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General Forums => Custom Skins => Topic started by: Slash27 on July 31, 2011, 04:03:43 AM
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I know it's a bit much asking for more P-51D skins with so many ready and in the works. I really want PAC/CBI skins worked in ahead of the others. That being said, if a slot comes open or is left over I request this aircraft flown by ace Col. Elwyn G. Righetti.
http://www.station131.co.uk/55th/Pilots/Righetti%20Elwyn%20G%20LtCol.htm
(http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/2/9/9/0/4/a2774219-18-p51_katydid.jpg)
(http://www.station131.co.uk/55th/images/Plane%20Profiles/Headquarters/P-51D%2044-72227%20CL-M%20KatyDid.jpg)
(http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/2/9/9/0/4/a2774220-66-katydid_noseart.gif) (http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb391/NSFD3/katydid_victorymark.gif)
(http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb391/NSFD3/Katydid.jpg)
(http://www.station131.co.uk/55th/images/Plane%20Photos/P-51D%2044-14223%20KatyDid%20CL-M.jpg)
(http://www.station131.co.uk/55th/images/Plane%20Photos/P-51D%2044-72227%20KatyDid%20CL-M.jpg)
I love this Mustang. What are your thoughts?
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why is it we can have boobies on the side of our planes but not on the forums? :noid
...oh, and nice plane :aok :P
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...oh, and nice plane :aok :P
She is pretty sweet. We may be P-51'ed out around here though. :D
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It's.... "okay".... But we already have one with a full green tail (not just rudder) that IMO looks a bit better.
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She is pretty sweet. We may be P-51'ed out around here though. :D
Is it weird if i say the green&yellow nose makes me think of it as a john-deere looking mustang? :noid
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It's.... "okay".... But we already have one with a full green tail (not just rudder) that IMO looks a bit better.
Not really the point but I had no doubt you'd swing by and look down your nose at it.
Is it weird if i say the green&yellow nose makes me think of it as a john-deere looking mustang? :noid
Not wierd at all. :D
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Not really the point but I had no doubt you'd swing by and look down your nose at it.
Aren't you supposed to be trolling the O'Club forum?
I was not looking down my nose at it. The fact of the matter is we had so many P-51 skins backlogged that we still may yet have many free slots let. Many of those will be similar in some way. We already have a nice green tailed skin for the P-51.
Under the same logic, I wouldn't want to skin 50 different Bf109s with yellow noses to show all the tiny minor variations. Just a handful will cover most of the basic markings and will get the job done.
Not really the point? It's exactly the point. While we don't have that many PTO/PAC skins in game NOW, there are many that have been submitted and the screenshots shown. One of them was just recently, but the search is disabled (I can't give you a forum link). It's an all-green tail P-51 from Okinawa, I believe. I think that does the job better and is already created and submitted.
So how is that "not really the point"?
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So how is that "not really the point"?
It's about the pilot and his plane you self righteous windbag. Not whether we have a plane with a green tail already. Sorry, but I'm never going to buy in to your belief that everything in AH has to be run by you first..
Not really the point? It's exactly the point. While we don't have that many PTO/PAC skins in game NOW, there are many that have been submitted and the screenshots shown. One of them was just recently, but the search is disabled (I can't give you a forum link). It's an all-green tail P-51 from Okinawa, I believe. I think that does the job better and is already created and submitted.
Did you even stop to notice this isn't a PTO P-51, or were too caught up in talking down to me because I don't belong here?
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I think the custom kill marks are worthy by themselves!!!
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See Rule #4
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I think the custom kill marks are worthy by themselves!!!
Agreed :aok
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Did you even stop to notice this isn't a PTO P-51, or were too caught up in talking down to me because I don't belong here?
Matter of fact you really don't (in my opinion), IF this is the only way you can post. If you can hold a discussion without resorting to insults (I remain unconvinced with your past record) then you may belong here.
Has nothing to do with me. Has to do with how YOU behave.
I guess I was just thrown off by your own words when you said: "I really want PAC/CBI skins worked in ahead of the others" and presented this skin. For my part, I will say "sorry" for the O'club crack, but you jumped off the handle from zero-to-insult in 0.0 seconds. It is unwarranted and undeserved.
Contrary to how you want to put words in my mouth and spin insults against me, I don't pretend to run things around here. YOU like to pretend you have some authority, though. You fall all over yourself every time you can to insult me. I assume this goes back to the AvA forums and the insults I receive there? (Note your subtitle under your forum ID) You and the muppet cheer squad pals stormed this forum not too long ago and let's just say the noise you introduce is more than the signal you send. Mostly ego massaging unhelpful posts, attacking me for critiquing Ink's skin, but I notice not the other half dozen skinners saying the same thing.
Based on your own phrasing/wording of the original post, I took it to be a PTO skin. Mystery solved. No fault of mine.
I think the custom kill marks are worthy by themselves!!!
That is true. They do have a "charm" of their own.
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I do hope these tangents don't annoy the regulars too much. I'm getting tired of the insulters migrating to the skins forum, and am feeling the need to defend myself repeatedly from unwarranted attacks.
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you guys just like throwing fireballs at eachother, both of you knew what eachother meant with their posts.
the first guy liked a skin and posted it up here
then the other guy comes and says "well... there are a lot of different skins for the pony out there and one guy just took the work to send one skin that looks like this one so it wouldn't be nice etc etc.."
and then instead of diying here with both guys agreeing that it is a good paintscheeme but there is no reason to make it at all you just act like 5 years old lil guys :D and well the public likes it, you guys like it.
Personally I like the skin but if that's the case that we have a limit for skins and there are a lot of different choices out there, there is no reason for making it but also no reason to shoot at someone who found a skin. nothing of these would happen if we had like 500 skin limit.
:noid wish?
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Few things.
First of all the pilot of this plane was a great leader and a tragic loss. The exact cause of his death was never confirmed but he made it down alright. Its a famous aircraft and worthy of inclusion in the over all scheme of things.
Secondly. This would be the second 55th FG skin. Cactus recently added one. Nothing wrong with that as the color scheme is completely different.
Thirdly. I think this has been done before. The search function isn't working for me right now however. I thought Raven had done it way back when before he disappeared for a time. He may have never submitted it. I know he did another 55th FG skin in the same relative time period but it had a upper fusalage OD green with a plain metalic swoop on the lower nose.
Lastly. Krusty I supported you in that other matter, and you know I don't beat on you like some on here for the kick of it, you have definate contributions to the skinning community. However your continued ignorance as to USAAF paint schemes and markings does you a great disservice. A "green tailed" P-51D is far from the same as this skin. Please.. posting a comment isn't always the best move before checking into it.
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Having the search back would be a little handy.
Apologies for the side show, I shouldn't have poked him in public.
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Secondly. This would be the second 55th FG skin. Cactus recently added one. Nothing wrong with that as the color scheme is completely different.
Mine was a 20th FG bird. Raven's upper OD skin you mentioned is the only 55th P-51 that I can recall as well, and a nice one at that.
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It would be nice to see Eager El's bird done in his memory.
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Mine was a 20th FG bird. Raven's upper OD skin you mentioned is the only 55th P-51 that I can recall as well, and a nice one at that.
TY for that skin btw :salute
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Mine was a 20th FG bird. Raven's upper OD skin you mentioned is the only 55th P-51 that I can recall as well, and a nice one at that.
Ah yes my fault, lovely 20th skin too. I get all those "wanna be 8th AF Fighter Groups" who transfered from twin engined bombers mixed up some times. Thanks.
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Fencer, did you not also wish to spread the "samples" out, diversity-wise? As mentioned we will only have so many slots, and the request was to include a diverse range of them (including PTO) as best we can?
I think you get that I was not saying "all green tails are the same" but rather that I was saying "We do have a good green tail, so maybe having multiples is counter-productive" -- regardless of the unit involved, at least that kind of marking will be represented in-game.
You could sit there and say all the units are different, and you'd be right. I could also sit here and say how all the Luftwaffe 109 units were different, and I'd be right. But I'm not advocating for more yellow-nosed Bf109F-4s, if you see my point?
My reply was not posted in ignorance -- It was posted in the spirit of moderation.
I would have replied the same if somebody were requesting a BMF Pony with a black and white checker nose. Sorry if you think I was ignoring different units, but I wasn't. It wasn't about the unit. With that said, I think it's clear what I meant now. Sorry if I irritated you.
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Fencer, did you not also wish to spread the "samples" out, diversity-wise? As mentioned we will only have so many slots, and the request was to include a diverse range of them (including PTO) as best we can?
I think you get that I was not saying "all green tails are the same" but rather that I was saying "We do have a good green tail, so maybe having multiples is counter-productive" -- regardless of the unit involved, at least that kind of marking will be represented in-game.
You could sit there and say all the units are different, and you'd be right. I could also sit here and say how all the Luftwaffe 109 units were different, and I'd be right. But I'm not advocating for more yellow-nosed Bf109F-4s, if you see my point?
My reply was not posted in ignorance -- It was posted in the spirit of moderation.
I would have replied the same if somebody were requesting a BMF Pony with a black and white checker nose. Sorry if you think I was ignoring different units, but I wasn't. It wasn't about the unit. With that said, I think it's clear what I meant now. Sorry if I irritated you.
Krusty, no they are not even remotely the same. We are spreading it out, just because they are green tailed.. sigh.. we have been through this before and you still don't get it.. that's fine.. I will keep reminding you. ;) And I am for any aircraft which is a different unit. We don't have a 359th FG bird.
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You don't need to.
If you really want a green rudder and green nose, go for it. I simply suggest caution. Lots of caution. Lots and lots of caution. Lest we get in the same boat we just got out of.
Just because it has a different number in the name doesn't make it all that distinct from the unit 1 number up or down. (I'm not going to start a war on that. I'm right, technically speaking. I'm not talking about individuals or the history of the units -- I'm talking looking at the skins list in the hangar and making a choice) We want to make it distinctive.
Look at the cookie cutter P-47s we had for a while, eh? Mostly the same except for a yellow ring around the star, or a red ring, or a blue ring. What about all the zeros with nearly identical markings (only difference being the tail stripe)? I think visual distinctiveness is JUST as important as the name of the unit that goes with it. I can probably list a dozen P-40E skins of different units that all fall into the same color scheme, or even identical markings save for the tail codes.
You cannot have a skin for every unit that used a certain plane. There were more planes used in the war than we'd ever be able to skin. You have to draw a line, correct? Logically, the solution then is to balance different units with different markings, don't you think? That way when 2 skins are next to each other on the runway, or in-flight, they are distinct from each other at a glance. In addition to having different units. That way, logically, you not only get visual diversity, you get unit diversity as well.
I'm not saying you're wrong Fencer. I'm just saying the unit alone can't be the only thing considered. It's a total package deal.
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I'm not saying you're wrong Fencer. I'm just saying the unit alone can't be the only thing considered. It's a total package deal.
I agree with that. Look up the pilot of the requested P-51D.
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I agree with that. Look up the pilot of the requested P-51D.
Amen to that. The man who flew that machine was one heckuva fighter leader.
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You know I wish the game supported a popup or rollover box showing information about each skin; maybe a short paragraph describing the pilot, the scheme, theater of service, etc.
Would be a great educational feature and add to the game's depth, imo.
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I do hope these tangents don't annoy the regulars too much. I'm getting tired of the insulters migrating to the skins forum, and am feeling the need to defend myself repeatedly from unwarranted attacks.
Have you ever stopped and thought that it might not be the "insulters" that are the problem?
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So is anyone going to quit bickering and skin this beauty? :P
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You know I wish the game supported a popup or rollover box showing information about each skin; maybe a short paragraph describing the pilot, the scheme, theater of service, etc.
Would be a great educational feature and add to the game's depth, imo.
Rise of Flight does that for its skins but its WW1 a/c.
big Plus 1 to this skin if not for the color then the man himself.
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I would love to do it, but I am going to have to take a break from things for a couple months, if not longer.
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Been experimenting with a new metal look and thought I'd try it out with this one. This is way early on - lots of errors to yet fix and weathering, scratches and detail to add. Haven't balanced the rivet or screw layers yet, or added panel section texturing. The checkerboard nose is a real pain and its still not quite right but I'll get there.
But, in memory of "Eager El" -
(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd148/tjlaven/Katydid.jpg)
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Very nice Oboe
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Beatutiful, oboe. :)
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Great looking skin Oboe.
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:O :rock
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Heck of a start. :aok
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Looks great, Oboe.
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Been experimenting with a new metal look and thought I'd try it out with this one. This is way early on - lots of errors to yet fix and weathering, scratches and detail to add. Haven't balanced the rivet or screw layers yet, or added panel section texturing. The checkerboard nose is a real pain and its still not quite right but I'll get there.
But, in memory of "Eager El" -
(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd148/tjlaven/Katydid.jpg)
Oboe, this looks fantastic! Keep us posted on your progress and post up more pics. :aok
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Oboe!!!! :banana:
I always liked you best. :D