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Title: Someone to change my oil
Post by: Raptor05121 on August 24, 2011, 07:39:34 PM
To whom it concerns,

Today I visited your hangar to pick up my B-26C I dropped off for repair last night. Your mechanic was very nice and went over all of the things he has fixed: new windscreen, cleaned up the blood, patched up a few holes and put a new engine, prop and cowling on the left side. Well today I went out for a flight and was again shot at. The little .303 rounds didnt do much (something I for sure can patch up myself) but to my dismay, one stray round managed to pierce my oil return line. The dirtiest, darkest oil as black as the night started shooting out of my 0-time engine. I made it back to base safely and upon checking, my #2 engine has dirty oil as well. I think this is ridiculous how you install brand new engines with this black oil. Last time I checked, the AD oil should be a golden color when new. I look forward to my next oil change.
Title: Re: Someone to change my oil
Post by: Karnak on August 24, 2011, 07:52:22 PM
Oil was black.  Most of these aircraft work with total loss oil systems, which is why the longer ranged aircraft have larger oil tanks.
Title: Re: Someone to change my oil
Post by: MachFly on August 24, 2011, 08:52:49 PM
The reason why you see back oil is because your engine (and the surrounding parts) was shot and it was burned.
Title: Re: Someone to change my oil
Post by: JOACH1M on August 24, 2011, 09:12:30 PM
The reason why you see back oil is because your engine (and the surrounding parts) was shot and it was burned.
Also probably black so u can tell from a radiator hit
Title: Re: Someone to change my oil
Post by: skorpion on August 24, 2011, 09:19:07 PM
Also probably black so u can tell from a radiator hit
radiator hits are light gray and dont leave any marks. oil leaves marks.
Title: Re: Someone to change my oil
Post by: JOACH1M on August 24, 2011, 09:54:30 PM
radiator hits are light gray and dont leave any marks. oil leaves marks.
If they changed the oil color to the color he saint should look it would a lot harder to tell when u hit on te enemy  :)
Title: Re: Someone to change my oil
Post by: PuppetZ on August 24, 2011, 10:23:26 PM
If they changed the oil color to the color he saint should look it would a lot harder to tell when u hit on te enemy  :)

Oil dont stay golden for long in an engine. In a car's engine at least, after 15 min it's quite dark. Not as dark as after 5000 miles but alot darker than brand new oil. Can post pics to prove it if you want.
Title: Re: Someone to change my oil
Post by: JOACH1M on August 24, 2011, 10:27:16 PM
Oil dont stay golden for long in an engine. In a car's engine at least, after 15 min it's quite dark. Not as dark as after 5000 miles but alot darker than brand new oil. Can post pics to prove it if you want.
I never said it didn't  :bhead I'm taking "Leave the oil black" side of this.


I know I just changed my cars oil after 2 years of driving last week. It was black  :lol
Title: Re: Someone to change my oil
Post by: Devil 505 on August 24, 2011, 11:06:29 PM
It all really depends on the design of the engine. Some engines just run dirty, and that dirt gets into the crankcase. For example, on diesel engines (ex: Duramax) you just drained a the oil. All 10 quarts of it. Add the new oil which is golden brown color and clear. Run the engine for 15 seconds. That new oil is just as black as the old oil. It looks like black paint.
Title: Re: Someone to change my oil
Post by: clerick on August 24, 2011, 11:15:16 PM
Oil dont stay golden for long in an engine. In a car's engine at least, after 15 min it's quite dark. Not as dark as after 5000 miles but alot darker than brand new oil. Can post pics to prove it if you want.

This has a lot to do with the filters size and efficiency.  There are aftermarket systems out there that will keep oil golden for many many miles
Title: Re: Someone to change my oil
Post by: B-17 on August 25, 2011, 07:16:12 AM
radiator hits are light gray and dont leave any marks. oil leaves marks.

Wait... If radiator hits are light gray, and oil hits are black, fire is red/orange/yellow, smoke is gray-ish, and the Smoke is red and blue, what color is the fuel?
Title: Re: Someone to change my oil
Post by: Dragon Tamer on August 25, 2011, 08:44:27 AM
It's pink... no I actually thing it's green

I would like to add a fair point to this thread, no this is not a hijaking.  If you engine oil is hit I know that quite a few of the planes in WWII (mostly American planes) if a plane's engine oil is hit the hydrolics were fed from the engine running, once the engine stoped running hydrolics didn't work.  I would like to see this in the game.  If my engine stops running why do my landing gears still go down (and back up more importantly)...  :headscratch:
Title: Re: Someone to change my oil
Post by: Rino on August 25, 2011, 09:17:47 AM
      Maybe the gear still go down because gravity still works without hydraulics?  :D
Title: Re: Someone to change my oil
Post by: Dragon Tamer on August 25, 2011, 09:22:49 AM
That's what I was thinking but It shouldn't go back up.  Only the germans desocvered antigravity in WWII
Title: Re: Someone to change my oil
Post by: surfinn on August 25, 2011, 09:36:04 AM
Ive often thought the oil stains were way over done. Couldn't it just stain the side your leak came from? Like for instance if ya get hit on the port side of the ac then just the left side of the cockpit could show a stain. Would oil really stick to a cockpit that way at 200+mph or would it eventually role off ?
Title: Re: Someone to change my oil
Post by: VonMessa on August 25, 2011, 10:03:33 AM
Ive often thought the oil stains were way over done. Couldn't it just stain the side your leak came from? Like for instance if ya get hit on the port side of the ac then just the left side of the cockpit could show a stain. Would oil really stick to a cockpit that way at 200+mph or would it eventually role off ?

Oil from a blown rod sticks very well to a vehicle windshield and greatly obscures vision.  It also stays there at 145 mph (not in one place, but smearing even further over the windshield)

No need to ask me how I know this...
Title: Re: Someone to change my oil
Post by: Krusty on August 25, 2011, 10:04:21 AM
Whether overdone or not, oil on pristine-conditioned warbirds even now still runs black down the airframes and engine cowlings. In war-time? Definitely so.
Title: Re: Someone to change my oil
Post by: Krusty on August 25, 2011, 10:07:05 AM
This P-47 took a hit to its oil system and had to make an emergency landing....

(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9352/p47d12afteroilleak.jpg)
Title: Re: Someone to change my oil
Post by: JOACH1M on August 25, 2011, 11:01:52 AM
This P-47 took a hit to its oil system and had to make an emergency landing....

(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9352/p47d12afteroilleak.jpg)
:eek: that is a pretty cool photo!!
Title: Re: Someone to change my oil
Post by: skorpion on August 25, 2011, 02:02:35 PM
This P-47 took a hit to its oil system and had to make an emergency landing....

(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9352/p47d12afteroilleak.jpg)
that had to be a fun ride home...
Title: Re: Someone to change my oil
Post by: B-17 on August 25, 2011, 02:19:27 PM
:rofl I can picture it now...

Dammit, I can't see.

Hmm...

Shoves back canopy, puts on Snoopy Red Baron Scarf and goggles, and leans out the side.

:lol
Title: Re: Someone to change my oil
Post by: Raptor05121 on August 25, 2011, 06:59:18 PM
One of my friends made an engine-out in his Arrow after an annual a month beforehand. Mechanic didnt safety-wire the oil filter and it spun off. Golden brown oil all over the brand-new paint. IIRC the oil had ~20 hours on it.
Title: Re: Someone to change my oil
Post by: colmbo on August 25, 2011, 08:16:15 PM
Most of these aircraft work with total loss oil systems, which is why the longer ranged aircraft have larger oil tanks.

No they aren't.  A Le Rhone rotary was total loss...a Wright or P&W isn't -- although from cleaning up after them many times it seems like they are.
Title: Re: Someone to change my oil
Post by: PFactorDave on August 25, 2011, 09:06:47 PM

Shoves back canopy, puts on Snoopy Red Baron Scarf and goggles, and leans out the side.


If you look at the photo closely, it looks like he has oil all over his arm and shoulder.  Like he would if he did exactly as you describe.
Title: Re: Someone to change my oil
Post by: colmbo on August 25, 2011, 09:52:35 PM
Would oil really stick to a cockpit that way at 200+mph or would it eventually role off ?

I had an oil cooler let go on a Cessna -- a little bit of oil goes a loooonnnnggggg way.  Nearly the entire right side of the fuselage was coated with oil, I figured I had probably dumped most of the oil out but when I checked I was only down a little over a quart.  It's pretty nasty stuff, sticks quite well even in the prop blast.
Title: Re: Someone to change my oil
Post by: skorpion on August 25, 2011, 09:55:34 PM
This P-47 took a hit to its oil system and had to make an emergency landing....

(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9352/p47d12afteroilleak.jpg)
i started thinking "that guys face is priceless"  he was probably thinking "damn...just...damn"
Title: Re: Someone to change my oil
Post by: titanic3 on August 25, 2011, 10:50:06 PM
Hmmmm, how come we can't have the option of opening our canopy at the cost of drag and maybe losing our oggles in the wind? :(
Title: Re: Someone to change my oil
Post by: MachFly on August 26, 2011, 12:46:39 AM
It also stays there at 145 mph (not in one place, but smearing even further over the windshield)

I can confirm this from personal experience.

It was on Super Decalon during aerobatics. If anyone wants to know the whole story let me know, I'll PM it to you (don't want to post it on an open forum).
Title: Re: Someone to change my oil
Post by: Fud on August 26, 2011, 06:44:01 PM
I suppose you can up the gamma to lighten the oil a bit lol
Title: Re: Someone to change my oil
Post by: Nathan60 on August 27, 2011, 12:04:48 PM
Thats a pretty impressive photo. I always  thought  that the oil  was a little over done  aswell now I clearly see that it is not. I