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Title: Discipline your children
Post by: Dichotomy on October 02, 2011, 11:54:35 AM
Because when I have to deal with the little curtain climbers while running to the store for supplies on a Sunday morning this song goes through my head over and over

http://www.youtube.com/user/Yourfavoritemartian#p/u/0/TUmJDVRDRTQ
Title: Re: Discipline your children
Post by: M0nkey_Man on October 02, 2011, 12:08:32 PM
 :rofl
Title: Re: Discipline your children
Post by: skorpion on October 02, 2011, 03:48:58 PM
:rofl
Title: Re: Discipline your children
Post by: gyrene81 on October 02, 2011, 03:58:32 PM
AHAHAHAH!!! that's sooo perfect!!!  :rofl


waiting on the penguinism...
Title: Re: Discipline your children
Post by: Pigslilspaz on October 02, 2011, 04:09:36 PM
Can't stand RWJ. His main channel on youtube causes headaches any time a friend tries to show me it.
Title: Re: Discipline your children
Post by: sluggish on October 02, 2011, 04:20:01 PM
I just let my kids do whatever they want as long as they stay out of my hair and it doesn't cost me any money.
Title: Re: Discipline your children
Post by: allaire on October 02, 2011, 09:31:31 PM
Say that in my inbox the other day, subbed to NicePeter, and found it funny as hell.  Reminded me of what I dealt with when I worked retail.
Title: Re: Discipline your children
Post by: Mar on October 02, 2011, 10:01:29 PM
Say, a little WARNING next time???
Title: Re: Discipline your children
Post by: Tupac on October 02, 2011, 10:44:18 PM
One of my pilot friends took this on a commercial flight - it would have been SO much better with sound

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hspPBw9dpO0
Title: Re: Discipline your children
Post by: Dichotomy on October 03, 2011, 07:44:34 AM
Say, a little WARNING next time???

Warning: If I post a YouTube link it may have some profanity ;)

sorry Mar
Title: Re: Discipline your children
Post by: Raphael on October 03, 2011, 08:58:11 AM
One of my pilot friends took this on a commercial flight - it would have been SO much better with sound

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hspPBw9dpO0
:rofl
Title: Re: Discipline your children
Post by: MachFly on October 03, 2011, 09:53:47 AM
One of my pilot friends took this on a commercial flight - it would have been SO much better with sound

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hspPBw9dpO0

That's why you wear your noise canceling headset even when your a passenger.  :aok
Title: Re: Discipline your children
Post by: Penguin on October 03, 2011, 08:15:38 PM
AHAHAHAH!!! that's sooo perfect!!!  :rofl


waiting on the penguinism...

Penguinism inbound in 5... 4... 3... 2... 1... Penguinism:

Though I find beating anyone's kids wrong, I can understand the frustration of those who work with children. However, it does not justify violence toward children under any non-self-defense related circumstances.  The ending of the song shows that.

-Penguin
Title: Re: Discipline your children
Post by: Raphael on October 03, 2011, 08:20:52 PM
Penguinism inbound in 5... 4... 3... 2... 1... Penguinism:

Though I find beating anyone's kids wrong, I can understand the frustration of those who work with children. However, it does not justify violence toward children under any non-self-defense related circumstances.  The ending of the song shows that.

-Penguin
Agreed 100%  :aok
Title: Re: Discipline your children
Post by: Dichotomy on October 03, 2011, 08:38:23 PM
Penguinism inbound in 5... 4... 3... 2... 1... Penguinism:

Though I find beating anyone's kids wrong, I can understand the frustration of those who work with children. However, it does not justify violence toward children under any non-self-defense related circumstances.  The ending of the song shows that.

-Penguin

there is absolutely no law against thinking about it bird boy ;)
Title: Re: Discipline your children
Post by: shotgunneeley on October 03, 2011, 09:43:56 PM
Because when I have to deal with the little curtain climbers while running to the store for supplies on a Sunday morning this song goes through my head over and over

http://www.youtube.com/user/Yourfavoritemartian#p/u/0/TUmJDVRDRTQ

SHOTGUN'S OPINIONS ON REARING THE CHILDREN I DON'T HAVE:

   IMHO, the most important aspect of child rearing is, umm (video still fresh in mind) "sticking to your guns". If you say there will be a consequence for an unwanted action, do not hesitate to implement that consequence. If you say there will be punishment for bad behavior but fail to discipline them, then they will continue to push the envelope and will eventually stop listening to you all together. It's simple: reward for good behavior, punish for bad behavior and then correct it.
   All too often parents come across as trying to be a "friend" to their kids, maybe because they think if they are cool in the eyes of the younger generation then they will stop aging  :old: . Your kids will have plenty of friends, what they need a provider, teacher and guide.
   If you debate with your kids over an issue, don't take the lazy way out and say "because I said so" and don't let them throw any whiny bullcrap. If the issue is debatable, stay intelligent about it and your kids will want to imitate your intelligence.

While I think any physical harm/abuse directed towards your kids is wrong and detrimental to their wellbeing, I think a firm pop to the backside could serve as a good wake-up call to let them know that they need to stop what they're doing, especially if they should already know the act is improper. (I think of Gibbs on NCIS smacking his team on the back of the head). Letting your kids do whatever they want without proper guidance or discipline is a terrible injustice.
Title: Re: Discipline your children
Post by: FiLtH on October 03, 2011, 10:14:10 PM
Blah RWJ goes politically correct at the end.
Title: Re: Discipline your children
Post by: FYB on October 04, 2011, 12:02:25 AM
there is absolutely no law against thinking about it bird boy ;)
I think they need to make an amendment. Something that gives parents some extra leash on discipline. I'm not saying hitting your kids is correct, but abuse and discipline are two different things, sometimes a good smacking is needed to get the point across.
Title: Re: Discipline your children
Post by: EskimoJoe on October 04, 2011, 12:48:43 AM
there is absolutely no law against thinking about it bird boy ;)

 :devil :aok
Title: Re: Discipline your children
Post by: Penguin on October 04, 2011, 05:30:39 PM
there is absolutely no law against thinking about it bird boy ;)

Nice strawman.  I never mentioned thinking about beating children (which, although legal, is disturbing).

-Penguin
Title: Re: Discipline your children
Post by: vorticon on October 04, 2011, 05:44:08 PM
Nice strawman.  I never mentioned thinking about beating children (which, although legal, is disturbing).

-Penguin

whooooossshhhh
Title: Re: Discipline your children
Post by: Penguin on October 04, 2011, 05:47:35 PM
SHOTGUN'S OPINIONS ON REARING THE CHILDREN I DON'T HAVE:

   IMHO, the most important aspect of child rearing is, umm (video still fresh in mind) "sticking to your guns". If you say there will be a consequence for an unwanted action, do not hesitate to implement that consequence. If you say there will be punishment for bad behavior but fail to discipline them, then they will continue to push the envelope and will eventually stop listening to you all together. It's simple: reward for good behavior, punish for bad behavior and then correct it.
   All too often parents come across as trying to be a "friend" to their kids, maybe because they think if they are cool in the eyes of the younger generation then they will stop aging  :old: . Your kids will have plenty of friends, what they need a provider, teacher and guide.
   If you debate with your kids over an issue, don't take the lazy way out and say "because I said so" and don't let them throw any whiny bullcrap. If the issue is debatable, stay intelligent about it and your kids will want to imitate your intelligence.

While I think any physical harm/abuse directed towards your kids is wrong and detrimental to their wellbeing, I think a firm pop to the backside could serve as a good wake-up call to let them know that they need to stop what they're doing, especially if they should already know the act is improper. (I think of Gibbs on NCIS smacking his team on the back of the head). Letting your kids do whatever they want without proper guidance or discipline is a terrible injustice.

That's the big one for me.  I hate it when my parents say "I don't have to explain my decisions to you".  Or "I'll punish you if you even say anything to the contrary" after their very first (and verifiably wrong) sentence.  I've never, ever shut them out.  It just leads to feelings of frustration.

Oh what the heck, I'll rant.

If parents want to make a controversial decision that goes against their child's wishes and previous actions, the least they can do is explain their point and allow their child adequate time to support his/her point.  For instance, my little brother and his friends often ask me to play NERF with them, and it's fun, I won't deny.  Recently, I've modified three NERF guns (which, by the way, was approved beforehand) in order to make them shoot further and with less deviation at long range.  However, this modification was incomplete when my parents picked up the guns and tried them out.  The sound of the plastic internal parts slamming together made a loud "BANG!", and the darts were significantly faster than before.  Furthermore, the darts just so happened to have rubber tips, which made them bounce off the wall.  This made them look like death lasers.

My parents didn't seem to understand the availibility of protective eyewear, the highly limited terminal ballistic potential of NERF darts, and extremely low accuracy to anywhere other than center-of-mass.  We have goggles and helmets of all sorts around the house, all of which are light, easy-to-wear, and easily stop NERF darts.  NERF darts, even when travelling at high velocities, are the victims of low mass- they only weigh a few grams each.  This severely limits any potential for damage, even to unprotected areas.  Finally, almost every NERF dart fired in action misses, and those that hit are usually to the center-of-mass or feet.  Both of these areas are protected by loose clothing or extremely tough to begin with.  The idea of the darts hurting was absurd, we had a hard time of feeling them at all.

However, my parents stood by their ill-informed decision, made degrading jokes about my position and character while I respectfully presented my points, and then threatened to destroy every NERF blaster in the house, modified or not, if I said so much as a sentence in protests.  Mind you, this was no drawn-out or even moderately fair debate.  I had just gotten up, and they sprung it on me together and by surprise after having talked about it the night before.  I was upset, and to this day I do not understand the basis of their decision.  

-Penguin
Title: Re: Discipline your children
Post by: Dichotomy on October 04, 2011, 05:55:17 PM
Well Peng... sometimes mom and dad just have to say 'no' for reasons you can't grasp at the time.  Kind of sucks but there it is.  My suggestion? Some day in the future when you and dad are doing something together respectfully ask him why that was the decision and listen to his reasons without argument.  You might learn something you didn't know. 

Now shall we return to the tongue in cheek humor I was striving for by starting this trainwreck?

Personally I prefer a good gas blowback as a child discipline device.  Good range and hurts like heck if you get em in the thigh. 

'Do the dishes'

*eyeroll with a sigh*

*BANG*

'OOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW  Dad that HURT!!!'

'Betcha don't give me attitude NEXT time hmmmm?'
Title: Re: Discipline your children
Post by: M0nkey_Man on October 04, 2011, 06:04:24 PM
That's the big one for me.  I hate it when my parents say "I don't have to explain my decisions to you".  Or "I'll punish you if you even say anything to the contrary" after their very first (and verifiably wrong) sentence.  I've never, ever shut them out.  It just leads to feelings of frustration.

Oh what the heck, I'll rant.

If parents want to make a controversial decision that goes against their child's wishes and previous actions, the least they can do is explain their point and allow their child adequate time to support his/her point.  For instance, my little brother and his friends often ask me to play NERF with them, and it's fun, I won't deny.  Recently, I've modified three NERF guns (which, by the way, was approved beforehand) in order to make them shoot further and with less deviation at long range.  However, this modification was incomplete when my parents picked up the guns and tried them out.  The sound of the plastic internal parts slamming together made a loud "BANG!", and the darts were significantly faster than before.  Furthermore, the darts just so happened to have rubber tips, which made them bounce off the wall.  This made them look like death lasers.

My parents didn't seem to understand the availibility of protective eyewear, the highly limited terminal ballistic potential of NERF darts, and extremely low accuracy to anywhere other than center-of-mass.  We have goggles and helmets of all sorts around the house, all of which are light, easy-to-wear, and easily stop NERF darts.  NERF darts, even when travelling at high velocities, are the victims of low mass- they only weigh a few grams each.  This severely limits any potential for damage, even to unprotected areas.  Finally, almost every NERF dart fired in action misses, and those that hit are usually to the center-of-mass or feet.  Both of these areas are protected by loose clothing or extremely tough to begin with.  The idea of the darts hurting was absurd, we had a hard time of feeling them at all.

However, my parents stood by their ill-informed decision, made degrading jokes about my position and character while I respectfully presented my points, and then threatened to destroy every NERF blaster in the house, modified or not, if I said so much as a sentence in protests.  Mind you, this was no drawn-out or even moderately fair debate.  I had just gotten up, and they sprung it on me together and by surprise after having talked about it the night before.  I was upset, and to this day I do not understand the basis of their decision.  

-Penguin
i know it sucks, I would always rather get in an argument with my dad because he will usually look at it from both sides and be reasonable.my mom is one of the "i dont care what you think" people
Title: Re: Discipline your children
Post by: vorticon on October 04, 2011, 07:11:39 PM
That's the big one for me.  I hate it when my parents say "I don't have to explain my decisions to you".  Or "I'll punish you if you even say anything to the contrary" after their very first (and verifiably wrong) sentence.  I've never, ever shut them out.  It just leads to feelings of frustration.

Oh what the heck, I'll rant.

If parents want to make a controversial decision that goes against their child's wishes and previous actions, the least they can do is explain their point and allow their child adequate time to support his/her point.  For instance, my little brother and his friends often ask me to play NERF with them, and it's fun, I won't deny.  Recently, I've modified three NERF guns (which, by the way, was approved beforehand) in order to make them shoot further and with less deviation at long range.  However, this modification was incomplete when my parents picked up the guns and tried them out.  The sound of the plastic internal parts slamming together made a loud "BANG!", and the darts were significantly faster than before.  Furthermore, the darts just so happened to have rubber tips, which made them bounce off the wall.  This made them look like death lasers.

My parents didn't seem to understand the availibility of protective eyewear, the highly limited terminal ballistic potential of NERF darts, and extremely low accuracy to anywhere other than center-of-mass.  We have goggles and helmets of all sorts around the house, all of which are light, easy-to-wear, and easily stop NERF darts.  NERF darts, even when travelling at high velocities, are the victims of low mass- they only weigh a few grams each.  This severely limits any potential for damage, even to unprotected areas.  Finally, almost every NERF dart fired in action misses, and those that hit are usually to the center-of-mass or feet.  Both of these areas are protected by loose clothing or extremely tough to begin with.  The idea of the darts hurting was absurd, we had a hard time of feeling them at all.

However, my parents stood by their ill-informed decision, made degrading jokes about my position and character while I respectfully presented my points, and then threatened to destroy every NERF blaster in the house, modified or not, if I said so much as a sentence in protests.  Mind you, this was no drawn-out or even moderately fair debate.  I had just gotten up, and they sprung it on me together and by surprise after having talked about it the night before.  I was upset, and to this day I do not understand the basis of their decision.  

-Penguin


you'll shoot your eye out, kid
Title: Re: Discipline your children
Post by: Penguin on October 04, 2011, 07:39:21 PM
That's exactly what the protective eyewear is for.  That was a good one, though.

-Penguin
Title: Re: Discipline your children
Post by: BERN1 on October 04, 2011, 07:51:17 PM
like you said they "tried them before they were done" and I am sure you argued your case at this point.
however your parents invisioned "not done" as not powerful enough. so they killed your project,maybe your Dad could have
overseen your initial experiments so he would understand and maybe even <gasp> help. personally I would have told my sons COOL lets go outside and try these buggers
Title: Re: Discipline your children
Post by: Penguin on October 04, 2011, 08:00:39 PM
Thanks, it's good to hear that not all parents act like this.  I think he also envisioned the upgrade as a sadistic plot to cause my brother pain, which again, couldn't be felt due to loose clothing, long ranges, and low accuracy.

-Penguin