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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Wanker on April 10, 2000, 10:27:00 AM
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Has there been a ruling on this from HTC? Are there going to be drop tanks available for the Typhoon in the next patch?
Someone please find a pic with the Typhoon equipped with drop tanks and post it here.
Thanks,
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banana
308 (Polish) Squadron RAF "City of Cracow"
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Another pilot mentioned this as well. He says he has photos of two different sizes of drop tanks on the Typhoon but no scanner.
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No mention of DT's on this thread: http://www.nova.org/~sol/core/deanfile/SHIP0028.HTM (http://www.nova.org/~sol/core/deanfile/SHIP0028.HTM)
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I think Typhoons had DT. If you look at the "Typhoon and Tempest aces of WW2" by Osprey in profiles section, you'll see some planes equiped with the underwing DT (at least those things look like DT). But problem is that underwing DT means no rocket/bomb loadout that can be carried...
mx22
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This happened to me when I flew the Typhoon
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Damn autotanks switching that's what happened to me - flying a Tyff, minding my own business when the needle suddenly hit zero! I was about to start whining (HT was on) but then it switched to another tank (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif).
But seriously:
D. Mondey's Concise Guide to British Aircraft of WWII has pictures of Tempest Vs with underwing DTs. It also says that in order to increase range Hawker had to enlarge fuselage fuel tank in Tempest to compensate for loss of wing tanks (thinner wing than Typhoon) - maybe Tyff had adequate range without DTs?
Scrap that - Jane's All of the World Aircraft 1945, p.46c:
"The Typhoon can also be fitted with racks to carry two 500lbs or two 1000 lb bombs one under each wing. Alternatively, auxiliary drop fuel tanks each of 45 gallons capacity may be fitted to increase the range."
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-lynx-
13 Sqn RAF
[This message has been edited by -lynx- (edited 04-10-2000).]
[This message has been edited by -lynx- (edited 04-10-2000).]
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I posted about the drop tanks.
I said I had heard they could carry 45 or 90 imp gal tanks, but I only have 1 picture.
It shows armourers putting a tank onto a typhoon. The tank appears to be connected directly under the inboard cannon, and there are 2 rockets as well, the first of them directly under the outer cannon.
The rounded front of the tank sticks out in front of the wing, and the rear of the tank seems to be a bit ahead of the back of the wing, so overall it seems the tank is as long as the wing is broad. I dion't know what capacity that is.
When I posted this Hitech or somebody from HTC said that the tanks should be included soon, but there was no answer when I asked if we could have tanks and rockets together.
In case anyone has the book, it is called
Aviation An Illustarted History by Christopher Chant.
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I think that Typhoon should get DT so I can finally do some real deep strike missions (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) But then, if you can have DT, but no bombs or rockets, Typhoon becomes pretty much useless - 4 20mm canons are good, but if you take DT that means you are about to fly a long mission and it won't be tank busting. So we need DT AND ability to carry some external ordinance, or we don't need DT at all.
mx22
[This message has been edited by mx22 (edited 04-10-2000).]
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Found some info in some books I have. Forgive my ignorance but what variant of Typhoon do we have?
"The Illustrated Directory of Fighting Aircraft of World War II" (ISBN 1-84065-092-3) Page 50 states in the perfromance chart that range with bombs was510 miles and with drop tanks 980 miles.
"Aircraft of World War II" (ISBN 1-84084-329-2) Pages 166 & 167 has details on the Typhoon Mk 1a and Mk 1b, the Mk 1a has no reference for it regarding drop tanks but the Mk 1b has its maximum range with drop tanks as 980 miles.
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Revvin
213 Squadron RAF "Ceylon"
Tangmere Wing Detachment
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I used a scanner from a friend. I am sorry that the picture is bad quality. It was my first scan ever.
(http://imagehost.auctionwatch.com/bin/imageserver.x/0007a8a6/walrus1/typhoon2.jpg)
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<Punt>
Looks like the evidence is bullet-proof, eh Pyro?
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Thanks Walrus!
Pyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yrooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooo!
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Revvin, we have a late-production Mk. Ib
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Punt!!!
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That appears to be a 44 gallon Hurricane droptank. It is rounded at both ends.
There was also another type of 45 gallon tank used on the Typhoon/Tempest, which had a teardrop profile.
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Ripsnort:
that link you provided http://www.nova.org/~sol/core/deanfile/SHIP0028.HTM (http://www.nova.org/~sol/core/deanfile/SHIP0028.HTM)
...says the typhoon carried:
18*launch rails, 4*20mm autocannons w/1200rds, Typical external
ordnance load=18 12cm rockets
LOL! can you imagine the typhoon with 1200rds of 20mm and 18 rockets?!!!
oh my, you thought f4u1c could spray, if this is true (which I doubt) you would see a lot more typhoons flying and spraying around than f4u1c's.
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looking into drop tanks, will post more later...
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Citibria: I believe that's 1200 rounds total, or 300 per gun. Not a bad loadout, nontheless. Now, was that 18 separate launch rails? I'd love to have that many rockets (with my marksmanship with rockets, I need that many just hit anything (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)).
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Sabre, a.k.a. Rojo
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<Punt>
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Thx Superfly!
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Pyro says "No." Sorry guys! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
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John "SUPERFLY" Guytan - Art Director
HiTech Creations
"Happiness is a warm gun momma" - The Beatles
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Huh? You mean no for 1.03 or no as in "never"?
How can you say no to photographic proof?
Say it ain't so, Pyro!
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For the first time in my AH career, I've been forced to crack open an aviation book from my childhood. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Ahem, according to Combat Aircraft of the World by John W.R. Taylor (1969 G.P. Putnam's & Sons, page 391):
Typhoon Mk IB
Max speed: 412mph
At Height: 19,000ft
Service Ceiling: 35,200 ft
Combat range(miles): 980 with drop tanks!!!!
[This message has been edited by banana (edited 06-13-2000).]
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Not this version, or at least very unlikely to make it.
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Doug "Pyro" Balmos
HiTech Creations
Most plans are just inaccurate predictions.
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But eventually yes? You have to rework the .ord types for the Typhoon I guess, seperating the rocket and bomb/DT pylons?
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No problem, 1.03 has got some kick-ass features and I'm glad you guys are spending time on those. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Whew! Ok, thanks for the clarification. As long as they eventually make it into the game at some point. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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<Punt>!
1.04? Yes?
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Ok, I've asked this before, and I'll ask it again:
What the F^@% does "Punt" mean?
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Its just a way to kick ("Punt") the topic to the top of the board.
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Just thought I'd throw in my two pennies and provide another un-necessary reference as an excuse to punt:
British Aircraft of World War Two, Chancellor Press, quote: "Range with internal fuel 460 miles; range with maximum internal and external fuel 970 miles"
Personally, I'm looking forward to the Lancaster (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Regards
TC