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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: GFShill on July 30, 2011, 11:49:13 PM
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Strange but true tales of WW2 (according to my in-game experience with Aces High):
1) Torpedo 8 didn't turn the tide of battle at Midway. It was a formation of 3 B-24s at 15k that sunk the cruiser and the carrier. In one pass. Without escorts. Who knew?
2) The most effective bomber we had in WW2 was the P-47. Who knew?
3) Medium bombers served absolutely no useful purpose on Europe's D-Day, nor in any campaign in the Pacific. Who knew?
4) PT boats exploded in a single strafing run. Who knew?
5) We didn't need squadrons of P-38s to win the war in the Pacific. Five good Lightning dive bombers could stop an entire Japanese fleet. Who knew?
6) Spitfire pilots blacked out all the time in tight turns, but Mustang pilots didn't. Who knew?
7) Patton's greatest tank philosophy was to just sit behind a hill and wait for an enemy tank to appear. Who knew?
8) Only two kinds of guns were installed as anti-aircraft defenses at air fields, and neither one of them were machine guns, nor did they use proximity fuses. Who knew?
9) Prop wash didn't exist. Who knew?
10) LVTs were made of paper. That's why they were so easy to shoot up and sink. Who knew?
Stay tuned for more mysteries discovered, and myths debunked!
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I'll add one to my post count....... Thank you.
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Also, did you know that Lancaster pilots routinely used their planes as dive bombers? Who knew?
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Just simply get a new bowl out of the cabinet since someone pissed in yo cherios!
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:lol. This is really funny to me.
Wonder if HTC can or should make changes to add to realism?
Dry sense of humor is the best.
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That's my goal. I'm calling out the gaminess in the hopes that changes can be made to game-play to make it less FPS and more strategy and teamwork.
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well isent the spitfire pilots blacking out but the mustang pilots not, pretty realistic? since American pilots had the g-suit and british didnt.
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I'll add one to my post count....... Thank you.
As will I as well sir. :D
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well isent the spitfire pilots blacking out but the mustang pilots not, pretty realistic? since American pilots had the g-suit and british didnt.
No G-suits in WWII Im afraid Tyrannis, plus the P-51 was faster, making it more demanding on the pilot.
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after #4 i was getting pissed at the "who knew" at the end of every single sentence.thats when i decided just to post this that doesnt really say anything about the thread other then "who knew" was just way over used.please shoot the OP for leaving all those in.thank you,and have a nice day
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No G-suits in WWII Im afraid Tyrannis, plus the P-51 was faster, making it more demanding on the pilot.
You sure?
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/G-suit
Franks Mark I suits were used by RAF Hurricane and Spitfire pilots;
Franks Mark II suits were used by the United States Army Air Force and Royal Canadian Air Force pilots. U.S. pilots tested them during 1944, but found the water system uncomfortable and were issued an air-inflatable design known as Berger suits from September 1944.
This claims that the RAF used G-suits, but i thought the G-suit was one of the few things we didnt share with the brits?
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You sure?
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/G-suit
Franks Mark I suits were used by RAF Hurricane and Spitfire pilots;
Franks Mark II suits were used by the United States Army Air Force and Royal Canadian Air Force pilots. U.S. pilots tested them during 1944, but found the water system uncomfortable and were issued an air-inflatable design known as Berger suits from September 1944.
This claims that the RAF used G-suits, but i thought the G-suit was one of the few things we didnt share with the brits?
Right, lets use an astronomy website as a reliable source for world war 2 information.
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Right, lets use an astronomy website as a reliable source for world war 2 information.
Do astronaughts where a type of g-suit? YES.
so could it be possible that an astronomy website should have the history of the G-suit that lead up to the ones astronaughts where? sure.
Astronauts wear G-suits similar to aviators but face different challenges due to the effects of microgravity. Aviator G-suits apply uniform pressure to the lower legs to minimize the effects of high acceleration but research from the Canadian Space Agency implies there might be a benefit in having a suit for astronauts that uses a "milking action" to increase blood flow to the upper body.
If you cant prove that the source is unreliable joe, then simply shut up and dont comment on the matter. :rolleyes:
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If you cant prove that the source is unreliable joe, then simply shut up and dont comment on the matter. :rolleyes:
Prove that the source is reliable before talking smack.
I've seen a P-38 listed on a BOEING.GOV or some such website listed at 20,000 feet per second climb.
Point being, you're an idiot. Go do some actual research.
You use some ASTRONOMY.COM as if it were a 100% factual source.
Why not try looking for a GSUIT.ORG instead?
Oh, nevermind. I forget, you're completely oblivious to facts. Keep trusting in the stars my friend, I'm
sure it'll get you somewhere, some day... riiight.
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Prove that the source is reliable before talking smack.
I've seen a P-38 listed on a BOEING.GOV or some such website listed at 20,000 feet per second climb.
Point being, you're an idiot. Go do some actual research.
You use some ASTRONOMY.COM as if it were a 100% factual source.
Why not try looking for a GSUIT.ORG instead?
Oh, nevermind. I forget, you're completely oblivious to facts. Keep trusting in the stars my friend, I'm
sure it'll get you somewhere, some day... riiight.
:huh
Ive already stated the reason why it should be considered reliable.
Now instead of mouthing off some more, how about YOU go do the research and find out whether im right or wrong?
You say im "Oblivious to factS" yet you want someone else to do your research for you then take their word on the subject as soon as they themselves post a website that meets YOUR requirments.
so instead of spewing the slop that usually dribbles from your mouth joe, how about YOU go do some research? :aok And like i said, prove me wrong.
If im wrong then im wrong, but i find the website to be accurate.
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The point is not for me to do your research for you, you dolt.
The point is stop relying on other, more intelligent beings and check your own research.
What you're doing now is finding the first available link and calling it a trustworthy and accurate source
with total disregard to many other sources which, I'm sure, have a plethora of different information at
hand.
Then again, you will simply roll your little beady twelve year old eyes at me, say 'whatever, you're just
a poopyhead', and ignore (ONCE AGAIN) the advice and facts of others.
Humanity, I am disappointed.
/out
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The point is not for me to do your research for you, you dolt.
The point is stop relying on other, more intelligent beings and check your own research.
What you're doing now is finding the first available link and calling it a trustworthy and accurate source
with total disregard to many other sources which, I'm sure, have a plethora of different information at
hand.
Then again, you will simply roll your little beady twelve year old eyes at me, say 'whatever, you're just
a poopyhead', and ignore (ONCE AGAIN) the advice and facts of others.
Humanity, I am disappointed.
/out
I posted a link, which i feel is accurate on the subject.
YOU are the one challenging the accuracy of the link i have presented.
it is YOUR job to provide evidence that the link i have posted is indeed inaccurate as you claim. meaning its time for YOU to do the research yourself, and find out if what i say is wrong, or right.
You are far from intelligent joe, lets not kid ourselves otherwise. If anyone here is acting "as a 12 year old" its yourself.
Now, shut up, dry your tears, get to work on proving my link right/wrong. or get out. because all you do is mouth-off in every post you make with the same slop over and over.
There is no advice worth taking from someone as self-centered as you :rolleyes:
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If anyone here is acting "as a 12 year old" its yourself.
You are far from intelligent joe, lets not kid ourselves otherwise.
Now, shut up, dry your tears, get to work on proving my link right/wrong.
I rest my case.
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Prove that the source is reliable before talking smack.
I've seen a P-38 listed on a BOEING.GOV or some such website listed at 20,000 feet per second climb.
Point being, you're an idiot. Go do some actual research.
You use some ASTRONOMY.COM as if it were a 100% factual source.
Why not try looking for a GSUIT.ORG instead?
Oh, nevermind. I forget, you're completely oblivious to facts. Keep trusting in the stars my friend, I'm
sure it'll get you somewhere, some day... riiight.
Why must people always bag on my squad mate? :(
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I rest my case.
The point is stop relying on other, more intelligent beings and check your own research.
Then again, you will simply roll your little beady twelve year old eyes at me, say 'whatever, you're just
a poopyhead', and ignore (ONCE AGAIN) the advice and facts of others.
There is no advice worth taking from someone as self-centered as you :rolleyes:
You never had a case to begin with :rolleyes: Now run along.
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british command would send spitfires to the atlantic to look for and shoot down any lancaster that would just loiter off the coast when they were supposed to be bombing germany.
semp
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GFShill,
Spitfire and P-51 pilots in AH black out at the same G load. All pilots in AH black out at the same G load. Aircraft that can turn tighter are able to pull the Gs to black out at lower speeds so it may seem that Spitfire and Zero pilots black out easier, but they don't, they just pull more Gs.
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No G-suits in WWII Im afraid Tyrannis, plus the P-51 was faster, making it more demanding on the pilot.
Actually, towards the end of the war, we were testing G-suits. Read Bud Anderson's book, he wore a G-suit at the end of the war. At first I believe he wore a Franks Mark II suit with water bladders and then switched to the Berger suit with air bladders when the USAAF started to test them in the fall of 1944.
The RAF used the Franks Mark I suit, though I don't know the differences between the Mark I and the Mark II or why the Canadians were issued the Mark II instead of the Mark I with the rest of the RAF.
ack-ack
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G suits? I want to see modern female pilots in G strings
:cheers: Oz
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That's my goal. I'm calling out the gaminess in the hopes that changes can be made to game-play to make it less FPS and more strategy and teamwork.
"calling out the gaminess" in a GAME? :rolleyes: Yes it is a game, and not a war/simulation, so there are some concessions made to "playability" Changing how a player plays the game isn't sometime HTC seems to want to do, as long as the subscriptions keep climbing they are ok with how its played.
Why must people always bag on my squad mate? :(
because he is a loudmouth braggart who doesn't know when he should shut up. He doesn't understand the phrase "children should be seen, not heard" and so continually puts his foot in his mouth. Then we get to read all of the excuses that he can make up to extract said foot.
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because he is a loudmouth braggart who doesn't know when he should shut up. He doesn't understand the phrase "children should be seen, not heard" and so continually puts his foot in his mouth. Then we get to read all of the excuses that he can make up to extract said foot.
:huh
so, i posted a friendly, non argutive post about the G-suit..
the link i post gets challenged by someone who drags this topic down into an argument, and your going to call ME the child?
You can shove it fugi :aok funny thing is, Ack Ack repeats what the site i posted says.
Actually, towards the end of the war, we were testing G-suits. Read Bud Anderson's book, he wore a G-suit at the end of the war. At first I believe he wore a Franks Mark II suit with water bladders and then switched to the Berger suit with air bladders when the USAAF started to test them in the fall of 1944.
The RAF used the Franks Mark I suit, though I don't know the differences between the Mark I and the Mark II or why the Canadians were issued the Mark II instead of the Mark I with the rest of the RAF.
ack-ack
Franks Mark I suits were used by RAF Hurricane and Spitfire pilots;
Franks Mark II suits were used by the United States Army Air Force and Royal Canadian Air Force pilots. U.S. pilots tested them during 1944, but found the water system uncomfortable and were issued an air-inflatable design known as Berger suits from September 1944.
So, if we are to take Ack's word on it, then my source is accurate, and Joe was wrong all along.
Your ego tho fugi, i love it. :aok Its so cute. :rofl
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Tyrannis wins. AkAK agreed with him? Hmmmm :noid
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If someone is grading then asking Tyrannis to cite another source is OK. Since this isn't school but a chat board Eskimo Joe should provide better information or let it stand. It would seem there is a history here that would explain the rapid agression and insults.
Boo
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:huh
so, i posted a friendly, non argutive post about the G-suit..
the link i post gets challenged by someone who drags this topic down into an argument, and your going to call ME the child?
You can shove it fugi :aok funny thing is, Ack Ack repeats what the site i posted says.
So, if we are to take Ack's word on it, then my source is accurate, and Joe was wrong all along.
Your ego tho fugi, i love it. :aok Its so cute. :rofl
again you prove my point. There was much more said by you in that thread as well as many other threads. Some day little boy, you will learn.... either that or your going to get beat up in the school yard.... A LOT
Carry on !
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c'mon fellas, put your e-peenis away and act like adults.
Oh.. and did you know that in ground vehicles can drive inside of each other and use the MG to destroy the enemy? That is tha "phantom-cloak" we heard about. :)
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Battle of the Bulge:
While northern and eastern flanks had been heavily engaged, the northeastern section had been rather quiet. The only excitement there had been was when an M8 armored car from "E" Troop destroyed a Tiger tank. The armored car had been in a concealed position at right angles to run along a trail in front of the MLR. As the tank passed the armored car, the M8 slipped out of position and started up the trail behind the Tiger, accelerating in an attempt to close. At the same moment the German tank commander saw the M8, and started traversing his gun to bear on the armored car. It was a race between the Americans who were attempting to close so that their puny 37-mm would be effective in the Tiger’s "Achilles heel" (its thin rear armor), and the Germans who were desperately striving to bring their "88" to bear … Suddenly, the M8 had closed to 25 yards, and quickly pumped in 3 rounds… the lumbering Tiger stopped, shuddered; there was a muffled explosion, followed by flames which bellowed out of the turret and engine ports, after which the armored car returned to its position.
WHO'D A THOUGHT!
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who woulda thought? eskimo lighting up a flame war.
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From every thing I have read about the Battle of Midway, and it is considerable, The B-24s didn't hit any targets. Torpedo 8 didn't actually save Midway, but what they DID was the stuff of legends. Although most of you already know the story, I won't go into detail. But the basics are that Torpedo 8, heading in before the rest of the attack was able to bring the Japanese fighter cap down to the deck which allowed the Dive Bombers to attack unimpeded.
Three Books I would recommend on this subject are:
"A Dawn Like Thunder" The True Story of Torpedo Squadron Eight, by Robert J. Mrazek. 2008
"No Higher Honor" The USS Yorktown at the Battle of Midway,
By Jeff Nesmith. 1999
And Finally; Gordon W. Prange's "Midway" Probably one of the Best books written about the Battle.
Who Knew! :old:
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If you really want to see a very stirring and moving film about VT-8, watch John Ford's war time film "Torpedo Squadron 8". Unlike John Ford's other war time films, he made this one for the families of the members of VT-8 and was never intended to be shown to the public as only 30 copies (one for each family) was made. Only time the Navy has honored a squadron in this way.
ack-ack
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Through a reliable source (http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=18076) I've learned the sun is really only 500 miles away:
To start off with, the sun is hot enough to glow yellow, so we can use Wein's Displacement Law to determine the temperature.
Wein's Displacement Law:
Peak Wavelength in meters = displacement constant / temperature in Kelvin
Yellow light has a wavelength between 570nm and 580nm, so we'll solve for 575nm. Since we are working with nanometers rather than meters, we'll simplify the math by multiplying the displacement constant by 10^9.
575 = 2897768.5/T
575 * T = 2897768.5
T = 2897768.5/575
T = 5039.6° K (8611.6° F)
So the sun is about 5039.6° Kelvin.
Now, the average temperature of the earth is 59° F, or about 288° K. The mean temperature gradient of the troposphere is 6° K/km, so let's solve for the distance.
d = (5039.6 - 288)/6
d = 791.9 km (491.1 miles)
There you have it. The sun is roughly 491.1 miles overhead. Depending on the exact shade of yellow (whether it's closer to 570nm or 580nm), this figure could be off by as much as 5 miles. However, I don't have a spectrometer handy, and I'm willing to live with an uncertainty of ±5 miles. It's not like I'm planning to visit anytime soon -- my shoes would melt .
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Back to the OP's B.S. topic:
11. Enemy airfields were a five minute flight away.
And, most importantly:
12. No one ever dies in a war. They just .ef and re-up.
:bhead
wrongway
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Dont forget it is also powered by coal
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Wasent there a dive-bomber who's gunner threw toilet paper at enemy planes to scare them?
Seems like that fact would fit in perfect for this topic.
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Can't leave out the USN ice cream ships, considered by sailors to be one of the most important ships in the fleet.
ack-ack
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Through a reliable source (http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=18076) I've learned the sun is really only 500 miles away:
:rofl :rofl You have no idea how difficult it is to read that thread with a straight face.
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Through a reliable source (http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=18076) I've learned the sun is really only 500 miles away:
omg im throwing up omg omg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i looked at the webstie, it gets worst and worst omg im feeling bad D: and there are pictures of kkk people too D:
"...since the sun is made of coal..."
"It could also be that the sun gets hotter in the summer and colder in the winter"
what the hell is this!?
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omg im taking off to college now (vacation is over) and im feeling bad ): i really hope they don't state earth is flat
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They already did. :rofl Oh, and that guys a True ChristianTM who has experienced True Salvation®
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omg im taking off to college now (vacation is over) and im feeling bad ): i really hope they don't state earth is flat
its not??
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WWII was no game.
AH is a game that has to adhear to gamability issues.
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omg im taking off to college now (vacation is over) and im feeling bad ): i really hope they don't state earth is flat
Don't be silly. The Earth is flat. Just look at how it's modeled in AH for proof.
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Don't be silly. The Earth is flat. Just look at how it's modeled in AH for proof.
Go high enough (alt 30k+) and you'll see it's curved.
:noid
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omg im throwing up omg omg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i looked at the webstie, it gets worst and worst omg im feeling bad D: and there are pictures of kkk people too D:
"...since the sun is made of coal..."
"It could also be that the sun gets hotter in the summer and colder in the winter"
what the hell is this!?
that site is a well documented prank :rofl.
semp
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Go high enough (alt 30k+) and you'll see it's curved.
:noid
Well dang it,... :cry and to think all these years I thought the AH physics was right. This needs to go to the top of the list for all AH gaminess fixes!!
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Well dang it,... :cry and to think all these years I thought the AH physics was right. This needs to go to the top of the list for all AH gaminess fixes!!
Question is: If you had enough fuel and fly off of one end of the map... will you come back, after enough time has passed, and return on the other side of the map?
:noid
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G suits? I want to see modern female pilots in G strings
:cheers: Oz
Nah. I want to see 'em in "gown less evening straps"! :O
Nutz
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Question is: If you had enough fuel and fly off of one end of the map... will you come back, after enough time has passed, and return on the other side of the map?
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Well, that's a silly question. Everyone knows because the world is flat you'd fly off the edge into oblivion!! :joystick: (You see, we've actually tested this in AH - called EOW or edge-of-the-world tactics, another strange but true WW2 tale.).
And just in case people doubt the earth is flat, I have primary source charts to prove it:
(http://thetongsweb.net/images/world_flat.jpg)(http://thetongsweb.net/images/flat-square-earth-map-smaller.jpg)
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Not flat.
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6015/5957910980_5b6df92338_b.jpg)
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Not flat.
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6015/5957910980_5b6df92338_b.jpg)
:O Space is light blue. Who knew?
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Wow, I didn't know the Me-163 was the first Space Shuttle. Who knew?
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Not flat.
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6015/5957910980_5b6df92338_b.jpg)
rofl
Couldn't possibly be a round cloud. Nope. You can see the entire planet from 90k, it just happens to be cloudy that day everywhere
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No G-suits in WWII Im afraid Tyrannis, plus the P-51 was faster, making it more demanding on the pilot.
what.
the.
hell.
kind of bullsheeto kinda po..... ahhhhhh forget it.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2563/4176852486_2f1e1f8317_o.jpg)
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Can't leave out the USN ice cream ships, considered by sailors to be one of the most important ships in the fleet.
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Reminds me of the story about the USS Kidd DD 661.
It was early on at this point in her career when she picked up the nickname that would become her trademark. Taking their mascot pirate to heart, crew members began to "ransom" rescued pilots for ice cream mix and other delicacies from their comrades aboard aircraft carriers so that her reputation grew as the "Pirate of the Pacific." Other destroyers conducted this practice, but KIDD did so with a certain flair. The Pirates were one of the first "tin cans"—destroyers—to have their very own ice cream machine, something usually reserved for the larger vessels of the fleet
http://www.usskidd.com/
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rofl
Couldn't possibly be a round cloud. Nope. You can see the entire planet from 9k, it just happens to be cloudy that day everywhere
:headscratch: Um, Zoney.... you mean 83.8k? :D
You still :furious ? :bhead :neener:
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that site is a well documented prank :rofl.
semp
are you serious?! i hope it is a prank, i really do, i already told my friends about this and i preffer beeing stupid to fall on this prank then knowing people actually think that kind of stuff make any sense.
if it is a prank, oh my thats a REALLY good one, scared the hell outa me.
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are you serious?! i hope it is a prank, i really do, i already told my friends about this and i preffer beeing stupid to fall on this prank then knowing people actually think that kind of stuff make any sense.
if it is a prank, oh my thats a REALLY good one, scared the hell outa me.
Yeah, it is fake ;)
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New York Times
U.S.
Earl H. Wood Is Dead at 97; Helped Invent G-Suit
By JEREMY PEARCE
Published: March 26, 2009
Dr. Earl H. Wood, a physiologist and an essential member of the team that invented a revolutionary pressurized garment, the G-suit, that helps pilots avoid blacking out while in flight, died on March 18 in Rochester, Minn. He was 97.
Mayo Clinic
Dr. Earl H. Wood, in the 1940s, in a human centrifuge his team used to create G-forces and a design to counteract them.
Dr. Wood’s death was confirmed by his family.
In 1942, Dr. Wood joined a pioneering team at the Mayo Clinic that was charged with helping military air crews survive increased physical stress brought to bear by more powerful aircraft.
Turning and diving in faster planes leads to a sharp increase in forces created by acceleration, also known as g forces (so-named because they could be several times the force of gravity). The acceleration temporarily impedes the heart’s pumping power and cuts blood supply to the brain. A tight turn might cause the pilot to lose consciousness briefly, leading to a crash.
The Mayo team set out to study the forces’ physiological effects and how it might be possible to counteract them. Other researchers had already devised a water-filled suit to stabilize a pilot’s blood pressure, but the device, the Franks flying suit, was found to be too cumbersome and too heavy for use in tropical climates.
Dr. Wood and the team, which included Edward Baldes, Charles Code, Edward Lambert and others, built a centrifuge and attached a basket to carry a human rider.
When the centrifuge whirled, G-forces acted on the rider, whose blood pressures at the head and heart levels were measured with special instruments. The rider sometimes blacked out.
Dr. Wood himself was a regular volunteer for the centrifuge. He later noted with mild surprise that in the course of hundreds of rides he had lost consciousness for a total of 15 minutes, without any lasting ill effects.
To counter a precipitous drop in blood pressure, the team designed a suit that placed air bladders at a pilot’s calves, thighs and abdomen; a valve inflated the bladders as G-forces increased. Constriction of the bladders on the arteries raised blood pressure and helped keep blood flowing to the brain. The suit’s prototype was tested successfully by Dr. Wood and others in a dive bomber on flights that involved steep descents.
At the same time, the Mayo team developed an exercise, called the M1 maneuver, in which a pilot would shout or grunt under G-force conditions. The grunting compressed arteries and tensed muscles and was at least as important as the revolutionary suit for resisting G-forces.
The team’s suit and recommendations were initially resisted by some pilots, who found flying under fire distracting enough. But figures comparing numbers of enemy planes shot down by fighter pilots strongly suggested that pilots who wore G-suits were more successful than those who did not.
The suit was issued to combat pilots in 1944. By the late 1940s, with the introduction of jet aircraft, G-suits based on the Mayo pattern came into general use and remain standard today.
In the 1950s and ’60s, Dr. Wood went on to study and refine techniques for measuring blood flow within and to the heart, in work that helped pave the way for cardiac catheterization. That research was rooted in the Mayo team’s blood pressure experiments on the centrifuge, said Dr. Jan Stepanek, an assistant professor of medicine at Mayo and a senior aviation medical examiner for the Federal Aviation Administration.
In 1955, Dr. Wood received a patent for an oximeter, a diagnostic tool used to measure oxygen levels in the bloodstream. His device could be clamped to a patient’s ear to show the level optically, without having to draw blood. He also helped develop a light-absorbing green dye, indocyanine, used in tracing the circulatory system and diagnosing heart defects.
Earl Howard Wood was born in Mankato, Minn., to a family of academics and public servants. Dr. Wood’s sister, Louise A. Wood, was executive director of the Girl Scouts of America from 1961 to 1972. A brother, Dr. Harland Wood, was chairman of the biochemistry department at Case Western.
Earl Wood received his medical degree and a doctorate in physiology from the University of Minnesota in 1941.
He taught briefly at the University of Pennsylvania and Harvard before joining Mayo, which named him a professor of physiology and medicine in 1951. From 1962 to 1967, Dr. Wood was also a career investigator for the American Heart Association. He retired from Mayo in 1982.
He was a former president of the American Physiology Society.
Dr. Wood, who lived in Rochester, is survived by a daughter, Phoebe Busch of Denver; three sons, E. Andrew, of Rochester, Guy, of Corvallis, Ore., and Mark, of Fresno, Calif.; and four grandchildren.
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I didn't bother reading all that crap, who knew?