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Title: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: Vinkman on August 10, 2011, 10:52:12 AM
How about if you capture the home port of a CV, it gives up the location of that CV?

You'd still have to go to great lengths to fly across the map and sink it, so not an easy 'poof' return.
It would add some extra incentive to defend the port when the CV was at sea, even when it wasn't being hidden, to keep it's loaction secret when it's in route to a fight.
It would still allow for strategic 'moving' of the CV to keep it fom falling into enemy hands, just not 'hiding'.
would end the need for 'spying' to find it, because capturing the port would locate it.
Locating could be exact, shoing the CV icon in red, or soft, where a it's number is displayed in the corner of the sector box it's located in.

Fun for all?  :salute
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: PFactorDave on August 10, 2011, 11:00:33 AM
I like it.  +1
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: gyrene81 on August 10, 2011, 11:01:21 AM
nice idea vinkman.   :aok
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: Wiley on August 10, 2011, 11:02:09 AM
Good, yes.  +1

Wiley.
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: RTHolmes on August 10, 2011, 11:05:03 AM
it shouldnt track the CV in realtime, just show its location at the time that the port was captured (ie. the troops have seized intel when they captured the maproom).

otherwise an excellent suggestion :aok
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: B-17 on August 10, 2011, 11:46:36 AM
I like this idea very much. It adds more realism to the game, but doesn't take away from the 'gamey-ness'
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: Soulyss on August 10, 2011, 11:49:59 AM
I like it. :)
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: B-17 on August 10, 2011, 11:52:13 AM
I'm curious... do you think it would take a huge amount of effort to put this into effect?
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: Becinhu on August 10, 2011, 12:58:59 PM
I would look forward to the  :cry from the NOE horde skuads.
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: alpini13 on August 10, 2011, 01:30:24 PM
no,makes no sense at all. if you capture someplace,why would you magically know where the cv or anything related to it was????
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: Krupinski on August 10, 2011, 01:34:02 PM
no,makes no sense at all. if you capture someplace,why would you magically know where the cv or anything related to it was????

it shouldnt track the CV in realtime, just show its location at the time that the port was captured (ie. the troops have seized intel when they captured the maproom).

otherwise an excellent suggestion :aok

+1 I lyke.
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: PFactorDave on August 10, 2011, 01:38:42 PM
no,makes no sense at all. if you capture someplace,why would you magically know where the cv or anything related to it was????

Well if the Japanese had landed troops at Pearl Harbor and captured the base, don't you think they would have recovered enough intel to have a pretty good idea of where the American carriers were?  Maps?  Interrogations of captured people?

I don't think the premise is unreasonable.
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: Tank-Ace on August 10, 2011, 01:48:49 PM
no,makes no sense at all. if you capture someplace,why would you magically know where the cv or anything related to it was????

The captured CV has been making regular reports to its home port. Most recent transmition was an urgent request for more ammunition and beer, as supplys were running dangerously low. Given are the coordinates to direct the supply ship which left just mere minutes before.


Another thing that would be good to have is a constant supply convoy running between the CV and the port. That would let you follow the convoys to find the CV.
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: gyrene81 on August 10, 2011, 01:49:40 PM
no,makes no sense at all. if you capture someplace,why would you magically know where the cv or anything related to it was????
i sense that you're serious in some way. so there wouldn't be any sort of intel on that base anywhere after it was captured? there was a lot of paper used in the military then, no satellites, wide area networks, internet, etc...
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: Wiley on August 10, 2011, 02:34:33 PM
Considering it for a bit, I think I'm also on board with it just showing the location when the port is captured, maybe a heading.  That way, the longer you wait, the less accurate the location will be.  It would be incentive to move on it quickly, and a penalty for those who don't bother to act on the info for a while.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: Beefcake on August 10, 2011, 03:08:41 PM
no,makes no sense at all. if you capture someplace,why would you magically know where the cv or anything related to it was????

What amazes me is you think capturing a base and gaining intel doesn't make sense, yet you have a clipboard in your plane that gives up to the minute radar updates on all aircraft on the map.
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: kvuo75 on August 10, 2011, 03:15:43 PM
how about:

once cv is spotted, it shows up on the map.. as long as someone's got eyes on it, it updates continuously, just like friendly cv's do. if nobody sees it, it just shows it's last position and perhaps a course arrow showing the last known direction. after some time with nobody spotting it, it could disappear from map again.


this could give a use for planes like pby's and such in the future also.
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: HawkerMKII on August 10, 2011, 04:41:55 PM
Better yet....you sink bad guy cv's its a reef till map is won or reset and map rotates back......that way no more hiding cv's or 20000000 threads about hiding cv's :salute
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: icepac on August 10, 2011, 04:56:53 PM
I don't think we need the cv to suddenly announce it's presence while it is within the arena proper.

If it's outside the arena boundaries, it should show up for all to see.
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: Tank-Ace on August 10, 2011, 05:54:27 PM
Ice, 2hr flights are unreasonable in a game specificly tailored to quick, close-range engagments. If HTC had wanted us to fly up into a corner of the map with no bases or strat targets, they would inform us of their desires.


and I like Hawker's idea. It would aleviate some of the problem spots like P86. That said, auto-puffy needs to be turned up to the point where it is a consideration for bombers. We could also do with adding more of the guns that were mounted on our ships.
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: skorpion on August 10, 2011, 06:22:35 PM
+1
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: grizz441 on August 10, 2011, 08:02:01 PM
no,makes no sense at all. if you capture someplace,why would you magically know where the cv or anything related to it was????

 :lol Wow.

+1 For this Good Idea

Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: EagleDNY on August 10, 2011, 08:10:51 PM
no,makes no sense at all. if you capture someplace,why would you magically know where the cv or anything related to it was????

Perhaps because you just captured the CV's HQ and land communications center with all their documents?  Intel would have a field day - all you need to know is which frequency the CV radio guys are transmitting on this week and you could DF the location as soon as they transmit.
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: des506 on August 10, 2011, 10:10:36 PM
no,makes no sense at all. if you capture someplace,why would you magically know where the cv or anything related to it was????

well it prevents idiots dragging cv and hiding it 8-9 sectors away and not using it...+1,000,000,000
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: icepac on August 10, 2011, 10:42:36 PM
The cv hidden the other day was not on the map.

I searched all the grids.

Yes, there is someone who will invest the time to find CV's.

If it's still within arena boundaries, it will be easily found.
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: DREDIOCK on August 11, 2011, 06:48:53 AM
I like the original idea. Capture the port and you know where the CV is If nothing else what sector its in
Use it or loose it baby
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: hammer on August 11, 2011, 08:06:23 AM
no,makes no sense at all. if you capture someplace,why would you magically know where the cv or anything related to it was????

Because when you captured the port, you captured a copy of the operations orders which were issued to the task group.  ;)

Regards,

Hammer
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: Max6 on August 11, 2011, 02:57:37 PM
How about if you capture the home port of a CV, it gives up the location of that CV?

You'd still have to go to great lengths to fly across the map and sink it, so not an easy 'poof' return.
It would add some extra incentive to defend the port when the CV was at sea, even when it wasn't being hidden, to keep it's loaction secret when it's in route to a fight.
It would still allow for strategic 'moving' of the CV to keep it fom falling into enemy hands, just not 'hiding'.
would end the need for 'spying' to find it, because capturing the port would locate it.
Locating could be exact, shoing the CV icon in red, or soft, where a it's number is displayed in the corner of the sector box it's located in.

Fun for all?  :salute

This is the best CV idea I have read.
 Plus, you can see where the fleet it's hidden. Wtg :salute

What about smokescreen to the CV too.... The person that have the control over the CV, can use the smokescreen to camouflage it better when the enemy are hunting the CV down.
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: MaSonZ on August 11, 2011, 03:27:14 PM
i like it, not real time, but just the last known location before being captured and the bearing of the CV. something along the lines of "Field 1 has been captured by the rooks." "intel reports CV location 7.1.2 bearing 360".
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: B-17 on August 11, 2011, 03:30:59 PM
What about smokescreen to the CV too.... The person that have the control over the CV, can use the smokescreen to camouflage it better when the enemy are hunting the CV down.

What's the point of that? There's a generic CV layout, so you would be able to guess fairly accurately. Not to mention that the gunners couldn't see, either.
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: MaSonZ on August 11, 2011, 03:48:59 PM
What's the point of that? There's a generic CV layout, so you would be able to guess fairly accurately. Not to mention that the gunners couldn't see, either.
tactic used in the real world... good thought, but its a two fold handicap. -1 to the smokescreen.
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: Raptor05121 on August 11, 2011, 03:51:32 PM
lets strap a nuke to the bow of the CV and kamikaze it into the enemy port and blow it up.
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: MarineUS on August 11, 2011, 05:17:58 PM
it shouldnt track the CV in realtime, just show its location at the time that the port was captured (ie. the troops have seized intel when they captured the maproom).

otherwise an excellent suggestion :aok
^This.

Because what IF the enemy is actually using it for offensive purposes? Becomes pointless then. Might as well hide it and play defense since they'll know where you're going.
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: Tank-Ace on August 11, 2011, 06:08:55 PM
Another thread ruined by stupidity.


If you'd bothered to read the rest of the thread, we've kinda already dropped that idea. And since you've argued on about CV hiding being fine because its sorta-realistic (or atleast promotes realistic sorties), I'm going to argue for this idea (even though I personally don't favor it) using the same argument.


Code books were captured telling how to decipher the messages sent by the task group for the next few weeks. Even though the base is captured, the task group still has to stay in concact with the rest of the fleet, and with the Navy Department.

This lets us see exactly where that boat is for the next little while. Its realistic, so deal with it.
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: MarineUS on August 11, 2011, 07:19:05 PM
I think someone has anger issues. There are people you can talk to for that.  Didn't know I wasn't allowed to voice what I liked in the thread.

 :aok
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: B-17 on August 11, 2011, 07:40:20 PM
Can anyone really do that anymore without being looked at as "crazy"?
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: MarineUS on August 11, 2011, 07:49:10 PM
Not on the bbs - too many people with e-peen issues.
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: surfinn on August 12, 2011, 10:34:08 AM
+1 to the identifying what sector the CV is in at the time of capture but not its exact location.
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: des506 on August 12, 2011, 11:01:13 AM
+1 to the identifying what sector the CV is in at the time of capture but not its exact location.

+ 1  :aok
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: Rob52240 on August 12, 2011, 11:47:49 AM
Not a bad idea.  Not sure if I like it but it's not a bad idea at all.
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: Max6 on August 13, 2011, 02:46:25 AM
What's the point of that? There's a generic CV layout, so you would be able to guess fairly accurately. Not to mention that the gunners couldn't see, either.
They had it in real.
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: Max6 on August 13, 2011, 02:53:20 AM
tactic used in the real world... good thought, but its a two fold handicap. -1 to the smokescreen.
Yes thats true. But in many cases, you might be alone to try to defend the CV. Why not have the ability to use smoke.
And you can turn it of and off. You can save the CV from the enemy`s CV and SB. 
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: Raptor05121 on August 13, 2011, 07:55:48 AM
Can anyone really do that anymore without being looked at as "crazy"?

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: B-17 on August 13, 2011, 01:57:29 PM
:headscratch: :rolleyes: That was interesting...
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: Shane on August 13, 2011, 02:43:43 PM
:headscratch: :rolleyes: That was interesting...

I'll agree with you in *this* incidence.   :aok

 :headscratch:
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: Max6 on August 14, 2011, 03:15:06 AM
Yes thats true. But in many cases, you might be alone to try to defend the CV. Why not have the ability to use smoke.
And you can turn it of and off. You can save the CV from the enemy`s CV and SB. 
i mean ON and off.....
Title: Re: Capturing a Port locates it's CV
Post by: Volron on August 14, 2011, 08:25:07 PM
+1 to the idea.  As some mentioned, at the very least it should put a little "CV" pin in the sector it was in at the time of port capture.  This cv pin will disappear after XX minutes at which point, you'll have to hunt it down the good ole fashioned way... :joystick: :noid