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Title: 42 Disco's this month
Post by: Getback on October 03, 2011, 08:16:04 AM
What is the world is going on? This is getting old. Additionally like last night the game was mildly stuttering. Never had any problems before and now it's about once an hour. I cannot continue playing this way.

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Title: Re: 42 Disco's this month
Post by: The Fugitive on October 03, 2011, 08:28:50 AM
...and why are you complaining here?

Get ping plotter and run the traces. Test it a different times of day to see what is happening with your connection. Odds are VERY good it has nothing to do with HTC's servers, but either something along the lines between you and them, OR something is screwed up in your computer.
Title: Re: 42 Disco's this month
Post by: Getback on October 03, 2011, 08:30:06 AM
...and why are you complaining here?

Get ping plotter and run the traces. Test it a different times of day to see what is happening with your connection. Odds are VERY good it has nothing to do with HTC's servers, but either something along the lines between you and them, OR something is screwed up in your computer.

Fugitive, if I wanted a sermon I would go to church.
Title: Re: 42 Disco's this month
Post by: Skuzzy on October 03, 2011, 08:57:08 AM
Getback, that trace shows the problem is at hop #4 in your local ISP's network.  You need to get them involved and not the local support guys, but the Tier 2, or higher network guys.
Title: Re: 42 Disco's this month
Post by: Getback on October 03, 2011, 08:59:53 AM
Getback, that trace shows the problem is at hop #4 in your local ISP's network.  You need to get them involved and not the local support guys, but the Tier 2, or higher network guys.

Will do Skuzzy. I'm heading out on a mission but when I get back I'll start the long painful communication process.
Title: Re: 42 Disco's this month
Post by: Getback on October 03, 2011, 02:02:32 PM
Went to ATT and they think it's the router. They pinged this site and the troubled hop. I pinged this site and the hop from the command prompt and no issues. So we reset the Router. They said try it for a couple of days and if any issues get back to them.
Title: Re: 42 Disco's this month
Post by: Tigger29 on October 03, 2011, 02:04:49 PM
Went to ATT and they think it's the router. They pinged this site and the troubled hop. I pinged this site and the hop from the command prompt and no issues. So we reset the Router. They said try it for a couple of days and if any issues get back to them.

That's what they always say.  I guess we all assumed that you had already reset the router.  If the problem continues you'll need to get connected to a higher tier of service otherwise all they'll do is tell you to reset the router or schedule a service call.
Title: Re: 42 Disco's this month
Post by: Getback on October 03, 2011, 03:58:03 PM
That's what they always say.  I guess we all assumed that you had already reset the router.  If the problem continues you'll need to get connected to a higher tier of service otherwise all they'll do is tell you to reset the router or schedule a service call.

I thought that too. However I will try this. How do you get to a higher tier of service?
Title: Re: 42 Disco's this month
Post by: Skuzzy on October 03, 2011, 04:07:49 PM
Depends on the ISP.  Most of the time you have to talk to ask for a manager and make them udnerstand the problem is not a local one, but within the ISP network.

You have to explain it is impacting your use of the Internet and you wanted to be sure they knew about the problem and if they could give you an ETA on when it might be solved.

You have to stand your ground on this, as all that phone supports primary job is to get you off the phone.
Title: Re: 42 Disco's this month
Post by: Tigger29 on October 03, 2011, 04:31:29 PM
Another thing you can try is register an account with dslreports.com (it's free) and post in the DIRECT SUPPORT forums for your ISP.  Sometimes techs for these companies will hang out there and try to get you help that is extremely difficult to get by calling 1-800-ATT-SUPPORT-WANTS-TO-WASTE-MY-TIME-WITH-A-CUSTOMER-SERVICE-REPRESENTATIVE-IN-INDIA.

http://www.dslreports.com/forums/all (http://www.dslreports.com/forums/all)
Title: Re: 42 Disco's this month
Post by: Getback on October 03, 2011, 10:08:16 PM
I'll have to call them again tomorrow. I did post on the above website in faint hopes of a solution.
Title: Re: 42 Disco's this month
Post by: Getback on October 04, 2011, 08:10:31 AM
Called AT&T and what a phreaking nightmare. They want to send a technician to my home. I said why when it's hop 3 and 4! They said they have to check my connection. But it's not local. They said we need to send a technician. I said I can give the addresses for the bad hops. They said nothing that made any sense. I said I don't think we're on the same page here. It's a different address than mine. Nothing got through to them.

Title: Re: 42 Disco's this month
Post by: ink on October 04, 2011, 09:26:47 AM
Called AT&T and what a phreaking nightmare. They want to send a technician to my home. I said why when it's hop 3 and 4! They said they have to check my connection. But it's not local. They said we need to send a technician. I said I can give the addresses for the bad hops. They said nothing that made any sense. I said I don't think we're on the same page here. It's a different address than mine. Nothing got through to them.



 :rofl

sorry I dont mean to laugh at your situation......but you description makes me think of what I dealt with in the past and its better to laugh then smash stuff.
Title: Re: 42 Disco's this month
Post by: Skuzzy on October 04, 2011, 09:34:40 AM
Called AT&T and what a phreaking nightmare. They want to send a technician to my home. I said why when it's hop 3 and 4! They said they have to check my connection. But it's not local. They said we need to send a technician. I said I can give the addresses for the bad hops. They said nothing that made any sense. I said I don't think we're on the same page here. It's a different address than mine. Nothing got through to them.

I feel for the consumer today.  ISP terms of service only holds them responsible for the immediate connection to the service and not the rest of the network.  Technically, they do not have to do anything to fix any problem if the problem is not with the "last mile" (i.e. your connection).

Without any competition (and there usually is not any) they have no impetus to fix anything.
Title: Re: 42 Disco's this month
Post by: Tigger29 on October 04, 2011, 12:38:13 PM
Called AT&T and what a phreaking nightmare. They want to send a technician to my home. I said why when it's hop 3 and 4! They said they have to check my connection. But it's not local. They said we need to send a technician. I said I can give the addresses for the bad hops. They said nothing that made any sense. I said I don't think we're on the same page here. It's a different address than mine. Nothing got through to them.

Seriously try the dslreports link.  They help people that have been through this exact nightmare all the time.
Title: Re: 42 Disco's this month
Post by: Getback on October 04, 2011, 02:26:57 PM
Seriously try the dslreports link.  They help people that have been through this exact nightmare all the time.

I did Tigger.

I told them "You realize it's easier to switch ISPs than to deal with AT&T!"
Title: Re: 42 Disco's this month
Post by: Getback on October 04, 2011, 04:41:05 PM
May have a dumb question but can those IP addresses dropping packets be my router?
Title: Re: 42 Disco's this month
Post by: Skuzzy on October 04, 2011, 04:47:22 PM
No.  Each line in a Ping Plot represents another router or switch.
Title: Re: 42 Disco's this month
Post by: Getback on October 04, 2011, 09:16:34 PM
Connection isn't the problem. Was finally able to get a hold of someone about the issue and what he said made sense to me.

I was looking at my Memory usage at desktop and I'm using 38% at desktop. I think there lies the issue. Not sure what's causing it though. The CPU is using 5%. For memory that is 38% of 3.25 gigs of recognized memory. That would explain the jitter movements in play during hvy traffic.
Title: Re: 42 Disco's this month
Post by: Skuzzy on October 05, 2011, 06:08:55 AM
Frame stutters are not associated with network activity.  Yes, that is separate, but the packet loss you see on hop #4 will/can cause discos to occur.
Title: Re: 42 Disco's this month
Post by: Getback on October 05, 2011, 06:19:29 AM
Frame stutters are not associated with network activity.  Yes, that is separate, but the packet loss you see on hop #4 will/can cause discos to occur.

If I run a ping from the command prompt there are no packet losses. The guy I spoke to said that some servers don't allow traces because it would double activity and therefore require a larger server. So when you run a trace it shows packet losses. Which makes sense to me (from what little I know). That reason being is if I had a 100% packet loss then why would it continue the trace through the hops. Which it does.

As far as the stuttering goes I'm not sure. I deleted my AV last night to see what affect that has. I've yet to test it.
Title: Re: 42 Disco's this month
Post by: Skuzzy on October 05, 2011, 06:23:50 AM
100% packet loss usually means the router does not honor the ICMP ECHO packet.  But anything less than 100% means the router does honor the packet and IS experiencing packet loss.

You are dealing with two separate issues here.
Title: Re: 42 Disco's this month
Post by: flatiron1 on October 05, 2011, 08:30:45 AM
Charter Cable is coming out today for 3rd time this month. They say this time they will install  a signal booster.
Title: Re: 42 Disco's this month
Post by: Getback on October 05, 2011, 12:42:32 PM
After deleting the AV it seems good so far. That was after 2 to 3 hours of flying. No jerkiness and no disco.

I may want to add that I downloaded the hires package and auto-tuned my VC. I had 1024 resolution but had never loaded the Hires package. In fact I wasn't sure what resolution I was running.
Title: Re: 42 Disco's this month
Post by: Skuzzy on October 05, 2011, 01:01:58 PM
Most anti-virus programs wreak havoc with the game.
Title: Re: 42 Disco's this month
Post by: flatiron1 on October 05, 2011, 01:41:36 PM
OK this guy checked my connection at the pole and found water  and corrosion. Funny thing is I suggested the other two techs check that but they didn't.
Title: Re: 42 Disco's this month
Post by: Getback on October 05, 2011, 10:30:04 PM
It's still a bit jittery in heavy traffic. Is there a program to close services or processes for W7?