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Title: Mini-joystick
Post by: TWC_Jaxx on December 09, 2011, 03:43:46 PM
I'm traveling for work a lot these days and trying to get my "mobile" rig set up to fly from the hotel room (yes my life is boring).  Does anyone know of a decent mini-joystick out there that would be good for shoving in a small suitcase?  My throttle can fit okay, but the CH joystick takes up too much room to pack for each trip... and pedals... forget it..   :confused:

Thanks!
Jaxx
Title: Re: Mini-joystick
Post by: FLS on December 09, 2011, 03:58:38 PM
The Thrustmaster Warthog detaches from it's base.
Title: Re: Mini-joystick
Post by: GNucks on December 09, 2011, 04:12:57 PM
The Saitek Cyborg can have its stick removed from the base, I've no experience with that stick so I don't know if it's a good purchase or not.

The Logitech Extreme 3D Pro is very slim and I know of several people who use it, I have one as well and it's pretty good. It's much stiffer than most other sticks though, probably more than a CH, I've never used a CH though.

My personal choice before I moved onto the X52 Pro was the Thrustmaster T-Flight (not the HOTAS). I liked it a lot and used it for a long time, an excellent stick imo, especially for being in the $30 range. It's a bit bulkier than the Logitech, but the knob on the bottom allows you to adjust the stiffness and the form is very ergonomic.
Title: Re: Mini-joystick
Post by: bj229r on December 09, 2011, 05:18:00 PM
I did that deal for 6 years...killed a joy stick every 4 months, like clockwork
Title: Re: Mini-joystick
Post by: The Fugitive on December 09, 2011, 06:29:12 PM
I was on the road for a couple years and this is the stick I used.

http://www.amazon.com/Saitek-Aviator-Throttle-Joystick-PS33/dp/B000I62PEK

Worked well, has throttle and a decent number of buttons and is a twisty stick.
Title: Re: Mini-joystick
Post by: sizzle22 on December 09, 2011, 08:40:57 PM
I'm gonna agree with the fugitive.... AV8R was my first stick and for the money very good, now as far as traveling with it I have no input.  :D
Title: Re: Mini-joystick
Post by: olds442 on December 10, 2011, 09:32:39 AM
The Saitek Cyborg can have its stick removed from the base, I've no experience with that stick so I don't know if it's a good purchase or not.

The Logitech Extreme 3D Pro is very slim and I know of several people who use it, I have one as well and it's pretty good. It's much stiffer than most other sticks though, probably more than a CH, I've never used a CH though.

My personal choice before I moved onto the X52 Pro was the Thrustmaster T-Flight (not the HOTAS). I liked it a lot and used it for a long time, an excellent stick imo, especially for being in the $30 range. It's a bit bulkier than the Logitech, but the knob on the bottom allows you to adjust the stiffness and the form is very ergonomic.
cyborg is a really nice stick, i love it only problem being that every 5 months you need a new one becuase it starts twicthing to much to even get off the ground, let alone trying to use auto pilot. i like the logitec 3d pro good stick last a long time and feels nice, only mine broke when our new puppy chewed the cord. right now im useing a m510 wireless simi gaming mouse. very good feel works wounders in aces high. so for traveling i say get a gaming mouse. im saving up for a CH stick peddels and throttle, luckly my freind gave me the peddels to his old stick. so like i said if you can fly with a mouse its best for traveling.
Title: Re: Mini-joystick
Post by: pervert on December 11, 2011, 08:08:31 AM
This might sound dumb but why not get a bigger suitcase?
Title: Re: Mini-joystick
Post by: TWC_Jaxx on December 11, 2011, 09:37:59 AM
Hahahah.. very good question, Perv... answer is that I dont like to check my bag, so I'm restricted to size.  Saves me a ton of time at both ends and my trips are typically only 1 or 2 nights.

I definitely considered the Warthog with the removalble stick and wow factor.  Problem is no twisty rudder.  The Saitek sounds like a pretty good option.. I'm gonna try flying mouse with CH throttle first, though...

Thanks for all the feedback!!
Title: Re: Mini-joystick
Post by: The Fugitive on December 11, 2011, 09:43:21 AM
Hahahah.. very good question, Perv... answer is that I dont like to check my bag, so I'm restricted to size.  Saves me a ton of time at both ends and my trips are typically only 1 or 2 nights.

I definitely considered the Warthog with the removalble stick and wow factor.  Problem is no twisty rudder.  The Saitek sounds like a pretty good option.. I'm gonna try flying mouse with CH throttle first, though...

Thanks for all the feedback!!


Ya I was going to say "You don't fly much do you Perv!"  :D

Jaxx, $30 for an Aviator ....even if you don't like it and throw it away, is better than flying with a mouse. I have all CH stuff but switching to the Aviator while on the road wasn't bad. Switching to a mouse is going to be horrible and take all the fun out of the game.
Title: Re: Mini-joystick
Post by: STEELE on December 11, 2011, 06:22:40 PM
I just read the amazon reviews, 5 of 10 people say half the buttons dont work on PC and the dual throttle is fake!    Is this true??? I was justy about to get one from Fry's
Title: Re: Mini-joystick
Post by: The Fugitive on December 11, 2011, 07:53:47 PM
everything worked on mine. Maybe the xbox generation doesn't know how to set-up a joystick in a game?
Title: Re: Mini-joystick
Post by: prono on December 12, 2011, 03:14:09 PM
How about a gamepad with gyroscope-like support. My friend uses something like this in his PS3 as driving wheel. You can setup gyro as X-Y axis + two analogue mini joysticks for rudder-zoom and view + 10 programmable buttons.
Better yet leave mini joysticks for flying and use gyro sensors for looking around  :x
I always wanted to try it in AH  :joystick:
Title: Re: Mini-joystick
Post by: nrshida on December 12, 2011, 08:19:29 PM
I once thought about buying and old, unwanted and therefore cheap 4 channel transmitter off eBay, adding a hat switch and buttons for trigger and flaps etc. on the back, removing the circuit board and replacing it with a Leo Bodnar 12-bit controller. You'd have good precision, plenty of buttons and analogue controls & the whole thing would be small and suitcase friendly. Some of the nicer transmitters even have removable sticks for easy packing  :banana:


Title: Re: Mini-joystick
Post by: 2ADoc on December 18, 2011, 11:21:00 AM
I traveled with an X-52 for years in Iraq, it fit in my bugout bag with plenty of room for 2 pair of levi's, 3 undershirts, and 2 over-shirts, along with all my other overnight crap.  Put your throttle in right side up, wrap your socks around the throttle, then put your wrap your, clean underwear around your JS and put in upside down over your throttle, put a pair of levi's in to pad in-between your joystick pack and your laptop.  Socks can be added into the voids, and then pack as normal.  This setup is great it gives you enough padding that if you do get caught off guard and you vehicle does get flipped by a VBIED it will protect your joystick and your computer.  One must have his priorities.
Title: Re: Mini-joystick
Post by: STEELE on December 24, 2011, 02:38:33 AM
Thx Fugi, I'm havin the lady get me an Aviator for xmas   :salute
Title: Re: Mini-joystick
Post by: flatiron1 on December 24, 2011, 07:04:35 AM
mouse
Title: Re: Mini-joystick
Post by: The Fugitive on December 24, 2011, 09:16:06 AM
Thx Fugi, I'm havin the lady get me an Aviator for xmas   :salute

Good luck, I hope you have as much fun with yours as I did mine!
Title: Re: Mini-joystick
Post by: morfiend on December 24, 2011, 04:08:21 PM
Hahahah.. very good question, Perv... answer is that I dont like to check my bag, so I'm restricted to size.  Saves me a ton of time at both ends and my trips are typically only 1 or 2 nights.

I definitely considered the Warthog with the removalble stick and wow factor.  Problem is no twisty rudder.  The Saitek sounds like a pretty good option.. I'm gonna try flying mouse with CH throttle first, though...

Thanks for all the feedback!!



  If weight is an issue the the warthog may not be the best choice,thing weighs 20 plus pounds!

    Any of the less expensive saitek sticks would do,the x52 would be nice but with 2 pieces it might be abit bulky.The Aviator or ST290 should work for you and you can always wrap your socks and clean undies around the handle to save room. :joystick:




    :salute
Title: Re: Mini-joystick
Post by: TWC_Jaxx on January 04, 2012, 03:26:24 PM
I found a Cyborg FLY stick for cheap at Best Buy.  The stick handle comes off and the base folds up, so it's definitely compact.  Only problem is that the hat button isnt working so I have to exchange it.  Otherwise, I think it could work.  Gotta get used to the jerky feel of that stick compared to the CH, though. 

Title: Re: Mini-joystick
Post by: morfiend on January 04, 2012, 05:15:04 PM
Jaxx,


  you might want to setup 1 of the modes,say mode 3 or 4 and setup a program for that stick only. This will allow you to adjust the deadpan and dampening as well as the sliders and not disrupt your settings for the CH stick.

   You might be able to smooth out some of the jerkiness with some experimentation. Remember though,you'll have to switch modes manually or the game will select mode 1 by default.  Goto controls,mapkeys and map a button to switch modes then uncheck automode select on the clipboard.


   Hope this helps.



     :salute
Title: Re: Mini-joystick
Post by: TWC_Jaxx on January 16, 2012, 01:38:18 PM
Thanks Morfiend.  Since I'm using the Cyborg only on my lap top and my CH on my home computer, it works out nicely to set up normal profiles. 

Had my first "road" session last week and while it's not as comfy as my home setup it worked just fine. 
Title: Re: Mini-joystick
Post by: morfiend on January 16, 2012, 03:04:47 PM
 Great to hear! :aok









   :salute