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Title: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: JunkyII on October 16, 2011, 01:08:20 AM
It's so hard  :cry :cry Everyone around me smokes, any suggestions to make it easier?
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: justIN on October 16, 2011, 01:19:50 AM
Chantixx----BEST thing I have found but don't mind the weird dreams LOL. smoked pack and a half a day for 22 years, started the pill by 1 pill a day for a week while you smoke and after the 7 days stop smoking and take 2 pills a day. only issue I had was waking up wanting a smoke after eating wanting a smoke getting in the truck wanting a smoke but after 3 weeks no cravings.been almost 2 years now.
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: AAJagerX on October 16, 2011, 01:45:23 AM
I'm 1.5 years from my last cig.  The first month SUCKS.  After that you'll start feeling a whole lot better.  You have to keep on working through the urges.  You'll dream of smoking cigs, and wake up angry at yourself for breaking down.  You'll get angry for no reason.  You'll smell a smoker from 50 feet away and get a craving.  DON'T GIVE IN!!!!

Accept the fact that it's gonna be tough for a bit.  That makes it so much easier.  There's no shame in using a patch, gum, or snus to help you get through it.  Nicotine is still nicotine.  You have to beat the cig before you beat the drug.  

Trust me, it can be done.  I went batS#$% insane because I didn't realize what I was actually going through.  Luckily, my dad quit at the same time, leaving me with no option but to stick it out.  

Talk to people, stay busy, and EVERY time you get angry....   WALK AWAY!!!  In a couple of minutes, that feeling WILL go away.

If you need some outside help, PM me.  I'll be glad to help (as I'm sure alot of folks here would be as well).

Best wishes,
Jager
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: EskimoJoe on October 16, 2011, 02:06:16 AM
Any kids?

I have a suggestion that you might find interesting.

Put a picture of them on the front of an empty cigarette packet and take it with you.
When you get the craving, pull it out and remind yourself why you're quitting.

For them.

If not, disregard, listen to the ones with experience.
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: Yeager on October 16, 2011, 02:20:02 AM
There is no try only do or do not.
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: mijoieau on October 16, 2011, 03:02:21 AM
Hi
Smoking is hard to kick and i did it with electronic cigarettes i was so impressed as now run it as a business and i can tell you that in the first year i have helped over 2000 aussies kick the habit.

I also lost my best friends wife to champix and my now wife lost her last boyfriend to the same sort of drug zyban and i can tell you first hand (as i dont sell OS) that these drugs are not the way unless all else fails as in my small world i know of 3 dead people that tried to give up smoking.

My site has lots of videos that show you the products and explain it www.evpae.com.au but like i said you will need to find a US or UK site to buy from as i dont send OS buts its all the same.

1. buy a kit around $30 should last around 3 months, and buy nico juice from places like heath cabin (google that) and your on the way to a easy way to give up.

I still vape and love it even when drinking (every night)

Best thig i ever did and i can vape inside , pubs, clubs , planes and almost anywhere and like gum etc drop your nico levels or do it with nico tasting juice and be free in days.

Forkit
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: Rolex on October 16, 2011, 03:11:25 AM
Yup, it's hard, Junky.
My only suggestion is to do whatever works for you. I just threw them away and did it on nothing but organic will power. Others may need to use some "method." You make it a month and I think you'll have it licked.

I don't know anyone who has quit who has said, "You know, I wish I hadn't quit smoking..."

 Good luck!
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: mijoieau on October 16, 2011, 03:35:33 AM
Watch the video half way down the page, don't watch the boobs but what a e-cig looks like then go through the differences videos on the site (its my wifes boobs in the clips so no drool as they are brest feeding at the moment and thats kind weird)
http://www.evape.com.au/categories/eVape-Starter-Kits/

Forkit
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: BERN1 on October 16, 2011, 03:52:11 AM
smoked Marlboro reds for 25 years,woke up one day and said the heck with these they are killin me and costing 7.50 a day
you dont need patches and pills,you need will power. the first week SUCKS.  like rolex said I never heard anyone say the should have never quit.
good luck
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: Tyrannis on October 16, 2011, 04:03:26 AM
Ive never understood cigerette addiction. I smoke, but ive never felt "compelled" or addicted. Ive gone months without a smoke and never had anything more than a slight craving for one. A pack usually lasts me a month.
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: EskimoJoe on October 16, 2011, 04:30:09 AM
Ive never understood cigerette addiction. I smoke, but ive never felt "compelled" or addicted. Ive gone months without a smoke and never had anything more than a slight craving for one. A pack usually lasts me a month.

 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: JimmyC on October 16, 2011, 04:34:00 AM
Shut it Tryannus your such a smarty pants
What a stupid comment

Edit:Bit harsh but it's not like that for me and I'm trying to give up and I'm diddlying moody ATM   :furious
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: Tyrannis on October 16, 2011, 05:48:06 AM
Shut it Tryannus your such a smarty pants
What a stupid comment

Edit:Bit harsh but it's not like that for me and I'm trying to give up and I'm uplifting moody ATM   :furious
IS it?
Think about your problem. your trying to quit smoking.
Therefore, to quit something you need to discover what keeps drawing you back to smoking in the first place. Find out what makes you so addicted.

You may say its the nicotine, but is it? you say your "moody". could it be that you smoked to calm your nerves? social thing? peer pressure that you wish to get rid of?
Maybe the best way to quit, is figuring out why you smoke, then finding something else that does the same thing cigerettes do for you. but safer.

Like if you smoke to calm your nerves, find something else that calms your nerves just as good, or even better.
Social thing? just dont hang around your friends when their all lighting up. or just tell them your trying to quit, and ask them to reframe from smoking around you for the time being. their friends. they will understand.
If you believe you simply smoked due to the nicotine however, there are many items on the market to help with that.

-Identify the problem. (smoking)
-identify why you wish to quit smoking.
-identify why you started smoking in the first place, and why you continued too.
-Find a replacement for cigeretters to satisfy the reason why you smoke.
-stick with it. And eventually the cravings will go away.

Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: EskimoJoe on October 16, 2011, 05:56:59 AM
IS it?
Think about your problem. your trying to quit smoking.
Therefore, to quit something you need to discover what keeps drawing you back to smoking in the first place. Find out what makes you so addicted.

You may say its the nicotine, but is it? you say your "moody". could it be that you smoked to calm your nerves? social thing? peer pressure that you wish to get rid of?
Maybe the best way to quit, is figuring out why you smoke, then finding something else that does the same thing cigerettes do for you. but safer.

Like if you smoke to calm your nerves, find something else that calms your nerves just as good, or even better.
Social thing? just dont hang around your friends when their all lighting up. or just tell them your trying to quit, and ask them to reframe from smoking around you for the time being. their friends. they will understand.
If you believe you simply smoked due to the nicotine however, there are many items on the market to help with that.

-Identify the problem. (smoking)
-identify why you wish to quit smoking.
-identify why you started smoking in the first place, and why you continued too.
-Find a replacement for cigeretters to satisfy the reason why you smoke.
-stick with it. And eventually the cravings will go away.



Kid, you're so full of BS that you simply can't find room for spelling or grammar. Just STFU and go away.

You know nothing of the topic, and you're even trying to be like Penguin.

Quit whoring attention.
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: Tyrannis on October 16, 2011, 06:58:08 AM
Kid, you're so full of BS that you simply can't find room for spelling or grammar. Just STFU and go away.

You know nothing of the topic, and you're even trying to be like Penguin.

Quit whoring attention.
oh yea? then prove my logic wrong. how about YOU STFU and not turn this into a pursefight. because the last two you attempted to start with me did not at all go your way.

Why don't you go ask your ship mechanic and blackhawk pilot step-fathers whats the best way to quit smoking? bet they'll know just as much on the subject as they would on the flight mechanics of a vintage ww2 aircraft that you tried to pass off. do.not.start.with.me.
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: JimmyC on October 16, 2011, 07:03:34 AM
You said you never understood the addiction
Quit while your ahead
I've smoked for thirty years I know all about it.
It is mind of matter
I know that ... But it's more addictive than smack
Now if you don't mind, this don't matter
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: EskimoJoe on October 16, 2011, 07:14:41 AM
oh yea? then prove my logic wrong. how about YOU STFU and not turn this into a pursefight. because the last two you attempted to start with me did not at all go your way.

Why don't you go ask your ship mechanic and blackhawk pilot step-fathers whats the best way to quit smoking? bet they'll know just as much on the subject as they would on the flight mechanics of a vintage ww2 aircraft that you tried to pass off. do.not.start.with.me.


lol.

I'd expect the same response from a 13 year old girl.

Shocker.
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: Cheese on October 16, 2011, 07:22:17 AM
Junky,

Gum...lots of it..Sunflower seeds.

The first day was hell - and once I made it through the first day w/o a smoke, I told myself I'm NEVER going through that AGAIN!  After that, I had minor cravings, but nothing like the first day.  Last smoke over 20 years ago.

Good luck,

Cheese
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: Tyrannis on October 16, 2011, 07:24:47 AM
lol.

I'd expect the same response from a 13 year old girl.

Shocker.
From your last post, you would know what a retort from a 13 yr old looked liked, wouldnt you?
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: mechanic on October 16, 2011, 07:34:01 AM
Tyrannis, seriously....


Junky, it is one of the hardest things to quit. I smoked fr about 15 years but managed to quit for good 7.5 months ago now. I just went to bed one night and said 'tomorrow I will no longer be a smoker'. I would not recomend any of the methods unless will power alone is failing you. If you truly want to quit it should be easy to not smoke.

After one day you have something to lose by going back, you lose that one day of not smoking. After a week it's a bigger loss if you go back. After several months the urge to not throw away all your hard work makes it easy to not go back.When you truly want to quit, you will.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: ACE on October 16, 2011, 08:44:01 AM
I'm  sorry but joe had no reason to snap?
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: Spikes on October 16, 2011, 09:03:23 AM
IS it?
Think about your problem. your trying to quit smoking.
Therefore, to quit something you need to discover what keeps drawing you back to smoking in the first place. Find out what makes you so addicted.

You may say its the nicotine, but is it? you say your "moody". could it be that you smoked to calm your nerves? social thing? peer pressure that you wish to get rid of?
Maybe the best way to quit, is figuring out why you smoke, then finding something else that does the same thing cigerettes do for you. but safer.

Like if you smoke to calm your nerves, find something else that calms your nerves just as good, or even better.
Social thing? just dont hang around your friends when their all lighting up. or just tell them your trying to quit, and ask them to reframe from smoking around you for the time being. their friends. they will understand.
If you believe you simply smoked due to the nicotine however, there are many items on the market to help with that.

-Identify the problem. (smoking)
-identify why you wish to quit smoking.
-identify why you started smoking in the first place, and why you continued too.
-Find a replacement for cigeretters to satisfy the reason why you smoke.
-stick with it. And eventually the cravings will go away.


We have the master among us, bow before him.

Whether you're lying about smoking or not, some people don't have it that easy.
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: Nefarious on October 16, 2011, 09:39:16 AM
I've been smoke free for nearly 5 years. I smoked my first cigarette at 12 and quit when I was 26. I was smoking a pack day by the time I was 18/19 and by the time I was 24 I was suffering from it in the form I was having trouble breathing.

I quit using the patch (through a WV state program for free) and chewing on cut down straws which I chewed to bits. Rosie and I tried to quit at the same time and she failed and is still smoking.

If you can beat the first few months, you are doing good. Those were the toughest for me.

But then again, I'm a Steeler fan, what do I know?  :D  ;) good luck, it's tough.
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: gyrene81 on October 16, 2011, 09:51:00 AM
Ive never understood cigerette addiction. I smoke, but ive never felt "compelled" or addicted. Ive gone months without a smoke and never had anything more than a slight craving for one. A pack usually lasts me a month.
if a pack lasts you more than a week, you're not really smoking, you're a cigarette waster. what little you actually inhale at the stage you're in will give you a slight head rush but that's it, no cravings, no habits. if you continue and start actually getting your lungs full, you will find yourself making excuses for lighting up a cigarette, because your brain is going to want to experience that little rush. the more often you smoke a cigarette the more often you're going to want one. before you know it you will be at 5 a day, then 10 a day and by then very few people can simply quit.

you should stop now before you end up trying to break the habit.


good luck junky, i've tried and only went smoke free for a year...one long night in a new orleans bar and i was hooked again.
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: dkff49 on October 16, 2011, 09:52:44 AM
I smoked over a pack a day for more than 20 yrs. I too will say it, it will most likely be one of the hardest things you will ever do. During that more than 20 yrs of smoking I tried at least 15 times to quit smoking. Chantix was what finally got me over the addiction and now it has been about 5 yrs now and still have cravings occasionally.

Tyrannis, I have only this to say. If all you smoke is a pack a month, that is no where near the same thing as those of us who SMOKE. Not trying to be rude, but you hardly form an addiction by having a cigarette a day, no comparison.

Some people are also more prone to addictions than others and this can create issues with trying to get over them as well. I happen to fall into this category. For example, in the past I developed an addiction to Norflex, which is supposed to be pretty rare. I even had to ween myself off it. I was able to that but I think it was a due to only being on it for a couple of days, but when stopping (since it did not work) I noticed sweats, nausea, and jitters that stopped about 1/2 hour after taking a single dose again. The fact is that every persons chemistry is different and handles these chemicals in a different way and Junky you will need to find something that works for you.

Chantix made it so easy for me that I called it cheating and I have never looked back and I will always highly recommend using it. With that I also would say that watch your reaction to others around you and even maybe have them keep an eye out to, it can make you become somewhat aggressive and edgy (not quite like quitting cold turkey).

I really have no pointers for doing cold turkey as I was never able to do it that way. Stick to it though man, it will be hard but worth it in the end. If you can't make that way, then look for another but never give up.

Good Luck Junky
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: PFactorDave on October 16, 2011, 11:01:36 AM
For me, it took a 25 foot fall while working that put me in the hospital for two weeks.  Two weeks of serious painkillers and forced "cold turkey" on the cigarettes.  I can't say that I would recommend the process though.
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: james on October 16, 2011, 03:35:56 PM
I'm 1 year 3 months from my last 2 pack a day habit. I had to learn to drive a car without one.
I had to relearn my whole day away from the smoking area at work.
Yeah I can smell a smoker from 50 feet away now. Food tastes tremendous now! I washed all my clothes and cleaned the inside of the car on the first week. If you have smoked you know the color of the wash water after you've done that. If you can get past the firs 48 hours the rest is habit of the
muscle memory. The physical need is gone. Now it's simply who is stronger, you or the mind control device you suck on at break time.
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: jimson on October 16, 2011, 09:06:58 PM
The reason occasional smokers don't understand the cigarette addiction is that they are not addicted.

I'll help you understand:

Imagine the strongest craving you ever felt for food, or drink.

Multiply that by 1000.
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: Old Sport on October 16, 2011, 11:43:29 PM
I too was addicted to cigs and managed to be freed from them, more than 30 years ago, but my story is a little different.

I feel for all you that are still battling cravings.   :salute

I was up to a pack and a half a day in the USMC in the '70's around lots of other smokers. The only alternative I knew of then was Skoal, which I dipped for 6 months or so. But it is rather disgusting on a regular basis, doesn't exactly draw the babes, and the inside of my mouth was turning into leather and probably a precursor carcinoma. I reluctantly went back to cigs. I knew I wanted to quit so I simply tried to stop buying. After a day or two of intense cravings, especially after meals, I'd dig around in the bedroom wastebasket for an interim half-smoked butt, and then would just give in totally and buy a new carton. At this time I was turning to faith in God, so I did ask for his help and was continuously promising God I'd quit "after this I finish this pack." This recurring cycle of trying not to buy, and of giving in after a day or two, simply unable to stand the intense cravings, went on for six months.

Finally, one evening in my offbase apt I'd just given in again, bought a new pack and had just lit up the third one. It hit me that I simply did not have the power to quit, and knew I'd be unable to honor my promise to God to quit. I was moved by regret and simply admitted to God that I could not quit on my own, though I wanted to very much. At that moment I experienced an extremely powerful sensation (the power of the Holy Spirit for the biblically inclined) which lasted about 20 minutes. (I was a radar tech and had been shocked a number of times, including once by a capacitor of 20,000 volts. The experience in my apt was not an instantaneous jolt, but it was just as palpable.) After the intensity of this experience subsided I took that fresh pack with 17 fine cigarettes and threw them in the bedroom wastebasket and left them there for more than 4 months, never touching another smoke again. I was free, and I give thanks to God for it. So, in addition to the other suggestions above, you might add prayer if you are so inclined.

By the way, ever thought about changing "Junky" to something a little more positive?   ;)
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: CAP1 on October 16, 2011, 11:57:27 PM
hypno therapy....i know 3 people that've successfully quit very easily with that.
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: jimson on October 17, 2011, 12:11:06 AM
forkit

I own several ecigs but they still haven't got me off smoking yet. They are better than nothing but they don't quite quench the craving. I am hopeful someday I can motivate myself.

However if you are going to claim you know people who died from Chantix and Zyban, you ought to tell us the circumstances. Allergic reaction? I suspect you will say suicide brought on by the psychological effects since these drugs are of an antidepressant variety, but that really wouldn't be able to be proven, would it?

In any case, sorry for the loss of your friends

I also lost my best friends wife to champix and my now wife lost her last boyfriend to the same sort of drug zyban and i can tell you first hand (as i dont sell OS) that these drugs are not the way unless all else fails as in my small world i know of 3 dead people that tried to give up smoking.
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: mijoieau on October 17, 2011, 02:45:55 AM
The people i knew:
were normal people that got the drugs from their local doctors without any hassle just mentioned that they wanted to give up, these drugs were not made to give up smoking but they were a psychotic behavior (for people that are out of it and should be locked away)

A quick and easy search will show stuff like:
thinking of using Champix of the following safety information for the drug:

Patients taking Champix, as well as their families and friends, are reminded to be aware of any unusual thoughts, feelings or behaviours, especially those related to depression, aggression or self-harm. Patients should stop the drug immediately if there are such concerns.
Tell your doctor if you have experienced depression or other mental health problems before taking Champix, as these symptoms may worsen while taking the drug.
Patients are also reminded to avoid driving a car or operating hazardous machinery until they are reasonably certain that Champix does not affect them adversely.
Health Canada is currently working with Pfizer, the manufacturer of Champix, to update the prescribing information to reflect current safety information. This update is the result of continuing reports, in Canada and internationally, of serious psychiatric symptoms associated with the use of Champix, and is intended to increase awareness of this risk. Label changes will be communicated to consumers and health care professionals when finalized.

All i can tell you is that i wish the 3 people i knew still smoked and didnt go mad, they were normal people that in weeks turned, and they turned on everyone around them and the only thing that had changes was they all took the same drugs.

Again google is your friend have a look in forums and other sites to see how bad these drugs really are.

Myself as a very on edge person i know that any drug like this would be a no no but then some can quit and have no bad affects due to the drugs original use i would hope that doctors and the users read into what the drug was originally used for before they worked out that all the pycos gave up by chance when on these tables.

Forkit
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: Elfie on October 17, 2011, 06:46:05 AM
I quit. Yes, I'm a quitter.   :rock

I was smoking 2 packs a day and I'd been smoking for 27 years when I quit. I read a book by a guy named Allen Carr. I'd never made it more than 8 hours before I was ready to rip someone's head off and crap down their neck. After reading the book I put down the cigs and never picked one up again. And, it was easy. I didn't experience any of the usual symptoms while trying to stop either.

Mr. Carr used to run smoking cessation clinics and had a 95% success rate. You can find his book (http://www.amazon.com/Easy-Way-Stop-Smoking-Non-smokers/dp/1402771630/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_1) at Amazon.com. Unfortunately, Mr. Carr died from lung cancer in 2006. It's estimated that he helped as many as 10 million people kick the habit in his clinics.

Good luck in your quest to become a quitter Sir.
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: JunkyII on October 21, 2011, 08:46:49 AM
Got back to my COP where everyone smokes or dips.....and gave in  :cry

Definately cut way back from what I was at...trying the wheening method.

(Use a bit of Obama here)

Let me be clear...my life is more stressful then yours might ever be and I've been smoking a pack a day for a long time...and all the people I work with can actually buy cigs legally kid
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: gyrene81 on October 21, 2011, 10:13:21 AM
The people i knew:
were normal people that got the drugs from their local doctors without any hassle just mentioned that they wanted to give up, these drugs were not made to give up smoking but they were a psychotic behavior (for people that are out of it and should be locked away)

A quick and easy search will show stuff like:
thinking of using Champix of the following safety information for the drug:

Patients taking Champix, as well as their families and friends, are reminded to be aware of any unusual thoughts, feelings or behaviours, especially those related to depression, aggression or self-harm. Patients should stop the drug immediately if there are such concerns.
Tell your doctor if you have experienced depression or other mental health problems before taking Champix, as these symptoms may worsen while taking the drug.
Patients are also reminded to avoid driving a car or operating hazardous machinery until they are reasonably certain that Champix does not affect them adversely.
Health Canada is currently working with Pfizer, the manufacturer of Champix, to update the prescribing information to reflect current safety information. This update is the result of continuing reports, in Canada and internationally, of serious psychiatric symptoms associated with the use of Champix, and is intended to increase awareness of this risk. Label changes will be communicated to consumers and health care professionals when finalized.

All i can tell you is that i wish the 3 people i knew still smoked and didnt go mad, they were normal people that in weeks turned, and they turned on everyone around them and the only thing that had changes was they all took the same drugs.

Again google is your friend have a look in forums and other sites to see how bad these drugs really are.

Myself as a very on edge person i know that any drug like this would be a no no but then some can quit and have no bad affects due to the drugs original use i would hope that doctors and the users read into what the drug was originally used for before they worked out that all the pycos gave up by chance when on these tables.

Forkit
sorry you experienced such tragedy forkit. the warnings are and have been very clear for almost as long as the drug has been on the market. anyone with underlying mental issues, especially depression to any degree should absolutely stop taking the drug if they experience any changes in their behavior, or not be given the drug in the first place. not many people are willing to admit they have depression to any degree, especially those who appear to be outwardly normal and lead fullfilling lives, but there are signs. in my opinion a good doctor will monitor their patients if/when the prescribe drugs like chantix.

the thing is, chantix works if you follow the process. when my doc prescribed chantix to me a couple of years ago, she insisted that i return for follow up visits every 2 weeks for the first month just to monitor me. i didn't experience anything more than very bizarre dreams. nothing scary but, seriously strange and everything i experienced throughout the day got mixed into the dreams, including television shows.
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: Tigger29 on October 21, 2011, 12:24:52 PM
It's so hard  :cry :cry Everyone around me smokes, any suggestions to make it easier?

I haven't read this thread so I don't know if it's been covered or not but here's how I see it - Don't worry about the people smoking around you.  I know it sucks but it isn't them smoking making it suck it's the normal addiction issues one faces when quitting smoking.

Yes it might be easier if you were removed from people smoking around you but that's something you're just going to have to learn to deal with.  If you're going to cave just because you're with someone who is smoking then you haven't really quit have you?

When I quit half of my coworkers smoked (inside the building and next to me while I worked).  Also half of my family smoked when I went to visit.  Even most of my closest friends smoked too!  Yet I didn't let it bother me and now.. two and a half years later.. when someone lights up near me it doesn't even occur to me that I might want one.

I quit with the gum.  I had been thinking about quitting anyway and I was in Walgreens to buy some personal items and I saw the gum was on sale half off so I bought a box for when I was ready to quit.  On the way home I was thinking "Well hell I have the gum might as well quit now!"  So then I reached a compromise with myself, telling myself I would quit as soon as I was done with that pack.  So then I opened the pack and there was only one left!  So I figured... "Well I guess this is it then!" and I smoked it down all the way to the filter taking my time to enjoy it one last time.. and that was the last one I had!

A few weeks later I went back for more nicotine gum and it wasn't on sale anymore.  Then my "cheap side" kicked in.. "HELL NO I'M NOT PAYING $50 FOR A BOX OF GUM!" so I got some trident instead.  A few days later my jaw was sore from chewing gum all this time and I had had enough so I quit chewing gum.  And that was that!

Of course I put on about 50 lbs over the next couple years but I'm not slowly working that off too.

It's funny because I'll go several weeks and then I'll start craving a cigarette.  Just enough to be mildly annoying.  Then I'll have a dream where I'm smoking a cigarette and as soon as I'm done I think "oh crap I quit!  dammit!" and then I wake up relieved that I didn't really smoke one and then the craving is gone for a few more weeks!
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: guncrasher on October 21, 2011, 12:29:58 PM
I work in a steel mill, most guys around me smoke but I quit using wellbutrin.  that was 3 years ago, now our company is going smoke free and all the guys are begining to use wellbutrin to.  they like it as they dont get anxious and it's one of those things that you take and forget about it.  You dont think about quiting or stuff like it just happens.  I know you are in the combat zone so be carefully a lot of medications will make you dizzy and nauseous if you stand up quickly.  my suggestion is wait till you come back or use gum/patches then use medication when back in the states  :salute.

semp
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: perdue3 on October 21, 2011, 12:30:48 PM
It's so hard  :cry :cry Everyone around me smokes, any suggestions to make it easier?

Yes, buy a pack of Camels.
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: dirtdart on October 21, 2011, 01:53:00 PM
QUIT HANGING OUT WITH TANKERS junkyII    :lol
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: james on October 21, 2011, 03:00:50 PM
It doesn't matter who you promise you will quit smoking. You can tell god whatever you like about it. Until YOU are ready to make an effort to YOURSELF than it wont happen. Have to be selfish at quitting smoking. Don't go where people smoke, don't hit the pack of smokes after hearing a soda open or eating chocolate. Find the triggers that make you want one and stay away from them for a little while. Learn a whole new daily routine and let your new habits take over the old ones.

By the way, GOOD LUCK at it sir!
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: Wiley on October 21, 2011, 03:27:02 PM
Got back to my COP where everyone smokes or dips.....and gave in  :cry

Definately cut way back from what I was at...trying the wheening method.
(Use a bit of Obama here)

Let me be clear...my life is more stressful then yours might ever be and I've been smoking a pack a day for a long time...and all the people I work with can actually buy cigs legally kid

Heh.  Buddy of mine was a crew chief.  He was trying to quit, after 4 days at work, one of the guys on his crew walked up to him and held out a pack of smokes and just said, 'Please take them.'

I've only quit twice in my life.  I've been off them for almost 2 years now.

What worked for me was straight out cold turkey.  The first time, I quit on a Thursday, toughed it out Friday and locked myself in my house and avoided all human contact all weekend.  After that, it got better and I was able to function.  A month later my girlfriend moved in who smoked, and 3 days later I was back at it.

The second time, I got pneumonia and was pretty much in bed for a week.  It was one of maybe 2 times in my life I'd been too sick to want a cig.  After the week was up, the wife and I figured 'If I've made it this long, why not keep on?' so I did.

Tyrannis's other stuff aside, the initial comment about not feeling 'cravings' when he doesn't have a smoke does occasionally happen.  My dad has smoked all his life, he was 2 pack a day when I was a kid.  He can have a pack around, and pretty much pick them up and put them down at will, with little to no discomfort.  I don't understand how he does it, but that's the way he operates.  If I bought a pack, it would be gone in a day and I'd be buying another tomorrow.  But, everybody's different.

IMO cutting down just prolongs the agony, but I also think quitting is different for everybody.  I seem to get over the chemical addiction quickly, it's the habitual things and psychological addiction that get me.

Good luck with it, the one other thing I'll say is IMO you've got to want to quit, it's not going to work if you're doing it because you feel you should, or that it's the smart thing to do.  You've got to want to.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: katanaso on October 21, 2011, 09:35:46 PM
Junky,

If you're not in an environment where you can quit yet, don't beat yourself up over not being able to do so.  Making a concerted effort to cut back is a good first step until you're in a safe environment and can use the aid of some meds, OTC or prescription.

I quit cold turkey back in 1998.  I gave myself a date, March 1st, and as soon as 12am hit on March 1st, I threw my pack of smokes out of the window and suffered for a week.  My method was to take a lot of naps and sleep through the cravings.  I took a lot of Benadryl for 5 or 6 days, purposely getting drowsy.  I also felt like complete hell with all of the phlegm I was coughing up.  After a week, I was no longer physically craving the cigarette, which made fighting the psychological addiction much easier.  I still 'wanted' one, and would dream about them, for nearly a year.

The biggest success factor for quitting, in my opinion, is making the decisiong to quit, setting a concrete date for quitting, mentally preparing to stick it out, and attacking that challenge knowing a week or two of suck is going to pay huge dividends in life.

Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: DaCoon on October 22, 2011, 12:08:47 AM
Junky, I feel for ya bro. On my maybe 4th time this year trying to quit. I've tried the patch, the pill, and the gum.... none of it is a guaranteed method. Even weened myself from a pack a day to about half a pack a day in the last month. Only will power will get you through, but stay the course. Quitting is a dern sight better than the alternative.



            :salute
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: Anodizer on October 22, 2011, 03:14:53 PM
Weakling...... :lol 

Just quit, already! 
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: 1pLUs44 on October 22, 2011, 04:16:24 PM
From your last post, you would know what a retort from a 13 yr old looked liked, wouldnt you?

 :rofl :rofl :rofl :bolt:
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: Patches1 on October 22, 2011, 04:51:46 PM
Junky,

I have been cigarette free for 22 years now. I once smoked 1 1/2 to 2 packs of Marlboros a day. Nicotine addiction has been likened to Heroin addiction in its difficulty to break as a habit. However, I found it very easy to quit once I recognized that I had already quit smoking, while I was still smoking.

This is the key...it will only take about a month, or so, for your body to adjust to the absence of nicotine...but your brain will keep telling you that you need to keep up your habit if you haven't made social adjustments. Why? Because everything you do now revolves around smoking. Think about it...when do you not think about lighting up? Not only is cigarette smoking physically addicting, it is socially addicting. Think about that statement a moment...and ask yourself this question...how many nonsmokers do I hang around with socially for long periods of time? Be honest with yourself...no one else's opinions matter. Nonsmokers really don't enjoy being around smokers when they are smoking for very long, do they? The key to quitting is to quit smoking in your brain first (the social addiction), before you tackle the physical addiction.

Once you have overcome the social addiction, the physical addiction will only be a minor discomfiture, and you will likely never smoke again.

Oh! By the way, all of the "quit smoking" devices you find will only line the pockets of their makers with money because they know that you don't know that you must quit smoking in your brain first. I did use "the patch", but only after I realized I had already quit smoking in my brain. Thirty days after I used the first patch, I was no longer addicted physically to nicotine and have never had a craving for a cigarette since.

This has been my experience. I wish you well.


 

Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: Closer on October 22, 2011, 08:02:28 PM
Albert Einstein once said " quitting smoking is the easiest thing in the world to do.... I have done it a thousand times !
I smoked 2-3 packs a day and weed for 37 years. I made up my mind and asked God to give me strength and determination. I quit cold turkey. I chew gum and drinking straws to ease the hand/ mouth habit. Good Luck !
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: Ruah on October 22, 2011, 11:19:09 PM
Any kids?

I have a suggestion that you might find interesting.

Put a picture of them on the front of an empty cigarette packet and take it with you.
When you get the craving, pull it out and remind yourself why you're quitting.

For them.

If not, disregard, listen to the ones with experience.

lol. . .
no


gum.  very time you get a craving, chew on it.  After 90 days, the urge will subside - BUT - will never quite ever go away completely.

For me, I limit myself to 3 smokes a day, and fight the urge with gum for the rest of the day.  I figure 3 is not too bad.
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: VAMPIRE 2? on October 22, 2011, 11:52:29 PM
Aces High is as addicting as cigarettes, took me two weeks to kick the AH habit. and I'm sure I'll be back soon!
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: Ruah on October 23, 2011, 08:01:32 AM
AH2 is healthy
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: Elfie on October 24, 2011, 04:27:18 AM
lol. . .
no


gum.  every time you get a craving, chew on it.  After 90 days, the urge will subside - BUT - will never quite ever go away completely.

For me, I limit myself to 3 smokes a day, and fight the urge with gum for the rest of the day.  I figure 3 is not too bad.

As long as you keep smoking 3 cigarettes a day, the urges will NEVER go away. Stop smoking those 3 and the urges WILL go away. I've been smoke free for over 3.5 years now and have no urges. You can break the physical addiction in 72 hours.
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: JunkyII on October 24, 2011, 05:22:38 AM
AH2 is healthy
Nobody has studied the effects of AH on the human body ;)
Junky,

If you're not in an environment where you can quit yet, don't beat yourself up over not being able to do so.  Making a concerted effort to cut back is a good first step until you're in a safe environment and can use the aid of some meds, OTC or prescription.

I quit cold turkey back in 1998.  I gave myself a date, March 1st, and as soon as 12am hit on March 1st, I threw my pack of smokes out of the window and suffered for a week.  My method was to take a lot of naps and sleep through the cravings.  I took a lot of Benadryl for 5 or 6 days, purposely getting drowsy.  I also felt like complete hell with all of the phlegm I was coughing up.  After a week, I was no longer physically craving the cigarette, which made fighting the psychological addiction much easier.  I still 'wanted' one, and would dream about them, for nearly a year.

The biggest success factor for quitting, in my opinion, is making the decisiong to quit, setting a concrete date for quitting, mentally preparing to stick it out, and attacking that challenge knowing a week or two of suck is going to pay huge dividends in life.


This is so true...I thought it would be better since I'm not allowed to drink over here but I may just have to wait till Im back in the US
Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: icepac on October 26, 2011, 09:23:00 AM
A large change in your routine helps greatly.

A new job or a move means a new routine will soon be established which makes it easier to just not buy any smokes in your new unfamiliar surroundings.

You won't be able to quit if your smoking includes long smoke breaks that are social in nature at your place of employment.

Title: Re: Tying to quit smoking...
Post by: Flench on October 26, 2011, 10:45:17 AM
It's so hard  :cry :cry Everyone around me smokes, any suggestions to make it easier?
Hey JunkyII , I am using this and it work's . Called the VMOD . I went from two pack's a day to hitting this e-cig and it work's like a charm . When I start getting Nic WD I will hit this thing a few time's and I'm good . A little dirty know just pulled it out of my pocket . Been using it for 6 month's now .

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