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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: M0nkey_Man on December 01, 2011, 06:44:31 PM
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45,000 told to evacuate town before bomb was defused: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/11/30/142970011/45-000-told-to-evacuate-german-town-before-wwii-bomb-disposal?sc=fb&cc=fp
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And there will be many more all over Germany.
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And there will be many more all over Germany.
ya, just trying to imagine how many mines cover Europe and other areas around the world is pretty hard
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ya, just trying to imagine how many mines cover Europe and other areas around the world is pretty hard
More then we want to believe.
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Just why do they feel the need to evac that many people for a bomb that they can blow in place if necessary? I know its big but geez its not like it isn't going to blow out windows and stuff if the thing goes off anyway; plus they probably need that channel cleared out of the Rhine so the barge traffic can flow easier.
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Just why do they feel the need to evac that many people for a bomb that they can blow in place if necessary? I know its big but geez its not like it isn't going to blow out windows and stuff if the thing goes off anyway; plus they probably need that channel cleared out of the Rhine so the barge traffic can flow easier.
The rule by thumb is, when they defuse a bomb, 1m for every kg, so they evacuate 1800m for the 1800kg of that bomb.
You forget about the pressure wave from the explosion? Then there is the shrapnel and debris from damaged buildings that will be flying through the air.
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The rule by thumb is, when they defuse a bomb, 1m for every kg, so they evacuate 1800m for the 1800kg of that bomb.
You forget about the pressure wave from the explosion? Then there is the shrapnel and debris from damaged buildings that will be flying through the air.
The most dangerous after effect of the blast would be lawyers.
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The German government have the RAF's recon photo's of bomb drops to evaluate when construction sites are being considered :old:
The photographs show big craters for exploded bombs and little holes where bombs have not detonated :old:
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I didn't forget about the over pressure at all. If they detonate in place in the water then the effects will be minimized since the bomb is partially covered with mud and only covered by 16 inches of water. Sure it will not be minimized by much but come on moving 45,000 people out of town for one bomb is ridiculous.
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I absolutely agree that it's ridiculous ; but I also agree that it was by far the safest course of action to take.
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45,000 people out of town for one bomb is ridiculous.
Safety first, nothing worth to risk here.
That bomb is hughe, sitting there for 60+ years, and what a thriller job
the guys now have to defuse this monster! incredible.
My safety Zone would be minimum 2km! when they start defusing.
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its a 4,000lb cookie:
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/57106000/jpg/_57106522_013443924-1.jpg)
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Maybe they're worried about other unknown, unexploded bombs in the surrounding area.
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job just started...
there is also a 250lb US-Bomb AN-M57 right next to the British 4000,lb Monster
and a "Nebelfass" fog barrel? with hazardous chemicals they have to take care.
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its a 4,000lb cookie:
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/57106000/jpg/_57106522_013443924-1.jpg)
:eek: That could take out a neighborhood block
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:eek: That could take out a neighborhood block
yup, its a cannister bomb not a GP/SAP bomb. that means just enough metal to stop it falling apart on the way down, all the rest is torpex :uhoh
edit: they were known as blockbusters for just that reason, I'm pretty sure thats where the term comes from. the blast overpressure from the cookies would lift floors and roofs so buildings collapsed. the next wave of lancs would drop massive numbers of incendiaries to torch the exposed buildings. nasty but effective.
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its a 4,000lb cookie:
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/57106000/jpg/_57106522_013443924-1.jpg)
:bolt:
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ya, just trying to imagine how many mines cover Europe and other areas around the world is pretty hard
Alright chaps, time to get your knives out and prod the dirt for mines.
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yup, its a cannister bomb not a GP/SAP bomb. that means just enough metal to stop it falling apart on the way down, all the rest is torpex :uhoh
edit: they were known as blockbusters for just that reason, I'm pretty sure thats where the term comes from. the blast overpressure from the cookies would lift floors and roofs so buildings collapsed. the next wave of lancs would drop massive numbers of incendiaries to torch the exposed buildings. nasty but effective.
I recall reading about those in my book about lancasters, imagine if that was a grand slam bomb :uhoh 4,000 pounds to that bomb as apposed to 12,000 pounds of ground removing power! :O
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I have spent a lot of time with UXO's, everything from an SA-7 that I uncovered with a motor grader, to untold amount of mortars that we ran over with vibratory rollers. Mortars were so common it got to the point we would move them out of our way so we didn't have to stop the job for the 4 hours it took for EOD get there, and pick the thing up and throw it in the back of the truck. A lot of old Russian Anti personel mines again very common. One of the biggest was an old rather large welcome package left behind from the good old USA left for us lowly subcontractors to find 2 years after the invasion of Iraq. All that said UXO's don't bother me a bit, but something that big, that old, and that unstable, I can promise that I do believe that I would be somewhere on vacation, in some non extradition country in South America, but that is where I usually go on vacation.
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I recall reading about those in my book about lancasters, imagine if that was a grand slam bomb :uhoh 4,000 pounds to that bomb as apposed to 12,000 pounds of ground removing power! :O
Grand Slam bombs were 22,000lb with 9408lb of Torpex.
The 12,000lb Tall Boy had 5348lb of Torpex.
Now if you really want to :uhoh try the 12000lb High Capacity bomb > 9549lb of Torpex.
http://www.wwiiequipment.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&id=43:bombs&Itemid=60&layout=default
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Grand Slam bombs were 22,000lb with 9408lb of Torpex.
The 12,000lb Tall Boy had 5348lb of Torpex.
Now if you really want to :uhoh try the 12000lb High Capacity bomb > 9549lb of Torpex.
http://www.wwiiequipment.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&id=43:bombs&Itemid=60&layout=default
my bad got those mixed up, but still even more :eek:
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This is no joke if it goes up, and the area is densely populated.
A couple of years ago, some 2 x 1000 pounders were discovered in the sea just outside Reykjavik, Iceland. There were anti-sub bombs, loaded with torpex.
A whole street along the sea-side was evacuated, while the coast guard blew them up. It went without harm, but made quite a show!