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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: fullmetalbullet on July 25, 2011, 10:31:11 AM
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Anyone planning on seeing the new season?
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Yep its an interesting show that has all kinds of crazy things in it and keep me up late at night when I watch it on DVR.
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yes!
i like the series, very entertaining stuff, and some things are really scary :D
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Overall I like season 1. Some truly odd things out there. Personally, I think they are a little quick to go the "alien" route on some of this stuff. But overal, not bad. Thought provoking is how I would put it.
Haven't seen season 2 yet. Was waiting for blu-ray of it. Can't stand all the commercials on the History Channel, so I just wait for the season to come out on disc.
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I find it disturbing how many times they use Daniken as a reliable source. The man was a hoaxer and he admitted to making up a lot of his stuff just to sell books.
..and also, it pisses me off that they spend more than half the episode repeating the same thing over and over again... just re-worded. Mojo-jojo narrator. :bhead
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..and also, it pisses me off that they spend more than half the episode repeating the same thing over and over again... just re-worded. Mojo-jojo narrator. :bhead
They took the Dogfights approach
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im too scared and im afraid il pee my pants
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Pumupunku
14,000 year old 800 ton granite and dyarite blocks cut and grooved with the precision of lasers...by indians who couldn't read or write...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIBnN7CfDC4
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Pumupunku
14,000 year old 800 ton granite and dyarite blocks cut and grooved with the precision of lasers...by indians who couldn't read or write...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIBnN7CfDC4
OMG.... SO I"M NOT ALONE!!!!! :rofl :rofl
been trying to get people to watch it since but you know the skepticism of humans..fearing what they dun know...... seriously... the flatted mountain tops like runways man made?????? with anceint tools???? machupitchu??? man... we are seriously not alone...
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Whether or not you want to believe it is still a pretty entertaining show. :noid
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Pumupunku
14,000 year old 800 ton granite and dyarite blocks cut and grooved with the precision of lasers...by indians who couldn't read or write...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIBnN7CfDC4
Aren't some of the biggest monoliths in the world, in Lebanon?
They claim the nephilium made them.
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Whether or not you want to believe it is still a pretty entertaining show. :noid
Agreed. I don't agree with them that aliens did it all but there some pretty interesting stuff that makes you go 'how did they do that?!?!?!?!?'
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They do explain some amazing stuff, but I think it's silly to give the credits to E.T. who we all remember could only build telephones.
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Pumapunku is only explained by two options:
1) The hand of God**
2) Alien Technology**
** (might be one in the same)
There is no way that an illiterate tribe of Indians who had no knowledge of the wheel, screw or lever to have possibly created the blocks at Pumapunku 14,000 years ago...
To cut stones with such laser precision...to cut complex contained reliefs perfectly square and perpendicular to the face of the block is IMPOSSIBLE for these people....and then to move those blocks tens of miles and manipulate them defies logic....unless your willing to think outside of the box...
Wake up
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Pumapunku is only explained by two options:
1) The hand of God**
2) Alien Technology**
** (might be one in the same)
There is no way that an illiterate tribe of Indians who had no knowledge of the wheel, screw or lever to have possibly created the blocks at Pumapunku 14,000 years ago...
To cut stones with such laser precision...to cut complex contained reliefs perfectly square and perpendicular to the face of the block is IMPOSSIBLE for these people....and then to move those blocks tens of miles and manipulate them defies logic....unless your willing to think outside of the box...
Wake up
i like where he talks about cuts made in perfectly straight lines and all at the same depth...as if making a jig requires the same level of genius as Einstein.
you can't even begin to know what people knew or didn't know at that time. if they weren't writing in stone or clay, and whatever else they used wasn't preserved then we're clueless. to just say "oh it was aliens" is an insult to our species. to not find evidence of writing after 14,000 years is to be expected. anything light enough to carry might be plundered within a few hundred of those years. diamond tipped tools would be the first to go. anything made of wood would simply rot into soil. assuming they'd write anything on the stones in the first place, if it wasn't chiseled in deep, it would have eroded away by now.
i don't doubt our ability to make anything, even if we've forgotten how to do it, and i don't doubt that if some king decided he something that would last forever, then that thing would be made, whether it was useful or not.
point being, i have far more belief in the ingenuity, determination and egomania of humans than i do in space ships.
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i like where he talks about cuts made in perfectly straight lines and all at the same depth...as if making a jig requires the same level of genius as Einstein.
you can't even begin to know what people knew or didn't know at that time. if they weren't writing in stone or clay, and whatever else they used wasn't preserved then we're clueless. to just say "oh it was aliens" is an insult to our species. to not find evidence of writing after 14,000 years is to be expected. anything light enough to carry might be plundered within a few hundred of those years. diamond tipped tools would be the first to go. anything made of wood would simply rot into soil. assuming they'd write anything on the stones in the first place, if it wasn't chiseled in deep, it would have eroded away by now.
i don't doubt our ability to make anything, even if we've forgotten how to do it, and i don't doubt that if some king decided he something that would last forever, then that thing would be made, whether it was useful or not.
point being, i have far more belief in the ingenuity, determination and egomania of humans than i do in space ships.
A jig?
Your kidding right?
Do you have any experience in working stone, metal or other materials ?
When you come up with the magical 'jig' that can produce the results in the following image using deer antlers and sticks tipped in diamond dust (even if they had that dust)...I will pay off your mortgage
I jig? LOL
:bhead
This co-planar honing and surfacing and kerf was made by Indians on the Bolivian highland plains who could not read or write 14,000 years ago...with stick and bone tools...on granite....and I have bridge to sell ya...
That is a diamond circular saw cut/kerf on a honed Granite block...Pumapunku Bolivia
(By the way...even Einstein couldn't do this with sticks, bone and rock dust)
(http://www.cadframers.com/ah/saw_cut.png)
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A jig?
Your kidding right?
Do you have any experience in working stone, metal or other materials ?
When you come up with the magical 'jig' that can produce the results in the following image using deer antlers and sticks tipped in diamond dust (even if they had that dust)...I will pay off your mortgage
i have experience working with metal, composites, wood and concrete.... i don't know a damned thing about granite, it might not be possible to make a clean cut like that with any kind of hand tool (not even commenting on the straightness or depth of the cut). and i'll freely admit that i'm backing off on that point.
in general, its no mean trick to make a straight line with a cut all at the same depth, using hand tools, if you have the time and desire.
if you can work the material in the first place, you can make a jig for it. for a straight cut at a set depth, all you need is a straight enough peice of material that won't move (either by its own weight, or by fastening it) as a guide, and a way to depth set the cutting tool.
i can't comment on what kind of tools they did or didn't have, but if we assume it was made 14,000 years ago, by humans, then they definitely had better tools than what you think or it wouldn't exist. and i wouldn't expect the evidence of those tools to survive that long, beyond the undeniable proof of the results.
see, i'm also concerned why it'd still be perfect like that after 14,000 years of exposure to the elements. that cut, if it IS impossible to achieve with anything but modern tools then...i'd be more inclined to think someone is running a hoax, before i went spouting off about aliens.
either way, there are perfectly good earthly explanations for it, without having to bring aliens into it.
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There is no earthly explanation to explain that cut in that rock
In fact, we as humans have only been able to achieve that degree of machining precision on hard rock in the last few centuries...
Now take a bite...and postulate how that was accomplished 14,000 years ago (stone age) in the Bolivian Highlands...
It is inexplicable...which in and of itself proves nothing
Hmmmm
Oneway
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look up the Coral Castle in Florida, the worlds only modern Monolithic site :aok the is no way that one small, frail man with tuberculosis did all that by himself....
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look up the Coral Castle in Florida, the worlds only modern Monolithic site :aok the is no way that one small, frail man with tuberculosis did all that by himself....
i really hope we aren't alone...
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The pyramids,crop circles,all the Mexico,South America,etc.I love all of that type of stuff,and my wife likes it as well.That is a miracle in itself! :lolThe fine cutting of blocks by a people that couldn't even write is mind boggling.
I don't claim to be an expert on all of these mysteries,but I think that the Ancient Aliens are for real,and it is my belief that if they came from other planets,they have mastered time travel,as it would be impossible to reach Earth due to the long distances involved.
Most of the UFO,Bigfoot,Bermuda Triangle type things can be attributed to hoaxes,but there are many that can't be explained.My take on the Ancient Aliens,is that they come from another dimension,but that is just my opinion.Nearly every culture,religion,etc,has stories of beings from another place visiting earth.
When Werner Von Braun was asked how the Germans had accomplished all the new weapons,he said"we had help from them!"A UFO crashed in Germany in the late 1930's,and a few aliens survived,helping the Germans with their war effort.The trouble I have with that one is why didn't the Germans win the war if they had all this ...."help"?
I don't have all the answers,but Ancient Aliens is a good program,and I enjoy it a lot.
If you get a chance,watch the Prophets of Doom.It will get your attention,and make you realize that we are very close to the end times.The art work in Georgia says it all in several different languages.We humans have over populated the Earth,and can't feed what we have right now!It will only get worse.Oil,water,food,financial collapse,...it is happening right now!
The Dawg
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The Nazi's were aliens :aok
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i like where he talks about cuts made in perfectly straight lines and all at the same depth...as if making a jig requires the same level of genius as Einstein.
you can't even begin to know what people knew or didn't know at that time. if they weren't writing in stone or clay, and whatever else they used wasn't preserved then we're clueless. to just say "oh it was aliens" is an insult to our species. to not find evidence of writing after 14,000 years is to be expected. anything light enough to carry might be plundered within a few hundred of those years. diamond tipped tools would be the first to go. anything made of wood would simply rot into soil. assuming they'd write anything on the stones in the first place, if it wasn't chiseled in deep, it would have eroded away by now.
i don't doubt our ability to make anything, even if we've forgotten how to do it, and i don't doubt that if some king decided he something that would last forever, then that thing would be made, whether it was useful or not.
point being, i have far more belief in the ingenuity, determination and egomania of humans than i do in space ships.
:aok lol, I don;t think they used diamond tipped tools in Greece but they managed to cut a few square pieces of marble a while back. Now I am wondering when someone will come out and say that they screwed up the dating by a 0 or two :lol
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"OMG how did those ancient stonecutters do such fine work? It MUST be aliens." :lol
Think about it.
They didn't have any distractions.
They worked stone from morning until night.
They had generations to perfect the craft.
They most likely had better tooling than they are given credit for.
Carbon 14 dating will be debunked before this is all over.
My opinion. :salute
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psh
didn't anybody watch the documentary that explains all of this alien stuff?
(http://i.ticketweb.com/i/00/03/85/10/99_Edp.png)
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It was nice of the Aliens to help the primitive homosapians make a nice line in a rock. Gosh they sure are nice. I wish aliens would make nice looking lines in rocks for me.
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That's your job to engineer sir
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Clearly a useful heuristic for explaining the unexplained is that aliens did it. Duh.
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Well, "the gods did it" doesn't satisfy today's audience. We are technologically advanced; obviously no one else in human history ever thought tools would be handy, so it has to be teh alienz.
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Do you seriously think that importing impoverished workers from neighboring countries originated with the US? OF COURSE the 'aliens' did it :lol
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OK... So I'll put my 2 cents in here cause someone's finally talking about something I'm interested in.
1st things 1st, read the Sumerian Creation Tablets... some of it's pretty long, and uses rather colorful metaphors, but it's quite interesting. It's the oldest surviving religion and basically states that we're hybrid slaves of the Gods. Our modern symbol for medicine dates from this time period, the two coiled snakes in a double helix like DNA. Interesting that we only discovered DNA and it's shape and it's important to medicine in this century, however 7000 years ago man was well aware of this knowlege.
The gods come from another planet, Nibiru. Nibiru is said to be on an elyptical orbit taking it roughly 3,500 years to pass by the sun. Sumerian texts state that the planet is a hot thermaly active world, which would make sense due to tidal flex. However to retain heat, they supposedly need gold, thus humans were enslaved in gold mines. Some scholars into the subjects believe this is where we gain our concepts of heaven and hell. Heaven being at the top of the Zigurat (landing site) where tribute was paid to the gods, Hell being the depths of the gold mines where one is not present with the gods.
In interbreeding the the humans, the gods created those that were more god than man. These were our first kings and ancient bloodlines that still interbreed between each other to this day to preserve the sacred blood of the gods, and (it is hoped) to be able to bear viable offspring when the gods return to help perpetuate the bloodlines and the power over man. In modern times, we refer to rich people as "Blue bloods". This also has a historical root in that Royalty are often born looking 'blue' due to low oxygen content in their blood, an inherited iron deficiancy.
In modern times we are quickly approaching the return on Nibiru and the touching down of the Gods. The Third Reich actually contacted these beings and was able to create technology based on their teachings. They were also informed of a group of watchers who had remained behind to observe and direct mankind. These were said to be located in caves under the Nepalese Himilayas and thus started many years of expeditions not looking for the origins of the 'aryan master race', but more exactly the watchers which were known locally, and said to reside below in Shangrila. The 3rd Reich was able to utilize these weapons to create their own bases in South America and Antarctica, and demonstrated their capabilities in the skies over Europe... Foo Fighters.
While German was able to create these weapons, it was not in the interests of the watchers and the royalty to allow germany to win. With that much animosity, they could very well lose their fragile grip on world power. In order to facilitate the return, Germany was subsequently defeated, but not before vast sums of wealth, knowlege, and man power were funelled into western business. After the war, the Catholic Church, SS, OSS, and what would become the CIA used their resources to smuggle out wanted men, give them new identities, and ultimately place them back in positions of control within US business and Intellegence communities.
Since that time, we have seen the Nazification of the world under the guise of Green Doctrines, Police Actions, Humanitarian Missions, and the use of terrorist cells across the world to sew the need for ever greater security. We are once again in a position to be reenslaved and given back as sacrafice unto the gods.
HAIL MARDUK!!!
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OK... So I'll put my 2 cents in here cause someone's finally talking about something I'm interested in.
1st things 1st, read the Sumerian Creation Tablets... some of it's pretty long, and uses rather colorful metaphors, but it's quite interesting. It's the oldest surviving religion and basically states that we're hybrid slaves of the Gods. Our modern symbol for medicine dates from this time period, the two coiled snakes in a double helix like DNA. Interesting that we only discovered DNA and it's shape and it's important to medicine in this century, however 7000 years ago man was well aware of this knowlege.
The gods come from another planet, Nibiru. Nibiru is said to be on an elyptical orbit taking it roughly 3,500 years to pass by the sun. Sumerian texts state that the planet is a hot thermaly active world, which would make sense due to tidal flex. However to retain heat, they supposedly need gold, thus humans were enslaved in gold mines. Some scholars into the subjects believe this is where we gain our concepts of heaven and hell. Heaven being at the top of the Zigurat (landing site) where tribute was paid to the gods, Hell being the depths of the gold mines where one is not present with the gods.
In interbreeding the the humans, the gods created those that were more god than man. These were our first kings and ancient bloodlines that still interbreed between each other to this day to preserve the sacred blood of the gods, and (it is hoped) to be able to bear viable offspring when the gods return to help perpetuate the bloodlines and the power over man. In modern times, we refer to rich people as "Blue bloods". This also has a historical root in that Royalty are often born looking 'blue' due to low oxygen content in their blood, an inherited iron deficiancy.
In modern times we are quickly approaching the return on Nibiru and the touching down of the Gods. The Third Reich actually contacted these beings and was able to create technology based on their teachings. They were also informed of a group of watchers who had remained behind to observe and direct mankind. These were said to be located in caves under the Nepalese Himilayas and thus started many years of expeditions not looking for the origins of the 'aryan master race', but more exactly the watchers which were known locally, and said to reside below in Shangrila. The 3rd Reich was able to utilize these weapons to create their own bases in South America and Antarctica, and demonstrated their capabilities in the skies over Europe... Foo Fighters.
While German was able to create these weapons, it was not in the interests of the watchers and the royalty to allow germany to win. With that much animosity, they could very well lose their fragile grip on world power. In order to facilitate the return, Germany was subsequently defeated, but not before vast sums of wealth, knowlege, and man power were funelled into western business. After the war, the Catholic Church, SS, OSS, and what would become the CIA used their resources to smuggle out wanted men, give them new identities, and ultimately place them back in positions of control within US business and Intellegence communities.
Since that time, we have seen the Nazification of the world under the guise of Green Doctrines, Police Actions, Humanitarian Missions, and the use of terrorist cells across the world to sew the need for ever greater security. We are once again in a position to be reenslaved and given back as sacrafice unto the gods.
HAIL MARDUK!!!
:salute sounds to much like stargate :bolt:
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http://www.eutimes.net/2011/03/russian-warning-issued-over-controlled-comet-headed-towards-earth/
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:salute sounds to much like stargate :bolt:
Because Stargate and shows like it are a tool used to desensitize us to what is to come.
...and <S> Ghi, though I thought NASA has completely disavowed that Elenin exists, and Tyche can only be proved by a phantom gravitational disturbance, and hasn't been visually confirmed. I do fear that we here in the US may be facing a mine shaft shortage though...
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This thread is officially making the hair on my neck stand up
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:noid
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Weak minded people
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Weak minded people
You know, there's written records going back thousands of years that detail these things. Our modern interpretation of history goes back a couple hundred if that, and is based on conjecture, hearsay, and misconceptions and racist ideologies towards native cultures and practices.
Furthermore, there has been many well documented times throughout history where knowledge was purposely destroyed... in recent times we've got Nazi Book Burnings, we have the Inquisition in Europe, and the subsequent burning of temples and books by the Spaniards upon arriving in the Americas.
To simply state that someone is 'weak minded' because they're open to the possibility that there may be more to the story we've been told without even attempting to refute a single point or observation proves your mental faculties more than others.
:aok
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How do you know I speak of you?
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we have the Inquisition in Europe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oppHeMlaLVM
Mel Brooks has ruined me.
Anyway, I love Ancient Aliens. Very enetrtaining.
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I just began watching it on Netflix, i got passed the first episode, on the second, some things seem off about the show.
Biggest thing i can think of is that second supposed "flying aircraft" they had shown (not the egypt one, the other one) They all said it looked like an aircraft.when I saw it, the first thing that poped up in my mind was "Hey, that looks like a chinese flying fish".
Could it be possible that the culture also believe in flying fish? and were simply sculpting them?
Also, they never show any of the disagree-er's on the show, only the people who support the idea of outer-world visitation. i'd like to hear their side of the story as well.
Thats just what ive seen so far, other than that im liking it tho. :aok
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Because Stargate and shows like it are a tool used to desensitize us to what is to come.
...and <S> Ghi, though I thought NASA has completely disavowed that Elenin exists, and Tyche can only be proved by a phantom gravitational disturbance, and hasn't been visually confirmed. I do fear that we here in the US may be facing a mine shaft shortage though...
I don't believe Elenin is a space ship, but who knows, we are very small ants in an infinite Universe, sure not alone ;.. a dwarf star with huge mass?! :headscratch: I read about this observation; the last 3 alignments with Sun and Earth coincide with earthquakes, in few weeks is getting closer and we have another alignment with Sun and Elenin at less than 1 AU; we will see if this only conspiracy.
Date Location Alignment Distance Magnitude
February 27, 2010 Pelluhue, Chile Elenin-Earth-Sun 6.04 AU 8.8
September 4, 2010 Christchurch, NZ Elenin-Sun-Earth 6.26 AU 7.2
March 11, 2011 Tohoku, Japan Elenin-Earth-Sun 2.16 AU 9.0
Here is an interesting documentary, maybe the gravitation is not the only force governing the Universe ; http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=4773590301316220374#
This http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13715764 was in news few weeks ago, the Earth is moving elliptical only around the Sun, but in 3D is actually a spiral voyage through space and looks like we are entering in construction zone and bumpy roads, adjust your seat belt :lol
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Because Stargate and shows like it are a tool used to desensitize us to what is to come.
So the producers of Stargate are in on the greatest conspiracy of all time? Damn, this is riveting stuff. Please tell me more. :aok
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So the producers of Stargate are in on the greatest conspiracy of all time? Damn, this is riveting stuff. Please tell me more. :aok
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/387adae53eb027b37d47d5b4191d3daf.jpg)
:noid :bolt:
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To simply state that someone is 'weak minded' because they're open to the possibility that there may be more to the story we've been told without even attempting to refute a single point or observation proves your mental faculties more than others.
Clearly a useful heuristic for explaining the unexplained is that aliens did it. Duh.
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Our modern interpretation of history goes back a couple hundred if that, and is based on conjecture, hearsay, and misconceptions and racist ideologies towards native cultures and practices.
Couple of hundred? :O :headscratch: