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Title: Seriously?
Post by: BaldEagl on November 26, 2011, 09:22:20 AM
Why do so many take this GAME so seriously?

Do you take it too seriously?
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: JOACH1M on November 26, 2011, 09:24:05 AM
I spend money on this game...this is why it is somewhat serious
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: Lusche on November 26, 2011, 09:27:32 AM
Why do so many take this GAME so seriously?

Do you take it too seriously?


Is taking a game seriously bad? When is seriously "too" seriously?  :headscratch:
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: Tyrannis on November 26, 2011, 09:31:54 AM
Why do so many take this GAME so seriously?

Do you take it too seriously?
I think taking this game serious as in its game mechanics and its future is alright, since we're investing money into it.

But i think its stupid how people overreact to the way others play and try to police the game to make people play how THEY want them too.
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: GNucks on November 26, 2011, 09:33:04 AM
I've raged a few times when I'm screwed out of a good fight by the game (puffy ack) or another player (there's nobody else in sector, just wait a moment and I'll fight you too!), but I don't express my anger through the keyboard causing a purse fight on 200. I did make a snippy remark the other day, didn't call anyone names, but apologized later.

The only thing I take seriously nowadays is the opportunity to fight, I don't fret over the fight itself, but when one's dangled on a string in front of me and whisked away 10 times I'll get frustrated.

Still a fun game though, I'd rather play it than anything else.
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: matt on November 26, 2011, 09:48:17 AM
Why do so many take this GAME so seriously?

Do you take it too seriously?

i only get mad when i get killed by players that worp across the screen
their wing tip to wing tip then 2 k behind  then your dead :furious

Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: Big Rat on November 26, 2011, 09:58:43 AM
In some respects I probably do take it too seriously, in most I do not.  I tend to take my dogfighting very seriously, I'm thinking this is mostly from the trainer aspect.  A lost aircraft in my mind is percieved as weakness in my ability, and therefore weakness in my ability to teach.  I know this is almost entirely on my end of perception but it still does bother me.  GV'ing on the other hand I know I'm not good at (except wirbles), so I can play them with absolutely no stress.

 :salute
BigRat    
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: SmokinLoon on November 26, 2011, 10:01:29 AM
Some people live and die by the number of bases that their team has.  It is those people that can be a very big drag on morale, if that is what we're calling it.  The constant crying, taunting, and finger pointing gets old.  

I just and remind people as politely as I can that unless they can put it on their resume' then it really doesn't matter what happens in the game.  Then there is the opposite extreme and that would be those players who care for nothing except their score.  Those players are easy to spot, they are the ones who constantly take up the crutch aircraft (P51D, La7, Spit16, etc) and refuse to be challenged by player or aircraft.
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: Tigger29 on November 26, 2011, 12:12:16 PM
Why do so many take this GAME so seriously?

Do you take it too seriously?

I'm with you here... people who make multiple posts because they were ticked off over something that happened IN A GAME on Thanksgiving really need to re-prioritize things in their lives...
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: waystin2 on November 26, 2011, 12:19:57 PM
I love this game.  See you guys up there! :aok
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: 68ZooM on November 26, 2011, 12:22:05 PM
I love this game.  See you guys up there! :aok

this game to me is not really a game but a way to make and enjoy Friendships, i have made some real great friends in my squad and someday to meet them in person, first ones going to be Waystin, he's a hell of a great friend.
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: JUGgler on November 26, 2011, 12:26:28 PM
Why do so many take this GAME so seriously?

Do you take it too seriously?

Why do so many play "not to lose"?





JUGgler
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: GNucks on November 26, 2011, 12:28:56 PM
Why do so many play "not to lose"?





JUGgler

IMO leaving a fight and going home without a scalp in hand is losing.
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: Lusche on November 26, 2011, 12:59:00 PM
IMO leaving a fight and going home without a scalp in hand is losing.

But not in my book ;)
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: GNucks on November 26, 2011, 01:07:53 PM
But not in my book ;)

What do you think? Of course what I said isn't an absolute, I wouldn't think that I lost if I left the fight PW'd by ack or something, but what's your opinion?
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: james on November 26, 2011, 01:17:20 PM
People pay 15 a month to have fun. They dont pay 15 a month to make it easy for you to kill them in the game. Taking p 51's or LA's or spit's is simply what players choose to use. To play this game like a run and gun first person shooter is fun to some, to rearm or end a sortie minus a kill is fun to others. It's not like it's a simulator. The arm chair historians ruin it alot as for what the game can be in the LW arena, but that's for another discussion. Enjoy it for what it is and try not to get wrapped up in the drama. Have a rum with your squadmates during a few runs. Above all, CHEERS!
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: Zoney on November 26, 2011, 01:18:36 PM
But not in my book ;)

+1


How many times have I attacked and then been jumped by a formidable foe(s), doing everything I can to survive, seeing my aircraft picked apart, engine oiled, pilot wounded, minimum control left from rapid part removable trying to make it home for a safe landing, calling on range for some help, not giving up EVER and then to have wheels touch down and end flight just as your blacking out again, maybe for the last time, and then ending mission without any kills at all.

That is fun, and technically I fought "not to lose".

Maybe I just don't understand what Juggler meant.
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: flatiron1 on November 26, 2011, 01:23:25 PM
i am as serious as a heart attack. :O
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: Lusche on November 26, 2011, 01:51:45 PM
What do you think? Of course what I said isn't an absolute, I wouldn't think that I lost if I left the fight PW'd by ack or something

Now that's a difference, and had you written that in your first post (which was very much absolute)  it would have had a different tone to it ;)


But to elaborate my personal stance: Getting shot down is losing. Getting kills is winning, and so is getting home as well as "having fun" which means having a good fight. Flying a wasted sortie without any enemy contact is losing, too. Sometimes there is a mission goal that doesn't even need a kill, if i made those bombers miss the CV or protected a goon - that's a win too. (Of course getting kills in the process is much more fun)

All these small wins and losses add up. Most people have many of those, it's just different how they are weighted for them.  For myself, getting home is very important, damage or not, kills or not. Getting shot down with two kills is much worse for me than getting home with none. Maybe that's a remnant of a juvenile "pretending to be a fighter pilot" that makes me cherish my virtual life, even though they are unlimited.

If I had to categorize myself: I'm much more a killer than a fighter. (There are many like out there like me, but few do admit  :noid)

So that may also have answered this
"
Why do so many play "not to lose"?

Because it's my fun.

And now I'm off to shoot down some low, overloaded buffs or afk Jabo's  :bolt:
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: Zoney on November 26, 2011, 01:57:25 PM
Snailman


"(There are many like out there like me, but few do admit)"

I do admit this as you have just described how I play.

Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: JUGgler on November 26, 2011, 02:04:10 PM
+1


How many times have I attacked and then been jumped by a formidable foe(s), doing everything I can to survive, seeing my aircraft picked apart, engine oiled, pilot wounded, minimum control left from rapid part removable trying to make it home for a safe landing, calling on range for some help, not giving up EVER and then to have wheels touch down and end flight just as your blacking out again, maybe for the last time, and then ending mission without any kills at all.

That is fun, and technically I fought "not to lose".

Maybe I just don't understand what Juggler meant.


Well this example I would say is "fighting to win". Hence surviving such an engagement is clearly a victory.

or if you had started the fight and were timid and realized you were out of your league and waited or as is used so often "extended" with no intention of risking a ping to win, untill you have help than I'd say you had played "not to lose" <-- this example is common place these days and not only from noobs ;)

The proof is here, If I were to fly a twit16 or any spit for that matter, or even a 109 I would find few who would fully commit to fight me to the end. Now if I fly "as I do so often" a less capable ride in a far less advantages (on the deck) postion such as a JU88, 110, jug, Boston, A20, 38 etc, etc then all of a sudden the same "play not to lose folks" are full of confidence and 'play to win". There is something to most folks that the thought of time in the tower stings so much it shows in their style, now don't get me wrong I do not think anyone should throw away their cartoon life without effort to win but cmon look around while in the game, it gets quite comical, boring and predictable all the time, sad really!

I say when I fly into a gaggle of 4-5 cons, the 4-5 cons should fully engage me, sadly maybe 1-2 will the others will go to the top of the key and do no more than make me avoid them while turn fighting the others!  those at the top of the key "play not to lose"  Bah such is humanity! take take take, offer little in return!


JUGgler
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: Lusche on November 26, 2011, 02:17:12 PM
There is something to most folks that the thought of time in the tower stings so much it shows in their style, now don't get me wrong I do not think anyone should throw away their cartoon life without effort to win but cmon look around while in the game, it gets quite comical, boring and predictable all the time, sad really!

Please see the following not as a direct reply to you personally, your statement just brought up a thought in me:

Anything can and will become boring and predictable in most games at some point. If everybody would fly and fight according to the "furballers dream" (I'm deliberately exaggerating) , being honorable, brave and only in the game for the "fight" - then I would be bored to tears pretty quick. In fact I have, that's pretty much the thing that quickly burned me out on WW1.
In my opinion, the MA  is still the least predictable and least boring place in AH. That doesn't mean it's entirely unpredictable, the patterns are clearly visible and everybody staying around for a while will arrive at the point of "been here done that". But still there is much more variation than in other arenas. You never really know what to expect, you just know the probability your next enemy will simply try to ho you is very high ;)

But I think I strayed away from Baldies original topic. Sorry about that  :salute

Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: JUGgler on November 26, 2011, 02:42:16 PM
Please see the following not as a direct reply to you personally, your statement just brought up a thought in me:

Anything can and will become boring and predictable in most games at some point. If everybody would fly and fight according to the "furballers dream" (I'm deliberately exaggerating) , being honorable, brave and only in the game for the "fight" - then I would be bored to tears pretty quick. In fact I have, that's pretty much the thing that quickly burned me out on WW1.
In my opinion, the MA  is still the least predictable and least boring place in AH. That doesn't mean it's entirely unpredictable, the patterns are clearly visible and everybody staying around for a while will arrive at the point of "been here done that". But still there is much more variation than in other arenas. You never really know what to expect, you just know the probability your next enemy will simply try to ho you is very high ;)

But I think I strayed away from Baldies original topic. Sorry about that  :salute



I agree, it is predictably unpredictable in its predictability    :salute


I think I could easily predict my 1st encounter upon my return in a few days :aok
 the odds of me being correct I suspect would be quite high!


JUGgler
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: Tyrannis on November 26, 2011, 02:43:06 PM
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,324230.0.html
 :noid
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: JUGgler on November 26, 2011, 02:54:01 PM
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,324230.0.html
 :noid



No-one is asking for 1v1. I would just like to see the majority of folks I engage or who engage me to "play to win". In other words if it's 1v10 it would be nice to be fighting more than 2 while avoiding B&Z from the other 8 :aok  How about the 8 fight and 2 B&Z?





JUGgler
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: uptown on November 26, 2011, 05:23:13 PM
I agree, it is predictably unpredictable in its predictability     :salute

 :lol  :huh

anyhooo, I play any and every game to win in a honest and fair manner. But a few years ago I had a hard time accepting that I'll never be a top shelf player. No matter how hard I tried or how many hours I logged, i would never be able to reach Skyrockdom or beat Akak in a 1 vs 1. And that not everyone on the internet was going to like or admire me for my online capabilities. Once that sunk into my thick skull I started to just enjoy the game in the pure sense in the word.   
Regrettably I've lost a few good friends in the game over the years trying to figure that out. Now, my main goal is to be as respectful as possible to the next guy no manner what his skill level is and just enjoy the simple fact that I can sit down and play a game such as this in my spare time. That's what I'm serious about these days.  :salute
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: W7LPNRICK on November 26, 2011, 05:27:01 PM
I think taking this game serious as in its game mechanics and its future is alright, since we're investing money into it.

But i think its stupid how people overreact to the way others play and try to police the game to make people play how THEY want them too.
Agreed unless it involves outright cheating.  :old:  :furious
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: Sunka on November 26, 2011, 05:44:23 PM
Why do so many take this GAME so seriously?

Do you take it too seriously?
Game??? Well this puts a whole new light on things for me then.
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: ink on November 26, 2011, 05:58:43 PM
I do take it as a serious game.....I very much enjoy fighting and dying to the hoard.....I have learned that no matter what though there are people who really care about there cartoon life....to me that's just lame game play.


I used to fly straight to the biggest red dar attack as many as I can...now I am a bit smarter or at least try to be...so I grab some ALT and then fly to the biggest red dar, make them earn that kill, but then they still dont "earn" it.

when I jump 5 cons and they ALL hit the deck and run to the ACK I wonder whats the point :headscratch:
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: Tyrannis on November 26, 2011, 06:13:20 PM
I do take it as a serious game.....I very much enjoy fighting and dying to the hoard.....I have learned that no matter what though there are people who really care about there cartoon life....to me that's just lame game play.


I used to fly straight to the biggest red dar attack as many as I can...now I am a bit smarter or at least try to be...so I grab some ALT and then fly to the biggest red dar, make them earn that kill, but then they still dont "earn" it.

when I jump 5 cons and they ALL hit the deck and run to the ACK I wonder whats the point :headscratch:
If i saw a guy like you with an axe diving on me i'd hit the deck too.  :noid
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: Guppy35 on November 26, 2011, 06:16:23 PM
I do take it as a serious game.....I very much enjoy fighting and dying to the hoard.....I have learned that no matter what though there are people who really care about there cartoon life....to me that's just lame game play.


I used to fly straight to the biggest red dar attack as many as I can...now I am a bit smarter or at least try to be...so I grab some ALT and then fly to the biggest red dar, make them earn that kill, but then they still dont "earn" it.

when I jump 5 cons and they ALL hit the deck and run to the ACK I wonder whats the point :headscratch:

Does the alt really help?  I find I end up on the bottom of the pile anyway :)
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: GNucks on November 26, 2011, 06:20:00 PM
Does the alt really help?  I find I end up on the bottom of the pile anyway :)

Well the goal is to nab a few on your way down.
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: wiskyfog on November 26, 2011, 06:20:55 PM
imo, i pay my 15 for "The Moment" when your bomber x-hairs cross your target or dropping on a panzer or watching you bullet stream rip your opponent to shreds, we live for the moment that supplies us with that adrenlin flow and when something interrupts that or takes it away we have instant withdrawal from not getting our "fix" and some have a reaction, from ah oh well to a screaming banshee spouting out colorful metaphors (cussin) forgetting that there are some young sticks that should'nt hear that..
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: ink on November 26, 2011, 06:22:02 PM
If i saw a guy like you with an axe diving on me i'd hit the deck too.  :noid

 :rofl


Does the alt really help?  I find I end up on the bottom of the pile anyway :)

it does help for sure, but a lot of times they are still higher  :rofl

but with ALT you hold the cards...I have suppressed like 15 cons by myself,  I always...well most often, end up being ganged anyways but at least this way I can make them work for it, and still get a great fight . :joystick:

Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: kilo2 on November 26, 2011, 06:24:00 PM
Does the alt really help?  I find I end up on the bottom of the pile anyway :)

Alt really helps you can control a furball by being above it. It is fun suppressing 9 or 10 planes killing 4 or 5 and making it out.
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: Guppy35 on November 26, 2011, 06:25:31 PM
:rofl


it does help for sure, but a lot of times they are still higher  :rofl

but with ALT you hold the cards...I have suppressed like 15 cons by myself,  I always...well most often, end up being ganged anyways but at least this way I can make them work for it, and still get a great fight . :joystick:



I find lately that I get more giggles from watching the BnZ guys auger trying to get me right on the tree tops.  My best run without firing a shot last week was three.  Two Mustangs and a Spit XVI :)
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: ink on November 26, 2011, 06:38:08 PM
I find lately that I get more giggles from watching the BnZ guys auger trying to get me right on the tree tops.  My best run without firing a shot last week was three.  Two Mustangs and a Spit XVI :)


 :rofl

that is sad if you really think about it...not sad for you but them.
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: GNucks on November 26, 2011, 06:39:50 PM
I was that bad once. I still hit a tree once in a while stalling the Hog. Becoming one with greatness one plane at a time I guess  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: Guppy35 on November 26, 2011, 06:56:04 PM

 :rofl

that is sad if you really think about it...not sad for you but them.

It was one of those up into a horde bits over our base.  Cactus and I were laughing at the futility of it all while competing to see who could auger the most in.  You know the guys up high in the cloud of red are just wetting themselves to see a target actually come up so there is a mad race to see who gets to the target first.  Some just forget to watch their alt and their speed while trying to beat their buddies to the kill :)
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: JUGgler on November 26, 2011, 06:57:00 PM
Does the alt really help?  I find I end up on the bottom of the pile anyway :)

Nice troll  :aok  I'm suprised on the nibbles  :neener:

I'll be back improving everyone elses scores soon  :aok

alt is over-rated and a waste of time  :aok

Anything over 5K is gluttony



JUGgler
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: matt on November 26, 2011, 07:05:08 PM
this game to me is not really a game but a way to make and enjoy Friendships, i have made some real great friends in my squad and someday to meet them in person, first ones going to be Waystin, he's a hell of a great friend.

 :aok
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: kilo2 on November 26, 2011, 07:07:51 PM
It was one of those up into a horde bits over our base.  Cactus and I were laughing at the futility of it all while competing to see who could auger the most in.  You know the guys up high in the cloud of red are just wetting themselves to see a target actually come up so there is a mad race to see who gets to the target first.  Some just forget to watch their alt and their speed while trying to beat their buddies to the kill :)

You have a skewed view of people who are not down turning and burning all day.
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: Guppy35 on November 26, 2011, 07:17:05 PM
You have a skewed view of people who are not down turning and burning all day.


Nah, there are lots of guys who BnZ really well.  And then there are those that boom from 6K out, miss and zoom into the next area code before coming back.    The guys that can do it, knowing how to anticipate the move of the guy they are diving on and know how to use their throttle etc are an entirely different breed.  It's fun trying to 'defeat' their moves while being their target.

If that's your deal, more power to ya.  It's not the way I choose to play, but that's just me.  I can't help but end up trying to bend my plane on the deck.
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: W7LPNRICK on November 26, 2011, 08:03:27 PM
:rofl


it does help for sure, but a lot of times they are still higher  :rofl

but with ALT you hold the cards...I have suppressed like 15 cons by myself,  I always...well most often, end up being ganged anyways but at least this way I can make them work for it, and still get a great fight . :joystick:
Yup I get really urinated when I climb all they way there in my 110 w/ rockets just to find some turn fighter hovering waiting for me to vulch slow bombers... :furious :D
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: DrJackyI on November 26, 2011, 08:30:03 PM
What I am about to say may or mat not apply to ppl.

Ever since Air Warriors, I have always flown "FOR" the "TEAM" i was on. No offense to ppl but I would just like to say that "GENERALLY" this is a very fun game to play. unfortunately, there are those (the majority ( over 50%)) that have gotten a little above themselves and have become either to "CLICKISH", or to worried about there fantasy life.

Everytime I roll, I do so with the full intentions of landing. no matter what happens during my flight, it does not matter........"CAN I LAND IT". BUT !!!
number one rule  1: FLY FOR THE TEAM !!!. If someone needs my help I (80% of the time) will give a helping hand unless I HAVE to rtb because of damage, and even then I might still help..... once shot down 2 spit 16's missing left stab and vator and aileron, clearing them from the 6 of a team m8.

Now unfortunately!!, there are those that just will not lend a hand, they might have 3 kills, ur engaged with 2 low, and a co alt con is coming, but instead of making 1 simple dive to try to break up the 2 low then climb to meet the high one, they either stay high for the high one, "OR", high tail it away and leave u sitting with 3 just to protect their  "WHATEVER" !!

Some things will never change but somethings can change if the ppl that play the game WANT to change it. there is one thing that "WE ALL" can do and that is fly for the team first, squad second, urself third. As soon as everyone realizes that we all should help each other instead of belittling them with immature remarks (i.e. "time to squelch so and so because someone makes a statement u dont like) but yet have no involvement with the circumstances, or sticking their noses into a conversation that they have no part in logistically. I guarantee you that everyone will have 2 things happen.

1: much more enjoyable game experience.
2: everyone will be landing more often with more kills or more damage (depending on what u fly for).


~DS~
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: Daddkev on November 26, 2011, 11:59:49 PM
Huh? :joystick:
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: ebfd11 on November 27, 2011, 01:11:21 AM
I look at it this way, its a game and I play to have fun. If my fun involves killing you and I die, Ohh well, its only a game. This is my outlet on reality. I come here to kill or be killed, mainly the latter. If my side wins tha warz ... yeeeehaaaww.. If they don't Ohh well. People need to learn from a  good friend of mine,,


Do
I
Look
Like
I
Give
A
F***

I learned this motto and stick to it.

Remember ITS ONLY A GAME

Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: flakmgc on November 27, 2011, 04:59:20 PM
I take it seriously just for the fact that this is the closest I will ever come to fighting a a pony in the real-war. Keeping in mind it is a game and not blowing up and punching my screen or wife.

However, JUGler, Why do you seem suprised that someone, like myself in a pony would extend after a run at you in a spit or other turning plane, THEN stick around when your in a lunker? I gaurantee if a real pony pilot went at a Temp or spit in REAL life it would be the same. Allies had the good planes, and as in AH, when they're all mixed within each country it changes the game and tactics a bit. So, why you rumble on 200 telling me how I'm timid, I'll agree....A timid, tactful, victory. Don't forget, I love you.
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: flakmgc on November 27, 2011, 05:04:35 PM
Back on topic, You have to take it seriously to the point of flying the purpose of the LW Main Arena. The PURPOSE is to take real-estate.

IF YOU WANT TO JUST RACK UP KILLS AND NOT CHECK YOUR BUD'S 6 AND OVERALL HELP THE TEAM........GO TO THE DA!!!
 :old:
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: LCADolby on November 27, 2011, 05:07:44 PM
You know you take the game too seriously when you've 'left' but still are very active on the games forums  :P

 :bolt:
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 27, 2011, 05:10:58 PM


IF YOU WANT TO JUST RACK UP KILLS AND NOT CHECK YOUR BUD'S 6 AND OVERALL HELP THE TEAM........GO TO THE DA!!!
 :old:


The MA caters to all play types, whether those that just like to fight or those like you, that wish to "Win the WAR!™".  There is no need to tell anyone to leave the MA if they don't play like how you want them to play.

ack-ack
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: ink on November 27, 2011, 05:12:20 PM
Back on topic, You have to take it seriously to the point of flying the purpose of the LW Main Arena. The PURPOSE is to take real-estate.

IF YOU WANT TO JUST RACK UP KILLS AND NOT CHECK YOUR BUD'S 6 AND OVERALL HELP THE TEAM........GO TO THE DA!!!
 :old:


ya..ummmm..NOT...the main purpose is COMBAT.
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: Tyrannis on November 27, 2011, 05:36:42 PM
The main purpose of this game is to shoot someone down so bad they come on the Forum to whine about it. Once you've had a whine-thread created about your flying, then you know you've hit the big-time.
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: BaldEagl on November 27, 2011, 05:57:45 PM
Oops... wrong thread.
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: Changeup on November 27, 2011, 06:02:50 PM

Ever since Air Warriors, I have always flown "FOR" the "TEAM" i was on.

Team?  Well, this place is just like any sport, NO ONE plays for the name on the front of the jersey...they all play for the name on the back.  Don't believe me?  Read JUGgler's signature....
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: flakmgc on November 28, 2011, 04:06:23 PM
Obviously it "caters" to all flying types. Anyone can go in there... The MA will never be as to what I think it should. It is VERY cliquey. You're telling me that the MA is just a place to shoot other's down? ....so the feature in that room to take bases is just there and an option right? That makes no sense. Ultimately, you have 2 groups: One that flies to just kill. And the other, various cliques, that roam to take fields.
You can disagree with me, that's fine. That's why there's a forum in the 1st place...to debate and discuss. I fully believe that because there are these 2 split groups in the MA, that room will NEVER reach its full potential.

What's the DA for then?
It is a game, but if you're going to play it, do it in the room that caters your style at the moment.

I hope you see all you 'nay-sayers' soon in your silk.
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: Shuffler on November 28, 2011, 05:21:00 PM
I got shot down the other night and called 911...... well my wife did as I fell on the floor trying to push the stick to the left...... got my foot tangled in the cord to the pedals and was trying to get back to see the screen before I crashed to the ground.



The dogs sometimes look at me strangely.


Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: Lusche on November 28, 2011, 05:26:12 PM
Ultimately, you have 2 groups: One that flies to just kill. And the other, various cliques, that roam to take fields.

If you want to divide players that strictly into groups, you forgot a 3rd one: Those that fly to fight (that's something different then "fly to kill", which I would probably belong to).

But the majority of players are not part of any distinct group. Being fighters, killers or base grabbers at times, according to their mood and to opportunity. And sometimes all of it at once ;)
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: Guppy35 on November 28, 2011, 06:13:46 PM
Back on topic, You have to take it seriously to the point of flying the purpose of the LW Main Arena. The PURPOSE is to take real-estate.

IF YOU WANT TO JUST RACK UP KILLS AND NOT CHECK YOUR BUD'S 6 AND OVERALL HELP THE TEAM........GO TO THE DA!!!
 :old:


Let me guess.  You feel right at home in the horde and can't fly your way out of a dogfight to save your cartoon life?
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: kilo2 on November 28, 2011, 06:16:50 PM
Let me guess.  You feel right at home in the horde and can't fly your way out of a dogfight to save your cartoon life?

Well he has a point if you were truly all about the fight you would be one v one in the DA all day, or furball lake to get your furball fix.
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: Guppy35 on November 28, 2011, 06:51:57 PM
Well he has a point if you were truly all about the fight you would be one v one in the DA all day, or furball lake to get your furball fix.

LOL Kilo if I said it's all about the war, you'd find reason to say something in reply. 

Have you spent time in the DA at Furball lake?  Totally different crowd.   I find that the MA is where the folks I've flown with and against since the Airwarrior days, tend to hang out.  Could be that's the 'community' I enjoy.  And it could be that the MA is where all kinds of things can occur, not just winning the war, furballing, GVing etc.

I tend to get a bit tired of the usual response from the guys who generally have been here for only a short time, telling folks that if they want to fight 'go to the DA". 
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: kilo2 on November 28, 2011, 07:04:02 PM
LOL Kilo if I said it's all about the war, you'd find reason to say something in reply.  

Have you spent time in the DA at Furball lake?  Totally different crowd.   I find that the MA is where the folks I've flown with and against since the Airwarrior days, tend to hang out.  Could be that's the 'community' I enjoy.  And it could be that the MA is where all kinds of things can occur, not just winning the war, furballing, GVing etc.

I tend to get a bit tired of the usual response from the guys who generally have been here for only a short time, telling folks that if they want to fight 'go to the DA".  

It is the obvious answer to solve many "it's all about the fight" crowds problems. Really your response is proof that at least for you it is not all about the fight. You are correct if you said it is all about the war I would argue because I believe its about both. We are just on different sides of the fence on most things I guess.

I tend to get tired of vets posting the same complaints year after year.
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: W7LPNRICK on November 29, 2011, 12:11:17 AM
Sometimes I like to do Squad Missions, but if it involves a fighter or Bomber I don't like I'll go look for another fight. Sometimes I get really irritated at the Rooks. I've always been a rook, but some days we just lay their and take it.  :devil We don't seem to be able to get organized if our lives depended on it. Then here comes a mass # horde w/ dozens of Bombers & fighter escorts. Do I log off and blame people for not playing my way, NOPE! I leave that Horde-Fest and go find a smaller fight that appeals to me more & let them have the base...why? CUZ I DON'T CARE!!! & You can"t make me care, so get over it. I will never do what you want on a consistent basis. I've worked very stressful jobs in my life and come here to ratchet down a notch or three. :noid I play this game they way I want, every day, every minute. Sometime I Ho, sometimes I don't. Sometimes if enough of us are defending from a horde, & I feel like it, I'll stick around, and then congratulate everyone for the nice "Save". Next time I might not feel like it...so? Like it's been said 1000 times, "It's MY $14.95"... & most days, I like everyone I meet here, even the squeakers, and those guys that miss the sheep so badly.... :x :salute It is what it is.... :old:   
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: Guppy35 on November 29, 2011, 12:27:19 AM
Sometimes I like to do Squad Missions, but if it involves a fighter or Bomber I don't like I'll go look for another fight. Sometimes I get really irritated at the Rooks. I've always been a rook, but some days we just lay their and take it.  :devil We don't seem to be able to get organized if our lives depended on it. Then here comes a mass # horde w/ dozens of Bombers & fighter escorts. Do I log off and blame people for not playing my way, NOPE! I leave that Horde-Fest and go find a smaller fight that appeals to me more & let them have the base...why? CUZ I DON'T CARE!!! & You can"t make me care, so get over it. I will never do what you want on a consistent basis. I've worked very stressful jobs in my life and come here to ratchet down a notch or three. :noid I play this game they way I want, every day, every minute. Sometime I Ho, sometimes I don't. Sometimes if enough of us are defending from a horde, & I feel like it, I'll stick around, and then congratulate everyone for the nice "Save". Next time I might not feel like it...so? Like it's been said 1000 times, "It's MY $14.95"... & most days, I like everyone I meet here, even the squeakers, and those guys that miss the sheep so badly.... :x :salute It is what it is.... :old:   

It's interesting but your logic for not caring, is my logic for caring about how I play. 

It makes no sense to me to not think about it as we all come at it from different angles.  I'm not a GV guy, but it doesn't seem to much to ask for the GV guys to have tank town not get over run on the map.  Imagine the guy who enjoys tanking to wind down a couple times a week.  It's mindless fun, and maybe he gets a two hour shot after the kids are to bed, the honey-do list is done, the bills are paid, etc.  He logs on and tank town is one color as the horde has over run it 'because they can".

55 other bases to take and just to muck it up they overun tank town.  The cry comes back 'if you want it that bad defend it!"   Well considering this guy gets a few hours a week to enjoy the game, and while it was being over run, he was finishing up his real life stuff, how could he have done that? 

Seems like that applies to all parts of the game.  The guy who griefs a decent furball and kills the hangers 'just because he can", when it serves no other purpose other then to ruin the fun for others is only thinking about his 'fun'. 

Because it's a game, and because we all pay our 15 bucks a month I don't think it's asking too much of folks to at least think about what they are doing.  Will I hop into a mission.  Doubt it.  Will I up to defend a base.  Absolutely.  That's my contribution to the 'team' folks scream about.

Do I expect no to get picked in a furball?  Nope.  It will happen.  Will I ask before I dive in if I see a 1 v 1 going on away from the furball?  You bet.  What can it hurt.  If the guy wants help I will, but if he wants me to stay out I will too.  It doesn't cost me anything to do that.

I don't get nearly the time to fly that I did in the past.  So my 'flying time" is used to look for a fight, say hello to the folks I know and have some fun.  Obviously there are folks who have a lot more time to spend on the game.  Seems like because of that, they could be even more aware of how their game play impacts on the fun of all.

It should be enjoyable for everyone, because we are coming here to relax, have fun and get away from the real world.
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: SAJ73 on November 29, 2011, 01:28:29 AM
I don't take the game itself seriously like getting sleepless over not winning the war or not getting enough perks.
But I take it seriously when it comes to respecting other players, and doing my part to make this community a place to have fun and trying my best to make it fun for others aswell. By giving my enemies as good fight as I can, and my friends help whenever they ask for it.  :salute
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: Shuffler on November 29, 2011, 10:25:32 AM
It is the obvious answer to solve many "it's all about the fight" crowds problems. Really your response is proof that at least for you it is not all about the fight. You are correct if you said it is all about the war I would argue because I believe its about both. We are just on different sides of the fence on most things I guess.

I tend to get tired of vets posting the same complaints year after year.

Tired of the complaints but you hunt them out and thrive on them then complain yourself....... very interesting.
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: Slate on November 29, 2011, 10:52:55 AM
  War is a serious matter........

(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t221/The_Drawer/Clown_Pie_Band_Of_Brothers.gif)

 No clowning around!  :banana:
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: Changeup on November 29, 2011, 10:55:05 AM
Seems like that applies to all parts of the game.  The guy who griefs a decent furball and kills the hangers 'just because he can", when it serves no other purpose other then to ruin the fun for others is only thinking about his 'fun'. 

Careful...there is already a thread about this and this seems to be the dominant opinion.  You might get flamed...just sayin

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,323833.360.html
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: kilo2 on November 29, 2011, 02:14:40 PM
Tired of the complaints but you hunt them out and thrive on them then complain yourself....... very interesting.

Yeah.
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: uptown on November 29, 2011, 02:47:58 PM
  War is a serious matter........

(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t221/The_Drawer/Clown_Pie_Band_Of_Brothers.gif)

 No clowning around!  :banana:
:rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: bortas1 on November 30, 2011, 11:55:25 AM
  War is a serious matter........

(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t221/The_Drawer/Clown_Pie_Band_Of_Brothers.gif)

 No clowning around!  :banana:
:salute thats too funny
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: WYOKIDIII on November 30, 2011, 04:16:10 PM
Clown on Nazi Run-by pieing....now i can die . :rock :cheers:
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: JOACH1M on November 30, 2011, 04:23:08 PM
  War is a serious matter........

(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t221/The_Drawer/Clown_Pie_Band_Of_Brothers.gif)

 No clowning around!  :banana:
:rofl
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: W7LPNRICK on November 30, 2011, 05:48:19 PM
It's interesting but your logic for not caring, is my logic for caring about how I play. 

It makes no sense to me to not think about it as we all come at it from different angles.  I'm not a GV guy, but it doesn't seem to much to ask for the GV guys to have tank town not get over run on the map.  Imagine the guy who enjoys tanking to wind down a couple times a week.  It's mindless fun, and maybe he gets a two hour shot after the kids are to bed, the honey-do list is done, the bills are paid, etc.  He logs on and tank town is one color as the horde has over run it 'because they can".

55 other bases to take and just to muck it up they overun tank town.  The cry comes back 'if you want it that bad defend it!"   Well considering this guy gets a few hours a week to enjoy the game, and while it was being over run, he was finishing up his real life stuff, how could he have done that? 

Seems like that applies to all parts of the game.  The guy who griefs a decent furball and kills the hangers 'just because he can", when it serves no other purpose other then to ruin the fun for others is only thinking about his 'fun'. 

Because it's a game, and because we all pay our 15 bucks a month I don't think it's asking too much of folks to at least think about what they are doing.  Will I hop into a mission.  Doubt it.  Will I up to defend a base.  Absolutely.  That's my contribution to the 'team' folks scream about.

Do I expect no to get picked in a furball?  Nope.  It will happen.  Will I ask before I dive in if I see a 1 v 1 going on away from the furball?  You bet.  What can it hurt.  If the guy wants help I will, but if he wants me to stay out I will too.  It doesn't cost me anything to do that.

I don't get nearly the time to fly that I did in the past.  So my 'flying time" is used to look for a fight, say hello to the folks I know and have some fun.  Obviously there are folks who have a lot more time to spend on the game.  Seems like because of that, they could be even more aware of how their game play impacts on the fun of all.

It should be enjoyable for everyone, because we are coming here to relax, have fun and get away from the real world.

Mostly well put, but way too many people scream & pitch a fit 'cause "Life Ain't Fare & Someone has to fix it!" mentality is totally defeatist. Honestly, that's the part I don't & won't care about no matter who says it or how many times they whine. You just have to find the fun in it, somewhere, somehow, or log-off and find something else. Life will never try to find a way to satisfy you or me. We have to find it ourselves...not necessarily here.
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: Guppy35 on November 30, 2011, 05:59:29 PM
Mostly well put, but way too many people scream & pitch a fit 'cause "Life Ain't Fare & Someone has to fix it!" mentality is totally defeatist. Honestly, that's the part I don't & won't care about no matter who says it or how many times they whine. You just have to find the fun in it, somewhere, somehow, or log-off and find something else. Life will never try to find a way to satisfy you or me. We have to find it ourselves...not necessarily here.

Life, or the game is still about how I approach it though.  It still comes down to making a choice.  Do you take into consideration those around you, or say the heck with them, it's all about me?

I don't believe that I'm the center of the universe.  I believe I have some responsibility to those around me too.

I don't expect that the game is going to be 'fixed'.  Do I hope that the people playing it learn how to act better?  Absolutely.
Title: Re: Seriously?
Post by: W7LPNRICK on December 03, 2011, 09:00:17 PM
No delusions here either, but if tonight, I want to play my way, then so be it. Nobody's gonna die over it. Cartoon blood doesn't count.  :salute