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Title: So hows the game these days?
Post by: crockett on August 26, 2011, 11:54:16 AM
Been bored lately and was thinking of coming back for some action, so hows the fighting been?
Title: Re: So hows the game these days?
Post by: Citabria on August 26, 2011, 12:06:49 PM
new tank control and gunsight system is awsome

lots of new additions and updates to 3d models and new planes and tanks.

been enjoying the game quite a bit myself lately in an il2 that has in my mind been undweebified by the removal of its external view making it quite fun to fly with relistic view limitations.

lots of furballing. new turney birds like the brewester and they added a b29 which is a very powerful and highly defended bomber. hard to kill when they are up at altitude. got a tiger II thats able to stand up to about most hits from the front but can be killed from the sides and rear by t-34s without to much trouble. large bombs work too. I've been able to knock out the turret on tigerIIs after many hits and could probably get a kill with cannons if they werent always sitting on a pile of vehicle supplies that repair themsleves faster than i can damage them with 37mm.
Title: Re: So hows the game these days?
Post by: Zoney on August 26, 2011, 12:26:52 PM
Are you kidding me?  This game is awesome!  You are missing out on alot of fun.  Many updates keep improving the game every month.

Come back and play, you'll love it!
Title: Re: So hows the game these days?
Post by: JOACH1M on August 26, 2011, 12:29:28 PM
New town and airfilend set ups
Title: Re: So hows the game these days?
Post by: PFactorDave on August 26, 2011, 12:38:33 PM
Just for the sake of full disclosure...

Still plenty of large base rolling hordes...

Vulching, picking, ganging

For some reason flying P51Ds, 190s, Typhies at altitude just picking seems to be accepted by the community.

Picking furballs in 262s is considered ok for some reason too.

There are still folks who will do just about anything they can think of to avoid actually fighting.
Title: Re: So hows the game these days?
Post by: mensa180 on August 26, 2011, 01:35:26 PM
Just for the sake of full disclosure...

Still plenty of large base rolling hordes...

Vulching, picking, ganging

For some reason flying P51Ds, 190s, Typhies at altitude just picking seems to be accepted by the community.

Picking furballs in 262s is considered ok for some reason too.

There are still folks who will do just about anything they can think of to avoid actually fighting.

So basically the community hasn't changed at all, but there's cool new stuff!
Title: Re: So hows the game these days?
Post by: Zoney on August 26, 2011, 01:52:55 PM
So basically the community hasn't changed at all, but there's cool new stuff!

Yes, that's right, the way people are hasn't changed in about 10,000 years.  If you are miserable, you can be miserable here too.

If you have fun you can have fun here too.
Title: Re: So hows the game these days?
Post by: Scca on August 26, 2011, 02:52:26 PM
For some reason flying P51Ds, 190s, Typhies at altitude just picking seems to be accepted by the community.

This is my personal favorite... When I am not on with the squad, I climb to the stratosphere and look just these types.  My favorite ride is the -4 as it will catch just about anything with the alt I bring into the fight.  It's almost comical to see them dive and run when they find me with alt and E on them. 

I don't know why, but I get a chuckle when they start to stick stir when I get with guns range.  They spend so much time perfecting the pick, they can't defend against it. 

Man this is a fun game....
Title: Re: So hows the game these days?
Post by: gyrene81 on August 26, 2011, 03:04:44 PM
Yes, that's right, the way people are hasn't changed in about 10,000 years.  If you are miserable, you can be miserable here too.

If you have fun you can have fun here too.
:aok  what he said...
Title: Re: So hows the game these days?
Post by: skorpion on August 26, 2011, 04:37:59 PM
not much has changed if you havent played in the past year or so...and am i the only one who didnt forget to mention the G4M????? come on people, get with the program here!  :lol


anyways...i just wish they would update my P47's so they look better   :cool:
Title: Re: So hows the game these days?
Post by: Rich52 on August 26, 2011, 05:51:44 PM
I still yet to see a Betty since Ive been back.

Some cool GVs have been added. The Mossie bomber was huge. The B-29 is huge. P-47M was huge. Some of the re-dos have been huge. Mostly tho, just like it used to be, its hordes of 51Ds, LA-7s, Spixteens...ect. Less players, tho you dont notice cause theres only one LWA. But you do notice many old names are gone.  :frown: WW1 is a gas when anyones in there. Ive noticed there are far less heavy bomber squads  :frown: But the wonderful heavy bombers, my first love way back when, are still there.

The main thing tho is the Hangar is full of many, many, many airplanes and vehicles. The true gems being the lesser spits, the LA-5, the B-239, B-25H, KI-67s, Yaks...ect

Another "main thing" is you start the game and everything actually works. And its easy to set up. And help is close by. Really what good is cutting edge graphics if 1/2 the players cant even play the game? Or every time you get more then 5 planes together your FRs go to 8 FPS ? :salute
Title: Re: So hows the game these days?
Post by: PFactorDave on August 26, 2011, 05:53:10 PM
I still yet to see a Betty since Ive been back.

She's still around, I saw her flying a week or so ago.
Title: Re: So hows the game these days?
Post by: Rich52 on August 26, 2011, 05:55:19 PM
She's still around, I saw her flying a week or so ago.

She was needed, not saying she wasnt. She was to much a part of history to be left out.

Like the TU-2 and PE-2........... :D
Title: Re: So hows the game these days?
Post by: PFactorDave on August 26, 2011, 08:26:49 PM
She was needed, not saying she wasnt. She was to much a part of history to be left out.

Like the TU-2 and PE-2........... :D

 :rofl  I think we're talking about two totally different Bettys!
Title: Re: So hows the game these days?
Post by: Karnak on August 26, 2011, 10:00:09 PM
I fly the G4M1 in the LWA now and then.  Shot down a C.202 with it last time.

Oh yes, only one Late War Arena right now.

I don't know when you last played, but they redid the Mosquito VI's flight model and took off the flame dampers when they updated its graphics.  For me that was huge.
Title: Re: So hows the game these days?
Post by: cattb on August 26, 2011, 10:01:06 PM
:rofl  I think we're talking about two totally different Bettys!
:lol
Title: Re: So hows the game these days?
Post by: Airwolf on August 26, 2011, 10:55:13 PM
...cutting edge graphics if 1/2 the players cant even play the game?

The graphics are hardly "cutting edge"...Lots of room for improvement...
Title: Re: So hows the game these days?
Post by: Pixie on August 26, 2011, 11:58:28 PM
The graphics look cool but they kill my frame rates, I just fly with them off. The graphics are the least of my issues, just wish some people would fight once in a while!  :angel: :rock
Title: Re: So hows the game these days?
Post by: crockett on August 27, 2011, 06:33:16 AM
Well I guess it sounds about like I expected with the hoards of cherry pickers. As far as when I last played I think it was around tour 104 or somewhere around there. The B29 was already in the game then if you guys are talking about the anti tank one with the big cannon in the nose.

As far as planes, I used to fly the K-4 all the time, so as long as it hasn't been messed with I guess I'd be happy. Would just be nice if the hoards of spits & lalas had gone away.  :(
Title: Re: So hows the game these days?
Post by: Debrody on August 27, 2011, 07:06:29 AM
The B29 was already in the game then if you guys are talking about the anti tank one with the big cannon in the nose.
Not the B-25, the B-29  : )
Btw, if you fly K-4s, Lalas arent as bad. As for the spits, at least they wont run away from you  : )  Give it a try, Sir.
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Title: Re: So hows the game these days?
Post by: lunatic1 on August 27, 2011, 07:39:05 AM
i like it
Title: Re: So hows the game these days?
Post by: Rich52 on August 27, 2011, 12:24:54 PM
:rofl  I think we're talking about two totally different Bettys!

Oh, lol, I saw her to a few days ago. Even she is on less. She has made me pay for mistakes a few times. :D
Title: Re: So hows the game these days?
Post by: Scotch on August 27, 2011, 07:55:42 PM
hi
Title: Re: So hows the game these days?
Post by: crockett on August 28, 2011, 08:37:30 AM
ok so I rejoined to give it a go. (game wouldn't give me a 2 week trial  :mad:). but damn I'm pretty rusty.. took awhile to figure out how to drop my fuel tank.  :rofl

One thing is certain, little has changed, in the game play.. I drug a P-51 away from the hoard had a decent little roundy round going with him until a F6F & 190- had to come join a for the l33t cherry picks. That was the only decent fight I found so far until the other 2 showed up for their l33t easy gankings, but I'm still getting back into the groove of things.

Ahh and  :salute Scotch
Title: Re: So hows the game these days?
Post by: bj229r on August 28, 2011, 02:52:56 PM
The gameplay IS what it IS. If that drove you off before...the new eye-candy will just barely last that 2 weeks before you reach the same conclusion as before. Absent hanging out with my friends, I prolly wouldn't play anymore either
Title: Re: So hows the game these days?
Post by: guncrasher on August 28, 2011, 02:56:39 PM
The gameplay IS what it IS. If that drove you off before...the new eye-candy will just barely last that 2 weeks before you reach the same conclusion as before. Absent hanging out with my friends, I prolly wouldn't play anymore either

so true.  the attraction of ah (as in aw)  was always the friends you fly with.

semp
Title: Re: So hows the game these days?
Post by: crockett on August 29, 2011, 01:10:12 PM
The gameplay IS what it IS. If that drove you off before...the new eye-candy will just barely last that 2 weeks before you reach the same conclusion as before. Absent hanging out with my friends, I prolly wouldn't play anymore either

Eye candy never really did much for me, I just want some decent random fights. It's a shame that the Axis vs Allies never really got much attention from the player base as I'd prefer to have that kind of fighting environment but it was always dead when I played back then and still seems dead now. As for the MA, it used to be nice to have the separate MA's so you could go fly in the smaller of the two.

Anyway.. I guess I'll see how it goes but the MA is what the MA is..  :(
Title: Re: So hows the game these days?
Post by: COndor06 on August 30, 2011, 07:37:27 AM
I was thinking about coming back for a spin but it doesn't sound like much has changed. Been away for about 15 months. I do miss hanging with Slash, Bear, Milvil, Angry, and the rest of my HA buddies.
Title: Re: So hows the game these days?
Post by: crockett on August 30, 2011, 09:36:55 AM
I was thinking about coming back for a spin but it doesn't sound like much has changed. Been away for about 15 months. I do miss hanging with Slash, Bear, Milvil, Angry, and the rest of my HA buddies.

Yesterday was a bit better, I helped defend a base from some guys that kept trying to take it over and over. Wasn't any out standing fights but at least it wasn't hoards of Spit 16s, lalas every time. They were at least trying to fight for it.

One thing I've noticed though is it almost seems like F4U's are the new spit 16s (not even at carrier fights). I think I've seen more of them than Spits, since I decided to give it a try again. You might think that would be an improvement, but it's next to impossible to do much against lots of F4U's because they turn like freaking zeeks.

It's ok if you just want to BnZ but I always liked to get down into a fight, but when it's going to end up with 2 or 3 F4U's & maybe a F4F it's kinda pointless to do anything in a K-4 or Jug other than BnZ.

I went to the DA last night just to see if anything was decent and upped a Jug.. Flew out to the center and literally every plane was a F4U with 1 F4F so I just turned around and landed because there wasn't any point.

It's really a shame IMO, because this game has always had great potential but it just seems the average player wants the instant action of a first person shooter and landing their high score kills rather than quality dog fights. I must admit I was already feeling just as frustrated with the game 2 days in as I was when I left 2 years ago. I'm still hoping I can find some GF's out there as there just aren't that many games I really enjoy or have what I consider long term potential.
Title: Re: So hows the game these days?
Post by: Wiley on August 30, 2011, 10:26:41 AM
If the lack of white knuckle 1v1s is the major reason you left, I'm afraid you're not going to find too much different these days in the MA.  It's a free-for-all in there, and the majority either dives out as soon as they lose advantage or flies in a group.

It's really a shame IMO, because this game has always had great potential but it just seems the average player wants the instant action of a first person shooter and landing their high score kills rather than quality dog fights.

In a cursory search of the forums, I found the first horde mention for AH that I saw was in mid-2001.  I didn't look that hard, but I'm betting there were earlier ones.

I have been formulating a theory that you old guys remember about 15 minutes after the servers came up in May of 2000, before enough people logged in that 10 or 20 of them figured out that if they all go to one place and somewhat work together, they can push the other side around.  That first 15 minutes when the servers opened became the 'good old days' and is what you judge the rest of your gameplay experience by.

I'm sorry you can't find enough 1v1s.  I don't understand why the people who want unmolested turn-based 1v1s don't organize to go into the DA and do it, but it doesn't seem to happen for whatever reason.

Wiley.
Title: Re: So hows the game these days?
Post by: crockett on August 30, 2011, 11:02:29 AM
If the lack of white knuckle 1v1s is the major reason you left, I'm afraid you're not going to find too much different these days in the MA.  It's a free-for-all in there, and the majority either dives out as soon as they lose advantage or flies in a group.

In a cursory search of the forums, I found the first horde mention for AH that I saw was in mid-2001.  I didn't look that hard, but I'm betting there were earlier ones.

I have been formulating a theory that you old guys remember about 15 minutes after the servers came up in May of 2000, before enough people logged in that 10 or 20 of them figured out that if they all go to one place and somewhat work together, they can push the other side around.  That first 15 minutes when the servers opened became the 'good old days' and is what you judge the rest of your gameplay experience by.

I'm sorry you can't find enough 1v1s.  I don't understand why the people who want unmolested turn-based 1v1s don't organize to go into the DA and do it, but it doesn't seem to happen for whatever reason.

Wiley.

Has nothing to do with expecting 1v1's or good ole days. It was never that good when I was here before, was still the same stuff then. No where did I mention good ole days.. Just that quality of fights has always left a lot to be desired.

The game is what the players make it. We have the tools to make it good or bad, but unfortunately it seems most are interested in just landing 4 or 5 easy cherry pick kills & getting WTG's vs pushing their own limits to become good virtual fighter sticks and maybe not landing at all because they died in a hard fight. The players that push their own limits are what makes the game better and makes other players push their limits.

It's not about good ole days or 1v1s but rather attitude of playing on easy mode vs trying to play on hard. I think when you hear people talking about the "good ole days" it's not so much that the game was different, but there were more people that wanted to play on hard mode. There have always been hoards, cherry pickers, hotards, ect, but there has also been a bit more respect for the actual fights mixed in there that keeps getting diluted.
Title: Re: So hows the game these days?
Post by: The Fugitive on August 30, 2011, 11:03:29 AM
It's not so much a 1 vs 1 , its a battle that we look for. "In the old days" people fought for bases you could, and would spend hours taking defending, and retaking a base. That was were the fun was. All kinds of battles were to be had. Ground or air there were tons if fights.

Today players are more interested in grabbing a base quick and then run off and find another place to grab another one quick. So now you spend your time either chasing the quick graders, or are part of the group of quick grabbers.

I hope some day the players who like fighting find their way into the game.
Title: Re: So hows the game these days?
Post by: crockett on August 30, 2011, 11:11:10 AM
It's not so much a 1 vs 1 , its a battle that we look for. "In the old days" people fought for bases you could, and would spend hours taking defending, and retaking a base. That was were the fun was. All kinds of battles were to be had. Ground or air there were tons if fights.

Today players are more interested in grabbing a base quick and then run off and find another place to grab another one quick. So now you spend your time either chasing the quick graders, or are part of the group of quick grabbers.

I hope some day the players who like fighting find their way into the game.

Yea I'm not really into capturing bases, but I don't mind defending them. Last night, what made the fight fun for me was because the group that was trying to capture it kept trying over and over. They didn't give up and run off to some other undefended base for a quick capture they kept coming back over and over and trying to capture it.
Title: Re: So hows the game these days?
Post by: COndor06 on August 30, 2011, 11:17:26 AM
I guess my good Ole days were more like:

Entering a fight 1 vs 1 and someone would ask if you wanted help before jumping in to BNZ your foe
Working togather to capture bases or do fighter sweeps
Players looking for a good fight that engaged upon view and would come back to meet you over and over
Yucking it up with guys on 200 even when you lost to them
Meeting up with other squads for a night of play
Fighting other squads in the DA (Squad VS Squad)for bragging rights then complimenting the winner
Doing GV or aircraft missions where the entire squad would meet to be involved

Those are the days I miss.
Title: Re: So hows the game these days?
Post by: Wiley on August 30, 2011, 12:25:46 PM
Yea I'm not really into capturing bases, but I don't mind defending them. Last night, what made the fight fun for me was because the group that was trying to capture it kept trying over and over. They didn't give up and run off to some other undefended base for a quick capture they kept coming back over and over and trying to capture it.

That's a semi-common kind of fight these days.  What usually ruins it is one side or the other gets discouraged and leaves, or the other side suddenly has a horde show up that wipes the other side, and the fight dies.

Wiley.
Title: Re: So hows the game these days?
Post by: betty on September 18, 2011, 12:20:11 PM
:rofl  I think we're talking about two totally different Bettys!

lol thats hilarious!! funny thing is, is when i first started playin AH, i had NO idea there was a plane nicknamed "betty" lol. kind of ironic though lol