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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: SilverZ06 on August 08, 2011, 08:14:31 AM
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I am selling one of my cars so I want to allocate ~$800.00 to get a new pc. My current one struggles to run 60fps with only bump map terrain enabled and no other players near. Is there a pc out there that will run this game on a 25" monitor with the high res pack as well as all the eye candy for around $800? If you can find one/spec one and I buy it, i'll pay your ah subscriptionu for a month.
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interesting idea...could be possible if you already have a good monitor, that would cut ~150 off the total.
just a thought:
AMD Phenom II X2 560 Black Edition Callisto 3.3GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Desktop Processor
(newegg $91 - free shipping)
ASUS M4A89TD PRO/USB3 AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
(newegg $170 + $5 shipping)
Thermaltake V3 Black Edition VL80001W2Z Black SECC / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
(newegg $45 - free shipping)
Corsair Builder Series CX600 600 watt 80 Plus Certified Power Supply Compatible with Intel and AMD Platforms ATX 700 CMPSU-600CXV2
(amazon $66.24 - free prime shipping) (newegg $68 + $4 shipping)
CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model TW3X4G1333C9A G
(newegg $40 - free shipping) (amazon $40 - free prime shipping)
Western Digital Caviar Black WD5002AALX 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
(newegg $60 + $5 shipping) (amazon $60 - free prime shipping)
SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model SH-222AL LightScribe
(newegg $23 - free shipping)
XFX HD-677X-ZNFC Radeon HD 6770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
(newegg $135 + $7.56 shipping)
*edit* forgot operating system - Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
(microsoft doesn't provide tech support for oem, just updates and stuff like that)
($100 - free shipping)
grand total including shipping = $752.55
add 22 inch lcd monitor for ~ $150 extra
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http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,317738.30.html
is my set up right now. all my prices are in there, and i can run AH on full eye candy and for the most part i never drop below 50 FPS. :banana:
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http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,317738.30.html
is my set up right now. all my prices are in there, and i can run AH on full eye candy and for the most part i never drop below 50 FPS. :banana:
a little too rich for my blood but nice system mason :aok
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a little too rich for my blood but nice system mason :aok
"a little to rich" meaning over kil, or not built enough?
thank you for the Keyboard and mouse btw! :rock :salute :cheers:
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Cyberpower.com
:cheers: Oz
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I"d contact TilDeath and ask him for a quote.
Wurz (you can thank me by not shooting me down!!!)
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can you reuse some old parts? cd rom, hd, ps, case? what do you currently have?
semp
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I can't really reuse anything now because my wife is going to use the current machine to do digital scrap booking. I already have a 24" monitor. My current pc is an older HP desktop. The specs are in the "cooling fan runs all the time" thread. I am on my phone otherwise I would copy and paste it here.
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Last year we all pitched in with donations and I built a squaddie a system with limited funds as his old computer was.. well I'm surprised it even loaded AH! It was so old and so slow that his vox would make the game cut out and he was struggling to see 10fps with all options OFF and that limited him to goon running (barely).
Anyway, working with a strict budget of $500 I was able to build him something that runs AH quite nicely. With all graphics options on except shadows he see 55-60fps all of the time at 1920X1080 resolution.
It really was nothing special.. an AM3 motherboard, 4GB DDR3 ram, 1TB Hard drive, ATI Regor processor (2.7GHZ if I remember correctly), ATI 5770 video card, 650 Watt Seasonic power supply, cheap computer case, cheap DVD-rom. It actually turned out to be much faster than I was thinking!
We also had a squaddie donate a monitor and another donated a copy of XP Home for him so that $500 was for the computer itself only, so yeah your $800 can go VERY FAR if aces high is your primary game.
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interesting idea...could be possible if you already have a good monitor, that would cut ~150 off the total.
just a thought:
*lotsa stuff*
Thats system will run AH very well except the shadowing, you wont be able to set it higher than 4096.
-Note that the phenom2 x2 processors have two other cores. You can unlock them in the BIOS. With a custom cooling (f.e. cooler master hyper412+) they can be pushed up to 3.8 GHz without overvoltage. Even if you dont wanna oc, a hyperTX3 is much better than the oroginal cooler.
-I would give it four sticks of RAM.
Thats a decent system.
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Here's one I just speced for someone else a month ago:
OK so I bit the bullet. Here's an idea for you. I'm not totally satisfied with this and it needs some tweaking but it will give you a good starting point for comparison. Most of this is good quality components and it's reasonably balanced but again, I'd do some tweaking before placing an order. This is if you're willing to build it. Building is comperable to playing with an erector set:
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here's a better newer system for 30 bucks more. i would update the cpu and the ram, but I am pretty sure it will play with everything maxed out as is.
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Gamer_Xtreme_1000/
semp
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here's a better newer system for 30 bucks more. i would update the cpu and the ram, but I am pretty sure it will play with everything maxed out as is.
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Gamer_Xtreme_1000/
semp
personally i wouldn't touch that one just because of the motherboards they use. for intel cpu's there are much better mobos available from intel, xfx and evga with much better warranties, they're also more expensive.
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Thats system will run AH very well except the shadowing, you wont be able to set it higher than 4096.
-Note that the phenom2 x2 processors have two other cores. You can unlock them in the BIOS. With a custom cooling (f.e. cooler master hyper412+) they can be pushed up to 3.8 GHz without overvoltage. Even if you dont wanna oc, a hyperTX3 is much better than the oroginal cooler.
-I would give it four sticks of RAM.
Thats a decent system.
Not all Phenomx2 processors are able to unlock to x4 quad. If a person buys a dual core Phenom and is able to unlock it to a a quad consider it a bonus (Do not buy a phenom x2 and think its a given that it will unlock). Also there is a feature or 2 which will not work, like core temp I think is one. It has been awhile since I have read up on unlocking and I do not remember off hand.
A 3.2 phenom x2 will handle Ah fine.
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Not all Phenomx2 processors are able to unlock to x4 quad. If a person buys a dual core Phenom and is able to unlock it to a a quad consider it a bonus (Do not buy a phenom x2 and think its a given that it will unlock). Also there is a feature or 2 which will not work, like core temp I think is one. It has been awhile since I have read up on unlocking and I do not remember off hand.
A 3.2 phenom x2 will handle Ah fine.
PhenomIIx2 Blck Editions are unlockable.
Just built two comps, one with the x2 555 and one with the x4 955 (both 3.2 GHz). Unlocked the 555 to B55 (works as a 955), and the two comps work just the same. It has some risks tho, not guaranteed that the other cores arent damaged.
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It wouldn't matter if you could unlock cores or not for AH since AH only uses two cores although it might be useful for other non-gaming applications.
Just want to make sure the OP doesn't think he's going to get some big bump in AH performance by buying a CPU with more than two cores.
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It wouldn't matter if you could unlock cores or not for AH since AH only uses two cores although it might be useful for other non-gaming applications.
Just want to make sure the OP doesn't think he's going to get some big bump in AH performance by buying a CPU with more than two cores.
this... i have an AMD Phenom II X6 (6 cores). will i ever need all 6? doubtful, but its useful or other non-gaming related tasks. i would be happy with 4 cores though, 6 is over kill.
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Do dual core is really i need then. This computer will be designated purely for AH. My current pc will be used for everything else as it is a decent pc for "everyday" computing. I kind of like the chalange of piecing together my own system as I have never done it and would love to learn. However it does seem almost cheaper to buy a premade system. I think i could skimp on a hd since really AH and an operating system will be all thats installed. decisions decisions..... :headscratch:
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Do dual core is really i need then. This computer will be designated purely for AH. My current pc will be used for everything else as it is a decent pc for "everyday" computing. I kind of like the chalange of piecing together my own system as I have never done it and would love to learn. However it does seem almost cheaper to buy a premade system. I think i could skimp on a hd since really AH and an operating system will be all thats installed. decisions decisions..... :headscratch:
if your only usin it for AH and the OS, you shouldnt need anymore then a 50GB :lol ive got AH, OS, Mozilla, Microsoft office, iTunes and many other things and i just barely broke the 50GB mark....
Personally, the issue with a premade system is (i feel) a lot of work needs to be done to run AH with full eye candy (I believe oyu said you would hope for this in the OP). new PSU, new vid card, theres 200 bucks there give or take a few, your gonna spend 5 or 600 on a new system to have to redo part of it anyway.
just my .02
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you are correct. my main goal is full eye candy with the high res pack.
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Then you can do it way under 800.
for example:
mobo: Gigabyte GA-MA78LMT-US2H 75 bucks in Hungary
cpu: phneomx2 555 100 bucks here
cooling: Cooler Master HyperTx3 25 bucks
ram: your choice, 4x1GB is under 50 bucks
hdd: many choices under 50 bucks
monitor: many choices around 21" and 150 bucks, you cant go wrong
optical drive: cheap dvd drive around 30 bucks
PSU: dont be cheap on this, many choices around 500W and 50 bucks, more than enough for AH
GPU: around 150 bucks: hd 5770, 6790 or 6850
case: any cheap case, many choices around 40-50 bucks
All around 650 dollars if the prices are the same in the states. Plus 20 on the keyboard, mouse, headset.
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Personally, the issue with a premade system is (i feel) a lot of work needs to be done to run AH with full eye candy (I believe oyu said you would hope for this in the OP). new PSU, new vid card, theres 200 bucks there give or take a few, your gonna spend 5 or 600 on a new system to have to redo part of it anyway.
just my .02
very true. with a full pre-built or barebones unit you have no choice in certain hardware, specifically the mobo, ram, power supply just to start with. for me, the motherboard is pretty much the foundation of the system. the compatibility with different hardware, chipset combinations, reliability, etc... buy a factory build or a barebones unit and you don't get to choose the motherboard and the computer company has to make a profit so they will not use as high end a mobo as you would want. same goes for psu, ram and the hard drive.
as of right now, for amd cpu's that mobo i listed has the best chipset combination for performance and compatibility. almost any am3 cpu will work on it.
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one thing i found out is when you build your own system, you can build one for really cheap that will play aces high nicely. but if you want to do something else you will want to upgrade. you can build a good system for under 700 bucks, or you can build a top of the line for 1k. difference is you wont have to upgrade next year if you want to start doing something else. you can play ah on a dual core sytem, but they are dated as now just about everything built is 4 core. and that inexpensive mobo you bought may not be accommodate a second video card you got down the road and even if it did, you may now have to upgrade you ram. I believe that if you are gonna spend the money, then get something that will meet your future needs. not saying waste your money foolishly, but spend it wisely. a better processor/ram/mobo may cost you about a third of the money you may spend next year because you want to upgrade for whatever reason.
skuzzy has said many times that most of the problems he sees are from amd based systems. so it is fair to bring that out, but the choice is up to you. good luck, building a system is lots of fun. and once you do, you get addicted to trying to make it better :D.
semp
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one thing i found out is when you build your own system, you can build one for really cheap that will play aces high nicely. but if you want to do something else you will want to upgrade. you can build a good system for under 700 bucks, or you can build a top of the line for 1k. difference is you wont have to upgrade next year if you want to start doing something else. you can play ah on a dual core sytem, but they are dated as now just about everything built is 4 core. and that inexpensive mobo you bought may not be accommodate a second video card you got down the road and even if it did, you may now have to upgrade you ram. I believe that if you are gonna spend the money, then get something that will meet your future needs. not saying waste your money foolishly, but spend it wisely. a better processor/ram/mobo may cost you about a third of the money you may spend next year because you want to upgrade for whatever reason.
skuzzy has said many times that most of the problems he sees are from amd based systems. so it is fair to bring that out, but the choice is up to you. good luck, building a system is lots of fun. and once you do, you get addicted to trying to make it better :D.
semp
all of that... why i wanna switch to Intel.. but i would need a new mobo, CPU and in the future vid card :cry
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This article on Maximum PC (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/cheapskates_guide_power_computing_31_ways_save_money_without_sacrificing_performance?page=0,0) details how they put a machine together - with a few chosen compromises, like the PSU and hard disk size - for just under US $600:
CPU Intel Core i3 2100
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-H67M-D2
Memory Corsair TW3X4G1333C9 DDR3-1333 Kit
Case and Power Supply Cooler Master 534 with 460W PSU
Graphics HIS Radeon HD 5750
Hard Drive Seagate 7200.12 160GB
Optical Drive LG GGH22NS50B DVD Burner
OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 (OEM)
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This is a computer build I have presented to a friend of mine who was looking to upgrade by buying a whole new, built from scratch system.
Monitor:
Hanns·G HZ201DPB Black 20" WideScreen LCD Monitor w/Speakers
RAM:
G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory
Hard Disk:
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s
Video Card:
ASUS GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Fermi) ENGTX550 TI DC/DI/1GD5 Video Card
Sound Card:
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy SE Sound Card
Motherboard & CPU
MSI 870-G45 ATX AMD Motherboard
AMD Phenom II X4 925 2.8GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor
Disc Drives:
SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-222AB
Case:
Rosewill FUTURE Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Power Supply:
Rosewill RV2-700 700W Power Supply
Total : $567 dollars and there's about 15 dollars worth of shipping since almost all components have free shipping.
Only additional cost is the keyboard and mouse..which I always tell my friends to go buy it in best buy since there's so many shapes, sizes, etc.
Gotta love newegg :)
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Tac, I have the same moniter that you did for your buddy. Its a nice little moniter for the price. hell like it.
Newegg is where i shall always go unless TD can beat the price or match it.
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Not all Phenomx2 processors are able to unlock to x4 quad. If a person buys a dual core Phenom and is able to unlock it to a a quad consider it a bonus (Do not buy a phenom x2 and think its a given that it will unlock). Also there is a feature or 2 which will not work, like core temp I think is one. It has been awhile since I have read up on unlocking and I do not remember off hand.
A 3.2 phenom x2 will handle Ah fine.
PhenomIIx2 Blck Editions are unlockable.
Just built two comps, one with the x2 555 and one with the x4 955 (both 3.2 GHz). Unlocked the 555 to B55 (works as a 955), and the two comps work just the same. It has some risks tho, not guaranteed that the other cores arent damaged.
Yes Black Edition AMD Phenom II x2's are unlockable provided that your Mother Board ( MB Bios ) supports it
also, the locked cores on a dual or triple core PC are locked for a reason by AMD..... that is because these locked cores did not past the Quality Control of AMD during testing at the factory......
I unlocked my x2 555 on an ASUS M4A87TD/USB3 board and found that it sometimes would work with all 4 ores if I dropped all 4 processors out put down by 15 to 20 % less than the rated 3.2 Ghz ....... and using just 3 cores I could get by around 10 % reduced output...... but running them at the full rated 3.2 Ghz it would BSOD or crash etc.......
also note that anyone using AMD dual or multi core CPU's will not be able to have the benefit of using the extra cores in Aces High..... if your PC is AMD dual or Quad core etc.... Aces High only utilizies ONE core only!!!
hopefuly someday HTC/Aces High will find a way for Aces High to utilize 2 cores on AMD cpus like it does with Intel Cpus.....
hope this helps
TC
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Also, just because Aces High only utilizes "1" core on AMD cpu's....... should not scare people away from using them
I have used AMD dual/multi core cpus for a long time and have had no problems with maxing out the game settings while being restricted to just a single core.....
hope this helps
TC
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it was my understanding and i believe skuzzy mentioned it several times that ah uses 2 cores.
semp
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one or two cores it doesnt matter if you have a multi core. i have a X6 and i notice no differnece when im on AH, playin music in the background and surfin the web. I imagine an X4 would be much the same.
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Masonz i have a i5 quad core and I am gonna be changing to a i7 six core as as soon as I can afford it but right now I am looking at changing my vid cards to something different. I will post what i get as soon as I get them.
LawnDart aka FeralPig
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one or two cores it doesnt matter if you have a multi core. i have a X6 and i notice no differnece when im on AH, playin music in the background and surfin the web. I imagine an X4 would be much the same.
mason you see no difference because you have a fast processor. i got 4 cores and can play ah with fraps on and i see sometimes fps down to 55, even in middle of furball with everything on and shadows at 4096. that's why if it was me upgrading I would get at least a 4 core, in the long run you will save money by not having to upgrade next year.
and like it was mention before the reason some processors have locked cores is because they didnt pass inspection for x2 number of cores. and sometimes they will not really work even if you unlock them. if you gonna go amd (I wont, but that's just me) spend the extra bucks on the 4 cores not that much more anyway. and if you cant afford them, instead of buying a slower cpu, perhaps wait a month or two and buy a better one. that's what I did, took me 2 years to get to the system i have now.
semp
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Aces High can and does use 2 cores..... AH has been doing this for a good long while now, but it only works for INTEL Dual or Multi Core cpu processors........ not AMD Dual or Multi Core cpu processors...... those of us with AMD multi core CPUs are handicapped to only having one core utilized when playing Aces High.... Aces High does not allow the AMD's to use more than just 1 core.......... it has always been this way
even though, AMD's being relagated to only being able to use 1 core in Aces High does not really keep a person from being able to play the game at max advanced graphical settings if the person has done their homework and built a system to handle what Aces High can throw at it......
If one does their research and picks the right components that will work well together, they can build an AMD based PC that will take everything Aces High can dish out, yet still save a good bit of money
edit: yes like guncrasher mentions, if one has a fast quad or six core AMD processor they prob want see much decrease in performance verses someone with a slower quad or six core AMD cpu
like this AMD Phenom II X6 1035T Thuban 2.6GHz : one might not be able to max everything out in AH but using this ---> AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban 3.3GHz, 3.7GHz Turbo , they could max everything out and not see any decrease in performance ( although all the other parts in their PC build would be important also, especially their PSU, Video Card and Memory.. etc oh and cooling of components ability )
hope this helps
<S>
TC
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AMD's are handicapped to using one core. For a while there was this spinning clipboard problem and reducing AMD CPU's to a single core eliminated it making game compatability much better for AMD users. Intel dual cores didn't have this issue and the game utilizes both cores.
Anything more than two cores might be nice if you're multi-tasking while playing because another application might use the open cores that the game isn't using. If you're building specifically for AH without a view to future upgrades and don't run multiple applications while gaming then more than two cores is a waste of money. If that's the case then you're better off buying a faster dual core than a slower multi core.
Oh. And besides the core usage advantage Intel has over AMD they are much more easily overclocked if you're into that sort of thing. Any Intel CPU can be OC'd 20% without effort and actually much more if you know what your doing. I've got my 2.66 Ghz E6750 running at 3.2 Ghz as a daily driver but have had it to almost 3.6 Ghz stable on air and still hovering just over 60C under full load.
Go suck on that AMD guys. :neener: jk. ;)
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Interesting... then a sandy bridge overclocked i3 is the cheapest way to run AH well.
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Interesting... then a sandy bridge overclocked i3 is the cheapest way to run AH well.
An I3 is actually a Celeron equivalent processor so cache sizes will be another determining factor but if the price range and cache sizes were equal but the I3 was dual core and the competitor was multi core but slower then yes. One additional consideration is power draw. Lower will keep components running cooler and may allow higher OCing. That's where the Wolfdales eclipsed the Conroes which is what I have but even the Conroes are OCing beasts.
As a general rule step to the highest cache size in your price range then focus on cores or speed. If your primary consideration is graphics or video editing then slower with more cores is the right fit. If your primary consideration is gaming then faster with two cores is a better fit. Multiple cores will generally run things like spreadsheets and virus scans faster as well but won't enhance gaming.
As to the OC aspect I've never understood buying an OC'd video card when you can get the base model and do it yourself except in terms of the warranty. OCing any component will generally void the warranty but the manufacturer's build in the ability for enthusiasts and within limits it won't harm the components to do so. The exception is RAM manufacturers who spec timings and voltages even though default settings are generally slower and lower respectively. Quality RAM manufacturers will generally allow a specific margin over spec without voiding the warranty.
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Oh. And besides the core usage advantage Intel has over AMD they are much more easily overclocked if you're into that sort of thing. Any Intel CPU can be OC'd 20% without effort and actually much more if you know what your doing. I've got my 2.66 Ghz E6750 running at 3.2 Ghz as a daily driver but have had it to almost 3.6 Ghz stable on air and still hovering just over 60C under full load.
Go suck on that AMD guys. :neener: jk. ;)
:lol considering the cost differential, my next build is going amd all the way. i've done nothing but intel for the last 11 years and considered the cost vs reliability worth it, but not now.
just keeping in mind that core speed, economy and obsolescence are prime factors, looking at dual cores (which is all most of us need):
AMD Phenom II X2 560 Black Edition Callisto 3.3GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Desktop Processor = $92
Intel Core i5-650 Clarkdale 3.2GHz 4MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 73W Dual-Core Desktop Processor = $175
i can buy 8gb of ddr3 1600 for the price difference and no overclocking needed out of the box.
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:lol considering the cost differential, my next build is going amd all the way. i've done nothing but intel for the last 11 years and considered the cost vs reliability worth it, but not now.
just keeping in mind that core speed, economy and obsolescence are prime factors, looking at dual cores (which is all most of us need):
AMD Phenom II X2 560 Black Edition Callisto 3.3GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Desktop Processor = $92
Intel Core i5-650 Clarkdale 3.2GHz 4MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 73W Dual-Core Desktop Processor = $175
i can buy 8gb of ddr3 1600 for the price difference and no overclocking needed out of the box.
I hope you're aware that the AMD processors are slower clock for clock than intels?
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I hope you're aware that the AMD processors are slower clock for clock than intels?
yes, but with the latest generations, it's negligible. anyone with experience knows that intels (especially the i series cpus) excel at high end multi-threading processes, but for single gpu high resolution gaming the amd performance is on par with intels. put the proper components together and you can get the perfomance you want, i can make an i7 perform like an old core2 with the wrong parts.
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yes, but with the latest generations, it's negligible. anyone with experience knows that intels (especially the i series cpus) excel at high end multi-threading processes, but for single gpu high resolution gaming the amd performance is on par with intels. put the proper components together and you can get the perfomance you want, i can make an i7 perform like an old core2 with the wrong parts.
you mean it's impossible to do it with amd?
semp
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my question... ive read MANY reviews where people say an i5 2500K is more then enough for any gaming rig. why in Gods name would you need an i7? let alone an i7 2600k? :headscratch:
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my question... ive read MANY reviews where people say an i5 2500K is more then enough for any gaming rig. why in Gods name would you need an i7? let alone an i7 2600k? :headscratch:
depends on what you are going to do and add some head room. my e8400 cpu was more than enough to play ah with 2048 shadows. but it was a little slow when using fraps while playing. with the 2500k i can run fraps while playing the game with 4096 shadows and see fps down to 55 in heavy furball. and it's a lot faster when making ah movies. had i really thought about it i shouldda gotten the 2600k, not because i need it, but because you never know. the 80 bucks i saved by getting the 2500k may cost me a little more in the future should I need something faster than the 2500k.
semp
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depends on what you are going to do and add some head room. my e8400 cpu was more than enough to play ah with 2048 shadows. but it was a little slow when using fraps while playing. with the 2500k i can run fraps while playing the game with 4096 shadows and see fps down to 55 in heavy furball. and it's a lot faster when making ah movies. had i really thought about it i shouldda gotten the 2600k, not because i need it, but because you never know. the 80 bucks i saved by getting the 2500k may cost me a little more in the future should I need something faster than the 2500k.
semp
just more a multitask friendly CPU in reality?
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you mean it's impossible to do it with amd?
semp
you're fishing ain't ya? :lol
since you're talking about your core i5 processor, tell us what else was changed on your system. surely you're not using the old mobo or graphics card you had with the dual core, and faster memory as well?
i hope you knew you could force fraps to run on a specific core and gain better performance by recording to a secondary drive that your game isn't running off of...
here's the thing, not everyone runs cpu hungry programs while gaming and an amd quad core cpu at 3+ghz has no problem with the basic multitasking of the average computer user, so why tell them they need to spend the money? especially when money is tight? not all of us are like ripley, we don't have money to flush on a computer that isn't intended to make money.
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you're fishing ain't ya? :lol
since you're talking about your core i5 processor, tell us what else was changed on your system. surely you're not using the old mobo or graphics card you had with the dual core, and faster memory as well?
i hope you knew you could force fraps to run on a specific core and gain better performance by recording to a secondary drive that your game isn't running off of...
here's the thing, not everyone runs cpu hungry programs while gaming and an amd quad core cpu at 3+ghz has no problem with the basic multitasking of the average computer user, so why tell them they need to spend the money? especially when money is tight? not all of us are like ripley, we don't have money to flush on a computer that isn't intended to make money.
changed the cpu/mobo/ram, well the ram only because i sold it as a combo with the cpu/mobo. graphics card is the same. total cost for me was 300 bucks, to upgrade from my old e8400 cpu/gigabyte mobo/4gigs ocz ram, to a 2500k/msi mobo/8 gigs gskill ripsaw ram. after I sold my old cpu/mobo/ram.
I hate wasting money on things that are not really needed. but if you must spend the money, then I believe in spending it right. now what is right is up to each one of us to decide. and the more info we have the better each one of us can make a decision based on what we want and our budget. we make purchases based on a lot of suggestions, but some of the suggestions I hear are more based on trying to justify what we got, be it the faster cpu intel has or some decent low budget amd cpu. but the more info each person has the better.
I see people say things like amd is just as good as intel but cheaper, then again i notice things like amd only uses 1 core while intel uses 2. which in my opinion is not the same thing, but then again let everybody make their own choices. but not based on biased or misleading info regarding amd or intel. i believe some people are really biased on these reviews and that is not good for the community.
i notice that amd users are like ch users, they always go with things like all others are crap, it will last longer, you will save money long term. which is not as accurate as it seems to be.
semp
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i agree Semp. im on my first build, new to the whole computer hardware/software thing, but i think its more preference and other deteremining factors as to what people use. I wouldnt mind switching to Intel just for the expierence and comparison, but i dont have the money or need to. will i ever? yes ill have the money, as far as the need? probably not. i have 6 cores right now, and though not the fatest CPU on the planet, its enough for me.
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Well I know you can build one for under 800 and have it run AH great... here is the proof
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,318472.0.html
May have to get a different video card but that is under 800 and it runs great.
LawnDart
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changed the cpu/mobo/ram, well the ram only because i sold it as a combo with the cpu/mobo. graphics card is the same. total cost for me was 300 bucks, to upgrade from my old e8400 cpu/gigabyte mobo/4gigs ocz ram, to a 2500k/msi mobo/8 gigs gskill ripsaw ram. after I sold my old cpu/mobo/ram.
considering how you went about it, you saved yourself a good deal of money. think about what you would have spent if you had started over completely. cpu, mobo, case, gpu, psu, ram, hdd, dvd, monitor, operating system...well over $800 easy, especially if you bought quality components.
I hate wasting money on things that are not really needed. but if you must spend the money, then I believe in spending it right. now what is right is up to each one of us to decide. and the more info we have the better each one of us can make a decision based on what we want and our budget. we make purchases based on a lot of suggestions, but some of the suggestions I hear are more based on trying to justify what we got, be it the faster cpu intel has or some decent low budget amd cpu. but the more info each person has the better.
I see people say things like amd is just as good as intel but cheaper, then again i notice things like amd only uses 1 core while intel uses 2. which in my opinion is not the same thing, but then again let everybody make their own choices. but not based on biased or misleading info regarding amd or intel. i believe some people are really biased on these reviews and that is not good for the community.
i notice that amd users are like ch users, they always go with things like all others are crap, it will last longer, you will save money long term. which is not as accurate as it seems to be.
semp
i think you misunderstand something, i for one am not saying amd is the only choice. i build mostly intel systems and that's all i own at the moment. before the am2 & am3 socket amd cpu's came out i wouldn't waste my money or time on amd, not just because i knew a 2.0ghz amd was only equal to an intel 1.6ghz but also because the chipsets being used on the mobos were mostly unreliable crap. that has changed with the latest generation of amd products.
amd doesn't just use one core, you misinterpreted that. it's only in ah that a single core gets used, for other purposes all available cores will get used. most home users aren't using programs like matlab, sas, spss or oracle. they surf the web, play games, listen to music and money is tight. just looking at quad core cpu's with approximately equal core power, intel i5 2.8ghz $184 vs amd phenom2 x4 black edition 3.2ghz $119. for $65 difference the person could buy more ram, or faster hard drive, or higher quality power supply, or better motherboard, or better video card.
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Well I know you can build one for under 800 and have it run AH great... here is the proof
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,318472.0.html
May have to get a different video card but that is under 800 and it runs great.
LawnDart
you cheated... :D
replace that power supply while you're at it, may as well be running a belkin.
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Hows this look? Its more than I wanted to spend but I think it will do what i need it to and then some for several years to come. thoughts opinions?
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Antec Nine Hundred Black Computer Case With Side Panel Window
Item #:N82E16811129021
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor
Item #:N82E16819115072
XFX HD-695X-CDDC Radeon HD 6950 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
XFX Radeon HD 6950 HD-695X-CDDC Video Card with Eyefinity
Item #:N82E16814150548
Thermaltake Black Widow W0319RU 850W ATX 12V v2.3, EPS 12V v2.91 CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Thermaltake Black Widow W0319RU 850W Power Supply
Item #:N82E16817153106
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" SATA 6.0Gb/s Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #:N82E16822148697
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500) Desktop Memory Model F3-8500CL7Q-16GBRL
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500) Desktop Memory
Item #:N82E16820231309
MSI P67A-GD65 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
MSI P67A-GD65 (B3) ATX Intel Motherboard
Item #:N82E16813130574
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit
and a cheap disc drive which i forgot to add.
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back in April/May of this year, I built me a New AMD platform system.... because I had been down since Oct of last year on my existing system.... ( which was AMD and had been working fine until I messed it up during cleaning it out.... it was an AMD Athlon II 6400+ 3.2 Ghz X2 with 4 gigs DDR2 800 mhz Ram on windows 7 Ult 64 bit, with an ASUS 3870 512meg DDR4 VC and an X-Fi Xtreme fatality pro SC etc.... Antec 900 case PC P&C silencer 750 watt crossfire edition PSU )
check this link for my NEW PC - AMD specs from this past April/May:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,314473.0.html
that PC performs top notch in aces high, with all shadows turned on and hires texture package set to 2048 in the login screen video settings, and the shadows textures set to 4096 in the Advanced graphics
it keeps that ASUS 27" Wide Screen monitor pegged at 60 fps at 1920 x 1080 res on DVI ( I do not use HDMI while gaming )
recently I got to talking with Drano, and Drano was fixing to build himself a new Intel i7-2600K PC with an SSD......... I decided I would join him and built damn near an indentical system to his except he went MSI on his 6950 2 gig videocard while I went with an XFX HD 6950 2 gig........... Drano went with a Crucial 300 128 Gig SSD SATA III/6.0 Gb/s HD..... while I went with a Crucial m4 128 gig SSD SATA III/6.0 Gb/s
I am running windows 7 Ult 64 bit on the following build..... my first "personal Intel Cpu build" since 2001, and without the SSD it is not any better than the AMD system I built back in April/May ( exceept it cost several $100 dollars more not counting the SSD )
*Thermaltake Level 10 GT (VN10001W2N) Black SECC / Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case
*Thermaltake Black Widow W0319RU 850W ATX 12V v2.3, EPS 12V v2.91 CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
*ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe LGA 1155 Intel Z68 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
*Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K
*CORSAIR CAFA70 120mm Dual-Fan CPU Cooler
*Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive
*HITACHI Deskstar 7K3000 HDS723015BLA642 (0F12114) 1.5TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
*CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CML16GX3M4A1600C9B
*XFX HD-695X-CDDC Radeon HD 6950 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16
*ASUS Xonar DS 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Audio Card
*ASUS Black 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 12X DVD-RAM 8X BD-ROM 8MB Cache SATA Blu-ray Burner BW-12B1LT LightScribe Support
*LG Black 10X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA Internal Blu-ray Drive DVD-DL Rewriter LightScribe Support - Model UH12LS28
*Koutech IO-RCM621 All-in-one USB 2.0 3.5" USB 2.0 Front Panel Multi-format Card Reader with USB 2.0 Port
*Hanns-G HZ281HPB 27.5'' 3ms Full HD 1080P HDMI WideScreen LCD Monitor Built-in Speakers
*TekNmotion TM-YB100A 3.5mm Connector Circumaural Black Yapster Universal Gaming Headset <------ AWESOME lil $12.99 set of gaming headphones with Mic SERIOUSLY
*GIGABYTE GK-K6800 Glossy Black USB Wired Standard Professional Multimedia Keyboard
*GIGABYTE GM-M6800 Noble Black 5+1 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB Wired Optical Dual Lens Gaming Mouse <--- This is an awesome Cheap wired USB Optical Laser mouse SERIOUSLY
*Logitech S-220 17 Watts 2.1 Multimedia Speaker System - OEM <----don't even bother ....... I gave this junk to my Mom
anyways...... that AMD 975 is running AH on 1 core while my new Intel i7-2600K is utilizing 2 cores.......... regardless of all the benchmarks and faster clock / slower clock BS........ I do not see what all the hype is about Intel blowing AMD away
edit: I have not just judged Aces High between the 2 PC builds.... burning BluRay discs, running my 64 bit AutoCad, converting movies ( using all 4 processor cores on each cpu ) etc....... I do not see where all the hype is coming from..... there! that looks better ;)
YMMV
TC
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Hows this look? Its more than I wanted to spend but I think it will do what i need it to and then some for several years to come. thoughts opinions?
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Antec Nine Hundred Black Computer Case With Side Panel Window
Item #:N82E16811129021
Thermaltake Black Widow W0319RU 850W ATX 12V v2.3, EPS 12V v2.91 CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Thermaltake Black Widow W0319RU 850W Power Supply
Item #:N82E16817153106
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" SATA 6.0Gb/s Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #:N82E16822148697
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500) Desktop Memory Model F3-8500CL7Q-16GBRL
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500) Desktop Memory
Item #:N82E16820231309
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit
and a cheap disc drive which i forgot to add.
although the Antec 900 case is a very good one........ and has awesome airflow capabilities ( I have one myself )..... you will find that it is a pain in the rear to clean the fans, and it is very tight and hard to hide/route wiring
as for the 8500 RAM........ you should go with a minimal 1333 Mhz DDR3
as for the Seagate HD...... everyone has their preferences..... but I would recommend getting a Hitachi or a WD Black model over the Seagate
your PSU is an awesome choice..... I have the same PSU in both my Intel and AMD PC builds now........ and I dumped the PC Power & Cooling PSU's...... ( well, they will be put on a shelf once I get my replacements back from PC P&C/OCZ group )
Good Luck with yor Build
TC
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Hows this look? Its more than I wanted to spend but I think it will do what i need it to and then some for several years to come. thoughts opinions?
1
Antec Nine Hundred Black Computer Case With Side Panel Window
Item #:N82E16811129021
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor
Item #:N82E16819115072
XFX HD-695X-CDDC Radeon HD 6950 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
XFX Radeon HD 6950 HD-695X-CDDC Video Card with Eyefinity
Item #:N82E16814150548
Thermaltake Black Widow W0319RU 850W ATX 12V v2.3, EPS 12V v2.91 CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Thermaltake Black Widow W0319RU 850W Power Supply
Item #:N82E16817153106
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" SATA 6.0Gb/s Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #:N82E16822148697
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500) Desktop Memory Model F3-8500CL7Q-16GBRL
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500) Desktop Memory
Item #:N82E16820231309
MSI P67A-GD65 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
MSI P67A-GD65 (B3) ATX Intel Motherboard
Item #:N82E16813130574
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit
and a cheap disc drive which i forgot to add.
the only thing i have a question about is that mobo. barely better than zotac, jetway or roxconn...been burned a few times on msi. did you notice there is no indication what speed the 2 pcie 2.0 x16 slots will run if you use them both? if you're going to get a mobo with more than 1 pcie 2.0 x16 slot, make sure you know what specs there are if both slots are populated. unfortunately going with an 1155 or 1156 socket has limitations on what features and chipsets you can get with the mobo.
just based on some quick studying, i'd recommend one of these 2 mobos (better chipsets, better specs):
ASUS P8Z68-V LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131729 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131729)
GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD4-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128494 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128494)
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the only thing i have a question about is that mobo. barely better than zotac, jetway or roxconn...been burned a few times on msi. did you notice there is no indication what speed the 2 pcie 2.0 x16 slots will run if you use them both? if you're going to get a mobo with more than 1 pcie 2.0 x16 slot, make sure you know what specs there are if both slots are populated. unfortunately going with an 1155 or 1156 socket has limitations on what features and chipsets you can get with the mobo.
just based on some quick studying, i'd recommend one of these 2 mobos (better chipsets, better specs):
ASUS P8Z68-V LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131729 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131729)
GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD4-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128494 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128494)
I have that same mobo (MSI P67A-GD65 (B3)) with my 2500k. it is great. awesome built in sound too, easy to overclock and it's a bargain for the price. you dont know how to overclock?, then press the oc genie button and it will automatically oc to 4.2 in one second. thing I like best about it is that it has a bios reset button on the back, so if any problems you can reset your bios without opening your case.
this is the ram i have it works great too:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231429 16gigs 4x4
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428 8gigs 2x4
I also would not get the 900 case, there's some other cases that are also mid size but are bigger. I have the tempest and it's roomier inside and it believe it has more fans for better cooling. good luck with your build.
semp
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Ok I think I finalized my new system, Please tell me what you think. I have changed the case as well as the memory as suggested. I will probably order this weekend. Thanks for all of the help you guys have provided thus far. :cheers: :salute
SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-222AL LightScribe Support - OEM
Rosewill BLACKHAWK Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, come with Five Fans, window side panel, top HDD dock
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
XFX HD-695X-CDDC Radeon HD 6950 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
Thermaltake Black Widow W0319RU 850W ATX 12V v2.3, EPS 12V v2.91 CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-8GBSR
ASRock P67 EXTREME4 GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7
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Ok I think I finalized my new system, Please tell me what you think. I have changed the case as well as the memory as suggested. I will probably order this weekend. Thanks for all of the help you guys have provided thus far. :cheers: :salute
ASRock P67 EXTREME4 GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
looks like a nice build, SilverZ!
if you can swing you might want to step up to the Z68 series of that ASRock MB..... it is $35 more reasons is it is newer technology chip and it also has a better Onboard Lan Port
also, if you are a student and/or have a student email address ( example studentname@schoolname.edu ) you can get Windows 7 Professional 32 or 64 bit, your choice.... through the Microsoft Store for $29.99 until the special runs
out ( it does not list no expiration date )...... for an additional $14.95 they will mail you a DVD for backup purposes ( this is Windows 7 update version, but is the whole complete install if you didn't know )
this might save you a few dollars
good luck on your build
TC
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Thanks TC.
I ordered it all last night so hopefully ill be up and running on it by next weekend. I changed the memory again to a cheaper 8gb (cas9 instead of cas7) and added a 64g crucial ssd. I stayed with the cheaper p67 board as well because i just dont see myself utilizing the onboard video card of the z68 or the ssd cache. This will be my first time building a pc and I cant wait. looks like a lot of fun and frustration. thanks for all your help :salute
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silver, make sure you have the disk that comes with the mobo handy when you go to install windows...or find the latest ones from the mobo mfg support...i just spent hours fighting a windows 7 install because of the sata 6 raid controllers on the mobo i bought...didn't realize even win7 pro sp1 needed the controller driver when i have raid disabled in the bios :eek:
had me thinking my iso image was bad... :headscratch:
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will do. thanks!
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Its alive! :aok :rock
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excellent!!!
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pics! :aok