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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: A8balls on October 22, 2011, 01:34:05 PM
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I really love this game. I really like everyone that plays. I really enjoy the banter on 200. But.... I can't stand the players that get killed and start blaming THEIR death on another player's game play. Player "X" gets killed while playing his way. Then jumps on 200 to let player "Y" know that "X" was picked, vulched, HO'd, AFK, RTB winchster, PWd or any other reason "X" can think of to let "Y" know he got an easy kill. If you don't expect to get shot down in this game, stick to checkers or darts, but DON'T be a "X" player. Die with dignity.
Thanks for the vent folks. <S>
Now..... flame "on".
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haha far too many "X" type players all ready ingame.
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i never tune to 200, who cares what a few cry babies say
dhawk
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The other side of the coin is kill with dignity.
Fight if you can, avoid ho'ing
Don't jump on the guy fighting 3 v 1
Don't convince your squad to join someones mission, and then say you're doing squad ops . :devil
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i never tune to 200, who cares what a few cry babies say
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Player "X" was whining?! I take offense! Could we change that to Player "Z"? :D
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I really love this game. I really like everyone that plays. I really enjoy the banter on 200. But.... I can't stand the players that get killed and start blaming THEIR death on another player's game play. Player "X" gets killed while playing his way. Then jumps on 200 to let player "Y" know that "X" was picked, vulched, HO'd, AFK, RTB winchster, PWd or any other reason "X" can think of to let "Y" know he got an easy kill. If you don't expect to get shot down in this game, stick to checkers or darts, but DON'T be a "X" player. Die with dignity.
Thanks for the vent folks. <S>
Now..... flame "on".
:salute couldn't agree more, 200 whiners are the lowest form of life!
now I just don't bother tuning it to avoid drowning in bad vibes :old:
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:rofl :banana:
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I don't wish to whine everytime I'm shot down ,but the 1v5 ho gang lemmings can spark a reaction from me. Sue me! :cheers:
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It is funny to see how people behave on this cartoon game. Some treat this game as it is important and shows their ability to do something that has to do with REAL LIFE.
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If one wanted....
It's totally impossible to get into these situations, like a HO, or a 1v5 etc.
Poor situation awareness, impulsiveness, lack of a plan, and generally poor tactics get a pilot to a point when they have to cry about how they got HO'd or how they got ganged, or vulched, or picked, or anything else that is complained about.
IMHO all those things that are complained about are perfectly valid, and (obviously) allowed tactics, and should be exploited whenever possible.
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The other side of the coin is kill with dignity.
Fight if you can, avoid ho'ing
Don't jump on the guy fighting 3 v 1
Agreed.
- oldman
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It is funny to see how people behave on this cartoon game. Some treat this game as it is important and shows their ability to do something that has to do with REAL LIFE.
Well we could just sit on the boards and share our opinions on the subject like it has anything to do with real life.
If one wanted....
It's totally impossible to get into these situations, like a HO, or a 1v5 etc.
Poor situation awareness, impulsiveness, lack of a plan, and generally poor tactics get a pilot to a point when they have to cry about how they got HO'd or how they got ganged, or vulched, or picked, or anything else that is complained about.
IMHO all those things that are complained about are perfectly valid, and (obviously) allowed tactics, and should be exploited whenever possible.
Blah, blah, we could justavoid shooting at others airplanes all together.
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:aok
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Ch 200 rocks, timid pickets who only fight with overwhelming numbers suck, and Midway should be squelched.
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Midway should be squelched.
+1 and he has a relative flying knits, feardeth, who could use some squelching too.
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Ch 200 rocks, timid pickets who only fight with overwhelming numbers suck, and Midway should be squelched.
:rofl :rofl
Few statements ring so true as this one! :aok
JUGgler
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I admit to jumping on 200 for a quick vent now and then but I usually refrain from such antics unless it's a little good ribbing.
What I really take pleasure in is poking those X players with a stick and getting them all wound up (http://freeemoticonsandsmileys.com/animated%20emoticons/Funny%20Animated%20Emoticons/stick%20with%20poke.gif)
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Ch 200 rocks, timid pickets who only fight with overwhelming numbers suck, and Midway should be squelched.
Is it me, or does Midway sound/act a lot like VansCrew??? :headscratch:
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Whats channel 200??
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It's called ego,and some people are going to make an idiot out of there self.They are the same people that annoy other people in real life,but they have a real chance to be half wits on 200.Don't tune it,and you will be better off.
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I really love this game. I really like everyone that plays. I really enjoy the banter on 200. But.... I can't stand the players that get killed and start blaming THEIR death on another player's game play. Player "X" gets killed while playing his way. Then jumps on 200 to let player "Y" know that "X" was picked, vulched, HO'd, AFK, RTB winchster, PWd or any other reason "X" can think of to let "Y" know he got an easy kill. If you don't expect to get shot down in this game, stick to checkers or darts, but DON'T be a "X" player. Die with dignity.
Thanks for the vent folks. <S>
Now..... flame "on".
i don't tune 200. too puerile.
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I really love this game. I really like everyone that plays. I really enjoy the banter on 200. But.... I can't stand the players that get killed and start blaming THEIR death on another player's game play. Player "X" gets killed while playing his way. Then jumps on 200 to let player "Y" know that "X" was picked, vulched, HO'd, AFK, RTB winchster, PWd or any other reason "X" can think of to let "Y" know he got an easy kill. If you don't expect to get shot down in this game, stick to checkers or darts, but DON'T be a "X" player. Die with dignity.
Thanks for the vent folks. <S>
Now..... flame "on".
I stuck a dart in my brothers skull once by mistake when playing garden battle darts.
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Ch 200 rocks, timid pickets who only fight with overwhelming numbers suck, and Midway should be squelched.
Midway anoying girlyboys is the best :salute
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I really love this game. I really like everyone that plays. I really enjoy the banter on 200. But.... I can't stand the players that get killed and start blaming THEIR death on another player's game play. Player "X" gets killed while playing his way. Then jumps on 200 to let player "Y" know that "X" was picked, vulched, HO'd, AFK, RTB winchster, PWd or any other reason "X" can think of to let "Y" know he got an easy kill. If you don't expect to get shot down in this game, stick to checkers or darts, but DON'T be a "X" player. Die with dignity.
Thanks for the vent folks. <S>
Now..... flame "on".
Because fun for those players is dog fighting. When you pick them, they lose valuable time re upping and flying around trying to find a dog fight again. Their fun/time drops. When the picker, vulchers, etc are in full force. Dogfighters don't have any fun for hours at a time. so they get a little grouchy.
And losing is not the reason they aren't having fun. Losing a dog fight is fun. Getting picked or vulched is like getting sucker punched by the ref in a boxing match.
Vulching and picking have to happen from time to time depending on the situation, and yes there are people who whine about everything. But don't pretend you can't understand why folks are justified many times, for complaining about Hoing, vulching, and picking. If you can't understand it, you don't really apreciate a good dogfight. And if you can't appreciate a good dogfight, why are you playing this game? If you like to blast lots of enemies that are in no position to fight back, play Space Invaders.
:salute
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Because fun for those players is dog fighting. When you pick them, they lose valuable time re upping and flying around trying to find a dog fight again. Their fun/time drops. When the picker, vulchers, etc are in full force. Dogfighters don't have any fun for hours at a time. so they get a little grouchy.
And losing is not the reason they aren't having fun. Losing a dog fight is fun. Getting picked or vulched is like getting sucker punched by the ref in a boxing match.
Vulching and picking have to happen from time to time depending on the situation, and yes there are people who whine about everything. But don't pretend you can't understand why folks are justified many times, for complaining about Hoing, vulching, and picking. If you can't understand it, you don't really apreciate a good dogfight. And if you can't appreciate a good dogfight, why are you playing this game? If you like to blast lots of enemies that are in no position to fight back, play Space Invaders.
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Don't we have the DA for pure dogfights if you're into that kind of thing? :headscratch:
The fact is a lot of players like a good exciting fight, it's not some tiny elite club of people in the whole game who actually like a real fight...and I'm pretty certain we ALL dislike being vulched, picked or HO'd and being denied that good fight.
The difference is some people have maturity, self control and perspective that prevents them from acting like whiny little ****'s over dying in an online computer game. A lot of other players seem to have gone their whole lives without growing up :) Probably explains why they are constantly playing Aces High as well...
Just my opinion though, feel free to carry on making excuses for people who make excuses for being killed ;>
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Don't we have the DA for pure dogfights if you're into that kind of thing? :headscratch:
The fact is a lot of players like a good exciting fight, it's not some tiny elite club of people in the whole game who actually like a real fight...and I'm pretty certain we ALL dislike being vulched, picked or HO'd and being denied that good fight.
The difference is some people have maturity, self control and perspective that prevents them from acting like whiny little ****'s over dying in an online computer game. A lot of other players seem to have gone their whole lives without growing up :) Probably explains why they are constantly playing Aces High as well...
Just my opinion though, feel free to carry on making excuses for people who make excuses for being killed ;>
:salute Coomz,
Well these are different problems. Some people are better at handling when they are ticked off than others. There are two ways to reduce "ticked off reactions" which no one wants or likes.
1) send everyone to anger management therapy so they handle being ticked off with more grace and aplumb.
2) Do a little less of what ticks people off.
Number two is the more powerful of the two. If your gameplay ticks people off, statements like "I play the way I want to play" don't absolve yourself of the responsibility to stop being a ----. :aok
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My cartoon deaths are usually from trees or lack of parts. Not all but most. :D
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Midway saluted me the other day after I shot him down. At least he gets out there and mixes it up.
Rarely have I've been attacked on 200. If I do, they get squelched immediately.
A couple of month's ago someone got irritated at me for picking them. It soon turned into some fun banter. He said all my kills were picks after landing 8 kills. I replied, they all were red. In the end he admitted to getting picked while picking. Though he wasn't technically picking, he was stall fighting in a furball.
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Die with dignity, sure as soon as others fight with dignity. Once all the hoer's are gone, and the gangers stay out of a good 1 on 1, even a 1 on 2 we can talk about dignity.
5 times I tangled with midway last week. 4 times he hoed me, and the 5th I rammed him as I caught him typing.
This game has evolved too musicch into getting kills as opposed to fighting.
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What I find the perfect kill in AH is exactly the opposite as general misconception in 200 ch: Kill the enemy without have been detected.
Then you 'll have the whine on CH200: picker, vulcher, *tard,....
But you know what, In my head, maybe wrongly, I have the image of real WWII pilots trying to kill without putting themselves in a dangerous situation. That's the way I like playing the game.
Then It comes the opinion that if you kill 1 vs 1 in a tight fight untill you die or survive.......well..I can not imagine WWII pilots looking for that situation in real war. Anyway, there are players who think that's the only way you prove your flying skills.....who knows....
The opposite stands the same for me, when it is the case I die....wtg to all the pilots who killed me and I didnt even realized they were there.
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Don't confuse a game with reality :)
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What I find the perfect kill in AH is exactly the opposite as general misconception in 200 ch: Kill the enemy without have been detected.
Then you 'll have the whine on CH200: picker, vulcher, *tard,....
But you know what, In my head, maybe wrongly, I have the image of real WWII pilots trying to kill without putting themselves in a dangerous situation. That's the way I like playing the game.
Then It comes the opinion that if you kill 1 vs 1 in a tight fight untill you die or survive.......well..I can not imagine WWII pilots looking for that situation in real war. Anyway, there are players who think that's the only way you prove your flying skills.....who knows....
The opposite stands the same for me, when it is the case I die....wtg to all the pilots who killed me and I didnt even realized they were there.
Ok not being critical because I get your point. But think of it this way. How about if all the folks that like to sneak up on people and kill without detection only do it to folks playing the same way?
Imagine an MA where everyone played like that?
No action because the real war was not fun.
So to make it more exiting, the sneaky folks don't actually look for similar players stalking each other like snipers, they just get lazy and look for distracted targets. Targets that are distracted because the targets choose not to fly around being sneaky, but engaging enemies and mixing it up.
You have to give up a bit of emersion, and be just a bit considerate of your fellow players because the game will thrive when everyone has fun. Not some at the expense of others. :salute
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To me, "die with dignity" means stop lag-spazzing your stick when someone gets your six.
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Ok not being critical because I get your point. But think of it this way. How about if all the folks that like to sneak up on people and kill without detection only do it to folks playing the same way?
Imagine an MA where everyone played like that?
No action because the real war was not fun.
So to make it more exiting, the sneaky folks don't actually look for similar players stalking each other like snipers, they just get lazy and look for distracted targets. Targets that are distracted because the targets choose not to fly around being sneaky, but engaging enemies and mixing it up.
You have to give up a bit of emersion, and be just a bit considerate of your fellow players because the game will thrive when everyone has fun. Not some at the expense of others. :salute
Vinkman, I agree 100% with you (S)
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squelch the endless entertainment that is Midway?
never
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So to make it more exiting, the sneaky folks don't actually look for similar players stalking each other like snipers, they just get lazy and look for distracted targets. Targets that are distracted because the targets choose not to fly around being sneaky, but engaging enemies and mixing it up.
That's the thing, though. A lot of the guys who enjoy that playstyle go into a furball with alt, and the first thing they do is look for other high cons to engage. If they find them, it often precipitates a good high alt duel, which I find is a fairly different fight from a low alt one. Either that, or one of them dives out to friendlies. The difference is, at alt it's a lot easier to get that much-vaunted unmolested 1v1 because the other planes are too low to be a factor. It's kind of like fighting above a pit of snakes though, if you have to dive out to evade the lower you get, the more red planes can become a factor.
If I don't find someone to fight with up there, I start working my way down through the furball from the top at an edge. Generally speaking, I prioritize the guy who's trying to BnZ the friendlies below me. If I happen to be following him and you're on a friendly's six and you hang in front of me, sorry I'm not passing up on the shot.
I consider my playstyle somewhere in the neighborhood of 'altmonkey lite' because depending on my mood, I may not have the patience to go above 12k or so by the time I get to the furball. I know guys that won't head toward a fight below about 18k though.
It really is like that food chain picture someone (Fugi?) made for here that I can't find right now. The layer of planes above feeds on the next layer below it, in a beautiful rich tapestry of gameplay. The lower in the fight you are, the more guys have the opportunity to take a shot at you so the more you have to watch your back.
That is the thing I find truly perverse about a lot of people in here. They are at the bottom of a giant swarm of aircraft from both sides, and consider it an infringement on their fun if they can't ignore everything above them so they can have a 1v1.
Wiley.
edit: spelling
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That's the thing, though. A lot of the guys who enjoy that playstyle go into a furball with alt, and the first thing they do is look for other high cons to engage. If they find them, it often precipitates a good high alt duel, which I find is a fairly different fight from a low alt one. Either that, or one of them dives out to friendlies. The difference is, at alt it's a lot easier to get that much-vaunted unmolested 1v1 because the other planes are too low to be a factor. It's kind of like fighting above a pit of snakes though, if you have to dive out to evade the lower you get, the more red planes can become a factor.
If I don't find someone to fight with up there, I start working my way down through the furball from the top at an edge. Generally speaking, I prioritize the guy who's trying to BnZ the friendlies below me. If I happen to be following him and you're on a friendly's six and you hang in front of me, sorry I'm not passing up on the shot.
I consider my playstyle somewhere in the neighborhood of 'altmonkey lite' because depending on my mood, I may not have the patience to go above 12k or so by the time I get to the furball. I know guys that won't head toward a fight below about 18k though.
It really is like that food chain picture someone (Fugi?) made for here that I can't find right now. The layer of planes above feeds on the next layer below it, in a beautiful rich tapestry of gameplay. The lower in the fight you are, the more guys have the opportunity to take a shot at you so the more you have to watch your back.
That is the thing I find truly perverse about a lot of people in here. They are at the bottom of a giant swarm of aircraft from both sides, and cosider it an infringement on their fun if they can't ignore everything above them so they can have a 1v1.
Wiley.
:aok :aok :aok
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I like the ones who are over your base at 10k or so.... they dive on you as you take off. After a bit when they die you start towards their base. They take off coming at you. You have the alt now as you have been flying while they reup. You kill them as they wonder in and out of their ack and they call you an alt monkey. :rofl
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I like the ones who are over your base at 10k or so.... they dive on you as you take off. After a bit when they die you start towards their base. They take off coming at you. You have the alt now as you have been flying while they reup. You kill them as they wonder in and out of their ack and they call you an alt monkey. :rofl
One I wish I'd been there for was one night some squaddies of mine found another squad working a furball coming in 20-25k. My squaddies were in the mood, so they climbed to 30k to get above the other guys and came in. They killed a few of them and were getting a fair bit of flak on 200 for being alt monkeys. IMHO, if you are above the cloud layer, you lose the right to complain that anybody else is an altmonkey.
Wiley.
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I was once told to clear the six of one of the "famous" people in AH, when he was being chased on the deck directly below me and I was at 14k. I told him I wasn't about to waste that much alt just to clear his six, as I had targets my own altitude to worry about. Which led to a bunch of noise from him over voice coms about Rooks not playing as a team, which I quickly squelched.
So I guess what I'm saying is... I feel you, but at the same time, its easy to ignore. :D
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That's the thing, though. A lot of the guys who enjoy that playstyle go into a furball with alt, and the first thing they do is look for other high cons to engage. If they find them, it often precipitates a good high alt duel, which I find is a fairly different fight from a low alt one. Either that, or one of them dives out to friendlies. The difference is, at alt it's a lot easier to get that much-vaunted unmolested 1v1 because the other planes are too low to be a factor. It's kind of like fighting above a pit of snakes though, if you have to dive out to evade the lower you get, the more red planes can become a factor.
If I don't find someone to fight with up there, I start working my way down through the furball from the top at an edge. Generally speaking, I prioritize the guy who's trying to BnZ the friendlies below me. If I happen to be following him and you're on a friendly's six and you hang in front of me, sorry I'm not passing up on the shot.
I consider my playstyle somewhere in the neighborhood of 'altmonkey lite' because depending on my mood, I may not have the patience to go above 12k or so by the time I get to the furball. I know guys that won't head toward a fight below about 18k though.
It really is like that food chain picture someone (Fugi?) made for here that I can't find right now. The layer of planes above feeds on the next layer below it, in a beautiful rich tapestry of gameplay. The lower in the fight you are, the more guys have the opportunity to take a shot at you so the more you have to watch your back.
That is the thing I find truly perverse about a lot of people in here. They are at the bottom of a giant swarm of aircraft from both sides, and consider it an infringement on their fun if they can't ignore everything above them so they can have a 1v1.
Wiley.
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Are you saying everyone plays like you, and I'm just misinterpreting where they are in the cycle? I believe your play is courteous and fun for all. I do not, at all, believe it representative of how most are thinking or doing it. :salute
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I love showing up at a furball at 34k feet to fight the guy who flew at 30k to pick the guy who flew in at 20k to pick the guys who are furballing at 5k.
No matter how high you fly, there is always someone willing to fly higher.
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Are you saying everyone plays like you, and I'm just misinterpreting where they are in the cycle? I believe your play is courteous and fun for all. I do not, at all, believe it representative of how most are thinking or doing it. :salute
Not everyone plays like me, for sure. My point is, the only time you can really rely on people to stay out of your fight is when they can't get to you. As you get lower, more people are able to attack you. Spending all your time in a furball below 3k in a free for all arena is more or less begging to be attacked by all who see you.
With what I've described in the previous post, I am somewhat in control of who engages me, at least until I mess up. Being at 2-3k alt below 20 red planes, you have to expect every last one of them to take a poke at you. It's pure insanity to expect a different result.
If you are logged into the LWMA, you can expect if someone has an opportunity to kill you they're going to take it. That's what I like, and what I want from the other side is for both of us to throw everything but the kitchen sink at each other. If I dive into a crowd of 4 red planes, I assume I am now fighting 4 red planes. If I am engaged with 1 red plane and 3 more red icons appear, I begin tracking those other 3 icons as possible threats, as they likely are.
To me, anything less than full effort from the other side is artificial and doesn't belong in side vs side combat. I have my personal code of ethics, I ask if the friendly's got it under control when I happen on a 1v1 or a 2v2, I don't ho habitually, etc etc. I do however, expect the other side to do all those things, and plan my attack accordingly. I expect it, and plan for it, and if I'm unable to execute my plan (which sometimes involves tucking tail and running if there's more than 2 of them) I die. There are things I consider cheap, but it's part of the game and to be expected from the other side.
I just wish the guys that complain all the time about being killed in ways they dislike would realign their expectations with reality. I've been simming online for ~4 years, and it has always been this way from what I've seen. Individuals have (or lack) their own sense of right and wrong, and if you expect the worst out of them, any quarter they give you is a pleasant surprise. It makes for a much less stressful gaming experience, IMO.
icepac- Exactly. There is no limit to the amount of patience some online gamers have.
Wiley.
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Not everyone plays like me, for sure. My point is, the only time you can really rely on people to stay out of your fight is when they can't get to you. As you get lower, more people are able to attack you. Spending all your time in a furball below 3k in a free for all arena is more or less begging to be attacked by all who see you.
With what I've described in the previous post, I am somewhat in control of who engages me, at least until I mess up. Being at 2-3k alt below 20 red planes, you have to expect every last one of them to take a poke at you. It's pure insanity to expect a different result.
If you are logged into the LWMA, you can expect if someone has an opportunity to kill you they're going to take it. That's what I like, and what I want from the other side is for both of us to throw everything but the kitchen sink at each other. If I dive into a crowd of 4 red planes, I assume I am now fighting 4 red planes. If I am engaged with 1 red plane and 3 more red icons appear, I begin tracking those other 3 icons as possible threats, as they likely are.
To me, anything less than full effort from the other side is artificial and doesn't belong in side vs side combat. I have my personal code of ethics, I ask if the friendly's got it under control when I happen on a 1v1 or a 2v2, I don't ho habitually, etc etc. I do however, expect the other side to do all those things, and plan my attack accordingly. I expect it, and plan for it, and if I'm unable to execute my plan (which sometimes involves tucking tail and running if there's more than 2 of them) I die. There are things I consider cheap, but it's part of the game and to be expected from the other side.
I just wish the guys that complain all the time about being killed in ways they dislike would realign their expectations with reality. I've been simming online for ~4 years, and it has always been this way from what I've seen. Individuals have (or lack) their own sense of right and wrong, and if you expect the worst out of them, any quarter they give you is a pleasant surprise. It makes for a much less stressful gaming experience, IMO.
icepac- Exactly. There is no limit to the amount of patience some online gamers have.
Wiley.
I'm not dissagreeing. :salute My point was not to defend every complaint. It was to refute that no complaint is valid. Understanding game dynamics means the most fun may be had by not seeking ways to win without completely frustrate your opponent. :aok
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I don't really understand why folks feel the need to go off on others, either on 200 or in private. It was always my fault when I died, either because I allowed my SA to break down, or I stayed in too long and was overwhelmed, or I just wasn't good enough to beat that guy 1v1. Learn from it, appreciate the opportunity, and move on. It's a lot less stressful than blaming others for not flying exactly the way I think they should.
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Since I'm not really dying, I figure I'll die with as little dignity as possible, and hopefully laughing, as I plow into the dirt :)
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I'm not dissagreeing. :salute My point was not to defend every complaint. It was to refute that no complaint is valid. Understanding game dynamics means the most fun may be had by not seeking ways to win without completely frustrate your opponent. :aok
Some peoples' threshold for frustration is just ridiculously low though. Completely unrealistic for the situation.
Wiley.
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Since I'm not really dying, I figure I'll die with as little dignity as possible, and hopefully laughing, as I plow into the dirt :)
Umm, it's not really dirt! :neener:
The laughing is real though :D :aok
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JUGgler
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I like the ones who are over your base at 10k or so.... they dive on you as you take off. After a bit when they die you start towards their base. They take off coming at you. You have the alt now as you have been flying while they reup. You kill them as they wonder in and out of their ack and they call you an alt monkey. :rofl
Ah yes, the joys of AH. one better is those same folks diving on you as you take off calling you an ack hugger, haha <-- that one gets me everytime!
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I guess technically speaking, I'm hugging ack till my wheels are up :huh it gets very confusing!!
JUGgler
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Some peoples' threshold for frustration is just ridiculously low though. Completely unrealistic for the situation.
Wiley.
I wouldn't dissagree with that either. :salute
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Ah yes, the joys of AH. one better is those same folks diving on you as you take off calling you an ack hugger, haha <-- that one gets me everytime!
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I guess technically speaking, I'm hugging ack till my wheels are up :huh it gets very confusing!!
I know how you feel. I tried hugging ack once to see what the fuss was about by my arms kept getting blown off.
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Dirt is not my problem... it's those darn trees. If tanks ever get the ability to knock down trees I want the same for planes. :D
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I don't really understand why folks feel the need to go off on others, either on 200 or in private. It was always my fault when I died, either because I allowed my SA to break down, or I stayed in too long and was overwhelmed, or I just wasn't good enough to beat that guy 1v1. Learn from it, appreciate the opportunity, and move on. It's a lot less stressful than blaming others for not flying exactly the way I think they should.
+1 :aok