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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: guncrasher on August 18, 2011, 12:49:29 AM
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found this on yahoo about celebrities who hardly leave a tip.
http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish/201108/tiger-woods-regains-no-1-ranking-tightwad-tippers?page=1#sT
which brings up to the point I always argue with my girlfriend. I will leave a 15% tip for good service, more than 20% if it's great service, but if I get crappy service I leave nothing. and when I say crappy i dont mean when the waitress/waiter is busy with lots of customers. my gf believe we should always leave a tip.
what do you guys do? please separate the service from the food, if the food is bad, I'll send it back and complain to the manager, but if the waiter/waitress was nice I'll leave the tip.
semp
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Bad attitude/unfriendly = no tip.
Getting tipped isn't part of the job, its a tip, intended to be left for good service IMO.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-qV9wVGb38
Watch and learn...
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Completely relative to the service provided. I have no problem leaving little or no tip and am willing to leave a 20-25% tip if I think they deserve it. Having working in food service (not as a waiter though) and retail, sometimes people deserve a tip for just managing to crack a smile and say "hi" after 8 hours of PITA customers who feel the world revolves around them.
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I will leave a 15% tip for good service, more than 20% if it's great service, but if I get crappy service I leave nothing. and when I say crappy i dont mean when the waitress/waiter is busy with lots of customers. my gf believe we should always leave a tip.
Leaving no tip sends no message about the service. The waitress just thinks you're a tightwad. Leave a token tip of 1 or 2%. That sends a clear message that you thought the service was bad. In a restaurant that pools or reports tips it's embarassing. The management and other waitstaff will make sure it gets fixed or the slacker is outa there.
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found this on yahoo about celebrities who hardly leave a tip.
http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish/201108/tiger-woods-regains-no-1-ranking-tightwad-tippers?page=1#sT
which brings up to the point I always argue with my girlfriend. I will leave a 15% tip for good service, more than 20% if it's great service, but if I get crappy service I leave nothing. and when I say crappy i dont mean when the waitress/waiter is busy with lots of customers. my gf believe we should always leave a tip.
what do you guys do? please separate the service from the food, if the food is bad, I'll send it back and complain to the manager, but if the waiter/waitress was nice I'll leave the tip.
semp
i don't go by any percentage. i go by the service rendered. you treat me and mind well, then i tip like no one you've ever dealt with. treat us poorly, and you'll be lucky to get a penny from me.
it's not meant to be mean.....but tips aren't mandatory. they are a show of appreciation for good service.
what pisses me off, is places that make you pool your tips with the rest of the tipped staff, then ya all divy it up. uh unh. that don't cut it. that's like a union....the crappy guy will get the same as the good guy. when i tip YOU, i expect that tip to go in YOUR pocket.
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Leaving no tip sends no message about the service. The waitress just thinks you're a tightwad. Leave a token tip of 1 or 2%. That sends a clear message that you thought the service was bad. In a restaurant that pools or reports tips it's embarassing. The management and other waitstaff will make sure it gets fixed or the slacker is outa there.
^ this
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I tip to much, I admit it. I guess its more an empathy thing, the exception being a bad attitude.
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I tip very big when I am a regular.
I still tip over 35 to 80% elsewhere if the service is good but default to 15% when the service is bad.
They get nothing if they are rude.
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I honestly only tip when the waiter does provide a service above and beyond what is expected of their job. If the waiter is just rude I simply do not return to the restaurant and e-mail the manager the day after.
Today it seems they expect a tip for merely taking your order,bringing you food and asking if you want refills every 30 minutes. I mean, really? Thats what you were hired to do!
Two weeks ago I went to a sushi place that had opened recently with a friend of mine who had very limited knowledge of sushi. To him, sushi was california roll that you can buy in supermarkets (awful!).
The waitress was awesome. Seeing my friend was confused and undecided as to what he should get she went up to the sushi chef, talked to him, and returned with a small plate with 1 piece of 5 different sushi rolls for him to TRY OUT.
Let me tell you that girl got herself a big tip and the chef got his too. When we got home we emailed the manager praising her and the chef for the deed. That is excellent service!
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15% for average
20+ for good
1 to 2% for bad
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I start at 20% on the actual food and beverage (not tax) since it's easy math. I've left a penny when someone was a real PITA (why would a server lie about something that isn't even her fault I'll never know) and I've left a C note as a tip on as little as a $200 tab.
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For those that leave no tip when the service is bad or average, remember that the server is most likely making $2.13 an hour. Leaving a small tip (5%) with a note on the signed receipt is more likely to get management's attention than no tip.
Many golf clubs have instituted a no tipping policy. Members are accessed a gratuity fee at the end of the year and this money is divided up amongst the staff. This was done because members complained about constantly having to get their wallet out and tip various people (valet, locker room, server, bag boy, caddie, etc). There has been some pushback against this policy because as you can imagine the level of service has declined. Plus, the mega-rich members hate it because they are now treated like every other member because they can not express their self-importance by tipping.
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If the girl hot, i leave a good tip. If it's a guy he gets 4 dollars... But if it's a dbag, he nothing :devil
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Most of the places I eat at are local here and there's a pretty good chance I'll be there again, which brings me to a personal policy of mine "always be nice to people who handle your food".
So I tend to tip fairly well. :)
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%5 if the service is bad.
%10-15 if service is in the middle area.
%20+ if the service is very good.
I always leave a tip because sometimes the bad service is not the fault of the server.
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if the service is real bad and the food sucks...penny in water glass.
if the service is bad and the food is ok...$1
if the service is mediocre, $2
if the service is good, 20%
if the service is outstanding and the waitress is hot 50% :devil
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one of the simplest things, that almost guarantees a very excellent tip from me.......
i drink a LOT of soda when i eat a meal. i know it's not good for me, but oh well.
they never bring a pitcher......just a glass at a time. i generally ask for "a swimming pool full of coke". there's a place right around the corner from my house....it's called nifty fifties. pipz....that's reasonably close to you i think..right on blackwood clementon road near laurel road.
it's not anything high class, but rather it's styled(as the name would imply) after a 50's style restaurant....they play old music, etc. their food isn't excellent, but in my opinion, it is very good.
well....when i go there........i notice that when my glass is nearly empty, suddenly another mysteriously appears. it keeps happening that way. very simple thing. but that very simple thing, says to me, that this person cares about their job, and is doing whatever it takes to make/keep their customers happy. that simple little thing ALWAYS garners tips well beyond what they should be for the prices that that place charges.
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Most of the places I eat at are local here and there's a pretty good chance I'll be there again, which brings me to a personal policy of mine "always be nice to people who handle your food".
So I tend to tip fairly well. :)
QFT
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Leaving no tip sends no message about the service. The waitress just thinks you're a tightwad. Leave a token tip of 1 or 2%. That sends a clear message that you thought the service was bad. In a restaurant that pools or reports tips it's embarassing. The management and other waitstaff will make sure it gets fixed or the slacker is outa there.
QFT!
I was raised in the resturant business and back when the wages were a buck an hour the waitresses made 8 dollars a shift.My father used to say to the girls if your not making 20 dollars in tips a day then I dont want you! and you know most the girls made that and more,on weekends even I used to make 8 to 10 bucks in tips pumping gas!
People working in the service industy work hard and make minimum wages so tips are important to them but if the service isnt very good a small token speaks volumes more than no tip at all.
:salute
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When I calculate tip I usually figure the 10% amount then round up to the next dollar for average service. I use this formula for the sake of keeping the math easy. (example $25 bill would be $3). My wife always tells me I don't leave enough.
For real crappy service it will be nothing and I don't feel bad one bit. I see where many of you are coming from with the "they don't learn anything" but really a tip is a token of my appreciation for good service not a life lesson. If they haven't learned by that time then they probably won't anyway.
For excellent service or even if it's not quite excellent but it seems like the place is extremely busy I will increase that amount accordingly.
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I don't go in anywhere that I'm not a regular at. I always leave a 20% tip. If I dont have the change, I'll ask for it.
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I don't go in anywhere that I'm not a regular at.
You will live a sad boring life.
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You will live a sad boring life.
I should say - During the summer. I try to avoid all the touristy places.
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I honestly only tip when the waiter does provide a service above and beyond what is expected of their job. If the waiter is just rude I simply do not return to the restaurant and e-mail the manager the day after.
Today it seems they expect a tip for merely taking your order,bringing you food and asking if you want refills every 30 minutes. I mean, really? Thats what you were hired to do!
Two weeks ago I went to a sushi place that had opened recently with a friend of mine who had very limited knowledge of sushi. To him, sushi was california roll that you can buy in supermarkets (awful!).
The waitress was awesome. Seeing my friend was confused and undecided as to what he should get she went up to the sushi chef, talked to him, and returned with a small plate with 1 piece of 5 different sushi rolls for him to TRY OUT.
Let me tell you that girl got herself a big tip and the chef got his too. When we got home we emailed the manager praising her and the chef for the deed. That is excellent service!
How did you find it over here :D - people generally freak if you tip.
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I average a 15% tip. If the service is terrible the only thing I leave is a written "tip-of-the-day" on the receipt about how the waiter could have earned a monetary tip.
I do get a good laugh when I don't leave a tip at those places where you pay at the register and the cashier gives you the stink eye for not tipping. I actually had one tell me after seeing I wasn't going to leave a tip "we encourage tipping here sir." I suggested that if they had encouraged a better work ethic in the wait staff, there wouldn't be a need to remind customers to tip at the register.
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I tip well, 20% at least. In a big group when we've gotten good service I like to leave an outrageous tip sometimes and make the person's day. Easy enough to do anyway if you've got enough like-minded people with you, and most of my friends are big tippers.
But then I've been on the other side of it a lot in my life - bartending, pizza delivery, catering and so forth, so I know what a drag dealing with the general public can be sometimes, and I have no desire to be part of the problem.
If there is bad service it's something that can be fixed usually by pointing it out and asking if there's a problem somewhere, or even by a pre-emptive tip if you sense there might be trouble. If you're in a bar or at a wedding it's a good idea to ask your bartender how long they're going to on for, letting them know you want to be sure to tip them before they go. Pretty much ensures you'll be getting premium service.
And what the hell anyway, life is too short to fight with waitstaff. You're out to have a good time, and in general the establishment you're in wants you to have a good time.
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How did you find it over here :D - people generally freak if you tip.
My first week in Auckland I learned the hard way. The waitress kept insisting I paid too much and I was trying to explain to her the extra was for her to keep. Her initial horrified face is forever engraved in my brain hahaha. She was very nice and explained the tipping thing to me.
I almost tipped her for that too :devil
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Leaving no tip sends no message about the service. The waitress just thinks you're a tightwad. Leave a token tip of 1 or 2%. That sends a clear message that you thought the service was bad. In a restaurant that pools or reports tips it's embarassing. The management and other waitstaff will make sure it gets fixed or the slacker is outa there.
+1
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I've worked food service...if they bring me my food with no frills....15%....if they're really good and made my day/meal extra enjoyable 20%+++. If they're mean/unattentive I eat my food, leave a 10% tip and give them a few words. It's only right.
Giving no tip, just gives them a legitimate reason to explain why you were a bad customer.
I worked delivery as well, which means you're making a conscious effort using your gas and time to take someone their damn food....when they didn't tip I literally wanted to kill them. This is why delivery charges exist, but sadly half the time those don't even go to the driver.
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The last time I had ordered a pizza (no sausage!) it came to around $13 so I paid with a $20. When the driver asked if I wanted my change back , that PO'd me right off which I said yes and didnt leave a penny.
Ever since then I will get it myself. That just burned me the wrong way so bad that day
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I usually tip around $5 plus whatever the rest of my group leaves. There was once when a group of us went to the local restaurant and had like a $85 bill and left the waitress a little over $60 plus a couple bracelets for a tip lol.
But I work in the food business, granted I work at a fast food place, so I know what it's like to deal with the general public. Anytime I go out and eat I try to be as nice and courteous to the employees at the place unless of course they're rude to me.
I think everyone shold have to work in some kind of food place at least once in their life and I think it would stop allot of the rude customers you get in food places.
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It is always at best to be handling situations such as this with class. It is a public representation of yourself as well.
Good Service 15%
Great Service 20% or more and always cash in hand while shaking hands at the end of the meal. Always.
Bad Service 10% and have the class to tell the server why. There are some things beyond their personal control. If you do not communicate directly the reason for your tip it is you who have erred. Take horrible service to a manager, not the server. Tip your 10% and seek the manager out to explain in detail what has been wrong. If you do not do this you help no one to improve or advance.
Leaving nothing means you have no class. Servers and hosts remember these details.
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the only problem with trying to tell them why their tip was poor, is the fact that most people these days can't take any sort of criticism.
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The girls at the drive thru window don't really expect tips around here.
shamus
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I used to be like alot and wouldnt tip at all if either the food or the service was bad till my son worked at a restaurant when he was in college.
Something to keep in mind if you dont leave a tip at all.
In alot of restaurants there is a policy that I think is BS where the cook and some of the other help get a mandatory percentage of the bill "tip" from the waiter no matter if the customer leaves a tip or not. This can actually work out where the waiter actually looses money as your meal particularly if its a larger party can actually cost the waiter more then he made in the night. This happened to my son once where a large party came in and according to him at least they had no complaints about either the food or service and still left no tip at all. That night not only did it work out that he worked for free cause he didnt make anything. But because he still had to give the cook his cut (I forget the term) It ended up actually costing him money to work that night.
He later found out that this group came in fairly regularly and never left a tip when they came in. So from that point on he and the other waiters refused to wait on them.
Now if the food is good and there is bad service. Well you can almost justify it. But still. considering how little they make in base pay the loss of a tip is bad enough but my mean shouldn't cost the waiter more then that loss IMO
Likewise. if the food is bad and you leave no tip. The waiter is the one that gets undeservedly punished cause the cook get his tip one way or the other.
If you have a problem with either the food or the service. The best thing to do is ask to see the manager as he can make adjustments in how the gratuity on that meal is split up so that the right person suffers the loss.
Course if neither the food nor the service is any good then by all means. Have at it. what I do if both are bad. I'll leave either some change or only like a dollar so they know I didnt just forget to tip
As for the policy of waiters being forced to give the cooks a cut. I think its BS. While I dont think that the tips should be split evenly among the waiter/servers. Between the servers and cooks You should either thrive or die as a team.
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my grand parents did it, my parents did it, so i do my damndest to try for 15% average, 20% above and beyond. if it its bad service ill simply leave a buck for them. my brothers ex grtilfriend worked in resturants as a waitress for a few years. i saw soem of the customers she had to deal with, so i always try to remember that the waiter/waitress has probably had a PITA Customer who thought they were better then the world.
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In some states serving personnel can legally be paid far below minimum wage on the expectation that they will make up the difference in tips. Those of you who say you don't tip if the server just does a basic, competent but not outstanding job and basing that on they are paid to do a basic, competent job already, understand that "paid" can mean $2 to $4 an hour without tips.
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Tipping isn't always a monetary reward. If they stink at their job give them a tip and tell them to get another one. :old:
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Wife worked in food service, we leave 20% or better depending on service. She will leave lousy tip if service is really bad. And we always tip the busser in cash. They get screwed most of the time on tips.
Her big pet peeve is when the automatically charge a gratuity. She will never give more even if service was awesome. Hey they just screwed themselves she says. We have three Kids and take my brothers four, so that makes nine and most will assume you will leave small tip if you have kids.
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Wife worked in food service, we leave 20% or better depending on service. She will leave lousy tip if service is really bad. And we always tip the busser in cash. They get screwed most of the time on tips.
Her big pet peeve is when the automatically charge a gratuity. She will never give more even if service was awesome. Hey they just screwed themselves she says. We have three Kids and take my brothers four, so that makes nine and most will assume you will leave small tip if you have kids.
That is the thing: if people have never been a server before they certainly do not know how difficult it can be. I am far more tolerant and observant than many people and in many cases I will give the server some slack because sometimes it is not their fault.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-qV9wVGb38
Watch and learn...
the full version, to see the conclusion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=GyR4RK0LA_E
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the full version, to see the conclusion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=GyR4RK0LA_E
Now you got that song stuck in my head you bastage.
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If the service is real bad, I'll leave a penny for a tip. I think that sends a stronger statement than no tip at all.
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I dont give anything unless the service is perfect or better but then we dont tip over here as the staff are payed well. Keep that in mind if you ever come here as a tourist. Ive seen many of them (tourists) pulling their hair feeling they need to tip 10-20% in addition to the already high cost of... anything here. When i travel abroad i usually check the travel guides for what the norm is in the country i visit and follow that advice.