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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: MaSonZ on November 19, 2011, 12:27:48 PM
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in my 3D design class im making a F4u corsair, fun project. looking at getting something for my home to fiddle with when i get money. thoughts on a program? school use Rhinoceros 4.0
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Blender :aok
great free 3d program
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Get a student copy of AutoDesk. As someone who works in the blueprinting industry, you'll find more support for that program and its exportables than the others. It's a bit more expensive than some of the others, but I think you can get a student version for $300 or so.
It will add a stamp onto your plots that says, "PRODUCED WITH A STUDENT VERSION OF AUTODESK". You can get around this by plotting to a larger canvas size than is needed, then cropping the image... (you'd think they'd figure that one out).
Also, DXF's are a very common format for CNC Mills, so if you plan on having something doing the cutting for you on a material, AutoDesk has it ready to go without having to convert the files or buy add-ons and drivers.
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Get a student copy of AutoDesk. As someone who works in the blueprinting industry, you'll find more support for that program and its exportables than the others. It's a bit more expensive than some of the others, but I think you can get a student version for $300 or so.
It will add a stamp onto your plots that says, "PRODUCED WITH A STUDENT VERSION OF AUTODESK". You can get around this by plotting to a larger canvas size than is needed, then cropping the image... (you'd think they'd figure that one out).
Also, DXF's are a very common format for CNC Mills, so if you plan on having something doing the cutting for you on a material, AutoDesk has it ready to go without having to convert the files or buy add-ons and drivers.
I downloaded Autodesk for free as a student.
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In my CAD class we use AutoDesk CAD and Fusion for 3-D work
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I downloaded Autodesk for free as a student.
thats grat, I never had a free autocad......... damn costs of diffrin versions have been 900 to 4K....
I do know a student of a college or cc, can get them at a discounted cost though.... my work never allowed the use of them though for goverment/law/code reasons etc..... I was commercial..
TC
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I use Autocad and Mastercam X5 for all my 2d 3d drawings....but if your in school umm use what they have??
Mastercam is 18k and autocad isn't cheap either
the cheaper you go with software the more difficult it is to do complex stuff so...simple thing's might be fine with crap software.
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I did a 3 view wire frame orthographic projection of the b70 using Basic language on a IBM 8088 that only had floppy drives.
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I did a 3 view wire frame orthographic projection of the b70 using Basic language on a IBM 8088 that only had floppy drives.
isn't it strange how back then on our 8088's, 286's etc.... that you had so little ram and HD size, but the code was written so well that you never really needed all this extra
but as time passes on, it seems the programmers to a degree got lazy and instead of writing effcient code they just kept copying/pasting and looping , which in return made systems start to require more ram and capacity including video..... now I am not talking about the advancement in technology in this regard...... I paid more for a dand 486 25mhz than I did for my last i7-2600k build with (2) RAID 0 128GB SSD's, (1) 1.5TB sata III HD, 2 GB VC , ASUS xonar SC, 16 GB Ram and thermaltakelevel 10 GT case, bluray DL burner and bluray player/DVD burner....
and that old 486 was running windows 3.0 before I updated it and wasone of the first with a cdrom drive..... it still costed over 3 grand...... networking was a hoot to learn too, had cable and bnc connectors/tfittings everywhere...
sorry to hijack.......
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http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/item?siteID=123112&id=14185424 (http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/item?siteID=123112&id=14185424)
Try this out.
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I would try Solidworks for 3d Design.
http://www.solidworks.com/sw/education/SDL_welcome.html (http://www.solidworks.com/sw/education/SDL_welcome.html)
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Hi
Aviation Art of Marek Ryś
http://www.airart3d.com/?p=956
http://www.airart3d.com/?page_id=169
Made with Blender 3D.
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Hi
Aviation Art of Marek Ryś
http://www.airart3d.com/?p=956
http://www.airart3d.com/?page_id=169
Made with Blender 3D.
Holy Crap.
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I use Autocad and Mastercam X5 for all my 2d 3d drawings....but if your in school umm use what they have??
Mastercam is 18k and autocad isn't cheap either
the cheaper you go with software the more difficult it is to do complex stuff so...simple thing's might be fine with crap software.
I dont mind Rhinoceros, which is what my school uses, but theres things I have to do that I can't do in one or two complex steps. Its a challenge to make the wings. In rHinoceros you cant make the shape of the wing and then taper it back for the trailing edge of it. everything has to be done manually and slowly and tediously. I dont want to go for broke, but I also dont want to spend money on something that is going to be a pain to work with.
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...simple thing's might be fine with crap software.
Hehe Mastercrash is crap software. :)
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3dMax and Autocad from Kinetix useda be pretty cheap with student discounts. Could get them thru any college library.
I useda take a summer math refresher course back in the day, and get a copy.
-Frank aka GE
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Hi
Aviation Art of Marek Ryś
http://www.airart3d.com/?p=956
http://www.airart3d.com/?page_id=169
Made with Blender 3D.
Blender is awesome even though its free.....you can do everything with it....and its not difficult to use.
thats why I said Blender in the first place :rofl
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Had to use 3dsMax at work for something quick...just downloaded the 30 day trial lol.
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Had to use 3dsMax at work for something quick...just downloaded the 30 day trial lol.
screw 3dsmax I have it...blender is better :aok
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screw 3dsmax I have it...blender is better :aok
No idea what's better, but I knew how to do things in 3dsmax and not blender, so it was more useful haha.
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I use TurboCad. It's not as inexpensive as it used to be but it is fairly easy to use. I find much easier to use than AutoCad, though I may be a little biased since I have countless hours and many drawings on TurboCad and almost no time on AutoCad.
Learning a CAD program can be very challenging but as I have told you before, there are so many benefits to doing your drawings in CAD. I have been sorry I purchased my version of TurboCad.
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No idea what's better, but I knew how to do things in 3dsmax and not blender, so it was more useful haha.
:rofl
that's why I said that about blender :rofl
I didn't like 3dmax although I opened it once I think, but have so much time using Blender I said screw it and just stick with blender.
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Hi
Aviation Art of Marek Ryś
http://www.airart3d.com/?p=956
http://www.airart3d.com/?page_id=169
Made with Blender 3D.
Nice work
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Pro E is another but it is like 13k for the basic set.
I do most of my design in AutoCad
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isn't it strange how back then on our 8088's, 286's etc.... that you had so little ram and HD size, but the code was written so well that you never really needed all this extra
but as time passes on, it seems the programmers to a degree got lazy and instead of writing effcient code they just kept copying/pasting and looping , which in return made systems start to require more ram and capacity including video..... now I am not talking about the advancement in technology in this regard...... I paid more for a dand 486 25mhz than I did for my last i7-2600k build with (2) RAID 0 128GB SSD's, (1) 1.5TB sata III HD, 2 GB VC , ASUS xonar SC, 16 GB Ram and thermaltakelevel 10 GT case, bluray DL burner and bluray player/DVD burner....
and that old 486 was running windows 3.0 before I updated it and wasone of the first with a cdrom drive..... it still costed over 3 grand...... networking was a hoot to learn too, had cable and bnc connectors/tfittings everywhere...
sorry to hijack.......
True....programmers now find it easy to dip into a resource pool and string together "modules" from that pool to get what they want.
The code generated is full of unnecessary stuff and I fought it for a long time using turbo pascal instead of C++ because it flew through processors faster......but times change.
I still love running old software through new hardware and revisit old games often to find them far better.....now that I can run them with everything enabled.
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I still hoard my AutoCAD 2000i (instructors student version) like gold. I got my hands on it when I went to ITT Tech, it has something extremely rare amongst AutoDesk software, especialy these days, an unlocked unlimited distribution license ( :devil ). It just saddens me it's now like 10+ years old, oh well. But it still works well and comes in handy since IMO most the architects I work with still save in 2000/2002 drawing file formats.
Try to befriend a CAD instructor with a CD burner :D . Next choice, go for the student versions.
I used AutoCAD LT 2006 at work and home, with 2000i on backup if I need to do the occasional thing that LT won't let me do. I'm pretty much all 2D, I've gotte rusty on a lot of my 3D (unless it's 3D in CAD, but that's been phased out in favor of AutoDesk's REVIT for 3D it seems).
I curse AutoDesk, they're a f!@#$ monopoly, and $900-$4000 for a copy!? I'm not a cheap or shoty person myself, or at least I try not to be, but that still has about a $250 limit for software, especialy one from a company whos development is so well funded they're popping out new versions or additional products for the same tasks/professions every other year.
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going to the getting a student copy from an instructor bab, if i understood my instructor right he is willing to loan me his usb drive with Rhinoceros 4.0 on it to install on my machine. may just do that for a few more years until i save up money for something more enjoyable :rock
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going to the getting a student copy from an instructor bab, if i understood my instructor right he is willing to loan me his usb drive with Rhinoceros 4.0 on it to install on my machine. may just do that for a few more years until i save up money for something more enjoyable :rock
Honestly, if there was a better way for a CADD/graphics student fresh outa school and working to pay off debts, I'd encourage you to do that instead, but there isn't, and your instructor seems to be cool/real enough to know this and is simpley providing you with the tools you'll need to be successful (they're also careful about who they provide them to, as it's an immensley valuable asset for them as well).
Make copies of the software that your instructor is providing you with so that you can reinstall and use it later for yourself, but keep that hand of cards close to yourself and don't host it on the internet or hand out a copy to a half-dozen friends. It's rare, but AutoDesk does try to crack down on the most blatantly abused unlimited licenses (with instructor unlimited and student limited licenses, we're talking in the high hundreds if not low thousands, a couple hundred in a day is nothing unusual for them as they figure that's just another CAD lab reinstalling), and so long as nobody else with a copy of your golden hen decides to post it publicly on the internet, it'll be immensley valuable to you until such a time that you can afford buying it.
Best of luck!