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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Changeup on October 15, 2011, 11:16:49 PM
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Took the kids and wife out to the Cavanaugh Flight museum today. Some really cool and rare airplanes most of you fly...even one in the middle of restoration. Enjoy!
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Notice the engine exhaust...this is a Spanish assembled 109 G6 (according to the curator). The engine on the Spanish versions were right side up causing the exhaust manifold to be high on the engine cowling...the German versions were low. BTW, she isn't flown anymore....know why? They can't find a pilot in the Dallas area that wants to risk taking her up because she's too tough to fly. No one has the hours so I told them to call the following people: SunsFan, Grizz, bunnies, Krupnski, SunBat, Perdweeb, Debrody, and Dodger...I assured him that you guys would be fine in it. He wanted to know why so I told him you guys had about 10K hours each logged in the 109 series...he didnt believe me. :rock
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The tail section...for you skinners
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One of 200 CHOG's ever made...note the 20mm cannons. This one is engine-less...the museum is in a lawsuit over the engine because the main bearings were made improperly and the engine blew. They haven't had the motor for 5 years now.
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The Spit VIII....she is incredible
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The P-40 under restoration...ever wonder what one looks like under the hood?
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The FM2...it looked great in the air.
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Awesome pictures! They're so perty... :aok
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Actually that's not an F4U-1C. It's a Goodyear built FG-1D. The 20mm in the wings are fake. It confused me as well the last time I was there two years ago. The aircraft seemed to be in roughly the same state then. :frown: A few years ago it was displayed in VF-17 colors and the wings had 6-50s probably fake as well.
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Actually that's not an F4U-1C. It's a Goodyear built FG-1D. The 20mm in the wings are fake. It confused me as well the last time I was there two years ago. The aircraft seemed to be in roughly the same state then. :frown: A few years ago it was displayed in VF-17 colors and the wings had 6-50s probably fake as well.
The plackard says that but if you zoom in on the tail section it clearly says F4U-1C mid-way up the rudder unless they put that stamp on there for effect. The VF-17 F4U is there as well in the "rehab" hanger...I believe it's hanger 5
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The plackard says that but if you zoom in on the tail section it clearly says F4U-1C mid-way up the rudder unless they put that stamp on there for effect. The VF-17 F4U is there as well in the "rehab" hanger...I believe it's hanger 5
I hope you're right and they have two Corsairs. :aok. I used to make it there every year. My last trip when I inquired about the F4U-1C in Troy Donahue's paint scheme I was told it was the old FG-1D that had been displayed as a VF-17 bird and the wings had been modified to look like a Chog. Here's a photo I took of it then. Going by your post and photos things haven't changed. :frown:
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Here is the tail section photo...about midway up the rudder you can see it. They may have mocked it up I suppose...but the curator person was adamant. Oh welll..
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I may have got some bad info. I like your version better with Cavenaugh having two Corsairs. :D
Here's another I took that day of Frau Shifty and their TBM.
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I may have got some bad info. I like your version better with Cavenaugh having two Corsairs. :D
Here's another I took that day of Frau Shifty and their TBM.
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I have no idea of what you're talking about...
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I may have got some bad info. I like your version better with Cavenaugh having two Corsairs. :D
Here's another I took that day of Frau Shifty and their TBM.
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Frau Shifty is waaay to attractive for you!! However, the aircraft numbers are the same so my thoughts are that the person I spoke with got the story backwards or the person you talked with got the story backwards. I am thinking you and I saw the same plane, its a Goodyear version mocked-up to be a 1C (Im not sure why they would do that) and there is another Corsair out there. I know there are two because I saw the second one but you couldn't get close enough to it to take a picture. Also, it could have been privately owned too...there were some fly-ins there.
The P51 ride was selling for 995.00 and the TBM ride (for 3 people!!) was selling for 750.00 per person. The line was out the door for both.
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Frau Shifty is waaay to attractive for you!!
No arguement there.
You talked to the curator so I think your version is probably correct.
The P51 ride was selling for 995.00 and the TBM ride (for 3 people!!) was selling for 750.00 per person. The line was out the door for both.
I got a ride in their Steerman back in 98, it was a blast. I'd love a flight in the Pony but it's way out of my range.
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awesome pics :aok
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No arguement there.
You talked to the curator so I think your version is probably correct.
I got a ride in their Steerman back in 98, it was a blast. I'd love a flight in the Pony but it's way out of my range.
My inlaws bought me a ride in the Texan in 2000...we did a dive bomb run on Lake Lewisville. There is a broken down concrete bridge on the south side of the lake in one of the feeder creeks and we "hit" it 5 times...it was awesome. Then the pilot peeled my face off with a flat turn that seemed to never end...that was brutal. Big fun though
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My inlaws bought me a ride in the Texan in 2000...we did a dive bomb run on Lake Lewisville. There is a broken down concrete bridge on the south side of the lake in one of the feeder creeks and we "hit" it 5 times...it was awesome. Then the pilot peeled my face off with a flat turn that seemed to never end...that was brutal. Big fun though
LOL that's too cool. :aok
We flew out to Plano on my hop which was a plus for me because that's where I grew up. There was a big hot air balloon festival there that weekend. My pilot was on the lookout for small helium baloons which had gotten away from kids down at the festival and so he could pop them with his prop. We got two kills. :lol
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From three weeks ago there is only one Corsair at the museum that I saw
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Touring Fifi was fun though
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I took in the neighborhood of 235 pics of all of the planes I could put a lens to.
Twas a good time.
Anybody going to the Alliance air show next Sat shoot me a pm. I'm planning
on being there when the gates open.
Warning.. the pics in the links are HUGE. 3008 x 2000 pixels.
Edit* they seem to do okay on a web browser though
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Nice pics. Love that Spit VIII. A combat vet from the SEAC.
Funny how in the end the Spanish used Rolls Royce Merlins on their 109s :)
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Funny how in the end the Spanish used Rolls Royce Merlins on their 109s :)
It makes it look like a P-40. Not in a good way either.
The very definition of ugly.
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Strange coincidence, was out this weekend helping out at the local museum, and we got a dark-blue WWII bird with engine trouble, nose stripped down and wings folded-up in the back of the hangar too, heh. I was out at Camarillo this Saturday and took the opportunity to take some pics of the F6F with the nose stripped down (she went into the hangar and was found to have two cracked valves a few weeks ago. It happened right on TO too so the damage may be severe since she was up there for a couple minutes before comming back down. She's waiting in her current stripped-down condition in the maintenance hangar for someone to come pickup the engine and hopefuly fix it up). Don't have them on me, I'll have to post some of them tonight.
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Funny how in the end the Spanish used Rolls Royce Merlins on their 109s :)
Funny how the Germans put Damlir Benz engines in their Spitfires. :D
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Thos eplanes are so shiny they look like they were clear coated. The 109 looks plastic. I thought maybe they were plastic parts made to complete the plane for display until they find or make the real parts. Were real planes clear coated like that? I am inclined to think not, but I have no idea. If not, I'm not sure that's a good choice for historical accuracy. Thoughts?
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Thos eplanes are so shiny they look like they were clear coated. The 109 looks plastic. I thought maybe they were plastic parts made to complete the plane for display until they find or make the real parts. Were real planes clear coated like that? I am inclined to think not, but I have no idea. If not, I'm not sure that's a good choice for historical accuracy. Thoughts?
They are waaaaaay shiny! Just like the new planes I get after I get "blowed" up by a noob. Definitely clear coated
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Strange coincidence, was out this weekend helping out at the local museum, and we got a dark-blue WWII bird with engine trouble, nose stripped down and wings folded-up in the back of the hangar too, heh. I was out at Camarillo this Saturday and took the opportunity to take some pics of the F6F with the nose stripped down (she went into the hangar and was found to have two cracked valves a few weeks ago. It happened right on TO too so the damage may be severe since she was up there for a couple minutes before comming back down. She's waiting in her current stripped-down condition in the maintenance hangar for someone to come pickup the engine and hopefuly fix it up). Don't have them on me, I'll have to post some of them tonight.
These images may appear graphic in nature to many aviation enthusiast audiences - viewer discretion is advised.
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Cover your eyes children, this lady gots her top off and legs folded up behind her head.
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Can you see what's missing from the puzzle?
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Hmmm....
She was just burning some oil on TO and came back down after a short come around, how bad can it be?
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This cylinder's clean, 17 to go.
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ruh roh...
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Well there's your problem. (actualy, the valve(s) cracked on TO, they're pictured at the top of the sleeves in the last two shots, and kinda "rattled" around a bit inside the cylinder until she set down, puncturing the piston head and chewing the !@#$ outa the thing. I was told it may of spread to the next cylinder as well, but don't really know.)
Entire album w/ more shots. http://s675.photobucket.com/albums/vv115/Babalon84/F6F-5%20Minsi-III/ (And yes, the museum is taking donations, as a whole or for specific aircraft, :pray , http://cafsocal.com/ thanks ).