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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Spoons - SimHQ on April 10, 2000, 07:04:00 AM
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Hey all, fairly new to AH (maybe 3 weeks) and have been lurking here reading posts when I'm not flying.
Anyway, part of my review will deal with the AH "community," since IMHO that's a big part of the online flying experience.
If anyone's interested, I'd like to have some feedback about what you think of the crowd that plays AH. Friendly? Good teamwork? Willing to help? Or not? I have my own opinions, but I wanted to include a snippet in the review about what kind of feedback I got from this question.
Related question, I guess....why are you here and not at some other game?
I hope this post is kosher for this board, but I think it is. If you'd like to email me privately instead, that's great...my address is below. I'm not planning on writing "Joe told me...." but instead more of a "Most said...," etc.
Thanks! Looking forward to writing my review and having it (gulp) dissected. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
See you up there!
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John Sponauer
Senior Editor, SimHQ.com
jsponauer@simhq.com
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Great community is what I will start with, but since I am in the office I will have to edit this later today (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Saw/Saintaw
=XO=III/JG2~Richthofen~
GMT T.O.D. SITE (http://www.wardogs.org/ah/)
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JG2 "Richthofen" (http://www.busprod.com/weazel2/)
Don't shoot ! I am only an observer......
[This message has been edited by Saintaw (edited 04-10-2000).]
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Yes, great community, but impresive flight model also. And great support from the developpers. This game, being in its initial stages, is showing us a tremendous grow potential. And this potential is being exploded wisefully by its creators. Someone may say it is still in a beta stage, well, perhaps this is true, but even in beta this sim matches and checkmates older and more mature sims like AW or WarBirds.
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I'm a veteran of flying online flight sims for some 10 years. I thought that after AirWarrior Dos, I would never see the tight community we had back then.
The AH community is the closest to that AWDOS community that I have experienced. Squad life here in AH is alive and well, however, those not belonging to a squad are involved and are just as important. That is not the case in other sim communities.
Considering the young life of Aces High, this sim unlike others, holds great potential for friendships to be made and rivalries to be grown.
Im enjoying myself for the first time in a long time (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Rude Out!
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I'd like to have some feedback about what you think of the crowd that plays AH. Friendly? Good teamwork? Willing to help? Or not?
The free trial means there are some bad apples at times. People who don't care how they act because they are leaving anyways. Kids who snagged mommy's credit card number.
But for the most part people here are great. VERY helpful when you have a problem. Teamwork comes and goes, but in Rookland for example, I'm starting to see larger and larger ad-hoc task forces going to work.
Related question, I guess....why are you here and not at some other game?
I'm a WW2 airplane nut. Jet sims make me sleepy - more switchology than flying. There are some cheaper alternatives to this game but the flight modeling etc. is not up to snuff. There is one alternative that is on par technically, but outrageously priced.
Also the rate of progress and use of customer feedback here is outstanding. They don't run it like a focus group, but if somebody points out a mistake or presents an idea, they give it proper consideration and make changes if they are merited.
Finally, you get to shoot down most of the staff here. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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I have personally never been as excited about firing up the computer as I am now since my first flight sim on an 086 computer. Multi-level combat with strat that boggles the mind. At one point on Sat. night I saw tanks and 1/2 tracks battling it out with Typoons, at 10k above them there were spits and 190's battling it out, at 20K above this carnage there were intercept flights jumping incoming low-level B26's, and of course, the B17's above them all OTW to enemy targets. Confusion, Mayhem, 6 calls shouted out frantically on Roger Wilco, unbelievable. Now if I can just get a relief map, I'll be happy!
The folks that are involved in a squad will receive the most satisfaction out of current AH. Days are gone of "lone wolfs"..there's just too many targets to tempt them, and without a wingy to watch your six, you can be dead real fast. Score monkeys will find it difficult to run up 8-10 kills on an airfield anymore, unless they are vehicle busting. This is WAR! This type of combat will leave one's hands shaking after a successful mission, it will leave your throat parched to the point that a glass of water is mnadantory before each session. You'll hear a strange high pitched voice on Roger Wilco and then realize that it's your own! Now THAT'S entertainment!
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Ripsnort(-rip1-)
=CO=II/JG2~Richthofen~
JG2 Communications Officer
Aces High Training Corps
JG2 "Richthofen" (http://www.busprod.com/weazel2/)
(http://Ripsnort60.tripod.com/ripsnort.jpg)
Turning Spitfires into Bud Lite cans since 1992
[This message has been edited by Ripsnort (edited 04-10-2000).]
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Spoons I think the comunity is the best around. You can get flamed here but usaully the topics migrate off the subject of the flames. Everyone is willing to help, have not seen anyone give bad advice to any new players. The level of experience is the highest for a sim I have seen yet. Thats in 3 years of actively playing online (steady for long period). Aces High develops faster then any other sim out.
This Community is the best to be part of.
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Tommy (INDIAN) Toon
1st Aces High Trainer Corps.
Home of The Allied Fighter Wing A.F.W.
A.F.W. Homepage (http://www.geocities.com/~tltoon)
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YEP! This community is very helpful and one can't help but get caught up in the excitement that the community has for the game, as you can see from the many positive posts.
Whenever I've asked a question on the GENERAL comm channel, I've gotten many helpful replies from friend and foe alike.
I only wish I could get these people to quit shooting me down, as it really has an adverse effect on my score (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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<===THE ASSASSINS===>Webpage (http://members.xoom.com/rowgue/assassins.html)
milnko@warbirds.org
•CyberPilots have BIGGER Joysticks•
««You can kill me, Can't ya?»» (http://members.xoom.com/rowgue/killsomeone.ra)
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Well I'm like a lot of the others posted above. Been flying for a while now (4 years)
Over all I think AH has the highest individual pilot skill level of any sim I've even heard of much less flown.
The community is exactly as it should be.
Meaning, treat them with respect & courtesy & you are welcomed with open arms.
Our squad moved here from Brand W less than a month ago. Welcomed is not the word. Feted perhaps comes closer. JG2 in Particular has done a excellent job of inviteing us for combined attacks & generally makeing us feel welcome.
The Community saw some major action this weekend with the release of 1.02. The arena was flooded with people new to AH. Open channel seemed to constantly have someone on it asking how to do this or that. I really have to complement EVERYONE who took the time to help out. WTG Guys!
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Maj Ghosth
XO 332nd Flying Mongrels
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I have to tip my hat back to the 332nd, yesterday, in a combined ops, with about 35-40 flyers from both JG2 and 332nd, we had an outstanding cooperative mission in taking A34. From two different directions we approached the airfield, and our timing had it as such that bombay doors from the 332nd and JG 2 opened within 30 seconds of each other. I love it when a plan comes together like that! <S> 332nd!
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Ripsnort(-rip1-)
=CO=II/JG2~Richthofen~
JG2 Communications Officer
Aces High Training Corps
JG2 "Richthofen" (http://www.busprod.com/weazel2/)
(http://Ripsnort60.tripod.com/ripsnort.jpg)
Turning Spitfires into Bud Lite cans since 1992
[This message has been edited by Ripsnort (edited 04-10-2000).]
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"Y R U here?"
Guns, big guns, a lot of big guns.
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I cant add much more to these replies except, I'm proud to be apart of this community!
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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I have to add one more thing to the community list that hasnt been mentioned yet.
Hitech, Pyro, Superfly, Natedog are all very much a part of this community. We have AH staff flying with us on a daily basis, including weekends.
WD out..........
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ditto Wardog!!!
i think having the actual developers of a game involved first hand with the other players says a TON for HTC! They are immediate, intelligent in responsive, and more than willing to help and solve issues to make the sim the best it can be. Just ask..if they can...they will.
and the community.....bunch of great people! lots of witt and humor to go around!
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Any and all reviews of Aces High should include the following:
"and when Dago shows up, all know fear, as Dago is the ultimate warrior"
hehehehehehhe
Dago
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Originally posted by Dago:
Any and all reviews of Aces High should include the following:
"and when Dago shows up, all know fear, as Dago is the ultimate warrior"
hehehehehehhe
Dago
"And then Dago wakes up, finding out it was just a dream, even if it was nice.
OUCH! He screamed when his father found out that Dago been using one of his credit cards and found another way for to use the beltbuckle.unwillingly Dago slips into his dream again"
[This message has been edited by crabofix (edited 04-10-2000).]
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Hang's sittin in the O Club lounge; munching beernuts, listening to the guy at the piano and tossin the reject peanuts at the back of the BPO's head. *plink*
In comes this guy with a pile of notepaper, a disheveled briefcase and old Rand typewriter. In his hat (as if it was necessary) is a tattered card that sez PRESS. This guy eyeballs the room and slides on over to Hangs table... the only available chairs in the room.
"Hi!" Sez the reporter... and he takes a seat. Hang looks up, gives the guy the once-over and goes back to sortin the beernuts fer aerodynamics. "Wuz wonderin if you'd mind answering a few questions for the folks back home??..."
Hang smiles, and since he's obviously got nothin better to do; nods slowly to the civilian and sez "Price of admission.. one Bud. In the bottle. and more ammo."
"Ammo??" Hang points at the beernuts. “Yah.” He picks one up and tosses it at the BPO's pate, misses; grunts "ballistics, my ass" and sighs. "Yah; ammo. Bring some round ones." (*plink*)
When he returns, the reporter passes a fresh bowl of nuts, the beer and a typed list of questions. Hang spills the nuts on the table; and begins to sort by feel while eyballing the questions.
“Humph. Nothin interesting here… Yah the community here in AH is damn friendly fer a buncha folks that spend their spare time killin each other. Kinda reminds me of when that brand W sim fired up. I spent years there mailin the equivalent of a house payment per month to the developer. When the original guys sold it; it went ta hell in a hand basket pretty quick.. connections sucked. Whiners everywhere. It turned into an amazinhunk contest after awile. New stuff was kinda porked… nothin to write home about after the first coupla years. I moved on to other prop sims. Kali and Janes and such. Not the same tho… no, just not the same as the old brand W.”
“So; what makes Aces High better than AW; WB’s or the or the other multiplay WWII sims??”
Hang muses; sorts. Swigs his beer; selects his target; tosses. (*plink*) “Well; fer one thing, the guys I really enjoyed flyin with and against wound up over here. Best on this planet fly here in AH. And sure; the play quality and technical crapola like flight models; AC fidelity; artwork; gunnery and ballistics (*plink*) and arena strategy is better in AH, but that ain’t it. At least that ain’t all of it.”
“….yes??”
“Well; its kinda embarrassing actually. Not sure if this is appropriate fer yer article. I mean; what’ll the kids think??” The reporter, used to digging a bit fer the substance closes angles and fires again. “In what regards???”
Hang points at the now empty beer bottle and smiles.
“…beer??” Sez the reporter, somewhat incredulously. “No”, sez Hang… “refill. It’s EMPTY”.
The reporter.. sure he’s onto some hot stuff; scrambles for a refill, and returns to the scene of the action as hang deftly fires a barrage of sorted ammo at various targets about the room. (*plink plink plink plink*) Dead on; he tags 10 for ten and sits back with the fresh beer and smiles benignly at the reporter. “Sheep” he says.
“WHAT??” The reporter is caught flat footed. Hang never misses a beat. “Well; yah. Sheep. Wooly little critters with big eyes and permanent sweaters. The place is infested with ‘em. There’s one now; waitin on the knit tables there in the rear.” Sure enuff; one with a flat head meanders by, totin green bottles to the LW boys back in the back. “Yer kiddin!!?? .. aintcha??” The press is speechless.
Hang; sucks down some more brew; eyeballs the pundit. “Yah. I’m kiddin. Had yah there fer a sec, tho didn’t I??” A slow smile appears. “Ok; the real skinny. What makes this a better show is the better class of people involved. ‘Better class’ meaning folks that give a damn about the product developing it; and lots of folks flying it that KNOW the intent and honor it while contributing input to the project while it’s being developed. It’s loyalty; and concern for the initial concept of creating something NEW and DIFFERENT and EXCITING; and being there watching and enjoying the developments as it happens. Every new revision seems to raise the level of excitement, every error or omission is ruthlessly analyzed by the community; and fella, lemme tell yah… when the developers are right there in the plane next to you, you KNOW they understand when yah bark ‘this is bogus!’. Show me another prop Sim like this; built like this; revised like this; flown by THIS high quality crowd.. (hang looks at the knits in the back) …well, scratch that last… but you get my point.”
At this point; the BPO rises from his seat at the bar; turns to leave and in passing; dumps a bowl of beernuts on hangs head. “See?? …and where else would a developer put up with my crap; but here. Enh?? Interview over. I gotta ewe ta see about an itch. Or is that an itch ta see that ewe… oh well. I ferget. Thanks fer the beers.”
Hang; out!
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That's priceless.... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Very funny...and don't worry, the sheep will be featured. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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John Sponauer
Senior Editor, SimHQ.com
jsponauer@simhq.com
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Cant belive the guys still whining about the realistic peanuts.
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Methinks the beernuts are WAY overmodeled. The sheep are friendly, the flying is good and the comraderie, even among "enemies," is great. What more could you ask for?
MiG
Right... more beer <G>
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What do we have that other sims don't? Answer: We have Hangtime! (BTW: I'm a Knight, not nit, Knight! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) ) As for the sheep, they are even better than before. The have been reprogrammed to migrate around the base in perfect box formation. (Honestly, I'm not lying.) Can you show me another flight sim where the sheep are so well modeled? Didn't think so!
In all honesty, it's the community and the sense of momentum that this sim currently enjoys. Every couple weeks we get new features, keeping the game from getting stale due to having no significant changes for over a year. The developers also seem intensely committed to seeing this game succeed. Take a look at when 1.02 was released. HTC worked late to not only release 1.02, but they even stuck around for a while to answer questions. If that wasn't good enough, they released a patch on a Saturday to fix a couple minor bugs with the new version. That's dedication!
bloom25
THUNDERBIRDS
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The truely amazing thing is when I log on I just don't get in a plane and fly. I check to see who else is on. Not just my squadmates (JG2) but the entire Knight clan. Flying with the 332nd or the Buccaneers is a huge rush. The manner in which others greet you as they get a VIS on your plane! Makes ya feel kinda warm and fuzzy inside!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Then I check the enamas. There are many bad assed pilots with a large amount of on-line sim experience behind them. Everytime ya run into them they are finding new way to kill ya. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
But it goes both ways!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I view, smile, and think to myself, "Oh! A bunch of them Flying Hams on tonite." Off to War they say? Hey, no kidding! Them bastiages be tough!!
Or the 357th Ponytail Express! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) Where there is one there are sure to be more. I usually find out to late!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) Many, Many other squadrons and sim pilots that take your breath away by the way they just dispatched you. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
HTC is very dynamic! They never seem content. Always pushing for better but at the same time listening to the people who matter the most, the players. The care that goes into forming the detailed functions of the Simulation is incredible!
I popped into this sim back in October of 99 and I have never been disappointed. This is my first on-line sim so I don't know much. I only know the sensation I feel when logging on. I feel "part" of a special community. People from all over the world sharing in something that has been an intrest of mine ever since I was a kid, World War II Aircraft!
This feeling has alot to do with the squad I am a member of. But then that is another topic. You're gona have a good story here Spoons!! Good Luck!!
A hearty salute to the entire AH community!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Swager
-XO- II/JG2~Richthofen~
"Damn.....I can't believe I missed that shot!!!"
(http://saintaw.tripod.com/swager.gif)
JG2 "Richthofen" (http://www.busprod.com/weazel2/)
[This message has been edited by Swager (edited 04-10-2000).]
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I hate beernuts.
[This message has been edited by Hairball (edited 04-11-2000).]
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Jeeze Bloom.. yer a Knight??? (look of shocked disbelief)
Damnme.. don't tell the knits, they may not be so understanding about the iron undies.
Do you get a free Malcom Hood with that getup?
Hang (runnin)
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Well, I can't say it any better than has already been stated.
1. Flight Models
2. Customer Service/Developer Interaction
3. Connection
4. Price
5. Gameplay
6. Community
All of the above I believe should be #1 reasons for my involvement with Aces, but if I had to order them, that's how they would be listed. No other online flight sim on the market can boast 6 good #1 reasons for paying them your hard earned money. HTC is the most friendly, hard working bunch of programmers in today's online sim market as far as I'm concerned.
ts
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Spoons,
if I'm not wrong, yesterday evening (GMT+1 here) our 1°Gruppo and 4°Stormo Caccia C.205s clashed with you and other guys North of A31.
I shot you down after a nice low-alt fight and you cried a "good fight 205's!" on channel 1. I replied with the usual: "<S> Spit driver!".
Anyway, I really cant remember how many times I radioed <S> to my foes .... I like this community and this sim: yeah, the first sim to model the mighty MACCHI C.202 "Folgore" and C.205 "Veltro", ever.
In other words: in AH you really feel the simmer's enthusiasm. And the feed-back form HTC is excellent.
GATT
4°Stormo CT
"F.Baracca"
(http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/8780/reference/italy/4st9grp.gif)
[This message has been edited by gatt (edited 04-11-2000).]
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>if I'm not wrong, yesterday evening (GMT+1 here) our 1 Gruppo and 4 Stormo Caccia C.205s clashed with you and other guys North of A31. I shot you down after a nice low-alt fight and you cried a "good fight 205's!" on channel 1. I replied with the usual: "<S> Spit driver!".
hehehehehe...nope, wasn't me. I fly the G10. But you probably HAVE shot me down at some point. LOL
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John Sponauer
Senior Editor, SimHQ.com
jsponauer@simhq.com