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Title: How does your Country getting pwnd affect your mood and legnth of play?
Post by: Chilli on November 04, 2011, 03:32:11 PM: Before the bandwagon starts delivering these :ahand for no reason, read the question and be honest about your mood when it seems that every sortie you fly in something positive occurs. That oppossed to having a day when it seems that getting your gear up, before your canopy is riddled with bullets, is an accomplishment.

Yes, honestly the question came to mind when I saw the current giagantic map play itself out for a week. It has become so predictable and old hat at P113 and C114, that I did something today that I generally am critical of in others. I went to a fight with no intentions of doing anything other than getting kills and helping other friendlies (but only the ones that didn't drop to the deck and roll in the dirt with the 4 to 1 odds we were fighting against), ignoring any and all calls for country help. After about 20 minutes of this I got so bored, I logged off to do actual real world stuff. Could it be my AHaddiction is on a decline? I don't think so, because now I am even more involved.... got my new terrain editor out... planning my custom arena..... and working on another AH film. HTC owns my soul :devil but I fear that the MAs are losing their attraction with nothing presenting anywhere near the numbers to make up for it in other arenas.

Flame on!! :noid
Title: Re: How does your Country getting pwnd affect your mood and legnth of play?
Post by: FireDrgn on November 04, 2011, 03:41:08 PM: I use to be a loyalist to a country made some great friends. I save you the ti raid of how I over came my loyalist mentality. I missed out on friends from other counties and great fights against "country" men. If your working towards a strategic goal i can see how your country can get pwd. If you switch sides just for the fight all the chess pieces look the same.
Title: Re: How does your Country getting pwnd affect your mood and legnth of play?
Post by: Zoney on November 04, 2011, 03:51:54 PM: I never fight "the whole country" or defend "the whole country" so I do not pay much attention to the what the country is doing or how the war is going. I just engage one plane at a time.

To answer your question then, it does not affect me at all.

If everytime I take off I am immediately am riddled with bullets then I have made a gross miscalculation and taken off from a capped base.
Title: Re: How does your Country getting pwnd affect your mood and legnth of play?
Post by: Wiley on November 04, 2011, 03:55:12 PM: I would say 'how my country is doing' has a fairly negligible impact on my mood. The ground war has little to no meaning to me 95% of the time. If the situation is wrong, I can find myself in a bad mood when my country is horded up and rolling bases with gusto (We're winning teh warz! That means we're doing well, right?) because it quite often makes it tougher for me to find the fight I'm looking for.

The difference is, I'm not a mudmover. The OP appears to be. My view of it is, most of the time there are more than enough people wanting to go on the offensive, I look around for places to put up a fight against the enemy. If it turns into a fight, I'm happy. If I spend a while chasing down singletons because there are no red bardars to speak of, I don't have fun and I log.

Wiley.
Title: Re: How does your Country getting pwnd affect your mood and legnth of play?
Post by: Soulyss on November 04, 2011, 03:56:52 PM: The gnashing of teeth and general whining that is often exhibited on channel 2 bothers me more than anything that is actually happening on the map or in the air.

Back when we had the 1 hour country switch it wasn't uncommon that I would switch to the losing country just so I wouldn't have to fight other countrymen for the few scrapes on the table, so who "wins" the map is of little consequence to me, when I'm playing the concern is the other planes in the sector with me, or the base I'm flying from or flying two. Rarely do I look much beyond that.
Title: Re: How does your Country getting pwnd affect your mood and legnth of play?
Post by: Ruah on November 04, 2011, 04:52:51 PM: never understood why people care.
Title: Re: How does your Country getting pwnd affect your mood and legnth of play?
Post by: Stang on November 04, 2011, 05:07:30 PM: Quote from: Chilli on November 04, 2011, 03:32:11 PM
[/u] It has become so predictable and old hat at P113 and C114, that I did something today that I generally am critical of in others. I went to a fight with no intentions of doing anything other than getting kills and helping other friendlies (but only the ones that didn't drop to the deck and roll in the dirt with the 4 to 1 odds we were fighting against), ignoring any and all calls for country help.

Okay, Ill bite...

I was logged on at the time, and the numbers in the arena were 59 Bish, 51 Knights, and 59 Rooks. Hardly hording numbers. There was a big fight at 113-114. There was also one big fight on the opposite front...

But we're to believe you weren't helping your country by fighting the enemy where he was fighting yours?

:confused:
Title: Re: How does your Country getting pwnd affect your mood and legnth of play?
Post by: W7LPNRICK on November 04, 2011, 05:10:48 PM: Only if you care too much.... :noid
Title: Re: How does your Country getting pwnd affect your mood and legnth of play?
Post by: waystin2 on November 04, 2011, 05:40:24 PM: I fly Knights and I enjoy the hordes attacking the Knights and get bored quickly when the Knights are attacking in too large a group.
Title: Re: How does your Country getting pwnd affect your mood and legnth of play?
Post by: Melvin on November 04, 2011, 05:43:38 PM: Nevermind.

:salute
Title: Re: How does your Country getting pwnd affect your mood and legnth of play?
Post by: skorpion on November 04, 2011, 05:43:57 PM: just hearing this crap is declining my interest in AH.

im starting to drift off to WoT.
Title: Re: How does your Country getting pwnd affect your mood and legnth of play?
Post by: IrishOne on November 04, 2011, 05:46:12 PM: Quote from: Soulyss on November 04, 2011, 03:56:52 PM
The gnashing of teeth and general whining that is often exhibited on channel 2 bothers me more than anything that is actually happening on the map or in the air.

Back when we had the 1 hour country switch it wasn't uncommon that I would switch to the losing country just so I wouldn't have to fight other countrymen for the few scrapes on the table, so who "wins" the map is of little consequence to me, when I'm playing the concern is the other planes in the sector with me, or the base I'm flying from or flying two. Rarely do I look much beyond that.

QFT
Title: Re: How does your Country getting pwnd affect your mood and legnth of play?
Post by: Trukk on November 04, 2011, 06:03:23 PM: Doesn't affect me as the map just resets and you start over. As far as teams, they're just chess pieces, if they were country based I might get more into it. Personally, I'm more interested in surviving the mission than the 'war'.

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Title: Re: How does your Country getting pwnd affect your mood and legnth of play?
Post by: shiv on November 04, 2011, 06:12:18 PM: Quote from: Chilli on November 04, 2011, 03:32:11 PM
Before the bandwagon starts delivering these :ahand for no reason, read the question and be honest about your mood when it seems that every sortie you fly in something positive occurs. That oppossed to having a day when it seems that getting your gear up, before your canopy is riddled with bullets, is an accomplishment.

Yes, honestly the question came to mind when I saw the current giagantic map play itself out for a week. It has become so predictable and old hat at P113 and C114, that I did something today that I generally am critical of in others. I went to a fight with no intentions of doing anything other than getting kills and helping other friendlies (but only the ones that didn't drop to the deck and roll in the dirt with the 4 to 1 odds we were fighting against), ignoring any and all calls for country help. After about 20 minutes of this I got so bored, I logged off to do actual real world stuff. Could it be my AHaddiction is on a decline? I don't think so, because now I am even more involved.... got my new terrain editor out... planning my custom arena..... and working on another AH film. HTC owns my soul :devil but I fear that the MAs are losing their attraction with nothing presenting anywhere near the numbers to make up for it in other arenas.

Flame on!! :noid

I'm proud of you. Defending is noble way of helping your country. A thankless job with none of the glamour of base capture, but it has to be done.
Title: Re: How does your Country getting pwnd affect your mood and legnth of play?
Post by: guncrasher on November 04, 2011, 06:29:39 PM: It depends on two things, how much beer I drank and how much beer I got left.

Semp
Title: Re: How does your Country getting pwnd affect your mood and legnth of play?
Post by: potsNpans on November 04, 2011, 06:47:15 PM: Country schmuntry, so long as you love a good fight. Though I could do with out the 3 + on 1 encounters. As an a American we always root for the underdog.
Title: Re: How does your Country getting pwnd affect your mood and legnth of play?
Post by: chaser on November 04, 2011, 06:48:17 PM: Personally I like playing for the country thats getting pwnd. They usually have low number and a really high perk bonus! Lots of easy perks to be made :airplane:
Title: Re: How does your Country getting pwnd affect your mood and legnth of play?
Post by: Guppy35 on November 04, 2011, 08:55:08 PM: Quote from: Soulyss on November 04, 2011, 03:56:52 PM
The gnashing of teeth and general whining that is often exhibited on channel 2 bothers me more than anything that is actually happening on the map or in the air.

Back when we had the 1 hour country switch it wasn't uncommon that I would switch to the losing country just so I wouldn't have to fight other countrymen for the few scrapes on the table, so who "wins" the map is of little consequence to me, when I'm playing the concern is the other planes in the sector with me, or the base I'm flying from or flying two. Rarely do I look much beyond that.

What Soulyss said.

The only discouraging thing in the end, is when you log on and see a large mob in each country and none of them fighting each other.
Title: Re: How does your Country getting pwnd affect your mood and legnth of play?
Post by: titanic3 on November 04, 2011, 09:08:37 PM: If the same map has been going on for over 3 days, I do whatever I feel like it, because frankly, I just want a new map. If we're losing, I just go and find my own fight. If we're on the verge of winning with one or two bases left, then hold on to your hats, cause here comes the horde.

Otherwise, I just fly with squadmates or some friends. Maybe organize a fun mission like a strat raid or a 40 ENY fighter sweep.
Title: Re: How does your Country getting pwnd affect your mood and legnth of play?
Post by: Dragon on November 04, 2011, 09:47:10 PM: I always find something to do. I'll normally up a set of buffs and start dropping dars just to antagonize the "steam rolling" chess piece team and possibly start some good fights.

We are not chess piece loyal, so switching is no problem and often done.
Title: Re: How does your Country getting pwnd affect your mood and legnth of play?
Post by: oboe on November 04, 2011, 10:07:33 PM: "Effect? I'll tell you what the effect is! It's pissing me off!!"
Title: Re: How does your Country getting pwnd affect your mood and legnth of play?
Post by: 1701E on November 04, 2011, 10:29:48 PM: Long as I find a good fight I wouldn't care if our country got wiped down to 1 base in mere seconds. Mind you, finding someone who will fight a rusty P-40C in LW is hard, most just want to get that "easy kill" quickly and run home to land it. Thought I had found some, turns out it only seemed that way cause I could keep them from pointing their nose at mine for a decent amount of time. :P
I tend to avoid country chat and subsequently avoid helping county. I don't find any enjoyment in taking bases anymore, the way it's done just bores me. Although if I have to hear about "We're losing" or "We can't take this base" whining crud over vox, it certainly makes me log faster. I personally don't want to hear you old men whining like 5 year olds. It's a game, it's a map, it's a set of plane, just play! :D
Title: Re: How does your Country getting pwnd affect your mood and legnth of play?
Post by: Tank-Ace on November 04, 2011, 10:44:18 PM: I used to be a bishop exclusively. I HATED seeing enemy hordes, I HATED the feeling of watching my countrymen get pushed back and being unable to stop it dispite my hardest efforts. Just made me feel sad, and out of sorts. I hated the enemy players the way I would hate anyone that defeated my country in an actual war (I know, silly isn't it? But this is more than just a game or a hobby for me. My friends here matter to me as much as the ones outside of the game. We share not only personal likes and oppinions, but a love of flying and always trying to better oneself). That was 5 1/2 hears ago though.

Now, while I still feel much of the same emotions, I feel them less acutely. Yeah, loosing sucks, yeah, it sucks being helpless dispite giving it your all. But then I think "Hey, those morons are only averaging about .07 kills per person, and most of them won't even be on for the map-win perks. They're just shooting themselves in the foot with this one :lol", and then I go back to my slaughtering of V-tards or Alchies.

When that grows tiersome, I just head over to the DA, or WWI if theres someone in there. I've NEVER been unable to find a good fight in those two arenas.
Title: Re: How does your Country getting pwnd affect your mood and legnth of play?
Post by: thndregg on November 04, 2011, 11:08:31 PM: When I am discouraged, I usually have something else to do.
Title: Re: How does your Country getting pwnd affect your mood and legnth of play?
Post by: Cooley on November 05, 2011, 02:27:46 AM: Your flying for the wrong country if you like to capture or defend bases

Other then a couple squads, Nits are pretty much just kill counters who care less about the war

Not offering an opinion on that, just is what it is

Im all for doing what ever you like for your 15 bucks

But as far as the Countries go...

Rooks are the Patriots, Bish are the Packers, Nits are the Dolphins

:cool:
Title: Re: How does your Country getting pwnd affect your mood and legnth of play?
Post by: Chilli on November 05, 2011, 03:07:56 AM: Quite a wide variety of opinions, and what I expect to be true for me isn't what I expect to be true for anyone else. The part that I can't shake is caring about an effort by teamates, that carries momentum only to find out that you didn't have teamates at all, you just had an angry mob with pitchforks and you were carrying the torch :bhead

:salute Everyone hope to see you in the skies to shoot at and feel free to shoot me down and hopefully we both can have a good laugh about the whole thing.
Title: Re: How does your Country getting pwnd affect your mood and legnth of play?
Post by: uptown on November 05, 2011, 03:21:37 AM: I haven't seen a map won in a few years at least. So why in the hell would I worry about it?! I just try and bomb what needs bombin' and shoot down what needs shot down. I let the rank dweebs lose sleep over that winz teh war crap. I got enough going on around the house here to worry about a INTERNET war.
I used to care and did nothing but see how many bases I could take for hours on end. But then I came to realise that I was always pissed off...and for what? The next map you just start all over again :bhead The same thing goes for the rank thing. When a "game" becomes a job or chore, it becomes unfun.

My only goal now is to learn to fly better.

I see you're from the Chesapeake area Chilli. I went to Tangier Island just this last summer to visit family. I miss that area. :salute
Title: Re: How does your Country getting pwnd affect your mood and legnth of play?
Post by: FBCrabby on November 05, 2011, 03:58:32 AM: Its called moral - yes its a part of gameplay...
Title: Re: How does your Country getting pwnd affect your mood and legnth of play?
Post by: zack1234 on November 05, 2011, 04:15:02 AM: It a depends what I have had for tea :old:

A light meal usually means I will be aggressive and ask for more :old:

A full hearty meal I will keep to a less active part if possible :old:

we need more big missions in my opinion .

Due to lack of strong personalities at present in game there have been very few big shows :old:
Title: Re: How does your Country getting pwnd affect your mood and legnth of play?
Post by: Greebo on November 05, 2011, 05:36:24 AM: I'm really just looking for the right type of fight when I log in. Something which isn't too unbalanced locally one way or the other. The biggest darbar on a map tends to attract the bnz pickers so its usually better to look for a smaller fight. Fights near CVs are the best generally. I actually prefer it if we are under attack as there is less distance to get to the fight. If there is nothing happening in the MA at the time I'll just log off and do some skinning.

Some maps are harder to find a fight in than others. I'm particularly discouraged when I see one of the CV-less maps up for instance. Trinity is only interesting once it gets away from the starting positions.
Title: Re: How does your Country getting pwnd affect your mood and legnth of play?
Post by: SmokinLoon on November 05, 2011, 07:38:57 AM: I ultimately do not care if my country (Rook) is getting rolled or not. I will do what I can where I can to help my squad and country, but I always look at it 3 ways:

First: if we are getting pushed back due to the double teaming and we're 3-4-5 bases behind the front, I look at the new terrain to have gv battles on or to have dog-fights over. Honestly, who likes to do have gv battles in the exact same terrain time and time again? I certainly don't. Most maps fluctuate in tree and hedge density over the entire map and losing (or gaining) X number of bases is the key to having the new terrain to battle over.

Second: In a 3 country system, the pendulum is going to swing to and fro, it always does. That is the nature of the beast and it is something that no matter how hard people try and complain about they forget that they just need to play the game and let things go because it is out of their control. This isn't the Ost Front where things are X vs Y and clear cut black and white. Know what you can change and what you can not, and things are much easier in AH (and in life, too).

Third: This is a game for enjoyment, I cant seem to get too wrapped up in something that I simply can't put on my resume' and for the life of me wonder how some of the players in AH function in day to day like if they carry themselves in the real world as they do in AH. I play the game, have some fun, take full advantage of the multitude of things that are available to do, and just do it. I try and remind many of my squad mates and countrymen of the same thing.

Carry on.

:salute

BudGray, CO
Eagle Squadron
Duxford Wing RAF
Title: Re: How does your Country getting pwnd affect your mood and legnth of play?
Post by: The Fugitive on November 05, 2011, 07:54:27 AM: Well Chilli, your looking at it the wrong way.

Unless it's your squad that is the entire population for your country, what happens for your country is un-important. You can not control the whole team as we have no "supreme commander" to lead the country. What you can do is get your team together and try to control your small area of the map.

In the old days squads would do that, pick a section of the map and spend the night fighting for a base or two. A squad or two would defend and the fight would be on. Along the fronts you could find 3, 4, sometimes more of these fights. Some captured base, some lost bases. Either way the fights were grest and everyone had fun.

Today far too many find that they need to hide in the horde either for protection, or because the "capture" is more important than the "fight" for the capture. So you end up with most of the resources in one area rolling base after base, but nobody defending so they lose almost as many as they grab.
Title: Re: How does your Country getting pwnd affect your mood and legnth of play?
Post by: Max on November 05, 2011, 08:08:39 AM: Quote from: Cooley on November 05, 2011, 02:27:46 AM
Rooks are the Patriots, Bish are the Packers, Nits are the Dolphins

:cool:

Does that make Hitech Jerry Jones? :devil

Sorry Dale
Title: Re: How does your Country getting pwnd affect your mood and legnth of play?
Post by: icepac on November 05, 2011, 10:21:33 AM: I see the same mistakes made over and over with no attempt to learn from said mistakes.

The CV is always routed straight to shore battery and PT spawn.

It takes about 2 minutes to fire up the terrain in offline mode and figure out the sweep of the enemy shore battery of the field that is going to be attacked yet I see the same guys making the exact same pathetic course which ends with the shore battery killing the cv for the 4th time that day.

I don't care how country does but it bothers me when country channel is spammed with "help" requests from guys who attempted a poorly planned attack or whine on channel for 26 more guys to help take a base back they couldn't be bothered to defend just a minute earlier.

I find myself detuning all radio I can and just doing my own thing more often.