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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: JOACH1M on July 26, 2011, 09:59:28 PM
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The next plane or tank to be re-modeled or implemented?
I think it will be another tank only because it seems like HTC is competing with WOT to get some more tankers.
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Beaufighter
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ME410!
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Probably something to counter the KT at a lower perk price
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Probably something to counter the KT at a lower perk price
That would be the Firefly. ;) Or, four T34/76 charging the flanks and getting a close shot with a few HVAP rounds. :D
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Probably something to counter the KT at a lower perk price
Panther :aok
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No more tanks please. More A/C :aok
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No more tanks please. More A/C :aok
+1 :aok
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A-20 remodel with 4 X 20mm gun package option :D
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Ki-43
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probably a remodel of somthing that isnt flown much.probably 1 of the p39 models
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P-38H!
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P-38H!
:noid you skinners have to know... So you can make skins for them when they get put on hoepage :noid :bolt:
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Probably something to counter the KT at a lower perk price
Well considering nothing we have in the game right now stands any reasonable chance of killing the KingTiger from the front (theoreticly), I'd bet on the Nashorn.
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P40B!
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LANCASTER III!!!!!
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P40B!
its already out that they are redoing that
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probably a remodel of somthing that isnt flown much.probably 1 of the p39 models
P-39 is an ah2 model.
My (biased) guess, F4F-4 :D
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I really want to see yaks and c2's redone, and with each if those a new model like yak3 or g.55
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I demand zee Nashorn (http://jonathanrick.com/wp-content/uploads/2004/05/adolf-hitler.jpg)!!!
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P-39 is an ah2 model.
My (biased) guess, F4F-4 :D
you get my point
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B26B
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B26B
+1
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Hopefully a remodel of a commonly used unit, Panzer IV H, Lancaster III, Hurricanes, B-26 or Bf110s or a completely new fighter such as a Beaufighter, J2M, Ki-43, Ki-44, Me410 or Yak-3.
I will go with remodel of the Hurricanes.
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A bi-plane. Early war French or Polish.
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Next update.. INK to the skinner team :p
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOO good one :P
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An M18 Hellcat
Or something from SteamPunk :huh
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Stupid...what was that about, anyways?
I'd like the Claw before it... I NEVER FLEW IT!!! :furious:
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Stupid...what was that about, anyways?
I'd like the Claw before it... I NEVER FLEW IT!!! :furious:
Not sure if you're rambling about SteamPunk or what, but the M18 was a tank destroyer.
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probably a remodel of somthing that isnt flown much.probably 1 of the p39 models
:headscratch:
I still consider the P-39 to be one of the newer planes...
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:headscratch:
I still consider the P-39 to be one of the newer planes...
Not sure if you're rambling about SteamPunk or what, but the M18 was a tank destroyer.
It's got the stick and the rudder pedals. It'll be fine. :P
Steampunk. :mad:
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Dive bombers, Stuka, SBD, TBM, Lancstuka, and the Val.
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Ju88 and A20 need to be a little more real. I think :rolleyes:
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I agree with the Ju-88.
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I would love to see the ME-323 Giant - Make it a perked troop carrier that actually flew in formations... It had 6 20mm's cannons, would be great for troops especially since it can actually defend itself..
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Or we could put the BB gun on the C-47, slap a Rising Sun on the side and wings, and call it the L2D
So much less time=Problem solved!
:D
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Or we could put the BB gun on the C-47, slap a Rising Sun on the side and wings, and call it the L2D
So much less time=Problem solved!
:D
we have the skin for it
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:rofl Never seen it
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I would love to see the ME-323 Giant - Make it a perked troop carrier that actually flew in formations... It had 6 20mm's cannons, would be great for troops especially since it can actually defend itself..
You might want to read up on how the 323 fared in the MTO,seems they were pulled from service or what was left of them.
:salute
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Yeah, but I would just like to see a new troop carrier - at least ~something~ that can defend itself other than ramming "although ramming is fun"
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I would love to see the ME-323 Giant - Make it a perked troop carrier that actually flew in formations... It had 6 20mm's cannons, would be great for troops especially since it can actually defend itself..
Well, if somebody really needs to throw perk points away....
Me323s were slaughtered, literally, by Allied fighters when they were fortunate enough to find them. Shot completely out of existence.
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HE162 or P-80 I dislike jets but these complete the saga
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A 26
:cheers: Oz
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i say a 110 gun upgrade...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gi6UOoKItY&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gi6UOoKItY&feature=related) watch from 4 mins onwards for those who can't be bothered to watch the whole clip
a beaufighter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsUdbzQCm_Y&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsUdbzQCm_Y&feature=youtu.be)
and me111( for those who still dunno abt this A/C)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIFRSYKUVYg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIFRSYKUVYg)
Ju87 ( gun upgrade)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLPchQ2AbUo&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLPchQ2AbUo&feature=related)
and for those ONLY GV guys... i only got 1 thing to say
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VQ_3sBZEm0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VQ_3sBZEm0)
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I153.......with all the historical loadout options.
(http://www.nzfpm.co.nz/img/imgLarge/poli4.jpg)
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(http://www.daveswarbirds.com/usplanes/photos/sba.jpg)
Aerodynamic, looks like a better diver than a P-47. Anybody have information if this was an active model or prototype?
Edit:Brewster SBA
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i say a 110 gun upgrade...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gi6UOoKItY&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gi6UOoKItY&feature=related) watch from 4 mins onwards for those who can't be bothered to watch the whole clip
a beaufighter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsUdbzQCm_Y&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsUdbzQCm_Y&feature=youtu.be)
and HE-111( for those who still dunno abt this A/C)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIFRSYKUVYg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIFRSYKUVYg)
Ju87 ( gun upgrade)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLPchQ2AbUo&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLPchQ2AbUo&feature=related)
and for those ONLY GV guys... i only got 1 thing to say
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VQ_3sBZEm0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VQ_3sBZEm0)
Fixed
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He-111
And the B-26 needs some serious TLC
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ME410!
+1 :aok
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I really want to see yaks and c2's redone, and with each if those a new model like yak3 or g.55
This is my hope. Oh and the DUKW!!!!
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A-20 remodel with 4 X 20mm gun package option :D
While we are wishing for stuff, I would just wish for 1simple addition for the m4 series of tanks... a simple 5" unlimited movement flak gun instead of a limited movement pintle gun.
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A 26
:cheers: Oz
A B-26? Or A-26?
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D.520
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Well actually, I really would like to see the ME410,HE219 and the HE129 to pretty much round out the LW plane set. The HE111 would also be a welcomed addition. If there is an update in store for the JU87, then I would like to see the G2 version, the "Kannon Vogel" >sp<.
Just my .02.
Nutz
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update - Ju87 with 37mm gun option
new addition - me410, the kubelwagon, yak3, or add in the tanker ship convoys from FSO to the MAs
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update - Ju87 with 37mm gun option
new addition - me410, the kubelwagon, yak3, or add in the tanker ship convoys from FSO to the MAs
JU87 +1 it's classy
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JU87 +1 it's classy
couldn't agree more. and once her shape is updated, we should get more than 3 skins available for her.
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couldn't agree more. and once her shape is updated, we should get more than 3 skins available for her.
I like the responses I get from gvs. One guy told me to "F* off and eat a fat d*".
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D.520
I second this wish.
It would be pretty cool to see it on both sides in Axis VS Allies.
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Well actually, I really would like to see the ME410,HE219 and the HE129 to pretty much round out the LW plane set. The HE111 would also be a welcomed addition. If there is an update in store for the JU87, then I would like to see the G2 version, the "Kannon Vogel" >sp<.
Just my .02.
Nutz
Mistakenly referred to the 129 as HE129 when it should have been the HS129, manufactured by Henschel Flugzeugwerke AG.
Nutz
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Meh.. the Hs129 was a 1940 design that, through a quirk in the system surrounding it and the needs of the time, was kept into production almost unchanged until 1944. A very small number were made, even with such a long production run. Most had French-built engines, so the production was no strain on the limited engine production the Germans had.
Further, it was too severely underpowered, even without the one load that would be useful in AH. The big tank busting gun. WITH that gun it could barely fly a few thousand feet off the ground.
The first model carried 2x 20mm, 2x 7mm, and a whopping load of 4x50kg under the center.
A Bf109E-4 could boast the same.
The later models weren't much better. Minor changes with fuel systems, radio masts, etc.
The only real differences were the giant guns strapped under the middle. They started with the Mk101 30mm. This was eventually replaced with the Mk103. The ammo was the same but it fired faster. Then because in 1942 these weren't as effective against Soviet tanks, they started trying larger guns. They tried the big Bk3.7, same as on the Ju-87. It carried more ammo but very few ever received this. Instead they then tried the PAK 40, a 7.5cm gun in a gigantic pod. It was almost suicidal to try flying the aircraft, let alone attacking anything with that weight onboard. However only about 25 were built before production was finally shut down. How many ever saw combat is debatable.
In short, it was a flop of a ride. Even in 1940. The design remained almost unchanged until 1944, with no performance gains. The 30mm guns wouldn't do much damage to half the tanks in AH currently, and the bigger guns almost never saw combat/production so they wouldn't be valid in AH.
No need, no use, no benefit. Why add a Hs129?
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No more tanks please. More A/C
+1
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The B26 or Lanc are my geuss for the next updated.
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Yeah I think your right Krusty. I should have checked the performance stats a little closer. I thought maybe it would have compared favorably with the IL2, (maybe does, maybe not) and would have given us another ground attack/close air support option. Oh well, I'll still wish for the HE219 and the ME410.
Nutz
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Yeah I think your right Krusty.
2012 is coming fast :uhoh :bolt:
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C130 :noid
I seen it >.>;
:bolt:
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Oh well, I'll still wish for the HE219 and the ME410.
Might want to check on the He219 a bit too.... :devil
But I'm all for the Me410!
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Might want to check on the He219 a bit too.... :devil
But I'm all for the Me410!
Why? The 219 would be a whoot!
Nutz
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The 219 was woefully underpowered. The hype persists to this day, but in combat configuration it was slow. Very slow. No better than other planes it was supposed to replace (which were already obsolete). Some claimed in combat it was barely able to do 350mph max. It never reached the 400+ claimed.
Plus it's a dedicated night fighter in a game dedicated to the art of fair weather daytime fighting, so it doesn't really fit.
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I can only hope not guess. And I hope its the TU-2, or the Beau, or the A-26, or the Yak-3, or the FireFly.
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The 219 was woefully underpowered. The hype persists to this day, but in combat configuration it was slow. Very slow. No better than other planes it was supposed to replace (which were already obsolete). Some claimed in combat it was barely able to do 350mph max. It never reached the 400+ claimed.
Plus it's a dedicated night fighter in a game dedicated to the art of fair weather daytime fighting, so it doesn't really fit.
You sure your talking about the HE219?? Maybe you better recheck your sources. My stats on it says the A-7 has a max speed of 416mph. Engines were the 1,900hp Daimler-Benz DB 603G inverted v12.
IDK, but I wouldn't call this "woefully underpowered".
Nutz
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It never made that. Again the hype. Even pilots interviewed at the time noted it never reached anywhere near that speed. Part of the controversy.
I've read the discussions a number of places and seen many resources listed to back this up but it's been a while and I don't remember them all. This is just from google right now
From:
http://www.pilotfriend.com/photo_albums/timeline/ww2/Heinkel%20He%20219%20Uhu.htm
"According to Gebhard Aders (author of Geschichte der deutschen Nachtjägd), the He 219 "never achieved the values given in its manual. With almost full tanks and full armament, the He 219 could not get above 26,247 ft (8000 m). With Lichtenstein and flame dampers, the maximum speed fell to about 311 mph (500 km/h) at this height." "
and:
[Edit: Performance for the A-7] "Performance: (DB 603E engine) Maximum speed 286 mph (460 km/h) at sea level, 363 mph (585 km/h) at 19,685 ft (6000 m); service ceiling 32,150 ft (9800 m); initial climb rate 1,804 ft (550 m) per minute."
You can see that while it's not without merit (it packed a big punch, it was a night fighter with working radar), it was by no means what the urban legend would portray it to be. It's in the same camp as those claiming the Horton bomber would have won the war for Germany -- all hype and the real world performance not living up to it.
EDIT: The production for the 219 started early, but didn't really pick up and pump out numbers until late 1944. At that time it was slower than 1943-era twins already being phased out.
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/scores/genchart.php?p1=57&p2=63&pw=2>ype=0)
These are both faster than it.
EDIT2: These are closer to the night fighter mossies hunting down and killing the 219s in 1944:
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/scores/genchart.php?p1=110&p2=63&pw=2>ype=0)
It never really could compete, being slower than the 110G you see on that chart.
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http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/he219.html
Nutz
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P-63C Kingcobra :)
Oh, oh sorry - thread was what do I think will be done next, not what I want to be done next. My bad. :o
A-26/Me-410/Beaufighter/M-18
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A-20 remodel with 4 X 20mm gun package option :D
Winning. +1 :aok
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probably the F-16
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I'm not a big bomber kind of guy but how do you not have the HE-111? You almost have to include it in the plane set imho.
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I'm not a big bomber kind of guy but how do you not have the HE-111? You almost have to include it in the plane set imho.
Same can be said for the Beaufighter, Ki-43, Wellington and Pe-2.
I am sure they will be added eventually.
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I think it will be another tank only because it seems like HTC is competing with WOT to get some more tankers.
HTC better start with the "pouring" tanks out if they want to compete, WOT has about 50+ more tanks than AH does and is about 10 times more fun than in AH. Should I also include that it's almost impossible to camp in WOT? I should know since I play World of Tanks everyday.............
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HTC better start with the "pouring" tanks out if they want to compete, WOT has about 50+ more tanks than AH does and is about 10 times more fun than in AH. Should I also include that it's almost impossible to camp in WOT? I should know since I play World of Tanks everyday.............
Is WoT a sim (armor, armor penetration, angles and such) or a fantasy MMO/arcade shooter (hit points and such)?
This is an honest question.
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Is WoT a sim (armor, armor penetration, angles and such) or a fantasy MMO/arcade shooter (hit points and such)?
This is an honest question.
Well actually.......Armor, Armor penetration and angles all play a pretty big role.
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Is WoT a sim (armor, armor penetration, angles and such) or a fantasy MMO/arcade shooter (hit points and such)?
This is an honest question.
Both, which makes it perfect.
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http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/he219.html
Nutz
Krusty is correct, to the best of my knowledge, about the He219. Eric Brown, one of the cited sources on the page you linked, said that it was underpowered. So far as I have been able to tell, the 416mph was a Heinkel claim, not something the RLM or Luftwaffe ever got out of it. Perhaps unarmed, unarmored and without radar it could have done something like that.
It is a shame too as it is a very neat looking aircraft. Almost insectoid with the radar on it.
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Both, which makes it perfect.
How can it be both? If it uses realistic armor pen and such, there can't be hit points, if it uses hit points and armor pen, well, that is much more arcade than sim.
"You skillfully snuck into range, got lucky and your HVAP round penetrated my Tiger II, but it only did 8 damage so my Tiger II still has 72 hit points left to slug it out with your T-34/85!" seems like it would be massively stacked against smaller tanks.
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Remodel of the Yaks or Ki's
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Is WoT a sim (armor, armor penetration, angles and such) or a fantasy MMO/arcade shooter (hit points and such)?
This is an honest question.
It's more of a sim, both WOT and AH take skill, but you have to know what your doing or you will die pretty fast. Mostly the rushers on the maps are the first to die quickly, the rest take a while to fight each other. In WOT you have to hit your rounds in the right place, it's not shoot and kill in 1 shot (depending on what kind of tank you have and what gun is on it).
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How can it be both? If it uses realistic armor pen and such, there can't be hit points, if it uses hit points and armor pen, well, that is much more arcade than sim.
The only difference is Ah doesn't give you a health bar for total tank armor points, everything else in WoT is there. Just as it is in Aceshigh code wise.
The arcade aspect is still there, just like it is in aces high. You can get gun knocked out, engine, tracks,turret..even the crew them self's in WoT. In WoT your tank can be repaired, tho with time. In aces high some poor fool has to drop a box off,and its insta fixed.
So, its the same.
The game play is different as WoT is set up in rounds, and not all out "spawn here "get camped and die instantly",drive x minutes/hours to x place,and camp till you get killed or limp back home banged up" like aces high.
And the engine is due for a major update that will allow much more realistic tank performance. Can we say 45km/h off a high high cliff!? "Weeeee............crash" :rock
"Edit" And its free.
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WoT is bad for AH. Players left and HTC now focuses on tanks instead of airplanes. :bhead
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The only difference is Ah doesn't give you a health bar for total tank armor points, everything else in WoT is there. Just as it is in Aceshigh code wise.
I am pretty sure this is false. I don't think AH has "hit points" for armor. You either penetrate it or you don't. No gradual reduction in it, nothing in AH for a "health bar" to represent on tanks. Well, I guess the treads might have "hit points".
Airplanes are a different story as, so far as I know, the components of the aircraft do have "hit points".
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WoT is just eye candy. The fast paced arcade action and the numerous fantasy Frankenstein tank versions scream Xbawx .
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The only difference is in Ah your tank doesn't take damage, but the guy who hit you with 2,000 .30's still get's the kill "wee?" everything in aces high hits hard, or bounces off. But each part of the tank still has "hit points" all video games have hit points, its the only way the code can work. Now penetration % and angle of attack .ect.
Anyhow, WoT will never be like the gv game in aces high,and vice versa. Same thing* just different engines and worlds apart all together.
Oh...loons right tho, that's one of the things i hate the most about WoT, 3/4th's of its tanks never exsisted, or were only made on paper/prototype. Still fun to vroom vromm boom boom things tho.
:Edit: oh,and in WoT you don't have someone bombing you 24/7..you have...... arty :D"
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The only difference is in Ah your tank doesn't take damage, but the guy who hit you with 2,000 .30's still get's the kill "wee?" everything in aces high hits hard, or bounces off. But each part of the tank still has "hit points" all video games have hit points, its the only way the code can work. Now penetration % and angle of attack .ect.
This is a bunch of rubbish. If you don't know what you are talking about, just don't talk.
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I would love to see the HI-111 and Do-217
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The SE5a for the WWI Arena
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(http://www.airmuseumsuk.org/airshow/2004/Shut040801/800/images/035%20RAF%20SE5A.jpg)
:salute
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The SE5a for the WWI Arena
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(http://www.airmuseumsuk.org/airshow/2004/Shut040801/800/images/035%20RAF%20SE5A.jpg)
:salute
I dunno... I think we mighthave a slim chance of seeing all of WWI reworked... like, I'm talking aobut 1-5% here. Adding strategic elements, bombers, SE5, Spad, another couple of German planes... we'll see.
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P-61B
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Guys...It's obvious...The shuttle "Atlantis" -_-
:bolt:
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Not sure if you're rambleing about SteamPunk or what, but the M18 was a tank destroyer.
I suggested the M-18 a couple of years back....
Of course....suggested the B-29 back then too...LOL
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I downloaded WoT and it never worked... :cry
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Beaufighter/M18 :aok
Its hint time HiTech...
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(http://www.military-aircraft.org.uk/ww2-fighter-planes/blackburn-roc.jpg)
Blackburn Roc, haha!
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The next plane or tank to be re-modeled or implemented?
I think it will be another tank only because it seems like HTC is competing with WOT to get some more tankers.
The next change will be tour commitment to a single chess piece!
NO new planes till you we all commit to a side
JUGgler
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While we're knockin stuff about..how about amphibians/seaplanes?
Yes, I've read prior posts re: can't be done. But my money's on Hitech making it happen...and I send that single -malt ambrosia where?