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Title: Who needs helicopters?
Post by: MachFly on August 28, 2011, 10:41:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPSElw8qEsI&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPSElw8qEsI&feature=related)

Title: Re: Who needs helicopters?
Post by: saggs on August 29, 2011, 09:31:28 AM
I like to watch the STOL contests held every year in Valdez.  There's videos of at least 2008-present on Youtube.
Title: Re: Who needs helicopters?
Post by: Rob52240 on August 29, 2011, 09:56:10 AM
Is that landing gear off a P-40?
Title: Re: Who needs helicopters?
Post by: Pigslilspaz on August 29, 2011, 11:20:32 AM
Is that landing gear off a P-40?

I lol'd
Title: Re: Who needs helicopters?
Post by: Tupac on August 29, 2011, 11:52:51 AM
 :O
Title: Re: Who needs helicopters?
Post by: Killer91 on August 29, 2011, 12:23:59 PM
How exactly does that work? Strong head winds?
Title: Re: Who needs helicopters?
Post by: MachFly on August 29, 2011, 12:45:54 PM
How exactly does that work? Strong head winds?

Not exactly, headwind does help but in this case it's just a really good airplane. Basically it's light & powerful.
Title: Re: Who needs helicopters?
Post by: MachFly on August 29, 2011, 12:47:42 PM
I like to watch the STOL contests held every year in Valdez.  There's videos of at least 2008-present on Youtube.

Do you watch the real ones of videos?
Title: Re: Who needs helicopters?
Post by: saggs on August 29, 2011, 02:19:05 PM
Do you watch the real ones of videos?

No, I've never been there, I'd like to someday.  I love Alaska.    BTW, just looked it up, this years winner was 78' total, that's 43 for take off, and 35 for landing.  Here's the story and videos of pilot interview and planes in action http://www.eaa.org/news/2011/2011-05-12_stol.asp.  he gives all the specs on his plane too.

Not exactly, headwind does help but in this case it's just a really good airplane. Basically it's light & powerful.

Plus a really, really good pilot.  :old:   Without lots of experience I think a lot of pilots would crash trying that kind of stuff.  In the videos I've seen there are several competitors who nose over, or just prop strike.  

Basically they hang on the prop, at crazy AOA as long as they can, then cut power, dump the flaps and plop down.  Most of them have linked ailerons too (so they droop with the flaps) The tundra tires let them plop down pretty hard without damage.  Most all the planes are experimental, since there are no STCs for some of the crazy mods they do.

Of course all the STOL mods means that fast they ain't.

On a related note, I've a buddy who is restoring an Antonov AN-2.  The POH, has no listed stall speed.  He says that at airshows, if they have  30kt or greater wind, they can demonstrate backwards flight.
Title: Re: Who needs helicopters?
Post by: MachFly on August 29, 2011, 04:36:00 PM
No, I've never been there, I'd like to someday.  I love Alaska.    BTW, just looked it up, this years winner was 78' total, that's 43 for take off, and 35 for landing.  Here's the story and videos of pilot interview and planes in action http://www.eaa.org/news/2011/2011-05-12_stol.asp.  he gives all the specs on his plane too.

Thanks for the link


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On a related note, I've a buddy who is restoring an Antonov AN-2.  The POH, has no listed stall speed.  He says that at airshows, if they have  30kt or greater wind, they can demonstrate backwards flight.

Done that  :D
Title: Re: Who needs helicopters?
Post by: mbailey on August 29, 2011, 05:01:54 PM
and 35 for landing
 

Dang i have tape measures that long............now thats talent  :aok
Title: Re: Who needs helicopters?
Post by: VonMessa on August 29, 2011, 05:19:48 PM
Awesome!  I could land in the field across the street from my house  :rock

Although not as impressive as the cub in the video, the Bearhawk that I am (slowly) building is not too shabby considering that it is a true 4-place with a 1200 lb. useful load, even with a 0-360 in it  :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux3Uu2JfXVg&playnext=1&list=PL9C6375A724D65E72 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux3Uu2JfXVg&playnext=1&list=PL9C6375A724D65E72)

They also seem to be more popular in Alaska than any other state as the current stats on the Bearhawk group show more built in Alaska than other states.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-mNd71Bk3I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-mNd71Bk3I)

Floats can be mounted, also  :aok
Title: Re: Who needs helicopters?
Post by: mbailey on August 29, 2011, 05:31:52 PM

Floats can be mounted, also  :aok

Wouldnt that shock the heck outta the Park Rangers over at Lake Nockamixon......... :airplane:
Title: Re: Who needs helicopters?
Post by: VonMessa on August 29, 2011, 05:34:46 PM
Wouldnt that shock the heck outta the Park Rangers over at Lake Nockamixon......... :airplane:

Do not think that the idea hasn't crossed my mind.


Peace Valley would be an option, also  :devil
Title: Re: Who needs helicopters?
Post by: mbailey on August 29, 2011, 05:37:03 PM
Do not think that the idea hasn't crossed my mind.


Peace Valley would be an option, also  :devil

 :rofl......evil mind........ :aok
Title: Re: Who needs helicopters?
Post by: saggs on August 29, 2011, 10:21:52 PM
Awesome!  I could land in the field across the street from my house  :rock

Although not as impressive as the cub in the video, the Bearhawk that I am (slowly) building is not too shabby considering that it is a true 4-place with a 1200 lb. useful load, even with a 0-360 in it  :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux3Uu2JfXVg&playnext=1&list=PL9C6375A724D65E72 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux3Uu2JfXVg&playnext=1&list=PL9C6375A724D65E72)

They also seem to be more popular in Alaska than any other state as the current stats on the Bearhawk group show more built in Alaska than other states.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-mNd71Bk3I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-mNd71Bk3I)

Floats can be mounted, also  :aok

Those Bearhawks are NICE.  Though my new favorite utilitarian kit-plane is the Murphy Moose.  Got to check out an almost complete on a couple weeks ago.  It's pretty much a DH Beaver twin with a IO/O-540 OR a 360hp 9 cylinder Russian radial engine that spins the wrong way.  :airplane:
Title: Re: Who needs helicopters?
Post by: MachFly on August 29, 2011, 10:29:58 PM
Wouldnt that shock the heck outta the Park Rangers over at Lake Nockamixon......... :airplane:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BcJu_5GKXQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BcJu_5GKXQ)  :noid
Title: Re: Who needs helicopters?
Post by: VonMessa on August 30, 2011, 02:29:25 AM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BcJu_5GKXQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BcJu_5GKXQ)  :noid

 :rofl
Title: Re: Who needs helicopters?
Post by: VonMessa on August 30, 2011, 02:37:37 AM
Those Bearhawks are NICE.  Though my new favorite utilitarian kit-plane is the Murphy Moose.  Got to check out an almost complete on a couple weeks ago.  It's pretty much a DH Beaver twin with a IO/O-540 OR a 360hp 9 cylinder Russian radial engine that spins the wrong way.  :airplane:

I was looking at those too, they look nice but I couldn't  scratch-build one.  :cry

I think all the STOL planes are great.