this.
p.s. good to see you are okay SAJ.
IENA
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p.s. good to see you are okay SAJ.
IENA
Thank you IENA, good to see you too by the way. Been awhile. Take care. :salute
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Completely horrible.
And what an arse. I volunteer as the hangman for this nuthead. Cold blooded youth killer and a neo-nazi to spice it ... yeacchhhh!!! :mad:
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a truly tragic event, my thoughts are with the people of Norway.
as I understand it the maximum tarif in Norway is 21yrs, meaning he'll be due for release at 53yrs old. he should die in prison for murdering scores of people, mostly children in cold blood ...
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I was completely shocked that something like this happened in Norway.
Prayers to the innocent folks harmed by cowards.
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a truly tragic event, my thoughts are with the people of Norway.
as I understand it the maximum tarif in Norway is 21yrs, meaning he'll be due for release at 53yrs old. he should die in prison for murdering scores of people, mostly children in cold blood ...
Yes and no. It is possible in theory to get life because you can be sentanced to something called safekeeping. It means that after 10 years they can say that you are not safe for society and you get an extra year or 10 in a prison or similar place. This they can do until he dies or is too old to do any harm. Afew are serving their time in this manner not knowing when of if they will ever get out.
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This guy likes to think of himself as a modern knight templar according to the news reports about his web site. Rather than warehouse his useless carcass I have a better idea. Dress him like a knight crusader from the 14th century, give him a single shot .22 rifle and 2 rounds of .22 shorts then drop him in the middle of the hottest location in afghanistan to carry out his holy war.
:mad:
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safekeeping etc ...
ok thanks, I was hoping there would be something like that.
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I think that people who do things such as this deserve to die immediately in a most painful way, having them sit in the luxury of prison doesn't seem as much a consequence to actions as it should be. People who kill in cold blood don't deserve to live.
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He will be looking over his shoulders and worry about every day for the rest of his life and if it sinks in for him what he has actually done the punishment for him will be even worse. Death is the easy way out...IMO. Most of the inmates he will see in jail unless he is kept in solitary will be the people he hates the most. The remaining days or years of his life will be no joy ride in a luxury cell.
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I don't know if Norway has death pently or not, but if not, then it is time to reconsider and strap him in first, literally.
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I don't know if Norway has death pently or not, but if not, then it is time to reconsider and strap him in first, literally.
no and no
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Holy ****, I just heard about this last evening. It is not even terrorism, just a man going bonkers in the worst possible way. I can't possibly think of a fitting punishment.
Most of the inmates he will see in jail unless he is kept in solitary will be the people he hates the most.
Maybe that is the answer.
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Number of killed have now been reduced to a total of 76. That is 68 at the island and 8 in the government buildigs. More are still missing and they have not finished searching the government buildings or the sea around the island where the massacre took place. Small but good news.
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Completely horrible.
And what an arse. I volunteer as the hangman for this nuthead. Cold blooded youth killer and a neo-nazi to spice it ... yeacchhhh!!! :mad:
Death by a thousand cuts is more merciful than what he deserves. :pray ing for Norway.
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no and no
I would never want to see someone put to death over a "all evidence points to it" type of case, but when you have the guy for sure, and everyone knows it was him, Id have to say Id buy tickets to the execution. He needs to be made an example of. A slow painful humiliating death.
If you think he'd ever mull it over in the decades to come of expensive imprisonment and think one day "What a monster I was, Im so sorry, this is so painful to me I wish I was dead!" you are crazy.
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You are entitled to your opinion. The kids who were the victims of the shooting do not share your opinion and neither do the norwegian people in general.
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Disregard - someone asked it on the same page.
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Thoughts are with you guys, I know we have a strong Norwegian contingent in AH - and a lot of kiwi's relate to Norway.
Hello. I live in Oslo and I can confirm that in these moments are filled with sorrow. Many have cried tears of blood, but time heal all wounds. Wounds that will be filled with love. Thanks to all who send us warm thoughts, that we appreciate. We will be stronger together.
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You are entitled to your opinion. The kids who were the victims of the shooting do not share your opinion and neither do the norwegian people in general.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43873009/ns/world_news-europe/t/norways-mass-killer-pursuing-anti-islam-crusade/from/toolbar?GT1=43001
seems there are two more cells possibly also.
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43873009/ns/world_news-europe/t/norways-mass-killer-pursuing-anti-islam-crusade/from/toolbar?GT1=43001
seems there are two more cells possibly also.
Yes he has said that there are more cells. Noone yet knows if this is fact or just something going on in his own twisted head. None of the intelligence services at home or abroad have any knowledge of these cells. One of the reasons for not holding todays hearings open to the public is that they fear that IF there are any more cells he could use those hearings to communicate to them using code.
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You are entitled to your opinion. The kids who were the victims of the shooting do not share your opinion and neither do the norwegian people in general.
I bet more than a couple wished he was dead instead of them. Just sayin.
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This guy likes to think of himself as a modern knight templar according to the news reports about his web site. Rather than warehouse his useless carcass I have a better idea. Dress him like a knight crusader from the 14th century, give him a single shot .22 rifle and 2 rounds of .22 shorts then drop him in the middle of the hottest location in afghanistan to carry out his holy war.
:mad:
How bout a black powder pistol? with wet powder.
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Condolences seems such a weak word .. I try to imagine if it had been my kids on the island.
If it meant goin to jail for gutting him like a trout on the courthouse steps, so be it.
But .. that's just me.
-Frank aka GE
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My best wishes to our Norwegian friends here and to the people of Norway. I am especially sad for the kids.
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Condolences seems such a weak word .. I try to imagine if it had been my kids on the island.
If it meant goin to jail for gutting him like a trout on the courthouse steps, so be it.
But .. that's just me.
-Frank aka GE
OORAH!
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I found this youth camp interesting. Some kind of orientation camp for kids. On the outside it looks like the old german youth camps. Is that normal over there?
It doesn't change my thoughts one bit on the slime that shot all those kids but it was interesting news. I did not know any free country practiced that type of youth orientation.
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See Rule #14
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Every political party in Norway has a youth organization. And no.... dont listen to Glenn Beck for obvious reasons
Glen Beck? What has he to do with my thoughs? Is he involved in the orientations in Norway?
I just found it odd that a country would have simular orientation facilities for kids.
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Probably no different than church youth groups, the Boy Scouts, band camp, etc etc. This guy deserves to spend some nice quiet time behind bars for 2 weeks then get lynched by the victim's families.
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Probably no different than This guy deserves to spend some nice quiet time behind bars for 2 weeks then get lynched by the victim's families.
From what I read on fox and cnn they are nothing like church youth groups, the Boy Scouts, band camp, etc etc.
Anyway I was just posting about it as I thought it shocking.
I did not mean to steer the thread away from the slime that killed the kids. I can't post what I would do to him if it were one of mine.
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From what I read on fox and cnn they are nothing like church youth groups, the Boy Scouts, band camp, etc etc.
Anyway I was just posting about it as I thought it shocking.
I did not mean to steer the thread away from the slime that killed the kids. I can't post what I would do to him if it were one of mine.
Go to wikipedia and search for youth politics
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Go to wikipedia and search for youth politics
Never wikipedia... folks put what they want there.
Doesn't matter just thought it odd the parallels. They are just kids. They should be taught something useful and let them develope their own ideas.
Scary stuff indeed.
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Never wikipedia... folks put what they want there.
Doesn't matter just thought it odd the parallels. They are just kids. They should be taught something useful and let them develope their own ideas.
Scary stuff indeed.
Like religion, boy-scouts etc? Can't you find a different thread to take shots at other countries and publish your views on what children should and should not be taught? I think your Nazi Germany parallel was disrespectful enough. No need to post again, we get it :aok
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Never wikipedia... folks put what they want there.
Doesn't matter just thought it odd the parallels. They are just kids. They should be taught something useful and let them develope their own ideas.
Scary stuff indeed.
These are not indoctrination camps that can be compared to those in germany way back. This organization got started in 1926. They dont wear uniforms, they dont march, shoot or riot. They are forums for kids who are into politics and interested in making a difference, to discuss and get to know democratic processes. I think its very commendable that kids are interested in these things rather than all the other crap they could spend their time with. And to not read wikipedia, but get your info from FOX :huh
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See Rule #14
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Words can't express the sorrow we feel, even here in Kansas USA. Man the families of the innocents feel the outpouring of the worlds blessings and be shielded from those who blame the children and families. There are more nuts than just the one that got captured is seems. God Bless Norway in this time of sorrow.