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Title: GV Turns
Post by: chaser on November 17, 2011, 07:14:14 PM
I wish that when you turn a GV, it doesn't auto turn almost back to the direction you were originally going.
Title: Re: GV Turns
Post by: MachFly on November 17, 2011, 07:18:16 PM
What do you mean?
Title: Re: GV Turns
Post by: chaser on November 17, 2011, 08:03:47 PM
Up a GV, start driving, and turn it. You'll see what I mean.
Title: Re: GV Turns
Post by: skorpion on November 17, 2011, 08:26:34 PM
you were probably on a sloped area, like a small hill...dont drive on them. wish granted.
Title: Re: GV Turns
Post by: EskimoJoe on November 17, 2011, 08:28:22 PM
you were probably on a sloped area, like a small hill...dont drive on them. wish granted.

Wrong.

When turning at full speed, you don't retain your final desired heading.

You slowly turn back some ways towards your old direction.
Title: Re: GV Turns
Post by: SmokinLoon on November 17, 2011, 09:01:44 PM
Of all the things for HTC to correct, modify, or otherwise spend their time on I think this is quite minor.  I'm still not sure of this phenomenon.

What about the smooth terrain we always get to traverse?  What about the unlimited visibility we always have while in gv's?  Etc etc etc.

My opinion. 
Title: Re: GV Turns
Post by: ImADot on November 17, 2011, 09:37:15 PM
Wasn't there (sounds like there still is) an auto-pilot to maintain heading in GV's? If it's on and you turn, it will slowly return to the "locked" heading.
Title: Re: GV Turns
Post by: chaser on November 17, 2011, 10:13:31 PM
Wasn't there (sounds like there still is) an auto-pilot to maintain heading in GV's? If it's on and you turn, it will slowly return to the "locked" heading.

That doesn't exist anymore with the new GV model.


And no I was on flat ground. They turn back when you let off the stick. Pretty frustrating in an M18.
Title: Re: GV Turns
Post by: Tank-Ace on November 17, 2011, 10:24:23 PM
I've also noticed this before I left. Really annoying when you're trying to fire at an aircraft, and your tank decides to have swerved into one of those hemp bushes from hell.
Title: Re: GV Turns
Post by: EskimoJoe on November 17, 2011, 11:44:16 PM
To be noted it does not turn completely back to the old heading, only towards the old heading a good amount.

Very annoying to deal with.
Title: Re: GV Turns
Post by: guncrasher on November 18, 2011, 12:58:31 AM
yup the op is right vh's tend to turn back towards the old heading unless you keep the new heading on for a couple of seconds.


semp
Title: Re: GV Turns
Post by: AWwrgwy on November 18, 2011, 02:39:58 AM
I wish that when you turn a GV, it doesn't auto turn almost back to the direction you were originally going.

+1



What do you mean?


As in a car, when you turn and let go of the steering wheel, the car straightens out. In AH, the tank straightens out and continues to swing back the way you turned from.



wrongway
Title: Re: GV Turns
Post by: Chalenge on November 18, 2011, 03:30:21 AM
Wasn't there (sounds like there still is) an auto-pilot to maintain heading in GV's? If it's on and you turn, it will slowly return to the "locked" heading.

Yes and it still does.
Title: Re: GV Turns
Post by: 715 on November 18, 2011, 01:44:43 PM
When I complained about this Hitech said it was part of the auto heading feature of GVs- in other words it's an underdamped oscillator.  You bring the tanks heading say 45 degrees to the left and try to straighten out and the tank turns back by itself to something like 20 degs to the left of your initial heading.  I find it extremely annoying: you see a tree ahead you turn to miss it but the tank just turns back towards hitting it and you have to turn again.  Or you anticipate this effect and way oversteer your tank knowing it will turn back.  That, however, slows you down since turning engages brakes on one track and having to way over turn also means more slow down than necessary.  However, only about 20 to 25% of AHers are tankers so this problem is unimportant.
Title: Re: GV Turns
Post by: RTHolmes on November 18, 2011, 01:57:13 PM
is it worse in some GVs than others? I havent found it a problem, in fact it seems a bit like the kind of understeer you get with very heavy vehicles on soft ground. I havent driven a tank but I imagine they arent a scalpel-sharp steer.
Title: Re: GV Turns
Post by: chaser on November 18, 2011, 03:24:02 PM
The faster your going the worse the effect. It affects the M18 the worst. It's make run n gun especially hard if you ever have to turn and fire cause as soon as you let off the turn it swings way back around. Every GV is affected though. Just jot quite to the extent as the M18.
Title: Re: GV Turns
Post by: AWwrgwy on November 18, 2011, 11:54:03 PM
is it worse in some GVs than others? I havent found it a problem, in fact it seems a bit like the kind of understeer you get with very heavy vehicles on soft ground. I havent driven a tank but I imagine they arent a scalpel-sharp steer.

The faster your going the worse the effect. It affects the M18 the worst. It's make run n gun especially hard if you ever have to turn and fire cause as soon as you let off the turn it swings way back around. Every GV is affected though. Just jot quite to the extent as the M18.

M-3.

Find target. Turn. Jump to gun. Can't find target. Jump back to driver. Turn again. Jump back to gun.



wrongway
Title: Re: GV Turns
Post by: Chalenge on November 19, 2011, 12:24:22 AM
From the cupola I can steer with rudder pedals without a problem. Using A and D is less than the experience it could be but because of the pedals it doesnt bother me. The heading hold feature works as usual.
Title: Re: GV Turns
Post by: chaser on November 19, 2011, 12:39:43 AM
Thats why I don't use the A and D keys to steer. They make it even worse than my twisty stick that I use.
Title: Re: GV Turns
Post by: 715 on November 19, 2011, 03:00:39 AM
is it worse in some GVs than others? I havent found it a problem, in fact it seems a bit like the kind of understeer you get with very heavy vehicles on soft ground. I havent driven a tank but I imagine they arent a scalpel-sharp steer.

All vehicles are affected.  I've viewed videos of real tanks maneuvering around and none of them do anything like this, in fact the steering is rather precise.  There is nothing in physics that would cause a vehicle to turn back, there's no rubberband pulling them back towards the original heading.
Title: Re: GV Turns
Post by: chaser on November 19, 2011, 04:51:11 PM
All vehicles are affected.  I've viewed videos of real tanks maneuvering around and none of them do anything like this, in fact the steering is rather precise.  There is nothing in physics that would cause a vehicle to turn back, there's no rubberband pulling them back towards the original heading.

Excatly. So I don't know why ours spring back the opposite direction. If it has to do with the auto hold then I can do without it.
Title: Re: GV Turns
Post by: hitech on November 20, 2011, 01:52:00 PM
When I complained about this Hitech said it was part of the auto heading feature of GVs- in other words it's an underdamped oscillator.  You bring the tanks heading say 45 degrees to the left and try to straighten out and the tank turns back by itself to something like 20 degs to the left of your initial heading.  I find it extremely annoying: you see a tree ahead you turn to miss it but the tank just turns back towards hitting it and you have to turn again.  Or you anticipate this effect and way oversteer your tank knowing it will turn back.  That, however, slows you down since turning engages brakes on one track and having to way over turn also means more slow down than necessary.  However, only about 20 to 25% of AHers are tankers so this problem is unimportant.

when i was speaking of auto turn , should not be more that 1 or 2 degrees
Title: Re: GV Turns
Post by: chaser on November 20, 2011, 02:46:02 PM
when i was speaking of auto turn , should not be more that 1 or 2 degrees


But right now if you make say a 45 degree turn the M18 will swing back 10-15 degrees. Maybe more than that. It really takes away from its run n gun abilities because if you ever have to turn to miss a tree its going to swing back while your trying to shoot.