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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Skyguns MKII on October 05, 2011, 03:08:19 PM
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we know many tanks in the game have smoke munitions. But did they have more than just white smoke? did they ever use different colors?
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Smoke grenades fired from tanks are all one color. Smoke generated from engine is blue grey. Choked on both of them for years.
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we know many tanks in the game have smoke munitions. But did they have more than just white smoke? did they ever use different colors?
IIRC i think some tanks in WW-2 used colored smoke such as green or yellow to mark targets/mark themselves as friendlies if allied planes were attacking them.
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IIRC i think some tanks in WW-2 used colored smoke such as green or yellow to mark targets/mark themselves as friendlies if allied planes were attacking them.
This is what im looking for, any historical backup?
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IIRC I saw an interview with a Canadian tanker saying they fired yellow (or some other color) to mark themselves as friendly when being strafed by a typhoon by mistake.
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For colored smoke we just had colored hand grenades. Yellow, Red, Violet, Green and Heavy cloud "HC" which was white.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtCLmYSfZNw&feature=related
Fast forward to about 3:00 in this video and they talk about using yellow smoke.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtCLmYSfZNw&feature=related
Fast forward to about 3:00 in this video and they talk about using yellow smoke.
"Canisters of yellow smoke" not smoke shells.
Smoke, one would think, would primarily be used as concealment in a tank. If you are going to fire anything at the enemy you would want to be offensive versus giving your position away just to mark something.
What I have read, the Allies used colored panels to mark their positions for friendly aircraft. They don't give you away as they can only be seen from the air.
wrongway
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"Canisters of yellow smoke" not smoke shells.
Smoke, one would think, would primarily be used as concealment in a tank. If you are going to fire anything at the enemy you would want to be offensive versus giving your position away just to mark something.
What I have read, the Allies used colored panels to mark their positions for friendly aircraft. They don't give you away as they can only be seen from the air.
wrongway
So this would just be like open the hatch and toss out a couple of smoke grenades? I could see that happening.
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picture of M18 colored smoke grenades. (http://vietnam-war.commemoration.gov.au/armour/images/gallery/apc/EKN_68_0089_VN.jpg) They haven't changed from WWII.
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Tank firing smoke grenades (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ux7kbck0Lo&feature=related)
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picture of M18 colored smoke grenades. (http://vietnam-war.commemoration.gov.au/armour/images/gallery/apc/EKN_68_0089_VN.jpg) They haven't changed from WWII.
That's a V100 not an M-18.
Pic url: http://vietnam-war.commemoration.gov.au/armour/images/gallery/apc/EKN_68_0089_VN.jpg
25 years post WWII.
edit: may be a M113 but that doesn't look like an ACAV kit.
edit #2: An M113 APC follows a Centurion tank through thick scrub. Fitted with a turret, this APC is also armed with twin .30 inch machine guns. The crew commander has an M79 grenade launcher close to hand and smoke canisters are at the ready attached to the outside of the turret.
edit #3: Ohhhh. They are M-18 smoke grenades, WWII vintage?
wrongway
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We used the M18 all through the time I was in the army 1978 - 2001.
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We used the M18 all through the time I was in the army 1978 - 2001.
:huh you have to be kidding. even the marine corps (step children of the dod) eliminated tank destroyers, like the m36 and m50 in favor of dragon and tow missiles on various vehicle mounts by 1980.
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gyrene, check the smoke grenades..... Mk18 smoke yellow!
I dont think he meant Mk18TD.
:salute
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picture of M18 colored smoke grenades. (http://vietnam-war.commemoration.gov.au/armour/images/gallery/apc/EKN_68_0089_VN.jpg) They haven't changed from WWII.
Question....
Is that gun laying there, used to shoot off the gas canisters? or is that Thumper? :huh
I thought thumper didn't come around until the 50s-60s.
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gyrene, check the smoke grenades..... Mk18 smoke yellow!
I dont think he meant Mk18TD.
:salute
:lol well that makes more sense. :rofl :lol
Question....
Is that gun laying there, used to shoot off the gas canisters? or is that Thumper? :huh
I thought thumper didn't come around until the 50s-60s.
the weapon is evidently an m79 40mm grenade launcher, first deployed in 1961. definitely not ww2.
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the weapon is evidently an m79 40mm grenade launcher, first deployed in 1961. definitely not ww2.
so the M18 served in Vietnam? i did not know that. <S>
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so the M18 served in Vietnam? i did not know that. <S>
you sure jump to conclusions pretty quickly. it didnt. it was in service from 1941-57. some other countries used it after the US de-commisioned it but we never really did use it in the jungles of 'nam.
http://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/detail.asp?armor_id=250
heres the link to where i did my research.
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so the M18 served in Vietnam? i did not know that. <S>
the m18 smoke grenade did for sure. :lol
that pic is an m113 apc with a twin .30 mg mount and m18 smoke grenades hanging on the side of the gun turret.
same vehicle, different gun turret.
http://vietnam-war.commemoration.gov.au/armour/images/gallery/apc/P01777_003.jpg (http://vietnam-war.commemoration.gov.au/armour/images/gallery/apc/P01777_003.jpg)
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Reading is fundamental. :D
It took me three edits to figure out that the M-18 was the smoke grenade not the gv and it was a more contemporary picture.
We have M-18 Hellcats on the brain. The gv, not the airplane.
I blame TBolt for the obfuscation. :aok
wrongway
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Reading is fundamental. :D
It took me three edits to figure out that the M-18 was the smoke grenade not the gv and it was a more contemporary picture.
We have M-18 Hellcats on the brain. The gv, not the airplane.
I blame TBolt for the obfuscation. :aok
wrongway
Thank you Sir may I have another. Your right I should have be clearer in the post. :salute