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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Nathan60 on September 22, 2011, 08:39:19 AM
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Is it possible at some point to make bridges destructable so we can affect resupply of a base, also it would be nice to have more factories spread out instead of just the current strat. Also i as someone suggested be fore fuel/ammo dumps that support the bases around them. Dont make these front line dumps too important but have them effect nearby bases fuel/ord supply. And the factories effect the dumps. The more factories/dumps you have the faster your feilds resup.
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I for one support this idea, but since nobody will bother defending these targets, they will be seen as "toolshedding" and reviled by those who disapprove of such things.
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I for one support this idea, but since nobody will bother defending these targets, they will be seen as "toolshedding" and reviled by those who disapprove of such things.
If the buff supply is constant enough I would defend them :D
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what is wrong with just killing the hangars on a base or perhaps god forbid vulch the crap out of it. hangar respawns, kill it again.
the old factories only served the purpose of score hording :). now we just kill towns :).
semp
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Sure... I'll agree with that once the strats are actually worth killing
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I like the idea of more things to blow up. I don't care if they don't have any strategic value, sometimes you just want to blow up virtual stuff. :devil
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I like the idea of killing stuff, but it's that killing a bridge to stop trucks/train is just being lazy. kill the train/trucks themselves.
killing bridges is like asking people to spawn and not move so you can get an easier kill.
semp
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I like the idea of killing stuff, but it's that killing a bridge to stop trucks/train is just being lazy. kill the train/trucks themselves.
killing bridges is like asking people to spawn and not move so you can get an easier kill.
semp
Very simple Semp basically i'm asking to be able to use attack planes for something other than deacking the same aa guns or popin dar . what I'm suggesting is another way to get back to the small fights more spread out on the map that you claim to love back in the day as opposed to the same horde over the same bases day in and day out. If you have small grups cruising around the maps looking for bridges to blow and factories/supply dumps that are more sperad out,ou will give more people the chance play the game as they would like to. Also Im not suggestting to get rid of the strat system as is,but to incorperate the small factories./dumps/ bridges convoys and barges as well into the whole strat system. The otherday we upped that Bomber mission against the rook strats we took thier fueldown to 31% 10 mins later it was back to 100% that to me is indicative of a broken system. The morre bridges and factories down the slower eiter bases resup or the strats resup. If you are satisfiesd with the same stale fights thats fine but dont argue againt makeing the game better for others just for the sake of the argument. You naysayer :devil The bridge example you gave back is lazy, bridges leading into towns and such are good targets and by having move conyoys that means more ways of supplying a town and more things to defend/attack which means more fights.
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:bhead
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Very simple Semp basically i'm asking to be able to use attack planes for something other than deacking the same aa guns or popin dar . what I'm suggesting is another way to get back to the small fights more spread out on the map that you claim to love back in the day as opposed to the same horde over the same bases day in and day out. If you have small grups cruising around the maps looking for bridges to blow and factories/supply dumps that are more sperad out,ou will give more people the chance play the game as they would like to. Also Im not suggestting to get rid of the strat system as is,but to incorperate the small factories./dumps/ bridges convoys and barges as well into the whole strat system. The otherday we upped that Bomber mission against the rook strats we took thier fulelown to 31% 10 mins later it was back to 100% that to me is indicative of a broken system. The morre bridges and factories down the slower eiter bases resup or the strats resup. If you are satisfiesd with the same stale fights thats fine but dont argue againt makeing the game better for others just for the sake of the argument. You naysayer :devil
you do understand that if you were to lower a countries fuel to let's say 25% or even 50% it will create a mass exodus to the other country due to the fact that a lot of the fighters players use will be so affected that you would just fly around your base for a few minutes then running your tank dry.
this my friend is not making the game better. it makes it worst.
but if you think flying around blowing up bridges will create a fight, imagine what would happen if you actually hit a town or two.
semp
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you do understand that if you were to lower a countries fuel to let's say 25% or even 50% it will create a mass exodus to the other country due to the fact that a lot of the fighters players use will be so affected that you would just fly around your base for a few minutes then running your tank dry.
this my friend is not making the game better. it makes it worst.
but if you think flying around blowing up bridges will create a fight, imagine what would happen if you actually hit a town or two.
semp
OK so you have a problem with the side switchers not with what I suggest? Ive bombed enough town s and for what I dont want to do milk run I could care less about bombing towns the fact that you think its actually worth the time to bomb a town if were not trying to take it worries me. About the side switchers maybe if we imposed a system that would cut down on switching sides it would help 12 hrs maybe? Yes peopel will still switch but what im doing by suggesting this Semp is actually coming up with Ideas instead of just naysaying something how about you suggest an aloternate idea of your own other than suggesting to milkrun town which is a symptom of the problem in the 1st place?
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OK so you have a problem with the side switchers not with what I suggest? Ive bombed enough town s and for what I dont want to do milk run I could care less about bombing towns the fact that you think its actually worth the time to bomb a town if were not trying to take it worries me. About the side switchers maybe if we imposed a system that would cut down on switching sides it would help 12 hrs maybe? Yes peopel will still switch but what im doing by suggesting this Semp is actually coming up with Ideas instead of just naysaying something how about you suggest an aloternate idea of your own other than suggesting to milkrun town which is a symptom of the problem in the 1st place?
lol no matter how you put it, bombing strats, towns, bridges, or whatever is just milk running. having a bunch of your friends just fly around bombing bridges is not any different that just flying around bombing towns or bases or whatever. you may think it's a different aspect but it's not.
and read my reply again. I dont have a problem with side switchers when the fuel is being limited in one country. I would either switch or log. which is the only two options.
semp
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and as I said you can keep your same ole same ole I would like to be able to immerse myself in an aoe run on a fuel supply or factory that doesnt involve flying at 47 trillion feet. I dont think It would kill the game just give more like me the chance to play as we would like to instead of hordes that feel that flying 2 sectors is too long/far as I have seen/heard you say yourself
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Fuel resupply trains & tanker truck which blow up in a fire ball & actually effect fuel at a base if fuel tanks are down. :old:
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CV resupply convoys.... *cough cough*
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I like the idea of more things to blow up. I don't care if they don't have any strategic value, sometimes you just want to blow up virtual stuff. :devil
Exactly! Tired of everything be so centralised. Give me something other than the same flak gun/ord bunker/fh to blow up and for those that want more smaller fights spread out across the map Im betting this kinda thinng would promote that aswell.
Motivation for such a set up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t8nlIaQJaI&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PLE8FE31403E47930C (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t8nlIaQJaI&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PLE8FE31403E47930C)
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I think it wouldn`t hurt to be able to blow up the building that the convoy comes out of.Maybe add 5 more minutes to the time it resupplies a base.So it be 20 min instead of 15 min.Maybe be able to resuppy it with 2 runs?Be something else for us tankers to defend.Also bring back the old factory set up.New way might as well not even be included in the game.Absolutely pointless to bomb it,as it is now.
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What building does the convys come out from? As is now I kinda circle bases under attack looking for convoys to attack. I gotta say those thhoes drivers are pretty good not slowing down to make some of the curves/turns they do. Crusiing along at about 80
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you do understand that if you were to lower a countries fuel to let's say 25% or even 50% it will create a mass exodus to the other country due to the fact that a lot of the fighters players use will be so affected that you would just fly around your base for a few minutes then running your tank dry.
Oh no! The Xbox aspect will be taken out of the game! If only we had a transport plane that could somehow resupply!
Wait, I know! Lets all cry while we sit here in the FH waiting for fuel to pop back up.
:devil
If porking fuel made just one person whine like that, it makes me want to spend the perks on 3x B-29 and spend all day dropping fuel depots for kicks and giggles
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If the buff supply is constant enough I would defend them :D
:aok Sounds good :D
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Take a look at this weeks AVA, its almost what i would like to see in the MA maybe have the bases resup just at a slower pace as opossed to needing to be re supped by players so it not too tough for those that dont know what feild supplies are for.
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if bases were to resupply slower (which might be a good idea?) Then I wonder if that would make the supply trucks go slower? Shooting at those in a tank is a freakin waste of time.
+1 to slower trucks at the very least
+1000 to a strat system that functions properly. And I do NOT know how to implement this, but I dont see any trains anymore, whacking the HQ is fun for a mission but doesn't do anything terribly useful. (read no real sense of accomplishment) And I dont think I've ever seen anyone bother taking out HQ troops, ammo, AA at all.
<---MK84 wants something else to blow up other than bomb the puppy mills in the town, and bomb an airfield. Perhaps this might mitigate the "hoarding" that I hear so often (although this does not bother me in the least) by giving incentive to attack a strategic target which in turns gives ample time for the opposing force to organize a defense.
my .02 :confused:
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<---MK84 wants something else to blow up other than bomb the puppy mills in the town, and bomb an airfield. Perhaps this might mitigate the "hoarding" that I hear so often (although this does not bother me in the least) by giving incentive to attack a strategic target which in turns gives ample time for the opposing force to organize a defense.
Exactly what I'm feeling also with so many old timers talking about wanting to see smaller figths spread across the map this might be a good way to achieve that. Especially if the fuel/ammo dump that somebody suggested is implemented
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Exactly what I'm feeling also with so many old timers talking about wanting to see smaller figths spread across the map this might be a good way to achieve that. Especially if the fuel/ammo dump that somebody suggested is implemented
I was also thinking about how much fun it would be screaming in head on into a formation of B17's in a FW190 at 30K :t
The Strat Run Making a regular appearance in the skys of AH
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I was also thinking about how much fun it would be screaming in head on into a formation of B17's in a FW190 at 30K :t
The Strat Run Making a regular appearance in the skys of AH
I want my deathstars back too
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would like to hear what those that have been around awhile think of this.
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would like to hear what those that have been around awhile think of this.
they will tell you that the factories spread out thingy, we had it a couple of years ago. and the only fights there was the milking when you took the nearby bases. actually the old factories where nothing more than milk factories.
semp
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They could remodel the Resup Convoy. Make them the supply version of the M3. and throw in a couple M16's for AA escort. Maybe even a Sherman leading the front of the convoy?
Also i'd like the train to have a bit of a remodel. Add more too it. some resup cars, some flatbeds with tanks on them. (Could be t34s), AA cars,and maybe even flatbeds that are transporting aircraft?
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would like to hear what those that have been around awhile think of this. No Semp tho he's always negative
Fixed it. Its not only about the factories its about the convoys, fuel/ammo dumps and the infrastucture as a whole. As it is everything in the game funnels fights into 1 or 2 giant hordetardfests with a few guys doing milk runs.The bombers that do hit the strat have really no effect and they score less than by hitting town centers which as a whoel just smacks of broken system to me(IMO) The game is stale(to me) I would like to be able to immerse myself in other ways in this game, but if its impossible for Hitech to do I can accept that I can go play a single player game for more realistic attack/bomber action and just furball hoardtard it up in the ma and do the race leauge on tuesday.
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Fixed it. Its not only about the factories its about the convoys, fuel/ammo dumps and the infrastucture as a whole. As it is everything in the game funnels fights into 1 or 2 giant hordetardfests with a few guys doing milk runs.The bombers that do hit the strat have really no effect and they score less than by hitting town centers which as a whoel just smacks of broken system to me(IMO) The game is stale(to me) I would like to be able to immerse myself in other ways in this game, but if its impossible for Hitech to do I can accept that I can go play a single player game for more realistic attack/bomber action and just furball hoardtard it up in the ma and do the race leauge on tuesday.
please point me to a game that is more realistic and I'll join you.
semp
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please point me to a game that is more realistic and I'll join you.
semp
As far as online and multiplayer? there is none but you cant tell me that this game is all that it can be. Once again you totally missed the point someone was making Semp. Go back reread with an open mind what I said. I said if they dont think they want/can add in a more realisitc ground attck system I can go find it in a single player game.I'm at work on break so i cant go google the single player games that are available and find which ones have a actually working logistical/strat/infrastructer built into single player campaign but Im guessing by nowew there might be a few.I havent played a flight gameince Aces of the pacific back in the 90's.Why so negative when somene has an idea? Why automaticaly shoot it down with a "Hitec said" or "well, we tried something like this"(when the example you gives is just a small part of what Im talking about). Maybe just maybe having positve THOUGHTFUL critisims would help mold the idea to something the community would like to see adnd possibly hitec would like to implement. I didnt see the old factories but if we did choose to make factories part of a decentralized strat system it wouldnt be much of a milkrun becaus eit would make people have to defend them. The current strat system fails because there is nothing really gained out of bombing a centralized strat that can be resupplied so quickly, and the bomber pilots that do hit it get less score(if they care about this) than they would hitting town centers.
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well, between this and the way the ava is set up this week we might have a beginning to a real system
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,321567.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,321567.0.html)