Even if you dual boot the Mac it isn't going to be all that great
Now now lets be fair now. Modern macs will let you dual boot to windows (if you buy windows 7) and should work just fine for ahi've seen people dual boot a pc with windows 7 sp1 64bit and mac os 10.6 or 10.7, but no dual boots on an intel based mac.
Why would you think so? New Macs are based on same PC hardware like your computer. All you need to do is make sure your Mac has a graphics card that's suitable for gaming - the cheapest models certainly won't.check again, mobo is apple proprietary based on intel standards, they are not off the shelf intel.
check again, mobo is apple proprietary based on intel standards, they are not off the shelf intel.
Just like Acer HP or Dell uses Acer HP or Dell proprietary based on Intel standards, nothing new there. Apple hardware will run win7 better than any off the shelf 'pc' hardware in most cases.ah once again the voice of some knowledge...almost a clue.
ah once again the voice of some knowledge...almost a clue.
unlike apple/mac...acer, hp, dell, ibm, lenovo, toshiba, sony, etc...use the same chipsets that you can find on a retail mobo, the only thing that is proprietary is the bios and the basic architecture (i.e. placement of slots and connectors). i happen to know that without the specific mac hardware drivers included with bootcamp 2.0 or 2.1, windows 7 will not fully function on the mac hardware platform.
First of all windows 7 _will_ function i.e. boot up fine without these drivers.without the bios emulation software, which is the equivalent to pc chipset drivers, windows 7 will not "boot fine". and that sir is because of the apple proprietary architecture.
When you do a normal windows installation, you always need either OEM or hardware manufacturers drivers to be installed. In this case the drivers come with the Mac setup disks instead of motherboard supplier. The only part where the installation does differ is the need to install a hotfix to windows after the first boot.
Why are you so scared of Macs? :)it's disdain, not fear. i was dealing with macs as an end user and support tech for many years before you put on the rosey red apple glasses. the intel hardware platform is nice and all but it's nothing more than an expensive dressed up pc. if
i suspect that was bad luck rather than Apple building wonky boxes.actually, apple has a history of building "wonky boxes". last gen of powermac g5 and imac had units ship out with defective logic board components and power supplies. second gen macbook air had a random capacitor issue that required a full replacement of logic board, memory and cpu. first gen intel imac numerous random issues from bad memory to bad capacitors. apple is just very good at covering it up, even after repeated warranty replacements.
without the bios emulation software, which is the equivalent to pc chipset drivers, windows 7 will not "boot fine". and that sir is because of the apple proprietary architecture.
it's disdain, not fear. i was dealing with macs as an end user and support tech for many years before you put on the rosey red apple glasses. the intel hardware platform is nice and all but it's nothing more than an expensive dressed up pc.
actually, apple has a history of building "wonky boxes". last gen of powermac g5 and imac had units ship out with defective logic board components and power supplies. second gen macbook air had a random capacitor issue that required a full replacement of logic board, memory and cpu. first gen intel imac numerous random issues from bad memory to bad capacitors. apple is just very good at covering it up, even after repeated warranty replacements.
ah once again the voice of some knowledge...almost a clue.
unlike apple/mac...acer, hp, dell, ibm, lenovo, toshiba, sony, etc...use the same chipsets that you can find on a retail mobo, the only thing that is proprietary is the bios and the basic architecture (i.e. placement of slots and connectors). i happen to know that without the specific mac hardware drivers included with bootcamp 2.0 or 2.1, windows 7 will not fully function on the mac hardware platform.
you are a avacado.i would have been the one who setup those dual boot macs for you, and i would have been cussing the entire time. i would rather dual boot windows/linux, it can be troublesome but easier. try a pc that dual boots with apple osx.
I dislike mac's. But in my training lab I had 8 21" Imac's I dual booted into Windows 7 for a security course I teach. I never had an issue. The only criticism I'd level at them is apple don't provide power management drivers, so everything runs at full tit all the time. But apart from that Win7 runs flawlessly on them.
BTW Asus make a lot of Mac's, they also make a lot of HPs and Sony's.
Once you start the setup from bootcamp assitant everything works normally. It makes no difference if it's 'proprietary' or not - it works, period.i can tell you have never attempted to do a dual boot. i have, since os 10.2. want a real headache to tackle? try creating a deployable dual boot image. i don't hate apple systems, i just don't hold them in the high regard that people who just discovered them like yourself do. since the switch to intel hardware architecture and linux based os core they are much more versatile than they used to be. when osx first came out it was a dream compared to the previous operating systems. and it was as buggy as windows 2000 was before sp2, not to mention that a large number of apple applications were rendered obsolete and would not work with osx. some companies that offered multi platform applications didn't even bother reprogramming for osx, at first.
So you had to deal with support of the old power-pc based macs and now have an unbased hatred against the platform. Every car repairman hates the cars they repair, they seem to be broken every day at work :D
Yeah and surely Apple is the only company in history to get faulty hardware components from its suppliers :rolleyes:
A dualboot mac is an excellent and versatile machine like it or not. Would I buy a Mac for gaming? No. PC has much better price/performance ratio. But if I had to buy just 1 laptop for all use, a high-end MBP would be my choice - and most others who ever had the chance to try one.
If I wouldn't have OSX I would have to dualboot to linux then due to my work, windows boxes are just cumbersome and clumsy when dealing with linux servers for example.
i would have been the one who setup those dual boot macs for you, and i would have been cussing the entire time. i would rather dual boot windows/linux, it can be troublesome but easier. try a pc that dual boots with apple osx.
fyi, companies like asus don't make the systems, they make components for the systems. you may find an asus, acer, samsung, hitachi etc...branded parts made to the oem specifications but they don't make the systems.
i can tell you have never attempted to do a dual boot. i have, since os 10.2. want a real headache to tackle? try creating a deployable dual boot image. i don't hate apple systems, i just don't hold them in the high regard that people who just discovered them like yourself do. since the switch to intel hardware architecture and linux based os core they are much more versatile than they used to be. when osx first came out it was a dream compared to the previous operating systems. and it was as buggy as windows 2000 was before sp2, not to mention that a large number of apple applications were rendered obsolete and would not work with osx. some companies that offered multi platform applications didn't even bother reprogramming for osx, at first.
you really should work on the concept of "within context" when reading something. i was addressing haps "wonky boxes" statement, nothing more. on a 1 to 1 basis, macs do have a much lower incidence of hardware failure than pcs.
as a unix systems administrator i work on rhel and hp-ux servers all day long with my windows laptop, i don't find it cumbersome or clumsy in any manner. it's actually quite easy if you have the right applications, not as easy as a linux or mac system can be but easier than it used to be with windows 2000 or apple os 9.
i can tell you have never attempted to do a dual boot. i have, since os 10.2. want a real headache to tackle? try creating a deployable dual boot image.
i don't hate apple systems, i just don't hold them in the high regard that people who just discovered them like yourself do. since the switch to intel hardware architecture and linux based os core they are much more versatile than they used to be. when osx first came out it was a dream compared to the previous operating systems. and it was as buggy as windows 2000 was before sp2, not to mention that a large number of apple applications were rendered obsolete and would not work with osx. some companies that offered multi platform applications didn't even bother reprogramming for osx, at first.
you really should work on the concept of "within context" when reading something. i was addressing haps "wonky boxes" statement, nothing more. on a 1 to 1 basis, macs do have a much lower incidence of hardware failure than pcs.
as a unix systems administrator i work on rhel and hp-ux servers all day long with my windows laptop, i don't find it cumbersome or clumsy in any manner. it's actually quite easy if you have the right applications, not as easy as a linux or mac system can be but easier than it used to be with windows 2000 or apple os 9.
My 10 year old son can do dualboot on Mac. It's that hard. Deployable? Not in the scope of this discussion.the point is you personally have never undertaken the task and as usual you're just parroting what you read somewhere as if you're the hands on expert.
Actually Apple was praised to have the balls to cut backwards compatibility in the way they did, to create a superior end result.not by the companies who were heavily reliant on mac systems, rather than upgrading they had to continue on the older hardware/os past end of life. what is really amazing is microsoft considered doing the same thing when longhorn development got underway, but there would have been insurmountable repercussions. personally, i'm hoping microsoft does follow apple's example in the next operating system.
As a unix administrator I'm surprised you didn't know OSX is based on BSD, not linux.took you a while to find that didn't it? ok, how about i just use the term "nix" to appease you? after all bsd is a unix system very old with a long history, highly stable and highly secure, but it's for the hard core nix users. i'm not that hard core.
i would have been the one who setup those dual boot macs for you, and i would have been cussing the entire time. i would rather dual boot windows/linux, it can be troublesome but easier. try a pc that dual boots with apple osx.
fyi, companies like asus don't make the systems, they make components for the systems. you may find an asus, acer, samsung, hitachi etc...branded parts made to the oem specifications but they don't make the systems.
the point is you personally have never undertaken the task and as usual you're just parroting what you read somewhere as if you're the hands on expert.
not by the companies who were heavily reliant on mac systems, rather than upgrading they had to continue on the older hardware/os past end of life. what is really amazing is microsoft considered doing the same thing when longhorn development got underway, but there would have been insurmountable repercussions. personally, i'm hoping microsoft does follow apple's example in the next operating system.
took you a while to find that didn't it? ok, how about i just use the term "nix" to appease you? after all bsd is a unix system very old with a long history, highly stable and highly secure, but it's for the hard core nix users. i'm not that hard core.
The vast majority of laptops on the market are manufactured by a small handful of Original Design Manufacturers (ODM).
Asus sells to Apple (iBook), Sony, and Samsung.
BTW Asus make a lot of Mac's, they also make a lot of HPs and Sony's.
Asus DO make the systems.
I setup the dual boot systems myself. It was actually incredibly easy. I had them running Win 7, with VMWare player running a Win Server 2k3 host and Win XP host for our lab. I never cussed the mac's once. Before the imac's we used dualboot macbook pro's, same thing, easy as pie to dual boot. So it would appear to me the consistent issue in your problems is the operator. I used the mac to run a 3 day firewall training course. On average I'd run 12 courses per year. So their bootcamp functionality is something I'm quite familiar with.ok...if you say so.