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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: ACE on September 21, 2011, 07:30:58 AM
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Do you guys think this really should have won the vote to be in the game?
I never see it in game so maybe I'm delirious.
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nope.
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this is what the children wanted. this is what we got. :aok
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I thought everyone was done whining about the b29.
Guess not.
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The B-29 is a flash-bang, fireworks. It can only be used as the B29 and can not be substituted for anything else.
imo, the He111, Pe-2, Tu-2, D520, etc etc etc would have better choices. But....
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this is what the children wanted. this is what we got. :aok
Agreed. They've wanted it for years. Maybe decades.
I think they never anticipated that WWII America's second-most-expensive-weapon would be expensive in AH.
- oldman
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I think they never anticipated that WWII America's second-most-expensive-weapon would be expensive in AH.
QFT
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I like flying the B29 and I don't really mind losing one or all of my formation to interceptors. The only exception to that is when a con follows me for 10 sectors and deep into my friendly territory with absolutly no intention to rtb; all they want is at least one B29 kill and then they don't care if they make it back or are killed or captured. The perks are worth it to them. It is kind of the opposite of bomb and bailing but still just as lame in my book.
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I thought everyone was done whining about the b29.
Guess not.
No whine here bud. Just pointing out what I saw.
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I suspect that the only way an American unit would not win a vote is if it were something that would utterly suck in the MA such as a TBD Devastator or F2A3 Buffalo.
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Do you guys think this really should have won the vote to be in the game?
I never see it in game so maybe I'm delirious.
In a nutshell: I never voted for it, not once. Knew it would be perked, knew it would rarely see use in the MA and when it did it rarely would be below 30k and over enemy territories. That isn't to say I object to its intorduction or HTC's efforts invested into it, rather it be here than not.
zThat zSaid - zWhere's zOur 410? :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry *sucks on his thumb*
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The only thing I enjoy about the B29 is getting three of them and dropping 240 bombs on a city. Approx 24,000 Lbs of bombs, which is 12 tons, in a vastly spread salvo of .5, very nice for taking out A LOT. However, it's not really needed, it's more of a bomb wh*re.
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nobody uses the b29 because "itz got an insanez p3rks nomb3r!!!!"
now do all the people that wanted the b29 think its cool because of its price? (costs around 400+ perks for a formation :rolleyes:)
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I like flying the B29 and I don't really mind losing one or all of my formation to interceptors. The only exception to that is when a con follows me for 10 sectors and deep into my friendly territory with absolutly no intention to rtb; all they want is at least one B29 kill and then they don't care if they make it back or are killed or captured. The perks are worth it to them. It is kind of the opposite of bomb and bailing but still just as lame in my book.
Lame? Maybe he doesn't mind losing his interceptor to your B-29. Why shouldn't he risk it all for a B-29 kill? It is the biggest, baddest and most perked bomber in the game. Killing a rare, high-value target like that is far better than a kill on any other bomber. It is quite a challenge to defeat such a fast and heavily defended bomber - one that the enemy pilot will do anything in his power to stop you.
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Do you guys think this really should have won the vote to be in the game?
I never see it in game so maybe I'm delirious.
Should have won? That's a weird question. It got the most votes so I guess, sure, it should have won.
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Should have won? That's a weird question. It got the most votes so I guess, sure, it should have won.
You missed my point entirely.
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You missed my point entirely.
Entirely on purpose... sorta of entirely.
What do you mean?
Was it right for the game?
Did another deserve it more?
Is it worth the perk?
Or did you leave it open for interpretation?
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Entirely on purpose... sorta of entirely.
What do you mean?
Was it right for the game?
Did another deserve it more?
Is it worth the perk?
Or did you leave it open for interpretation?
I kinda wanted you to give your opinion on it. How do you like it ?
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Entirely on purpose... sorta of entirely.
What do you mean?
Was it right for the game?
Did another deserve it more?
Is it worth the perk?
Or did you leave it open for interpretation?
Sure. It had to be added at some point. The bomber guys now have their big toy like the fighter guys had the Me262 for a long time.
I voted for the Me410, but I accept that the B-29 won.
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I kinda wanted you to give your opinion on it. How do you like it ?
As a bomber guy (full disclosure, not currently playing the game), I voted the B-29 all the way through. However, I loved the B-29 when I was using it. It was expensive, added a little more danger to your missions, definitely forced you to fly them high. My problem was never with the bomber, or with the perk price, but with targets to hit.
I had hoped that with the B-29 would soon come a redesign of the strat system. Unfortunately, nothing ever came, and it was just not worth the time to take a B-29 up to 30k to hit city strat. I still hope strat will be changed in a way that might make the B-29 a little more relevant, but I haven't heard anything that points to that. I don't regret my vote for the B-29, but I hope there are changes relatively soon.
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Lame? Maybe he doesn't mind losing his interceptor to your B-29. Why shouldn't he risk it all for a B-29 kill? It is the biggest, baddest and most perked bomber in the game. Killing a rare, high-value target like that is far better than a kill on any other bomber. It is quite a challenge to defeat such a fast and heavily defended bomber - one that the enemy pilot will do anything in his power to stop you.
I'm not saying they shouldn't "risk it all" for the kill, especially on a something like the B29. What I don't like is the ones who have no intention of ever RTBing the sortie. Personally, when I up a plane I do it with the intention to bring it back. The players who follow a set of B29s so deep into enemy territory that they won't have the fuel to even get back to friendly territory, just so they can possibly get at least 1 kill before they scurry away are just as lame as the players who bomb a target then bail before an enemy gets within the proxy range, or the players who auger their plane into a hangar just to make sure their jabo attack actually hits. But hey, everybody pays to play their own way right? and everybody is entitled to their opinions of that play. So yeah the situation I described above, lame IMO. (<<<does the IMO disclaimer help?)
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Sure. It had to be added at some point. The bomber guys now have their big toy like the fighter guys had the Me262 for a long time.
I voted for the Me410, but I accept that the B-29 won.
I think many of us accepted it... now where's our 410!?
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I think many of us accepted it... now where's our 410!?
Well, the B-29 winning didn't annoy me. If the A-26 had won I would have been annoyed.
The people voting for the B-29 knew they were asking for a heavy bomber. I am willing to bet most people voting for the A-26 thought they were voting for a big fighter and intended to use it as a fighter, not an attack aircraft.
The thing is, if another vote is held and the A-26 is on the list they may as well not hold the vote and just have done with it and add the A-26. The P-61 is in that category too, though at least it really is a heavy fighter. I'd not be surprised if the SB2C Helldiver or PBY-5 Catalina would triumph over any non-US aircraft as well, though it would be closer.
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Certainly did not become the game changer that people predicted & decided to leave the game over :headscratch: Supposedly left. :D
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Certainly did not become the game changer that people predicted & decided to leave the game over :headscratch: Supposedly left. :D
I could never understand how people thought it would be a massive game changer. There is nothing in AH that bombers are really good for. You're better off using heavy Bf110G-2s or heavy P-38Ls than bombers. They get the only required ground attack job done much faster and can fight afterward.
I prefer the Mosquito Mk XVI as a bomber, to be honest. I know I am biased in favor of Mossie's, but I honestly think it is a better tool in AH.
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(http://airmodeller.tripod.com/FS/GrMe410.jpg)
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Krup have you heard about that ambedextrious pitcher that the yankees got from High School? He throws high 90s with both arms!
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Democracy sucks, the peasants are revolting :P
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Certainly did not become the game changer that people predicted & decided to leave the game over :headscratch: Supposedly left. :D
It basicallt became what most of us, at least those with sense, were predicting it would be. A heavily perked bomber that wouldnt change any game. I wasnt around when it was introduced, in fact I still havnt flown the thing. But I still remember the cries of "NO NUKES" that always accompanied any B-29 thread as if the plane and A-bomb were linked by a tether and you couldnt have one without the other.
The whole thing was silly. If perk prices control other airplane numbers then why wouldnt it control B-29s too? If anything it was introduced a couple of years to late. Maybe we'd have more bomers squads left if it came earlier.
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I remember some people whine that the B-29 will ruin the game and people will milk-run the bases consistently. That does not appear to be true now.
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Actually B29 is used quite often - the catch is they're always 30K+ :D
And especially in my case I tend to be floating around 45-48K with my B29's - but thats usually known when I lite up Channel 200 telling my position daring anyone to come get me :devil
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Actually B29 is used quite often - the catch is they're always 30K+ :D
And especially in my case I tend to be floating around 45-48K with my B29's - but thats usually known when I lite up Channel 200 telling my position daring anyone to come get me :devil
If thats fun for you, flying 2-3 hours alone... i rather go diggin.
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By the last round of voting I decided to vote for whatever was running against the B29. Me410 still lost...
I went in voting for the A26
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For those who like to fly the B29 or anybody who just wants to try it out. The AvA setup is going to use B29s this week, so free B29s for anybody who wants them. No need to protect your perks with high alt, and one of the bases with the B29 enabled will have air starts so no long boring climb either. The message of the day for the arena should detail which airbases have the B29 for use, plus there is no wait for side switching so fly'em, kill'em or both.
/end hijack
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I postcount postcount postcount postcount postcount postcount postcount B29.
Guess postcount.
Fixed :devil
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Fixed :devil
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i can tell that this is going to turn into a purse fight because of that... :uhoh not to mention you probably "fixed" that for your own post-count aswell.
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Fixed :devil
:furious
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LOL sorry. I'm just mad that AH is closed down :furious :furious :mad: :mad: :mad: and one of the best evenings for flyin is goin down the tubes.
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I wanted the B29. I voted for it. I flew it once. Its there if I ever want to fly it again. WIN/WIN :cheers:
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"I remember some people whine that the B-29 will ruin the game and people will milk-run the bases consistently. That does not appear to be true now."
I remember that some people said it will be perked so high it will rarely be seen and if it is seen it is seen so high and fast you will not catch it. That appears to be true now.
"I wanted the B29. I voted for it. I flew it once. Its there if I ever want to fly it again. WIN/WIN"
I rest my case. Clearly something HTC did well to spend lots of time to implement. :bhead
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I don't see what the problem is. HTC spent time on a bomber that can be used if wanted to. Rather than other hangar queens that noone else dare flies.
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I don't see what the problem is. HTC spent time on a bomber that can be used if wanted to. Rather than other hangar queens that noone else dare flies.
It's only because the B-25c's have no tail gun is the only reason I don't fly them.
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I remember the drama whenever the B-29 was brought up and the Biblical predictions of doom that would follow. Horror stories of nuked bases, no HQ ever being safe, shrieks of "im quitting if", and mostly by those you couldnt get out of LW fighter rides if you bribed them. Who never flew bombers anyway.
So finnaly it came and had almost no impact. Less even then the perked fighter rides. Had it been brought in sooner maybe some of those bomber squads would still be around and the ones still left would have more then 3 members.
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I remember the drama whenever the B-29 was brought up and the Biblical predictions of doom that would follow. Horror stories of nuked bases, no HQ ever being safe, shrieks of "im quitting if", and mostly by those you couldnt get out of LW fighter rides if you bribed them. Who never flew bombers anyway.
So finnaly it came and had almost no impact. Less even then the perked fighter rides. Had it been brought in sooner maybe some of those bomber squads would still be around and the ones still left would have more then 3 members.
Those discussions implicitly assumed that the B-29 would be easily available. If you could grab a B-29 formation today, without risking perks, those predictions might well have come true.
- oldman
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Those discussions implicitly assumed that the B-29 would be easily available. If you could grab a B-29 formation today, without risking perks, those predictions might well have come true.
- oldman
Possibly, but it was just as silly to assume the B-29 would not be moderately or highly perked.
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I didn't vote for it...still want the Ki-43 :D
But I like the B-29, HTC did a great job on it, and it fits a nice role as a high end perked bomber.
Its there, fly it if you wish. If not, move on.
Ki-43 :pray
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B29 was implemented very well by HTC.
Was there ever a 20x1000 loadout?
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410? :headscratch: :uhoh :pray :cry
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Sometime after it's introduction, a Nit or Rook launched some massive 29 runs maybe one a week for a bit at 30K. We bish tried to intercept. Was great fun.