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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: CAP1 on September 08, 2011, 10:31:50 PM
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ok...i think most of you know i still run dsl. i tried opening the game tonight, in order to see if i loaded some offline missions properly.....it wouldn't open. said something about failing with a -9, and something else.
anyway, i didn't sweat it, as i needed to update anyway.....it's downloading right now. problem is i thought the last full download was faster. it's showing only 121 kb/second on the download.
this seems awfully slow, even for dsl. any of you know what it should be? or how i can differentiate between my router, ethernet card, or modem being the cause of a slow down? or possibly verizon's slowed my connection speed down?
i know about the internet speed tests, but how do i tell what the bottleneck is?
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cap i have the same question. put it in the hardware and software forum. more people look there. I'll try to do it and post some pics too.
semp
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cap i have the same question. put it in the hardware and software forum. more people look there. I'll try to do it and post some pics too.
semp
Easiest thing to do is run a ping plot to see of there are any network issues.
If not, I'd bypass the router entirely and see if that perks things up.
If that doesn't help there are a bunch of things that could be causing it...
If that helps then put the router back in and try again just to make sure it wasn't an anomaly. If it gets slow again, I'd start removing computers, game consoles, etc. from the network to see if maybe one of them was the bandwidth hog. I have seen one malware infected computer bring a home network to its knees. Also, your router can tell you what's connected to it, make sure they are all yours and not some thieving neighbor.
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Unplug your modem and router for ten seconds, then run a ping test check your firewall. This will let you know if its your connection this usually works for me. Good luck.
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Easiest thing to do is run a ping plot to see of there are any network issues.
If not, I'd bypass the router entirely and see if that perks things up.
If that doesn't help there are a bunch of things that could be causing it...
If that helps then put the router back in and try again just to make sure it wasn't an anomaly. If it gets slow again, I'd start removing computers, game consoles, etc. from the network to see if maybe one of them was the bandwidth hog. I have seen one malware infected computer bring a home network to its knees. Also, your router can tell you what's connected to it, make sure they are all yours and not some thieving neighbor.
thanks!
i should've thought of bypassing the router. i'll try that tonight. i don't have a wireless router, but rather a 4 or so year old lynksys wired router. there are 2 computers in the same room hooked to it, and a cable running to the office, which mom uses her laptop on when she's up here. she wasn't here when this happened.
thinking of maleware, i haven't scanned the 2nd puter in forever.......
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also........how do you run a ping check? i've only ever done the "speed tests" that verizon or a couple other companies offer?
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http://download.cnet.com/Ping-Plotter-Freeware/3000-2085_4-10021963.html
download
install
I forget the ip address of HTC servers
see the results. If you have a bad hop somewhere it will show up :)
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Do the ping Plot it will pretty much show you the culprit. Do it at different times of the day also.
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Easiest thing to do is run a ping plot to see of there are any network issues.
If not, I'd bypass the router entirely and see if that perks things up.
If that doesn't help there are a bunch of things that could be causing it...
If that helps then put the router back in and try again just to make sure it wasn't an anomaly. If it gets slow again, I'd start removing computers, game consoles, etc. from the network to see if maybe one of them was the bandwidth hog. I have seen one malware infected computer bring a home network to its knees. Also, your router can tell you what's connected to it, make sure they are all yours and not some thieving neighbor.
actually what i was referring to is for example my cable internet says i can d/l at 28mbps using speedtest.net. but whenever I actually d/l anything from different sites, the best I get is 1.2.
semp
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actually what i was referring to is for example my cable internet says i can d/l at 28mbps using speedtest.net. but whenever I actually d/l anything from different sites, the best I get is 1.2.
semp
different numbers for me, seeing as dsl is slower....but i've noticed that too.
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cap the main ah download link is slow anyway...i just tried it from my office and it was barely doing 244kbps, the "alternate link" is nearly 400kbps and my office network has a 1000x bigger pipe than your dsl. try the alternate download link, it's usually faster.
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cap the main ah download link is slow anyway...i just tried it from my office and it was barely doing 244kbps, the "alternate link" is nearly 400kbps and my office network has a 1000x bigger pipe than your dsl. try the alternate download link, it's usually faster.
i would've never thought of that. thanks!!!
i wanna get into the offline missions, then back into the arenas. i need to give some of those ava guys an easy target again. :devil
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If you know the IP address of your destination, you can also run a traceroute to see if any hops are timing out or showing high latency. To do this, go to- (Start>type "cmd" in the search box>open the cmd window>at the prompt, type "tracert(space)(IP address of your destination). Then hit enter. It'll show hops and ping times to your destination.
Mine looks like this when typed to ping the LW server:
C:\users\Joe>tracert 206.16.60.41
That'll show ya if there's an issue down the line with ping times. You don't want any *'s, timed out hops, or long ping times. This isn't a bandwidth troubleshooting tool, but it does provide some valuable info.
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If you know the IP address of your destination, you can also run a traceroute to see if any hops are timing out or showing high latency. To do this, go to- (Start>type "cmd" in the search box>open the cmd window>at the prompt, type "tracert(space)(IP address of your destination). Then hit enter. It'll show hops and ping times to your destination.
Mine looks like this when typed to ping the LW server:
C:\users\Joe>tracert 206.16.60.41
That'll show ya if there's an issue down the line with ping times. You don't want any *'s, timed out hops, or long ping times. This isn't a bandwidth troubleshooting tool, but it does provide some valuable info.
ok...gonna ask you guys some more now.....'cause i'm stupid when it comes to this stuff. :D
first off, is there an easy way to determine the ip addy of a site? such as photobucket? that is one that gives me fits, although i don't seem to remember it having done this a year or so ago. it seems that if i try to upload more than 1 picture at a time, it "stalls" firefox, forcing me to close it, and restart the session.
second......since you provided the io addy to the late war arenas, i used that addy to try this. here's an image of what it showed me.
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa135/1LTCAP/trace.jpg)
what does all that stuff mean now?
thanks doods!!!!
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sorry cap but, firefox has been a memory leaking, error prone hog since v2.8x. i quit using it after 3.16 or something like that because it was doing the same thing you're describing about photobucket, randomly on other sites. i have friends and co-workers in the tech world who are still having issues with the latest version. the only web browsers i use are i.e. and opera.
your tracert readout shows each switch/router between you and the i.p. address you entered. the connection to each switch router is tested 3 times and the 3 rows of numbers are the response times for each test. i'm surprised to see a 192.xxx private i.p. address in there. you normally see that at the beginning of a traceroute from having a home network router in place.
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sorry cap but, firefox has been a memory leaking, error prone hog since v2.8x. i quit using it after 3.16 or something like that because it was doing the same thing you're describing about photobucket, randomly on other sites. i have friends and co-workers in the tech world who are still having issues with the latest version. the only web browsers i use are i.e. and opera.
your tracert readout shows each switch/router between you and the i.p. address you entered. the connection to each switch router is tested 3 times and the 3 rows of numbers are the response times for each test. i'm surprised to see a 192.xxx private i.p. address in there. you normally see that at the beginning of a traceroute from having a home network router in place.
i hadn't known that about firefox. i'll try it with ie and see what happens.
is it bad that it hit that 192 addy?
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i just tried going into photobucket in ie........the hell with that. it was 10 times worse. guess i just have to find a better place for my pictures.
on that note, i took a video of something for one of my customers today, and tried emailing it to them from the shop. my aol addy is still a paid email account......but it gave me the "message could not be sent, because the attached file exceeds your limit" crap. it was less than a 30 second clip. guess they don't wanna keep me as a paying customer.
hey....gonna add a question to this.
the modem i'm using right now, is a westell wirespeed. i can't find a model number, but it's the one that verizon gave me when i signed up for their dsl service about 7 years ago.
do these things go bad? have they improved enough over the years that i should consider a new one, if i'm gonna stick with dsl?
the router's a linksys befsr41. that is also about 5 years old.
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I dropped verizon because the modem i got 4 years earlier was slow. for about 20 bucks less than verizon i got cable internet. faster than dsl and since me and my gf both had cell phones we also dropped the landline. I first contacted them to upgrade our modem they told me i had to buy one. i went tru their I gonna quit then, they said go ahead, so I did. then they called me and offered me a brand new mode. told them so sorry, i already had a faster internet.
I do have their wireless, but only because my gf gets a 20% discount.
semp
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Equipment can go bad. When I had DSL i also had intermittent issues with the little noise filters I was told to place on all of my phones. The wife once moved some stuff and forgot to put the filter back on, it really messed with my connection.
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actually what i was referring to is for example my cable internet says i can d/l at 28mbps using speedtest.net. but whenever I actually d/l anything from different sites, the best I get is 1.2.
Just as a note here, internet speed is measured in "megabits per second" (properly "Mbps") for advertising purposes, while generally browsers will measure it in "megabytes per second" (properly "MBps"). A byte is made of 8 bits; measuring in bits gives you a nice big number to wave in people's faces in commercials, while the byte measurement gives an easily recognizable representation of how much you're actually downloading in today's world of filesizes.
In this case, downloading at 1.2 MBps is a rate of 9.6 Mbps. Still not what was advertised, but honestly all ISPs have over-sold their networks to the point that advertised speeds are given as a theoretical maximum in an unladen network (lol).
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i just tried going into photobucket in ie........the hell with that. it was 10 times worse. guess i just have to find a better place for my pictures.
on that note, i took a video of something for one of my customers today, and tried emailing it to them from the shop. my aol addy is still a paid email account......but it gave me the "message could not be sent, because the attached file exceeds your limit" crap. it was less than a 30 second clip. guess they don't wanna keep me as a paying customer.
hey....gonna add a question to this.
the modem i'm using right now, is a westell wirespeed. i can't find a model number, but it's the one that verizon gave me when i signed up for their dsl service about 7 years ago.
do these things go bad? have they improved enough over the years that i should consider a new one, if i'm gonna stick with dsl?
the router's a linksys befsr41. that is also about 5 years old.
friends don't let friends use aohell. :D
just the opinion of an old i.t. geek but, photobucket is like myspace and facebook, full of crap that people should not allow their computers to have access to. if you must, then secure your web browser so those ugly scripts running in the background don't put something on your system that you don't want.
try installing the latest version of opera if you want a good safe web browser and there are further steps you can take to make it more secure without killing functionality.
on the modem issue, if the one you have is 7 years old i would look into getting a new one. some standards have been changed that may or may not have been adopted by your isp. if your isp provided the one you have, they should be willing to replace it with a newer model.
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most people never think to check for new firmware updates for their cable/dsl modems or routers
I recommend people first go to the following site and check their home network / router if they are using one, to see how secure they have the router set up:
Gibson Research corp's Shields Up test Link: https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2 <--- read the different links and what they check, very informative
Gibson Research corp's Router Leak test Link: http://www.grc.com/lt/leaktest.htm <---- not necessary unless your router is not truly secure and it is showing your individual PC's behind the router
other cool items to check out on GRC's home page: https://www.grc.com/default.htm ( <----- if you are interested after you done testing everything else )
next you need to get pingplotter standard ( this version is free )
download link: http://www.pingplotter.com/downloads/pngplt_std.exe
pingplotter help~info link: http://www.pingplotter.com/gsg/ <---- PingPlotter's "Getting Started Guide" Website
you need to run your ping plot test to these ip addresses for Aces High's Online arenas:
the server IP addresses, to be used for traces/ping plots.
Axis vs Allies, Dueling, Early, Mid: 206.16.60.39
All WW1 Dogfight Arenas, Training, Late War: 206.16.60.41
Special Events: 206.16.60.38
Custom Arenas: 96.226.224.166
and read ---> Skuzzy's Internet Connection Hints/Tips Thread Link: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,68316.0.html
next, I recommend going to this internet speed test site to check your "TRUE" download/upload bandwidth/speed :
http://testmy.net/ <--- register on this site for free and then you will be ale to do tests and it will keep archives on your tests and you can run test for long periods of time like 3 hrs, 20 hrs, 48 hrs etc.......
you can cross check your results from the above test site with the likes of dslreports.com or speedtest.net or speakeasy.net etc.......... you will more than likely see that these test sites will report very much higher speeds than the http://testmy.net/ test site
if you decide you might want to go and buy a new Router, I can highly recommend D-Link's DGL-4500 Xtreme N Gaming Router,
and if you decide to upgrade to a newer modem I can highly recommend the MOTOROLA SB6120 Cable Modem SURFboard <---- note this may not work for DSL users
I have had wonderful experiences with these 2 items since I upgraded recently.........
( and I am glad someone finally mentioned firefox's memory leak problems, which last word I read on it is the leak will not be fixed until around version 8.0, I believe ... , if one would setup their IE8.0 or IE 9.0 correctly and not load it down with add-on's, they would find that it is one of the most if not the most secure browser out there as long as you keep your MS updates...... up to date...... <---- I kind of hate typing that because I don't like MS really.... but it is the truth..... IE 9 is the most secure browser out there at the moment going by all the reviews/reports lately )
hope this helps & good luck
TC
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I'LL CHECK INTO THAT.
oops...caps lock...
anyway/.////i've also noticed, looking on the web, that most dsl modems have a router built into them now. this is good or bad to have? which brands are better? also, what are the "N" routers?
thanks doods!!
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ahem, far be it from me to argue with tc about some things but...i wouldn't touch a d-link router with a 50 foot pole. i'm nowhere near being a hacker but, i was able to crack into 3 different d-link "g" routers fairly easily which put me off them completely. for the average person, ease of use is their main selling point, security has not been. a simple google search for d-link router exploits shows a lot of stuff as of 2010.
i'm guessing since tc recommended those links from grc.com that the d-link router he has is as secure as it can be. i use a linksys wrt-610n without any mods and some advanced settings, it's secured.
i would advise against buying a modem with a built in router, although it's more expensive to buy a router separately, you have better functionality and security.
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i'm guessing since tc recommended those links from grc.com that the d-link router he has is as secure as it can be.
i would advise against buying a modem with a built in router, although it's more expensive to buy a router separately, you have better functionality and security.
when testing my ip, it says nothing exists at this location........ is like a dead end or just leads to nowhere..... no visible ports
I wouldn't argue with you, gyrene...heh.... we simply have a difference of opinion...... out of the first (2) Linksys routers I started out with, I dumped them for a netgear, then went D-Link
and have stayed with D-Link for quiet a few years now
their are some bad D-Link models out there that I would steer clear of for sure, but that probably could be said for all brands no matter if we are talking about routers or even modems
I also am in agreement of if possible stay away from any combo router/modem and use dedicated devices.......
TC
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i'm glad i asked first.....in my nieveness, i was thinking how great of an idea it would be to have both in a single unit.
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GONN hijack my own thread here.
work puter was acting funny. it's running xp, although i don't know what service pack. i hadn't scanned it with anything in a loooong while, so i updated superantispyware, and ran it.
over 300 cookies...they're gone. the kicker was a trojan. it said "unknown" source. it was at:
c:\documents and settings\user\local settings\temporary internet files\content.ie5\gi9ihnpv\navcancl[1]
the funny thing is i don't use ie on this computer at all. i never open it.
then when i rebooted after the quarintine/removal, now the link in the start menu had trouble finding my invoicing program. it found one it said was similar, and asked if i wanted that to point there...i clicked yes, and it opened the program.
all seems kinda weird......