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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: Specs on August 31, 2011, 04:38:29 AM
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Anyone else get "don't move your controls so rapidly" far too often? I never see anyone else complain about it.
Ive always been plagued with it, at least a couple of times a night & always at the worst possible times.
I always thought it was the computer trying to catch up but people always tell me its to stop stik stirring cheats.
I wrote in to Roy & he said it was to simulate the forces on control surfaces at speed & to move the controls slower.
Anyone else making a conscious effort to move thier controls slowly?
I even get it stall fighting where you could slam your controls around as fast & often as possible.
They don't seem to have any trouble simming other slow responses like when one elevator or aileron are missing or slugishness in a very fast dive.
Even as a sim substitute an 8 second time out penalty seems absurdly punitive & misplaced.
Ive reset damping & dead band way above where i want them & got some results but it seems it would happen more to everyone especially new people & i rarely see anyone mention it. It makes the game largely unplayable for me & ruins many a good fight.
Id be happy just to find others who share the problem & maybe find out why.
I am running old gear; P4 with a 512 agp nvidia. Its gone on through three computers & several different sticks.
This is my first post effort so I hope I'm in the right spot & doing it correctly
Thanks for the listen,
Specs
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Try calibrating your stick in AH, usually helps.
Open the clipboard, go to "options", then "controls", and click on "calibrate joystick".
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Anyone else get "don't move your controls so rapidly" far too often? I never see anyone else complain about it.
Ive always been plagued with it, at least a couple of times a night & always at the worst possible times.
I always thought it was the computer trying to catch up but people always tell me its to stop stik stirring cheats.
I wrote in to Roy & he said it was to simulate the forces on control surfaces at speed & to move the controls slower.
Anyone else making a conscious effort to move thier controls slowly?
I even get it stall fighting where you could slam your controls around as fast & often as possible.
They don't seem to have any trouble simming other slow responses like when one elevator or aileron are missing or sluggishness in a very fast dive.
Even as a sim substitute an 8 second time out penalty seems absurdly punitive & misplaced.
Ive reset damping & dead band way above where i want them & got some results but it seems it would happen more to everyone especially new people & i rarely see anyone mention it. It makes the game largely unplayable for me & ruins many a good fight.
Id be happy just to find others who share the problem & maybe find out why.
I am running old gear; P4 with a 512 agp nvidia. Its gone on through three computers & several different sticks.
This is my first post effort so I hope I'm in the right spot & doing it correctly
Thanks for the listen,
Specs
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Try calibrating your stick in AH, usually helps.
Open the clipboard, go to "options", then "controls", and click on "calibrate joystick".
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For other people who post here, Specs already make the same thread in the Technical Support forum, let's use that one. http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,319494.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,319494.0.html)
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First make sure that you have your stick calibrated correctly in Windows and then you'll need to calibrate it twice in AH. In AH, if you click on the clipboard --> options --> controls --> map controllers. In that section, click on the axis for your controls and then click on the "Calibrate Axis" button and follow the instructions. Do this for each axis assigned to your controllers. Now the axis are properly calibrated. Next, time to calibrate your joystick. Bring up the clipboard again, go to options --> controls --> calibrate joystick.
Your controllers should now be properly calibrated. If you still receive that error message, it's time to start looking at the controllers themselves as the potential cause. It is possible that you may need to use an external powered USB hub to ensure that the proper voltage (5 volts), otherwise you may experience what you're currently experiencing. Another possible cause could be that the potentiometers are going south on you and you need to replace them or get a new stick.
What kind of stick are you using?
ack-ack
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Adjust Deadband + Damping.
:cheers: Oz
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Try calibrating your stick in AH, usually helps.
Open the clipboard, go to "options", then "controls", and click on "calibrate joystick".
This helps me. I get that message about once a night if I forget to calibrate in game. After I calibrate, no problems.
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I used to hate that message but I understand the reasons for it. HTC adjusted the code so it doesn't happen close to stall speed which was helpful. Deadband won't make any difference but you can usually get rid of it with damping if your stick is calibrated and isn't spiking. The issue with damping, as you noticed, is that it makes the stick response seem mushy so your best bet is to follow Skuzzy's advice and make it a habit to move the stick and rudder control slower.
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When I used cheap sticks like logitec I had that message frequently as the stick wore out. Burnt through a few until I upgraded to a CH Combatstick. That solved the issue for me. :D
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I'm pretty sure you can get that while sitting on the runway. Just wiggle the controls around quickly. It doesn't seem to me to be airspeed related, only how fast you move your controls around.
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I'm pretty sure you can get that while sitting on the runway. Just wiggle the controls around quickly. It doesn't seem to me to be airspeed related, only how fast you move your controls around.
It used to be like that but it was changed to a percentage of stall speed in response to a wishlist request.
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Ah, cool; good to know.
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It used to be like that but it was changed to a percentage of stall speed in response to a wishlist request.
That's great, when did that happen?
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It was changed a couple of years ago. :joystick:
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It was changed a couple of years ago. :joystick:
Hmm, I guess I didn't get the memo.
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I calibrate often in windows(nightly for good luck)
but not so much in game& never through the 3 axis & then again in game isnt that redundant? I'll try it though.
Could you give me a little primer on why to do it both ways?
& how often should you have to do all of that
Its a logicrap 3d pro. 3nd one counting a used one.
For Long years I had a ms precision pro & same thing.
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I just did the full calibration & right off the deck at 130 or so gave it a quick full left & right. Same old thing.
I reset damping & it seemed some better. Ill give it a few hours & see how it goes.
This stick is cheap but less than a week old. I think many people use them for that reason so if thats it the boards would be full of it.
I appreciate your thoughts. I guess its just my own personal demon.
Thanks
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I calibrate often in windows(nightly for good luck)
but not so much in game& never through the 3 axis & then again in game isnt that redundant? I'll try it though.
Could you give me a little primer on why to do it both ways?
& how often should you have to do all of that
Its a logicrap 3d pro. 3nd one counting a used one.
For Long years I had a ms precision pro & same thing.
---------------------later---
I just did the full calibration & right off the deck at 130 or so gave it a quick full left & right. Same old thing.
I reset damping & it seemed some better. Ill give it a few hours & see how it goes.
This stick is cheap but less than a week old. I think many people use them for that reason so if thats it the boards would be full of it.
I appreciate your thoughts. I guess its just my own personal demon.
Thanks
the damping was what got rid of it for me....just a bit and I was good to go...with a cheaper stick you may not be able to get rid of it completely, at that point its up to you to change the way you handle your stick, by being less "ham fisted" when I first heard that I had no clue as to what the hell it meant....but it means "rough" "jerky" "not smooth" "too fast" a smooth movement timed right is far more potent....the least amount of stick movement that is called for is what you want, by controlling it like this you conserve E better, and are forced to learn to time your move, this is very important to winning an engagement, timing not enough people talk about this, timing is everything.....if you only move your stick at the TIME it needs to be moved you will never get that message....a smooth controlled movement timed right.
think on this
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I agree with ink. It sounds Like your just too heavy on the stick. Have you ever heard the phrase, "smooth is fast"? You don't want to jerk your stick around ever. The smoother you move your stick the better you conserve your energy.
When I started hee I had the damping turned way up because I was so heavy on the stick. It took awhile, but now I only have a bit of damping in my rudder. All the rest is gone due to how much smoother I am on the stick.