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Title: remove navigation "gps"
Post by: Raphael on October 07, 2011, 10:10:31 AM
a wish coming from another wish as semp posted i had an idea that some people migth like.

How about removing 100 of that lil marker that shows where you are? doesn't matter if you are on gv ac or boat. radar would still work almost the same way.

this could be interesting imo, personally I think we would be made to use that compass we have on the plane and some of us would even print some maps  :D

what I can think for the radar (so people wont ask their buddies "where am i rigth now?") is that when a friendly ac is over friendly territory (if the current sector has at leats one friendly base) they will show on radar, people that are far into enemy territory will have to figure out the correct directions :D

Seems fun to me,I guess some bombers would like that too, what do you guys think?
Title: Re: remove navigation "gps"
Post by: Debrody on October 07, 2011, 10:15:22 AM
Interesting idea. It would make the game more realistic.
In the other hand, its about fighting each other, not flying around and wonder where we are. I would give it a -1 in the MA. But we have the same in the scenarios. and thats a lot of fun.
Title: Re: remove navigation "gps"
Post by: Raphael on October 07, 2011, 10:28:14 AM
But as I see this could be interesting for figths aswell.
Fights that usually take place over a struggle for a field happens close to a certain field that will start flashing.
Fights that happen in other cases would still happen anyway but imagine if you are over enemy territory and a figth comes up, you would have to tell your buddies the coordinades and for that you would have to know where you are :D

also usually people go in the figth, kill kill, (2 kills) and rtb the fastest way, what about make them think at least a lil and plan their way back? :)
Title: Re: remove navigation "gps"
Post by: guncrasher on October 07, 2011, 02:25:23 PM
as much as I agree with you raphael, ah is about the fight.  not the flying of the plane.  besides we dont really have detail maps that we can use to guide us anywhere, specially in gvs.  even in ww2 the gvs used the roads to get anywhere to a fight, we mostly dont have those from the spawn.

semp
Title: Re: remove navigation "gps"
Post by: Raphael on October 07, 2011, 05:20:21 PM
well then nvm my wish, but the ground detail sounds like a challenge for the map makers out there!  :D
Title: Re: remove navigation "gps"
Post by: Pigslilspaz on October 07, 2011, 05:27:28 PM
+1 for being able to toggle your map icon in the arena settings, would make things such as scenarios much more interesting
Title: Re: remove navigation "gps"
Post by: trap78 on October 07, 2011, 05:48:28 PM
A Big +1 for special events, AvA, etc.

What we need is a setting that would allow a CM to choose between the plane icon or a dot for the clipboard map. The dot would track your position on the map just like the plane icon but you'd have to use the compass to determine a heading to get from point A to point B. We're not talking rocket science here just some basic navigation.

Title: Re: remove navigation "gps"
Post by: Seanaldinho on October 07, 2011, 09:15:04 PM
The problem with this is there is nothing to reference yourself to and for all you would no you could be on a long final (to land with lets say fumes for fuel) gear and flaps down then get peppered by ack. So unless satelite imagery is applied to the ground -1. Good idea though.  :aok
Title: Re: remove navigation "gps"
Post by: Pigslilspaz on October 08, 2011, 01:54:26 AM
In Scenarios, the maps aren't just random. You can use cities, coasts, rivers, etc. to find a bearing.
Title: Re: remove navigation "gps"
Post by: trap78 on October 08, 2011, 08:54:24 PM
This has nothing to do with navigating by landmarks. All you do is look at the clipboard map, your current position will be clearly marked by a dot. Friendly and enemy bases will be clearly marked on the map just like they are now. You decide where you want to go and then choose a suitable compass heading to get you there. You fly on that compass and occasionally check your position on the map to make any adjustments. I flew this way for years. If I can do it your average AH player should have no problem with it at all.
Title: Re: remove navigation "gps"
Post by: Raphael on October 08, 2011, 11:05:53 PM
what i had in mind was not a marker at all, you know where you start since you choose the field, radar does not know your location while in enemy territory.
Title: Re: remove navigation "gps"
Post by: trap78 on October 08, 2011, 11:44:29 PM
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what i had in mind was not a marker at all, you know where you start since you choose the field, radar does not know your location while in enemy territory.

My bad then. I thought you meant having directional capability by looking at a map icon instead of using a compass. I've flown without any map marker at all and while it can be done, I don't think it's suited to anything other than special events. I'm not sure but I think low frequency radio and maybe VOR was used in WWII to aid pilots in navigation.
Title: Re: remove navigation "gps"
Post by: Raphael on October 09, 2011, 12:53:15 AM
yes i see your point, what you are sugesting is perfectly suitable for the MA in everyday gameplay so I +1 your idea  :aok
Title: Re: remove navigation "gps"
Post by: Tupac on October 09, 2011, 03:56:06 PM
+1
Title: Re: remove navigation "gps"
Post by: FLS on October 09, 2011, 05:31:56 PM
You already have the option of not opening your clipboard in order to have more challenge and realism.
Title: Re: remove navigation "gps"
Post by: ink on October 09, 2011, 06:48:45 PM
I actually like the idea of a dot instead of a plane on the ingame map...so you have to use your in-plane compass....


+1 for the dot instead of plane...

-1 to get rid of it completely...
Title: Re: remove navigation "gps"
Post by: Raptor05121 on October 10, 2011, 12:14:30 AM
+1
Title: Re: remove navigation "gps"
Post by: MachFly on October 10, 2011, 01:11:36 AM
I don't know where I like this idea or not, have not made up my mind yet. But I don't see HTC implementing it. HiTech said a while ago that Aces High is about combat, not operating the plane or navigating.

P.S. Unless you really need it please don't ask me to find the quote.
Title: Re: remove navigation "gps"
Post by: ElectricOne on October 10, 2011, 03:32:16 AM
I say keep it...

It's too much of a trouble to navigate in the artificial world. Too many hills and barns that look the same.
Title: Re: remove navigation "gps"
Post by: trap78 on October 10, 2011, 08:45:55 AM
The main arenas are undoubtedly more about "the fight" and base capture, but most special events allow the players to experience many other aspects of WWII air combat including basic navigation. That's the idea behind a CM setting that can enable either the plane icon or dot. With the return of custom arenas, an option like this would probably see a lot of use.
Title: Re: remove navigation "gps"
Post by: guncrasher on October 10, 2011, 09:56:40 AM
The main arenas are undoubtedly more about "the fight" and base capture, but most special events allow the players to experience many other aspects of WWII air combat including basic navigation. That's the idea behind a CM setting that can enable either the plane icon or dot. With the return of custom arenas, an option like this would probably see a lot of use.

like somebody else said.  you dont have to open your clipboard.  print the map then try to navigate, not hard to do.  as for user arenas, i think the point is more like private furball than a climb to 50k then go bomb something.



semp
Title: Re: remove navigation "gps"
Post by: trap78 on October 10, 2011, 01:46:50 PM
Quote from guncrasher:
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...print the map then try to navigate...
I suppose this might work in regards to the OP but isn't close to the idea of using a dot instead of a gps plane icon.

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as for user arenas, i think the point is more like private furball than a climb to 50k then go bomb something.
I fly in custom arenas several times a week and what I'm seeing is just as many historically based set ups as private furballs. I've yet to see anyone climb to 50k to do anything.
Title: Re: remove navigation "gps"
Post by: ImADot on October 10, 2011, 07:15:01 PM
That's the idea behind a CM setting that can enable either the plane icon or dot.

Wait...really? We have that? I know I'm new and all, but I've never seen this option.
Title: Re: remove navigation "gps"
Post by: trap78 on October 10, 2011, 07:49:16 PM
That's the idea behind a CM setting that can enable either the plane icon or dot.

Unfortunately Dot we don't have this; it's my wish....but if we did would you be interested in using it?
Title: Re: remove navigation "gps"
Post by: ImADot on October 10, 2011, 09:09:56 PM
Myself personally, probably not.
Title: Re: remove navigation "gps"
Post by: guncrasher on October 11, 2011, 02:35:01 AM
The main arenas are undoubtedly more about "the fight" and base capture, but most special events allow the players to experience many other aspects of WWII air combat including basic navigation. That's the idea behind a CM setting that can enable either the plane icon or dot. With the return of custom arenas, an option like this would probably see a lot of use.

dood try to understand this.  the only reason for ah is the "fight" with base capture being secondary.  and one more thing basic navigation is what we have now, you want it more challenging well then dont open the clipboard, print your maps and knock yourself out.  as for custom arenas not having the standard option, well with only a few players do you really want the challenge to be the "fight" or flying the airplane.  because if you want to really "fly the airplane" then off line is the way to go.

semp
Title: Re: remove navigation "gps"
Post by: trap78 on October 11, 2011, 10:23:13 AM
^^^ :rolleyes:
Title: Re: remove navigation "gps"
Post by: Raphael on October 11, 2011, 12:50:39 PM
really wouldn't hurt to have a option in the arena set up, i don't mean client side but when you set up a custom arena for 16 players or when people set up events  :frown:
Title: Re: remove navigation "gps"
Post by: wooks on October 20, 2011, 07:15:17 PM
I think It should show ur dot only when u enter radar circle  of a friendly base that way you would awoid the long finals and landing at the enemy field lol  cool idea +1   also how about air traffic  control  ???   For example  if u in enemy territory  and not sure where to go there would be a tuggle in the radio bar so when u select it the ATC would give  u a heading to the closest  friendly  base    what u guys think???
Title: Re: remove navigation "gps"
Post by: guncrasher on October 21, 2011, 05:01:39 AM
really wouldn't hurt to have a option in the arena set up, i don't mean client side but when you set up a custom arena for 16 players or when people set up events  :frown:

there's an arena hundreds of miles wide with only 8 guys per side trying to find each other.  how much fuel do you think will be needed?  user arenas are meant for short flight furballing, not 2 or 3 hour missions hoping you can find something to shoot at.

as for the special events, think of guys getting lost running out of fuel, how long do you think they will keep coming back for the event?


semp
Title: Re: remove navigation "gps"
Post by: 4deck on October 21, 2011, 06:52:15 AM
I actually like the idea of a dot instead of a plane on the ingame map...so you have to use your in-plane compass....


+1 for the dot instead of plane...

-1 to get rid of it completely...

Agreed  :aok