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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Penguin on October 11, 2011, 09:59:01 PM
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Hello,
I've been messing around with vinegar and baking soda rockets lately, and I've noticed that a cork is a very efficient way to let pressure build up in a controlled way. However, once I start the reaction I cannot choose when the rocket should launch. Though I've achieved an apogee of around 4-5 stories I know that I could get more bang for my buck. Is there any way that I can keep the rocket from flying away until I'd like it to so as to let the pressure build up further?
-Penguin
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Devise a piston base that the cork rests against. Have a small valve release a tiny bit of the fluid at the base below the piston slowly till it goes far enough to allow the cork to pop out.
Probably would just force the rocket off the cork. I dont know. Dammit Jim Im a Doctor not a rocket scientist!
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You need to look at the clamps that hold real rockets on the launch pad until they motors are burning evenly. The space shuttle uses (used a similar system) them too.
You could design a system that holds the rocket against the base and also holds the cork in until the clamps are released. Of course, be aware that you are creating a pipe bomb and it will be somewhat dangerous.
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Stop goofing off with silly stuff and use real rocket motors. They're more fun anyway.
If you HAVE to play with the baking soda and vinegar, build a platform with the corks attached. Lower your "rocket" onto the platform until you get a solid seal. Then use a spring tensioned arm mounted on a bracket with a fulcrum to hold the "rocket" in place until your desired pressure is attained. Adjust the spring tension as needed to break the fulcrum tension at your optimal pressure.
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A plastic spring clamp could be used to hold the "rocket" in place.
I've used a similar device to hold 2liter soda bottle rockets,I like to use water and compressed air instead of baking soda and vinegar but it's the same principle.
I mounted a clamp on a suitable peice of wood,glued the cork inplace and drilled a hole through the cork and board.I use a ball inflator attached to a hose from my compressor,pump about 45 psi and the bottle will go seveat hundred feet up. My grandson gets a kick outta getting wet from the rocket!!!
YMMV
:salute
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you do know your yard will smell like a ...well nevermind.
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You need to look at the clamps that hold real rockets on the launch pad until they motors are burning evenly. The space shuttle uses (used a similar system) them too.
You could design a system that holds the rocket against the base and also holds the cork in until the clamps are released. Of course, be aware that you are creating a pipe bomb and it will be somewhat dangerous.
And this is why, today, NASA is going broke so fast! :devil
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Those smartie pants also tried to pass us a small cylindrical piece of wood with a small hole drilled through the sides of it as a form of cork-stopper, but we're too smart for them and sent it back because we caught it in time!
Long gone are the days where kids earned their model rocketry chops with the kerosene can in the shed and uncle Fred's old box of grenades.
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When you designed the engine... what pressures did you design for. Did you run finite on it to confirm. What safety did you design in.... 2-1, 3-1?
Once you know then you can develope a method of pressure buiding to maximize your launch capabilities.
..... or you can just hit and miss till you perfect the launch. :)
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When you designed the engine... what pressures did you design for. Did you run finite on it to confirm. What safety did you design in.... 2-1, 3-1?
Once you know then you can develope a method of pressure buiding to maximize your launch capabilities.
..... or you can just hit and miss till you perfect the launch. :)
I have no clue about safety. I wear lab goggles and stand far away once the reaction starts.
A plastic spring clamp could be used to hold the "rocket" in place.
I've used a similar device to hold 2liter soda bottle rockets,I like to use water and compressed air instead of baking soda and vinegar but it's the same principle.
I mounted a clamp on a suitable peice of wood,glued the cork inplace and drilled a hole through the cork and board.I use a ball inflator attached to a hose from my compressor,pump about 45 psi and the bottle will go seveat hundred feet up. My grandson gets a kick outta getting wet from the rocket!!!
YMMV
:salute
I'm just a layman on this, would you mind explaining it more simply?
-Penguin
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Take a small piece of plywood and mount the clamp to it,a screw long enough for the job. Then glue a cork or suitable stopper to the board and thats it!
couldnt be simpler,the clamp holds the 2 liter bottle on to the cork and I simply squeeze the clamp to release and launch the rocket. you could extend the clamp arms with some dowel and tape so you dont get too wet,thats what the grandson like,squeezing the clamp open and getting wet!
:salute
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Ok, so what kind of a clamp would I need? I know, I know, I'm a suburban nerd with no clue how to make anything.
-Penguin
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Ok, so what kind of a clamp would I need? I know, I know, I'm a suburban nerd with no clue how to make anything.
-Penguin
Don't forget the FAA clearance process................... :)
lol seriously though... You should read up on rocketeering. It is a lot of fun. I was into rockets when I was young..... a long long time back.
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What did you do? Throw a rock as high as you could and call it 'rocketing'? Did you ever hit a dinosaur?
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What did you do? Throw a rock as high as you could and call it 'rocketing'? Did you ever hit a dinosaur?
Yes and yes..... before I hit one they were just known as Dinos.
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Take a look at the old water rocket systems and see if any of their ideas can be modified to fit a baking soda rocket.
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you do know your yard will smell like a ...well nevermind.
LOL good one :aok