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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Getback on October 22, 2011, 07:08:05 AM
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http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/TemporaryWishList.aspx
After 3 years of being unemployed I found a job. Not my dream job for sure but hey I'm tickled to have it. In celebration I'm thinking about this configuration.
I wonder if I need this particular i5 chip. I like it's speed. That's the only reason.
I like MSI boards as well. The power supply fits the price range. I'd like to keep it under 500 bucks or lower. Also I'm thinking about adding an aftermarket cooler. Any suggestions on that would be welcome.
I'm scavenging the case, vc, and DVD drive from my other computer. As far as the MB goes it only has one PCI-e slot. That's okay I won't be running SLI.
Let me know what you think and if you can view the list.
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congrats on finding a job! :aok
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the wishlist doesn't show. congrats on the new job!
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Thanks for the congrats on the job.
Here it is. I was afraid it was blocked.
MB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130571 $114.99
PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703027 89.99
iCore 5 Sandy bridge 2500K http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072 219.99
Ram 4 gigs DDR3 1600 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211409 29.99
Total without shipping = $474.96
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still don't understand why people are going after the p67 intel chipset mobos when they can get the z68 chipset mobos for about the same price. hell even the old x58 is superior to the p67 chipsets especially if you want to overclock. right now for intel chipsets, until the z77 chipset is released next year you want a mobo with the z68, q67 or q65 chipset.
msi z68 northbridge mobo with pci-e 3.0 and 2.0 (save $15)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130621 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130621)
i'm not a gskill fan but, it's better than adata (made for p67/z68 chipset mobos)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231427 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231427)
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still don't understand why people are going after the p67 intel chipset mobos when they can get the z68 chipset mobos for about the same price. hell even the old x58 is superior to the p67 chipsets especially if you want to overclock. right now for intel chipsets, until the z77 chipset is released next year you want a mobo with the z68, q67 or q65 chipset.
msi z68 northbridge mobo with pci-e 3.0 and 2.0 (save $15)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130621 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130621)
i'm not a gskill fan but, it's better than adata (made for p67/z68 chipset mobos)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231427 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231427)
Thanks Gyrene! I made the switch for both items. That's why I posted. Picked up an extra PCI-e slot and dropped the overall cost by $5.
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get 8 gigs ram you never know. just a few bucks more.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428
semp
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What's the difference besides speed in the icore 5 series; 2400, 2500, and 2500k?
I can save 20 bucks going with the 2400.
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2500k is unlocked so it is easier to overclock.
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only the 2500k and the 2600k can be truly overclocked. the others have and dont quote me some kind of oc throttle control.
I have my 2500k oc to 4.5. it can easily do 4.9 with no problems, but I see no point going higher than 4.5. you may say, well I dont overclock, but those 20 bucks is good insurance for the future.
semp
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With the 2500k that bumps me to 489 bucks. I wonder if newegg will be having a sale on any of those. I've got them in my wish list so I will wait and see.
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I have a very unique skill set. Once spent 18 months unemployed, worst spell ever! Congrats on that!!
Boo
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future reference, you have to make it public then find it in the search. Or copy the wishlist ID from your private one, and go to someones public one and paste your ID into it.
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you may say, well I dont overclock...
semp
:rofl Obviously you haven't been around long. This used to be a running joke:
(http://drama16.info/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Tsar-Nuclear-Explosion.jpg)
Congrats on the job Getback. I was sooo glad to get back to work a year and a half ago even though the hours were longer and the pay was (significantly) less. I was out for just over a year.
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:rofl Obviously you haven't been around long. This used to be a running joke:
(http://drama16.info/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Tsar-Nuclear-Explosion.jpg)
Congrats on the job Getback. I was sooo glad to get back to work a year and a half ago even though the hours were longer and the pay was (significantly) less. I was out for just over a year.
:rofl :rofl That's true! Had that puppy to 4 ghz at one point but never could get it to be stable.
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Look for the christmas sales Getback.
I just read a article, the chip inventory is growiing. Could meaqn some better deals ahead?
http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4227769/Gartner--Chip-inventory-levels--worrisome-
I am looking to get a new video card, waiting for a good sale. I just resigned back to AH and still get 59 fps without the high resolution pack with a 8800gt.
Also without shadows.
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still don't understand why people are going after the p67 intel chipset mobos when they can get the z68 chipset mobos for about the same price. hell even the old x58 is superior to the p67 chipsets especially if you want to overclock. right now for intel chipsets, until the z77 chipset is released next year you want a mobo with the z68, q67 or q65 chipset.
Can you show me some info as to why you think the p67 is so bad? From all of my research the only difference between the p67 and z68 is the onboard video and the ssd cache ability of the z68. The p67 is an excellent overclocking board, you must be thinking about the h67. Please point me in the right direction to show me the p67s are as horrible as you make them out to be.
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In what the h67 is not good? I have a i5-2300 with an ASUS p8h67 and so far everything is fine. Sure I run everything stock and wont look to OC anything ever. Too much of a pain in the a** if you ask why. But I'm still curious as to the pros and cons about these p/h67 chipsets.
:salute
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In what the h67 is not good? I have a i5-2300 with an ASUS p8h67 and so far everything is fine. Sure I run everything stock and wont look to OC anything ever. Too much of a pain in the a** if you ask why. But I'm still curious as to the pros and cons about these p/h67 chipsets.
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the only problem with the h67 is that it is not over clockable. but if you have no plans to overclock then its not really a problem.
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Ha! Ok, it's all good then :aok
Thx
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Can you show me some info as to why you think the p67 is so bad? From all of my research the only difference between the p67 and z68 is the onboard video and the ssd cache ability of the z68. The p67 is an excellent overclocking board, you must be thinking about the h67. Please point me in the right direction to show me the p67s are as horrible as you make them out to be.
i didn't say "horrible", but i did point out the first gen of p67 and h67 (b2) chipsets were recalled due to a bug that made their sata3.0 to degrade to the point of being unusable. if you look at the intel propaganda sheets there are some minute differences between the p67 slh84 (b2) and the replacement p67 slj4c (b3), though you wouldn't notice anything on a system unless you were stressing it.
the z68 (b3) chipset supports the sandy bridge integrated gpu that allows simultaneous 3d and transcoding acceleration, it also supports pci-e 3.0 and intel smart response technology for ssd caching where the other 2 do not.
bottom line is considering the current price difference between a z68 mobo and a p67 mobo, if you're currently in the market to buy a new intel motherboard, the smart choice is with the z68, even if the only thing you're looking for is the ability to overclock.
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i didn't say "horrible", but i did point out the first gen of p67 and h67 (b2) chipsets were recalled due to a bug that made their sata3.0 to degrade to the point of being unusable. if you look at the intel propaganda sheets there are some minute differences between the p67 slh84 (b2) and the replacement p67 slj4c (b3), though you wouldn't notice anything on a system unless you were stressing it.
the z68 (b3) chipset supports the sandy bridge integrated gpu that allows simultaneous 3d and transcoding acceleration, it also supports pci-e 3.0 and intel smart response technology for ssd caching where the other 2 do not.
bottom line is considering the current price difference between a z68 mobo and a p67 mobo, if you're currently in the market to buy a new intel motherboard, the smart choice is with the z68, even if the only thing you're looking for is the ability to overclock.
My p67 board is also pci-e 3.0 and all p67 boards are b3 now. The b2s were the problems but have since been corrected with the b3. I chose the P67 because I don't need the on board video as i have a dedicated video card and do not use my ssd for caching (and have yet to hear of anyone actually using this feature). There is nothing wrong with the p67 boards but you seem to bash them every chance you get. I was hoping you had more to base your negativity on than just the 2 options that no one really uses.
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yeah pointing to the b2 defects as reasons to not buy he b3 is misleading. pointing out that the newer generation of mobos are most likely better in the just in case scenario is cool. I have a msi p67 b3, love it dont have any problems, great sound and it overclocks my sandy bridge like crazy. I can do 4.9 with no sweat for 24/7. if the newer mobo's can do more than 4.9 then more power to them as I dont think the average user could tell the difference.
semp
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My p67 board is also pci-e 3.0 and all p67 boards are b3 now. The b2s were the problems but have since been corrected with the b3. I chose the P67 because I don't need the on board video as i have a dedicated video card and do not use my ssd for caching (and have yet to hear of anyone actually using this feature). There is nothing wrong with the p67 boards but you seem to bash them every chance you get. I was hoping you had more to base your negativity on than just the 2 options that no one really uses.
well since you don't want to find the information yourself, i'll just leave you with your thoughts.
one thing, if you were looking for a mobo right now, and had a choice between the mobo you have
$155.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157265 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157265)
and a mobo from the same manufacturer with a better chipset
$125.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271)
which one would you choose? which one would you tell a friend to buy?
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Look for the christmas sales Getback.
I just read a article, the chip inventory is growiing. Could meaqn some better deals ahead?
http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4227769/Gartner--Chip-inventory-levels--worrisome-
I am looking to get a new video card, waiting for a good sale. I just resigned back to AH and still get 59 fps without the high resolution pack with a 8800gt.
Also without shadows.
Thanks Cattb!
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well since you don't want to find the information yourself, i'll just leave you with your thoughts.
one thing, if you were looking for a mobo right now, and had a choice between the mobo you have
$155.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157265 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157265)
and a mobo from the same manufacturer with a better chipset
$125.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271)
which one would you choose? which one would you tell a friend to buy?
gyrene not a fair comparison. look at this mobo that I have.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130574
you can probably find a better mobo. however when I got it, it was one of the best. now based on my own experience if a friend would ask me, I would say get it as it has served me well and it is awesome. and you can probably say the same thing about the ps, vc, ram, computer case. I would recommend all of them and say get them as they are awesome. in my opinion of course.
but seriously it's like getting a sata 2 or a sata 3 hd. is sata3 better than sata 2? cause there's a lot of threads arguing that same thing.
so it comes down to recommend what we have experience on. and me I would recommend my mobo till the day I get another one and I would not be lying about it as I love mine and I dont think there's really another one that can really make a difference with me. if I needed another mobo, would I get the same one? probably no, only based on the fact that I would get one to kindda insure me against the "just in case" situation.
semp
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well since you don't want to find the information yourself, i'll just leave you with your thoughts.
one thing, if you were looking for a mobo right now, and had a choice between the mobo you have
$155.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157265 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157265)
and a mobo from the same manufacturer with a better chipset
$125.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271)
which one would you choose? which one would you tell a friend to buy?
I am asking you to provide the information to me. As I have researched the difference in the H67/P67/Z68 but have not found the flaws you seem to know of. I am just asking for your sources or something to guide me better than "I'll just leave you with your thoughts". You got the original poster to change what he originally wanted by spouting about how inferior the p67 chipset is. I am just wanting to see what I may have missed in my research. Also that is a cute trick with the links up there as one is in fact my MB but the z68 board is not the same version. Here is the same version http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157264
$199.99 vs my $155.00. If I should have spent $45 more please show me why so I don't make the same mistake on my next build. :salute
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Forgive my lack of "computerese"... What exactly does this much stuff do for gameplay, how far can it go and does it make a difference in flight and ACM?
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Kinda funny when I read these forums, seems to be a meeting place for those who believe they have the answer and wind up in a pissin contest with someone else who believes the same thing.
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Forgive my lack of "computerese"... What exactly does this much stuff do for gameplay, how far can it go and does it make a difference in flight and ACM?
this is the hardware and software forum. I believe what you are looking for is the training arena
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Kinda funny when I read these forums, seems to be a meeting place for those who believe they have the answer and wind up in a pissin contest with someone else who believes the same thing.
not a pissing contest at all. I am seriously trying to figure out the problems with p67 boards as I've seemed to miss something while doing my research. Just trying to find out what that is and why they are inferior.
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I like it when I get several different views on things.
With Motherboards that almost always happens. That way I get a bit more insight.
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not a pissing contest at all. I am seriously trying to figure out the problems with p67 boards as I've seemed to miss something while doing my research. Just trying to find out what that is and why they are inferior.
silver and semp...after spending the morning going through all the downloaded data sheets and bookmarks i have on my work system, and i must admit a major brain fart...everything i have been talking about with the p67 is actually first gen (step b2) h67 information compared to the z68. the only differences between the second gen step b3 p67 and z68 are native support for embedded graphics, embedded grahics acceleration, intel lossless digital audio, embedded gigabit lan, and storage i/o caching...the p67 doesn't have native support for those features but they're not core features.
you called it right semp, first gen vs second gen not to mention different chip all together. sorry, the info i was recalling off the top of my skull was old and irrelevant to the current p67 and z68.
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:aok :salute :cheers:
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:salute :cheers:
semp
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Forgive my lack of "computerese"... What exactly does this much stuff do for gameplay, how far can it go and does it make a difference in flight and ACM?
all this hardware makes the game look prettier and in some cases smoother. but it doesnt give you skill, sorry, it does make you say "damn that was a pretty nice looking plane" as he shoots you down :D.
semp
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Semp
I was going to get that MB for my upgrade but I saw too many negative remarks on the 1st page about them crapping out with in the 1st 3 months so thats why i went with the one I ordered.
LanDart
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I just picked up and installed my second evga 465. cant tell the difference for sure, but now I got two :D. I'll wait till xmas to get my 3rd monitor then I can fully utilize my second card :x :x.
semp
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Semp you will see that you dont have a loss in framerate in big furballs..LOL and its neat to have 3 monitors setup ..