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Title: Axis VS Allies Rolling Planeset Arena?
Post by: icepac on August 18, 2011, 12:00:37 PM
Since the current Axis VS Allies arena is currently a "quasi-special events arena" at the present, I was wondering if we could try out a Axis VS Allies arena that runs either a two week or one month war with the planeset representing what was available for the date?

Try it for 1 month maybe?
Title: Re: Axis VS Allies Rolling Planeset Arena?
Post by: fudgums on August 18, 2011, 12:33:42 PM
Search bugs war and battle of aces
Title: Re: Axis VS Allies Rolling Planeset Arena?
Post by: Oldman731 on August 18, 2011, 01:55:48 PM
Since the current Axis VS Allies arena is currently a "quasi-special events arena" at the present, I was wondering if we could try out a Axis VS Allies arena that runs either a two week or one month war with the planeset representing what was available for the date?

Try it for 1 month maybe?


The month-long ETO RPS was - in my opinion - one of the highest points of AvA.  We first ran it in January of 2006; I believe we ran it one further time perhaps a year later.  A player named Sable figured out how to proportionally reduce five-and-a-half years to four weeks, then put the planes into play at their rough times of entry.  You can find the main thread here:  http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,168482.0.html; you'll have to read in a couple of pages before you see Sable's Tables, and there were tweaks made as play progressed.

One of the surprising things (to me) was that playing the RPS made you realize how long England fought alone.  The Spit V vs. 109F match went on for what seemed a very, very long time.

- oldman

ADDENDUM:  Actually, perusing the threads from that period, this is the main thread for the first RPS, which was conducted from January - February, 2006:  http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,169178.0.html.

- oldman
Title: Re: Axis VS Allies Rolling Planeset Arena?
Post by: tmetal on August 18, 2011, 02:31:24 PM
sounds fun. Can we make that happen again for those of us that weren't around for that in '06?
Title: Re: Axis VS Allies Rolling Planeset Arena?
Post by: RTR on August 18, 2011, 08:05:37 PM
Off Topic, but Oldman, not staff any longer?

Hope you still  pop in once in a while.

cheers,
RTR
Title: Re: Axis VS Allies Rolling Planeset Arena?
Post by: Oldman731 on August 18, 2011, 10:10:32 PM
Off Topic, but Oldman, not staff any longer?

Hope you still  pop in once in a while.


It was time for the geezer to move out of the way.  The new generation has a lot of dedication, energy and good ideas that they're implementing, as you see with the new setups.  Plus, I felt it was detrimental to the arena for a staff member to be pushing an elitist attitude, and I tend to do that.  Too hard to teach an old dog new tricks.

That said, AvA is, and always will be, the reason I fly in AH.  Now I can enjoy it and relax.

- oldman
Title: Re: Axis VS Allies Rolling Planeset Arena?
Post by: RTR on August 18, 2011, 11:14:42 PM

It was time for the geezer to move out of the way.  The new generation has a lot of dedication, energy and good ideas that they're implementing, as you see with the new setups.  Plus, I felt it was detrimental to the arena for a staff member to be pushing an elitist attitude, and I tend to do that.  Too hard to teach an old dog new tricks.

That said, AvA is, and always will be, the reason I fly in AH.  Now I can enjoy it and relax.

- oldman

RGR that Sir, I think that may have been one of the reasons why I was such a short timer as staff. It was very rewarding at times for me, but hard to let go of some things. I really appreciate the time  (which was a very long time) that you dedicated to the AVA, and was really happy to see you in there tonight.

The AVA is evolving, I see some very exciting things and yet I miss some very exciting things too. Maybe the current Staff could see their way clear to bringing back a few of the old set-ups. Seems even us old guard had a few crowd pleasers. I miss the P38J and L , P47,P51 vs 109G2, G6, K4, 190D9, BF110 set ups, with an actual historical basis.

I am sure they will come around again, given time.
Title: Re: Axis VS Allies Rolling Planeset Arena?
Post by: icepac on August 19, 2011, 01:59:47 PM
I remember that some sims with rolling planeset also had the latest planes rotated in by date only being available at large airfields or airfields away from the front for a short time before finally being available at the rest of the fields.

This made flying the latest plane more interesting because the investment for your plane of choice was greater.
Title: Re: Axis VS Allies Rolling Planeset Arena?
Post by: Oldman731 on August 19, 2011, 02:04:23 PM
I remember that some sims with rolling planeset also had the latest planes rotated in by date only being available at large airfields or airfields away from the front for a short time before finally being available at the rest of the fields.

This made flying the latest plane more interesting because the investment for your plane of choice was greater.

Yes, we did that in the RPS.  It worked quite well, and was also a way to gradually withdraw planes as they became obsolete.

- oldman
Title: Re: Axis VS Allies Rolling Planeset Arena?
Post by: trap78 on August 19, 2011, 05:52:59 PM
A BIG  :aok to a rolling plane set. It would be great to see something like this run once in awhile.
Title: Re: Axis VS Allies Rolling Planeset Arena?
Post by: Puma44 on September 02, 2011, 04:44:52 PM

The month-long ETO RPS was - in my opinion - one of the highest points of AvA.  We first ran it in January of 2006; I believe we ran it one further time perhaps a year later.  A player named Sable figured out how to proportionally reduce five-and-a-half years to four weeks, then put the planes into play at their rough times of entry.  You can find the main thread here:  http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,168482.0.html; you'll have to read in a couple of pages before you see Sable's Tables, and there were tweaks made as play progressed.

One of the surprising things (to me) was that playing the RPS made you realize how long England fought alone.  The Spit V vs. 109F match went on for what seemed a very, very long time.

- oldman

ADDENDUM:  Actually, perusing the threads from that period, this is the main thread for the first RPS, which was conducted from January - February, 2006:  http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,169178.0.html.

- oldman

Hey AvA staff, this looks like it could be a lot of fun over a month's time period.  How about giving it a try?   :aok
Title: Re: Axis VS Allies Rolling Planeset Arena?
Post by: icepac on September 03, 2011, 01:51:20 PM
9 days in a row and I haven't seen a single person in A vs A.

Might have something to do with most every single ride disabled.

Meanwhile, I find axis vs allies action at another sim.
Title: Re: Axis VS Allies Rolling Planeset Arena?
Post by: captain1ma on September 03, 2011, 02:53:40 PM
did you read the motd? as of 9 days of no players, ive been in there every night. usually around 10-1030pm EST.
Title: Re: Axis VS Allies Rolling Planeset Arena?
Post by: jimson on September 03, 2011, 05:41:58 PM
9 days in a row and I haven't seen a single person in A vs A.

Might have something to do with most every single ride disabled.

Meanwhile, I find axis vs allies action at another sim.

These numbers from last week say different, not huge, but decent for a weeks play.

AXIS   ALLIES   
275   387   


Axis top killer: Bf 109F4 69 kills

Allies top killer: Seafire  98 kills
Title: Re: Axis VS Allies Rolling Planeset Arena?
Post by: captain1ma on September 03, 2011, 06:53:13 PM
Since the current Axis VS Allies arena is currently a "quasi-special events arena" at the present, I was wondering if we could try out a Axis VS Allies arena that runs either a two week or one month war with the planeset representing what was available for the date?

Try it for 1 month maybe?

guess  you werent around when we changed the planeset every day.
Title: Re: Axis VS Allies Rolling Planeset Arena?
Post by: Puma44 on September 04, 2011, 04:00:36 PM
9 days in a row and I haven't seen a single person in A vs A.

Might have something to do with most every single ride disabled.

Meanwhile, I find axis vs allies action at another sim.

Yeah, I have the same experience.  But, deacking a field usually draws at least one that wants to put an end to that.  And that brings in someone who wants to stop them and another, and another, etc.  Most times within 15 to 20 minutes, there are a half dozen or more getting after it.    ....just takes a little patience.
Title: Re: Axis VS Allies Rolling Planeset Arena?
Post by: captain1ma on September 08, 2011, 07:49:06 AM
how about a setup where you have to capture bases to get better planes?
Title: Re: Axis VS Allies Rolling Planeset Arena?
Post by: Puma44 on September 08, 2011, 12:57:37 PM
how about a setup where you have to capture bases to get better planes?

Now, there's a great idea!   :aok.  Let's do it! 
Title: Re: Axis VS Allies Rolling Planeset Arena?
Post by: ImADot on September 08, 2011, 01:26:52 PM
how about a setup where you have to capture bases to get better planes?

That sounds oddly familiar...  :noid
Title: Re: Axis VS Allies Rolling Planeset Arena?
Post by: jimson on September 08, 2011, 03:01:23 PM
That is in fact the best way to do it because it is automatic. We can enable any planes for any side at any fields and they are dormant, and become enabled only if that side captures the base.

Title: Re: Axis VS Allies Rolling Planeset Arena?
Post by: ImADot on September 08, 2011, 04:03:52 PM
Wouldn't it be nice if they still had the field capture order active...then you could direct the fights along certain paths so they can't capture that rear base with the late war rides when they still only have early war planes at the other bases.
Title: Re: Axis VS Allies Rolling Planeset Arena?
Post by: jimson on September 08, 2011, 04:48:57 PM
Wouldn't it be nice if they still had the field capture order active...then you could direct the fights along certain paths so they can't capture that rear base with the late war rides when they still only have early war planes at the other bases.

I wish that was an option we had.
Title: Re: Axis VS Allies Rolling Planeset Arena?
Post by: captain1ma on September 08, 2011, 08:37:20 PM
ummm i think its still there.
Title: Re: Axis VS Allies Rolling Planeset Arena?
Post by: icepac on September 18, 2011, 09:35:31 PM
Planes and thier service dates from another sim's planeset

The "bms" and "cv" are "big, medium, small" and "cv (carrier)"

Obviously gold means axis and red means allies.

It's a pretty old list.

Ki-27 Jan 1940 Jan 1943 Gold B M S
I-153 Jan 1940 Jan 1944 Red B M S
I-16 Type 28 Jan 1940 Jan 1944 Red B M S
I-16 Type 29 Jan 1940 Jan 1944 Red B M S
A6M2 Jan 1940 Jan 1943 Gold B M S CV
Bf 109E-4 Jan 1940 Jan 1943 Gold B M S
Hurricane I Jan 1940 Jan 1943 Red B M S
Spitfire Ia Jan 1940 Jan 1942 Red B M S
B5N2 Jan 1940 Sep 1945 Gold B M S CV
SBD-5 Jan 1940 Sep 1945 Red B M S CV
Ju 87B Jan 1940 Jan 1944 Gold B M S
Bf 110C-4 Jan 1940 Jan 1942 Gold B M S
DB-3F Jan 1940 Sep 1945 Red B M
Ju 88A-1 Jan 1940 Jan 1943 Gold B M
Ju 52 Jan 1940 Sep 1945 Gold B M S CV
Li-2 Jan 1940 Sep 1945 Red B M S CV
F4F-3 Jul 1940 Jan 1944 Red B M S CV
D3A2 Jul 1940 Sep 1945 Gold B M S CV
TBF-1C Oct 1940 Sep 1945 Red B M S CV
Spitfire IIa Nov 1940 Jan 1944 Red B M S
P-40B Dec 1940 Jan 1943 Red B M S
LaGG-3 Jan 1941 Jan 1944 Red B M S
Ju 87D Jan 1941 Sep 1945 Gold B M S
Pe-2 Jan 1941 Sep 1945 Red B M S
Ki-43-II Mar 1941 Jan 1944 Gold B M S
MiG-3 type 1 Apr 1941 Jan 1944 Red B M S
MiG-3 type 2 Apr 1941 Jan 1944 Red B M S
Hurricane IIC Apr 1941 Sep 1945 Red B M S
Spitfire Vc Apr 1941 Mar 1944 Red B M S
Bf 109F-2 May 1941 Jan 1944 Gold B M S
P-40E May 1941 Sep 1945 Red B M S
IL-2 May 1941 Jan 1944 Red B M S
F4F-4 Jun 1941 Sep 1945 Red B M S CV
Ju 88A-4 Jun 1941 Sep 1945 Gold B M
Yak-1 Jul 1941 Jan 1944 Red B M S
MC.202 Jul 1941 Sep 1945 Gold B M S
Bf 109T-1 Jul 1941 Sep 1945 Gold CV
Bf 110F-1 Jul 1941 Jan 1944 Gold B M S
G4M2 Jul 1941 Sep 1945 Gold B M CV
P-39D Oct 1941 Sep 1945 Red B M S
Bf 109F-4 Nov 1941 Jan 1945 Gold B M S
Mosquito IV Jan 1942 Sep 1945 Red B M S
B-25C Feb 1942 Sep 1945 Red B M
A6M3 Mar 1942 Sep 1945 Gold B M S CV
P-38F Mar 1942 Jan 1944 Red B M S
Bf 109G-2 Apr 1942 Sep 1945 Gold B M S
Yak-9 Jun 1942 Sep 1945 Red B M S
La-5 Jun 1942 Jul 1944 Red B M S
Bf 109G-2/R6 Jul 1942 Sep 1945 Gold B M S
Fw 190A-4 Jul 1942 Jan 1945 Gold B M S
Seafire II Jul 1942 Sep 1945 Red CV
Spitfire IXe Jul 1942 Sep 1945 Red B M S
Typhoon 1B Jul 1942 Sep 1945 Red B M S
B-24D Jul 1942 Sep 1945 Red B
Yak-9D Sep 1942 Sep 1945 Red B M S
P-47C Dec 1942 Jan 1945 Red B M S
B-17F Dec 1942 Sep 1945 Red B
Bf 109G-6 Jan 1943 Sep 1945 Gold B M S
Bf 109G-6/R6 Jan 1943 Sep 1945 Gold B M S
P-39Q Jan 1943 Sep 1945 Red B M S
F4U-1A Jan 1943 Sep 1945 Red B M S CV
IL-2M Jan 1943 Sep 1945 Red B M S
Bf 110G-2 Jan 1943 Sep 1945 Gold B M S
Me 410A Jan 1943 Sep 1945 Gold B M S
He-177A-3/R2 Jan 1943 Sep 1945 Gold B
A6M5a Mar 1943 Sep 1945 Gold B M S CV
Ki-61-Ib Mar 1943 Sep 1945 Gold B M S
Ju 87G Mar 1943 Sep 1945 Gold B M S
La-5FN Jun 1943 Sep 1945 Red B M S
N1K1-J Jul 1943 Sep 1945 Gold B M S
F6F-3 Jul 1943 Jan 1945 Red B M S CV
Mosquito VI Jul 1943 Sep 1945 Red B M S
B-25H Jul 1943 Sep 1945 Red B M
A6M5b Aug 1943 Sep 1945 Gold B M S CV
IL-2M3 Aug 1943 Sep 1945 Red B M S
P-38J Aug 1943 Jan 1945 Red B M S
Yak-9T Sep 1943 Sep 1945 Red B M S
Ki-61-Ic Oct 1943 Sep 1945 Gold B M S
P-51B Oct 1943 Sep 1945 Red B M S
FM-2 Nov 1943 Sep 1945 Red B M S CV
B-24J Nov 1943 Sep 1945 Red B
Bf 109G-10 Jan 1944 Sep 1945 Gold B M S
Fw 190A-8 Jan 1944 Sep 1945 Gold B M S
F6F-5 Jan 1944 Sep 1945 Red B M S CV
Me 410B Jan 1944 Sep 1945 Gold B M S
Ki-84-Ia Feb 1944 Sep 1945 Gold B M S
Bf 109G-10/R6 Feb 1944 Sep 1945 Gold B M S
B-25J Feb 1944 Sep 1945 Red B M
Yak-3 Mar 1944 Sep 1945 Red B M S
Fw 190F-8 Mar 1944 Sep 1945 Gold B M S
N1K2-J Mar 1944 Sep 1945 Gold B M S
P-51D Mar 1944 Sep 1945 Red B M S
F4U-1D Mar 1944 Sep 1945 Red B M S CV
P-47D May 1944 Sep 1945 Red B M S
B-17G Jun 1944 Sep 1945 Red B
Spitfire XIV Jul 1944 Sep 1945 Red B M S
P-38L Jul 1944 Sep 1945 Red B M S
Fw 190D-9 Sep 1944 Sep 1945 Gold B M S
Bf 109K-4 Oct 1944 Sep 1945 Gold B M S
Fw 190A-8/R8 Oct 1944 Sep 1945 Gold B M S
La-7 Jan 1945 Sep 1945 Red B M S
F4U-4 Jan 1945 Sep 1945 Red B M S CV
Me 262A-1a Aug 1945 Sep 1945 Gold B
 

Specified appearance months in the list is the appearance of a plane on big fields. On other fields a plane appears in the next month.

This list doesn't pretend to be full historically correct as it was modified after review with respect to an axis vs allies environment but most of the dates actually are accurate and it has years of changes made to it for use as a rolling planeset.

The 262 is the most inaccurate concerning dates because of it's ability to profoundly affect an axis vs allies arena where ENY and perk points are not practiced.

Interesting list but not a suggestion......I just found it interesting.

Title: Re: Axis VS Allies Rolling Planeset Arena?
Post by: Nr_RaVeN on September 19, 2011, 09:50:35 AM
Plane set is rolling now... Take bases, get new toys for your side..Instantly..