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Title: Schwerer Gustav
Post by: B-17 on July 27, 2011, 09:35:27 PM
Ok. I don't know if everybody knows what they are, even though they should...

They were big railway guns built by Germany during WWII. Like, massive.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/DoraVSScarab.svg)

Can anyone tell me anything as to how they performed in real life, and would they ever be of any use to AH?

Title: Re: Schwerer Gustav
Post by: AWwrgwy on July 27, 2011, 09:38:39 PM


Can anyone tell me anything as to how they performed in real life, and would they ever be of any use to AH?



Is your google broken?


wrongway
Title: Re: Schwerer Gustav
Post by: JOACH1M on July 27, 2011, 09:45:18 PM
Were these mounted on the side of mountains? Or was that another giant German gun I'm thinking of....
Title: Re: Schwerer Gustav
Post by: Tyrannis on July 27, 2011, 09:47:09 PM
Ok. I don't know if everybody knows what they are, even though they should...

They were big railway guns built by Germany during WWII. Like, massive.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/DoraVSScarab.svg)

Can anyone tell me anything as to how they performed in real life, and would they ever be of any use to AH?


:rofl! Imagine the perk cost for one of those....
Title: Re: Schwerer Gustav
Post by: Seanaldinho on July 28, 2011, 02:16:10 PM
Were these mounted on the side of mountains? Or was that another giant German gun I'm thinking of....

I believe your thinking of the V3
Title: Re: Schwerer Gustav
Post by: B-17 on July 28, 2011, 08:55:15 PM
:rofl! Imagine the perk cost for one of those....

800 perkies... gone in two shots.
Title: Re: Schwerer Gustav
Post by: VonMessa on July 28, 2011, 10:27:42 PM
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Schwerer+Gustav (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Schwerer+Gustav)
Title: Re: Schwerer Gustav
Post by: B-17 on July 29, 2011, 12:58:06 AM
Ok...so I was told to consult the Almighty Google...great. I know it was an 800 caliber gun, took forever to reload, and both (Dora and Gustav) were destroyed. Tyrannis is the only one who read both questions, it would seem :P

How do you think it would fare in AH?
Title: Re: Schwerer Gustav
Post by: Butcher on July 29, 2011, 09:00:17 AM
Ok...so I was told to consult the Almighty Google...great. I know it was an 800 caliber gun, took forever to reload, and both (Dora and Gustav) were destroyed. Tyrannis is the only one who read both questions, it would seem :P

How do you think it would fare in AH?

Honestly it wouldn't be in Aces high at all. Here's a little info on the Dora Gun - it took over 2500 men to help build the Embankment and lay the tracks for the gun, along with over 250 to set up the Gun for firing, also supporting this massive waste of resources was 2 flak batteries for air defense.

Also this massive gun really only fired a handful of times each time, problem with aces high although we have the shore batteries with a Line of sight and they fire directly at the target, where this railroad gun fired indirect - I would assume it would be aimed like an 8 inch gun without any line of sight, you click on the map and fire away and wait however long for a reload.

Its a wonder weapon like the Nukes or V-2 - neither will see Aces High, but nevertheless really cool to research.
Title: Re: Schwerer Gustav
Post by: Phoenix 7 on July 30, 2011, 02:27:37 AM
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Schwerer+Gustav (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Schwerer+Gustav)


 :rofl Although, yes very cool I dont see this being added to Aces High any time soon.
Title: Re: Schwerer Gustav
Post by: clerick on July 30, 2011, 02:58:33 AM
I think that we'd see the German Rat tank before this....   :bolt:
Title: Re: Schwerer Gustav
Post by: B-17 on July 30, 2011, 04:49:38 PM
The what??
Title: Re: Schwerer Gustav
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 30, 2011, 05:16:49 PM
The what??

(http://www.unmuseum.org/rat_desert.jpg)


ack-ack
Title: Re: Schwerer Gustav
Post by: Karnak on July 30, 2011, 05:28:15 PM
(http://www.unmuseum.org/rat_desert.jpg)


ack-ack
Every time I read about that thing, or even the Maus, all I can think of is "bomb magnet".
Title: Re: Schwerer Gustav
Post by: Seanaldinho on July 30, 2011, 06:51:03 PM
(http://www.unmuseum.org/rat_desert.jpg)


ack-ack

Bet you have a hell of a time trying to parrallel park that...
Title: Re: Schwerer Gustav
Post by: Scotty55OEFVet on July 30, 2011, 08:37:08 PM
Anzio Annie was I think a 580mm Railgun that the Germans used against the Allied Beachhead at Anzio. It may have even been a 280mm gun but look up Anzio Annie and itll show ya. I copied this from a page that had a model of the gun and all I can find on Wiki is Krupp K5 which just talks about the guns built...

"Anzio Annie" was the name of the German railroad gun that was used against the American troops during the amphibious landings at Anzio, Italy during World War II.   The huge 28cm gun fired 550 lb. shells up to 60 kilometers, and our troops never did destroy, or in any way cripple Annie.   The German artillerymen put Anzio Annie out of commission.   Today, it can be seen at the Aberdeen Proving Grounds Museum, Aberdeen MD.
Title: Re: Schwerer Gustav
Post by: B-17 on July 30, 2011, 09:01:07 PM
Aberdeen as in Scotland?
Title: Re: Schwerer Gustav
Post by: Scotty55OEFVet on July 30, 2011, 10:29:40 PM
MD=Maryland lol...US.
Title: Re: Schwerer Gustav
Post by: MiloMorai on July 31, 2011, 11:55:30 AM
http://cgi.ebay.ca/Squadron-Signal-Books-K5-E-Railgun-Detail-Action-/250864456057?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a68afd179

http://aa-ok.com/german-railroad-guns-in-action-squadron-signal-publications-by-joachim-engelmann-49p.html

http://www.amazon.com/German-Railroad-Guns-Action-Armor/dp/0897470486

Title: Re: Schwerer Gustav
Post by: MiloMorai on July 31, 2011, 12:18:32 PM
Some videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5TrWUfMQNw&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5TrWUfMQNw&NR=1)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxykqgRodTc&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxykqgRodTc&feature=related)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf2_eX6q7pg&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf2_eX6q7pg&feature=related)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyFKbLGGCVY&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyFKbLGGCVY&feature=related)

WW1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LLXiUBDxOE&feature=relmfu


Title: Re: Schwerer Gustav
Post by: AWwrgwy on July 31, 2011, 01:04:02 PM
Aberdeen as in Scotland?

Paris (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris,_Texas) is in Texas.
London (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London,_Texas) is in Texas.
Moscow (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow,_Texas) is in Texas.



wrongway
Title: Re: Schwerer Gustav
Post by: Rino on July 31, 2011, 04:26:52 PM
Bet you have a hell of a time trying to parrallel park that...

      Just park it where ever you stop...who's going to argue with it?  :D
Title: Re: Schwerer Gustav
Post by: MiloMorai on July 31, 2011, 07:19:50 PM
Paris is in Ontario.
London is in Ontario.
Moscow is in Ontario.

wrongway

fixed :devil
Title: Re: Schwerer Gustav
Post by: B-17 on July 31, 2011, 10:08:23 PM
There's a Moscow in Ontario??
Title: Re: Schwerer Gustav
Post by: Scherf on July 31, 2011, 10:17:33 PM
In Soviet Russia, place names *you*.
Title: Re: Schwerer Gustav
Post by: Tank-Ace on August 01, 2011, 03:35:29 AM
      Just park it where ever you stop...who's going to argue with it?  :D

The more important question is if anyone argues with it, what can they DO about it?

Short of the Grand Slam, a MOAB, or nuclear weapons, theres not a whole lot they can do about it.
Title: Re: Schwerer Gustav
Post by: MiloMorai on August 01, 2011, 10:19:27 AM
There's a Moscow in Ontario??

# Pop. 65. In Lennox and Addington Cs. on C. Rd. 6, 27 km. NW of Kingston.
# The place was settled in 1824 by Jacob and Elijah Huffman and frrst known as Huffman Settlement. In 1854 the name was changed to Springfield, but there was postal confusion with similarly-named places.
# The same year the name was changed to Moscow to commemorate Napoleon's retreat from the Russian city in 1812.
Title: Re: Schwerer Gustav
Post by: B-17 on August 01, 2011, 10:23:33 AM
# Pop. 65. In Lennox and Addington Cs. on C. Rd. 6, 27 km. NW of Kingston.
# The place was settled in 1824 by Jacob and Elijah Huffman and frrst known as Huffman Settlement. In 1854 the name was changed to Springfield, but there was postal confusion with similarly-named places.
# The same year the name was changed to Moscow to commemorate Napoleon's retreat from the Russian city in 1812.

Thanks!

The more important question is if anyone argues with it, what can they DO about it?

Short of the Grand Slam, a MOAB, or nuclear weapons, theres not a whole lot they can do about it.

A couple of 500 lb-ers could probably give it a bit of a punch :aok
Title: Re: Schwerer Gustav
Post by: Tank-Ace on August 01, 2011, 01:45:58 PM
oh sure, if they were direct hits, then yeah.  500lbs of HE is enough to destroy just about anything short of reinforced concrete. But a near miss is just going to dent it at most. Even the KingTiger is a biotch to kill with a 500lber.
Title: Re: Schwerer Gustav
Post by: jay on August 03, 2011, 12:03:07 AM
Gustav

it took 200hundred men 2weeks to set it up to fire ONCE

and an ENTIRE FLAK BATTALION to defend it
Title: Re: Schwerer Gustav
Post by: Raptor05121 on August 09, 2011, 01:47:44 AM
add it. two per country. it moves like a CV- only higher ups can move it and it spawns from HQ. it has ack like a Cv. would be awesome, no?
Title: Re: Schwerer Gustav
Post by: B-17 on August 09, 2011, 01:50:37 AM
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Nice, positive thinking. +1 :D