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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: donna43 on November 11, 2011, 01:33:21 AM
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http://www.historynet.com/twin-mustang-prototype-to-fly-again.htm
http://xp-82twinmustangproject.com/ :aok
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wow... :aok
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Building it right down the road from me. Have been to see it and the B-17 Project thats going on there. Watch the maiden flight of the p-40 that brooks sold here about a year ago. Alot of fun to go over and talk to those guys.
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Am I missing something?
They are building a 40' x 51' airplane in a hanger with what looks like a 16' door.
:headscratch:
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So what the heck was the purpose of this oddity?
I know the Germans designed a twin-109 model. The trick of that bird was 4x30mm cannons to compliment the 13.7mms and 20mms. It was purely for busting buffs at high altitude. One model built, damaged without ever having flown.
What did the weed smoking Americans think they needed a twin-51 for? I've wondered since I was a kid and first saw it.
Boo
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So what the heck was the purpose of this oddity?
I know the Germans designed a twin-109 model. The trick of that bird was 4x30mm cannons to compliment the 13.7mms and 20mms. It was purely for busting buffs at high altitude. One model built, damaged without ever having flown.
What did the weed smoking Americans think they needed a twin-51 for? I've wondered since I was a kid and first saw it.
Boo
Range.
Escorting B-29s and B-36s on loooong range bombing runs. Lots of gas and two pilots so one can rest while the other flies.
wrongway
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Wasn't there a reason why it never made it into production?... hope they know what they're doing, can't wait to see it fly.
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Wasn't there a reason why it never made it into production?... hope they know what they're doing, can't wait to see it fly.
It did make it into production.
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I seem to believe that an F-82 flying out of Japan scored the first air-to-air victory in the Korean War.
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Wasn't there a reason why it never made it into production?... hope they know what they're doing, can't wait to see it fly.
It was produced and served. Quite well even.
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If they're counted individually, how can #2 be rarer than #1 or #3?
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nm
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Wouldn't be good if he two pilots couldn't agree with each other :lol I wanna go this way, no I wanna go this way! haha
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It was a night fighter, the second guy was a radar operator. Not sure if he had controls for the plane. I could ask, but the guy I knew passed almost 3 years ago. He was in Korea, flying as the radar operator.
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I feel like it would be mandatory for the other guy to have controls. How messed up would it be if he didn't? If the pilot was wounded and couldn't get out but still alive and the co-pilot/radar operator bailed out that would be messed up. Also, I thought it was supposed to be a long range escort fighter with two pilots to ease the load of the boring flight so they should have two control sticks.
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I feel like it would be mandatory for the other guy to have controls. How messed up would it be if he didn't? If the pilot was wounded and couldn't get out but still alive and the co-pilot/radar operator bailed out that would be messed up. Also, I thought it was supposed to be a long range escort fighter with two pilots to ease the load of the boring flight so they should have two control sticks.
I know Jim was a private pilot and he lost his license at around 68, but I'm not sure about the controls. He was a big seller of trex equipment and flew a lot between Canada and the USA. They actually moved to Canada for a couple years. I knew his daughter from elementary and dated her when we were in our 30's.
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Didn't one player have an uncle that was killed in an F-82 testing out the lethality of the Japanese AAA over Tokyo?
ack-ack
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Didn't one player have an uncle that was killed in an F-82 testing out the lethality of the Japanese AAA over Tokyo?
ack-ack
It was a P-82 :old:
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Didn't one player have an uncle that was killed in an F-82 testing out the lethality of the Japanese AAA over Tokyo?
ack-ack
Think it was over Korea, but I make mistakes.
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So what the heck was the purpose of this oddity?
I know the Germans designed a twin-109 model. The trick of that bird was 4x30mm cannons to compliment the 13.7mms and 20mms. It was purely for busting buffs at high altitude. One model built, damaged without ever having flown.
What did the weed smoking Americans think they needed a twin-51 for? I've wondered since I was a kid and first saw it.
Boo
Yea, was it the 109Z. I believe they experiment a twin 190 and see a pic of twin He-111.
Speaking of the twin Mustang, was there somebody on this bbs claim their dad or grandfather flew the AC over Japan during the war?
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Didn't one player have an uncle that was killed in an F-82 testing out the lethality of the Japanese AAA over Tokyo?
ack-ack
Sorry Ack-Ack, did not see you asking the same quesion.
I seem to believe that an F-82 flying out of Japan scored the first air-to-air victory in the Korean War.
Not just one, but three air to air kills. They took on a Yak (9,11 or something in the yak family) and two La-9 i believe. Unless i mistake on that i am sure it was more than one kill on the day.
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It was years ago when I seen the pictures on his office wall, but I sent an email to my friend. She said she would try and get some pics and any info her mom knows about her dad. He got out of the Air force in 52.
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It was a night fighter, the second guy was a radar operator. Not sure if he had controls for the plane. I could ask, but the guy I knew passed almost 3 years ago. He was in Korea, flying as the radar operator.
Not originally. It was designed as an escort.
I'm pretty certain the night fighter version did not have dual controls.
Didn't one player have an uncle that was killed in an F-82 testing out the lethality of the Japanese AAA over Tokyo?
ack-ack
I get it.
Obviously not alot of prodigious BBS readers in this thread.
wrongway
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The biggest problem that they are going to have is finding props for it. It had counter rotating props and I can't remember which one but one is VERY rare, and VERY EXPENSIVE. It is the same thing that has kept the CAFs P-82 down for over 20 years.
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The biggest problem that they are going to have is finding props for it. It had counter rotating props and I can't remember which one but one is VERY rare, and VERY EXPENSIVE. It is the same thing that has kept the CAFs P-82 down for over 20 years.
They have props...brand new ones.
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Who does the new guys or the CAF?
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The plane in the second pic has two hard points and no guns that I can see.
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Who does the new guys or the CAF?
if you read the article.. you would have seen that they had two props specially made for them...
it also says, which i knew before, that their plane also came form Walter Soplata. He had the prototype and a production model. Its weird they said they need props and an engine because both of Walter's twin mustangs had both engines and props still on them.
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Glad that someone is getting one up. I watched the one the CAF had crash when I was a kid. The guy just flared to hi, and dropped it in, on Rnwy 14 at KHRL. It was a beautiful airplane while it was flying, and even setting on the ground it looks fast.
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"The plane in the second pic has two hard points and no guns that I can see."
Six 50's in center wing section. Plain as day
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Who does the new guys or the CAF?
Tom Reilly's outfit.
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The Twin Mustang uses Allison G series V-1710 engines. It is not a problem at all to find an engine, and even if it is the engine for the other side, it is not a problem to convert it.
Propellers, however, can be a problem, they are a problem for the P-38 as well. Especially considering what a piece of crap the Curtiss Electric propeller is.
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I feel like it would be mandatory for the other guy to have controls. How messed up would it be if he didn't? If the pilot was wounded and couldn't get out but still alive and the co-pilot/radar operator bailed out that would be messed up. Also, I thought it was supposed to be a long range escort fighter with two pilots to ease the load of the boring flight so they should have two control sticks.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-yuk8-YU99_o/UD91JXxt2EI/AAAAAAAABZ0/sSuYYB5jZmw/s1600/Stick+Towers.jpg (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-yuk8-YU99_o/UD91JXxt2EI/AAAAAAAABZ0/sSuYYB5jZmw/s1600/Stick+Towers.jpg)
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Double vision...
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Yea, was it the 109Z. I believe they experiment a twin 190 and see a pic of twin He-111.
Speaking of the twin Mustang, was there somebody on this bbs claim their dad or grandfather flew the AC over Japan during the war?
The He 111Z went into limited production. It wasn't a bomber though, but a glider tug.
(http://acesflyinghigh.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/he-111z-go-242.jpg?w=690)