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Title: Trains and Boats and Planes
Post by: EVZ on November 18, 2011, 04:25:06 PM
Don't know if I'm resurecting an old topic ? But ... With the apparent interest in broadening the strategic influence on gameplay and providing alternative targets ... How about expanding the supply system (generously) with Truck Convoys, Supply Trains, and Merchant Shipping ? These could ALL be included as supply factors and I'd (?) like to see them effect a base's -HARDNESS-. Make it tougher for a HORDE to take a well supplied base. Interdicting supply routes would then have value. And !!! there should be a RANDOM factor involved in the schedule. (just to frustrate those stopwatchers).

ONE TRAIN, that spends a lot of time far from the front is of questionable? value. The Roads, Track Layout, and Nautical Navigation system are already present (AFAIK?), as is a (crude?) supply effect. I'm not sure how hard this would be to implement? But it SEEMS like it might be easy.

HUNTING down Convoys and Attacking Trains was a Common "rhubarb" mission during the push across France and into Germany, tasked mostly to P47s and P51s, it's one of the main reasons those planes have rockets ... It doesn't require a lot of specific target knowledge or planning, it's low level so there isn't any, "let's have a beer while the plane climbs" boredom involved. Might be a real good way for Noobs to start learning the game. The Merchant Shipping would add targets for PT boats and ? MAYBE justify adding the PBY too?   :pray
Title: Re: Trains and Boats and Planes
Post by: tmetal on November 18, 2011, 04:30:54 PM
One of my fondest wishes for AH is to one day be able to sink a merchant ship with a stuka. As for the trucks and trains, I will throw out the obligotory phrase "we already have both in game" so no one else will feel the need to; but I would love to see both trains and truck convoys moving cross country more and while we are in a logistical wishing mood, throw in some destructable bridges too.  :pray
Title: Re: Trains and Boats and Planes
Post by: EVZ on November 18, 2011, 07:28:25 PM
One of my fondest wishes for AH is to one day be able to sink a merchant ship with a stuka. As for the trucks and trains, I will throw out the obligotory phrase "we already have both in game" so no one else will feel the need to.

I'm aware there's a supply train, read about ROADS but I don't recall seeing trucks mentioned. That's why I added the  -GENEROUSLY- comment. I'm not real experienced with this game, but I have been flying a lot and I have YET to see a truck or train. I'd expect a front line base to be scheduled for 3 or 4 road convoys (8-10 trucks and a jeep or 2? M-16?) a day with (possibly?) automatic (limited?) resupply by AIR if the trucks get hit. Train's should run continuously from factorys / refinerys / training bases to distribution hubs (large fields?) that service outlying bases (maybe 1 hub per 5 fields? for small map?).

PT boats are a LOT of FUN !!! but ? Lot's or boring cruise time may be involved just to make a run into a heavily armed Task Force and Die? Not such an attractive option? An armed merchant (couple off 50s, + a 20mm, maybe a 3" naval gun on LARGE ones?) might be a survivable challenge? AND great targets for that slow old PBY too ! I read complaints about "Landing" PTs being ? impossible? A combination NAVAL STATION (hangar) at Ports (+ costal bases) could service BOTH PTs, PBYs, AND accept Merchant Marine deliverys ... The Fuel & Ords are already in place. Would this be HARD to implement?  :pray
Title: Re: Trains and Boats and Planes
Post by: BuckP on November 18, 2011, 10:45:29 PM
As with some of my other posts, I fully subscribe to expanding/modifying the strat system.  I feel it would be a great avenue for the game, opening up more options for us players, new and old.  To me it seems that new life will come into the game as a direct result.  Currently the game is dying and it would really suck to see this game go as there really is no comparison.  We just need more options.
Title: Re: Trains and Boats and Planes
Post by: 4deck on November 19, 2011, 08:19:23 AM
Im all for a revamp of the strats.  :aok
Title: Re: Trains and Boats and Planes
Post by: Meatwad on November 21, 2011, 10:58:18 AM
Were the truck convoys removed?
Title: Re: Trains and Boats and Planes
Post by: ImADot on November 21, 2011, 12:16:11 PM
Were the truck convoys removed?

Nope, they should still be out there...somewhere...
Title: Re: Trains and Boats and Planes
Post by: FLS on November 21, 2011, 12:51:13 PM
There are also barges that supply bases in addition to the trucks and trains.
Title: Re: Trains and Boats and Planes
Post by: BuckP on November 21, 2011, 01:07:26 PM
But....the barges and trucks and the one train per side mean absolutely nothing in the game.  They aren't even good eye candy since so many people don't see them.  If you blow them up they give next to nothing in points/perks and they don't seem to really have much of an effect on the bases. 

Title: Re: Trains and Boats and Planes
Post by: ImADot on November 21, 2011, 01:45:08 PM
But....the barges and trucks and the one train per side mean absolutely nothing in the game.  They aren't even good eye candy since so many people don't see them.  If you blow them up they give next to nothing in points/perks and they don't seem to really have much of an effect on the bases. 

Points/perks are not that important...to some.

If you destroy the whole barge/convoy, destroyed objects at the base they were destined to resupply will stay down longer.  At least that's how it used to work.
Title: Re: Trains and Boats and Planes
Post by: MAINER on November 21, 2011, 02:15:58 PM
i always liked hunting barges i still do to!
Title: Re: Trains and Boats and Planes
Post by: titanic3 on November 21, 2011, 09:27:31 PM
Nothing like driving along in a tank and then OH MY GOD A TRUCK.

"Hey, who turned the mountain upside down?"
 :bhead
Title: Re: Trains and Boats and Planes
Post by: icepac on November 21, 2011, 10:25:04 PM
I destroy more trains and truck convoys than any other aces high pilot.
Title: Re: Trains and Boats and Planes
Post by: MK-84 on November 22, 2011, 08:31:41 PM
I destroy more trains and truck convoys than any other aces high pilot.

Would you like a cookie?
Title: Re: Trains and Boats and Planes
Post by: icepac on November 22, 2011, 11:18:20 PM
Sure......I do what you merely discuss.
Title: Re: Trains and Boats and Planes
Post by: Infidelz on November 23, 2011, 06:16:33 AM
Were the truck convoys removed?

No they are strategically set to run across the runway as before you have enough energy to lift in a perk plane. Well not lately but that was what they used to be good for.

infidelz.