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Title: bird repellent
Post by: CAP1 on December 10, 2011, 12:19:33 PM
  namely for european starlings. they're nesting in the building where my shop is. they crap on everything. although they're pests/vermin, i'd rather not kill them, but i'm tired of having to wash bird poop off of customers cars before i give it back.

 so.......what effective non-lethal ways are there to get rid of these things? i've heard that playing sounds of them in distress will confuse and scare these things off, but not wanting to spend a couple hundred bucks on the ones on the market. i also can't seem to find sound clips.

 anyone got any advice, before i start spreading poison around the building and parking lot for them?
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: skorpion on December 10, 2011, 12:33:15 PM
If you want to, and are willing to take on a bunch of pissed off birds, try to get rid of the nest itself.

Bird Spikes work good as well for such problems.

http://www.nixalite.com/BirdSpikes.aspx?gclid=CObh7PGR-KwCFdIAQAod4BtJUQ
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: Tordon22 on December 10, 2011, 12:33:38 PM
Birds hate microwaves. Get a radar gun and pwn them.
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: uptown on December 10, 2011, 12:36:43 PM
install a plastic owl on the roof.

http://www.gemplers.com/product/RD300/Horned-Owl-Decoy
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: colmbo on December 10, 2011, 01:31:51 PM
Plastic owls are a waste in my experience....targeted bird ends up using the "owl" as a roost. <G>

Can you block the entrances the birds use to get into the building?  some chickenwire or something?

An eagle cost me $500 bucks this spring -- he took the prop off my masthead anemometer.

We should of made the turkey the national symbol, then we could shoot eagles.   :devil
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: CAP1 on December 10, 2011, 01:53:20 PM
Plastic owls are a waste in my experience....targeted bird ends up using the "owl" as a roost. <G>

Can you block the entrances the birds use to get into the building?  some chickenwire or something?

An eagle cost me $500 bucks this spring -- he took the prop off my masthead anemometer.

We should of made the turkey the national symbol, then we could shoot eagles.   :devil

 it'd be pretty hard for me to get up there. besides, there's enough nooks and crannys on top of the roof, that they'd just move up there. that's why i'm trying to find somethign to chase em away.

 i'm honestly not totally averse to killing them, but i'd rather not have to do that. i just want em to go away. if i have to kill a few dozen of em to make that happen, then i will. i've read about a poison that kills them slowly, so that the affected birds cry in agony. this cry scares the rest away, and once they're broken of that habit, then it's settled. but once again......i don't like the idea of killing anything slowly.

 if it were as simple as the noises, i could load the proper sounds on a usb stick, and either play them through my computer, or leave the windows down on my car, and play those sounds through the cars stereo.

 i figured we've got a very large, very knowledgeable community here, and for something like this it's a good place to start.
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: mbailey on December 10, 2011, 02:32:56 PM
it'd be pretty hard for me to get up there. besides, there's enough nooks and crannys on top of the roof, that they'd just move up there. that's why i'm trying to find somethign to chase em away.

 i'm honestly not totally averse to killing them, but i'd rather not have to do that. i just want em to go away. if i have to kill a few dozen of em to make that happen, then i will.  


Kill one and stake it to the roof as an example of what will happen to the rest if they dont leave     :D

I actually plan on doing this with my little girls first boyfriend, Ill let you know how it works
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: CAP1 on December 10, 2011, 02:43:08 PM
Kill one and stake it to the roof as an example of what will happen to the rest if they dont leave     :D

I actually plan on doing this with my little girls first boyfriend, Ill let you know how it works


uuummmm...........    :noid :noid :noid :neener:
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: colmbo on December 10, 2011, 02:57:27 PM
Kill one and stake it to the roof as an example of what will happen to the rest if they dont leave     :D

That works for seagulls.  On the seaplane lake here there is a LARGE population of birds -- there have been many birdstrikes.  We were trying to keep the gulls from nesting, an officer assigned to Gull Island in the lake breaking eggs, using noisemakers, and even killing them with shotguns.  We left some of the carcasses hanging on sticks -- the gulls started to get scarce.  However we were right across the channel from an officer building, some bird lovers took offense and that was the end of that!!

Next trip was to put a couple of hogs on the island.  They spend the summer eating gull eggs then were butchered in the fall.    :D
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: mbailey on December 10, 2011, 03:07:46 PM
That works for seagulls.  On the seaplane lake here there is a LARGE population of birds -- there have been many birdstrikes.  We were trying to keep the gulls from nesting, an officer assigned to Gull Island in the lake breaking eggs, using noisemakers, and even killing them with shotguns.  We left some of the carcasses hanging on sticks -- the gulls started to get scarce.  However we were right across the channel from an officer building, some bird lovers took offense and that was the end of that!!

Next trip was to put a couple of hogs on the island.  They spend the summer eating gull eggs then were butchered in the fall.    :D

uuummmm...........    :noid :noid :noid :neener:

See CAP, and you thought i was crazy  :lol


Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: mtnman on December 10, 2011, 03:26:39 PM
You can try these methods-

http://www1.agric.gov.ab.ca/$department/deptdocs.nsf/all/agdex729

Otherwise I do have a starling distress call recording- http://www.4shared.com/audio/QDjM3B1U/Starling_distress.html


Welcome to the world of invasive species.  For the most part, they're here to stay and control of them isn't easy.
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: MiloMorai on December 10, 2011, 04:08:31 PM
Come on CAP, the truth is they are telling you what they think of your Mushtang by adding pokadots to it. :devil
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: Dago on December 10, 2011, 04:17:10 PM
Daisy Red Ryder
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: CAP1 on December 10, 2011, 04:29:31 PM
Come on CAP, the truth is they are telling you what they think of your Mushtang by adding pokadots to it. :devil

 ACTually, it's my jeep as far as my personal cars go. i park the stang out where they don't go in the parking lot. there's a toyota with a blown engine that's been setting there for 2 months, with not a drop on it. i park the stang right there. my jeep on the other hand is covered.

 yesterday i had to wash off a box truck that is one of a fleet of 4 that this HVAC guy brings to me. they had the hood and windshield covered. same with a guys lexus sc430.

 i really can't have this happening to customers cars. it's a waste of my time, waste of water, and worst of all, if a customer sees it, they sure as hell aren't going to appreciate it.
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: CAP1 on December 10, 2011, 04:31:08 PM
Daisy Red Ryder

 i got an old bb gun at home....but i can see me making more damage than anything. i do have a paintball gun. what's the legality of me getting pepperballs for it? they'd prolly work.......
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: skorpion on December 10, 2011, 04:59:40 PM
i got an old bb gun at home....but i can see me making more damage than anything. i do have a paintball gun. what's the legality of me getting pepperballs for it? they'd prolly work.......
you can just freeze the paintballs.
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: mbailey on December 10, 2011, 05:02:28 PM
you can just freeze the paintballs.

Then its a .50 or .68cal BB, i think he was concerned about doing damage to things
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: mbailey on December 10, 2011, 05:05:45 PM
I got it

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac82/mbailey166066/clay.jpg)
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: Seanaldinho on December 10, 2011, 05:07:24 PM
i got an old bb gun at home....but i can see me making more damage than anything. i do have a paintball gun. what's the legality of me getting pepperballs for it? they'd prolly work.......

The downside to that is when and if you miss you might end up cleaning just as many cars of paint splatters. Remember that paintball guns are not exactly accurate unless you mod them. It also depends on what kind of marker (gun) you have. FYI the average speed for a paintball is somewhere around 200 FPS. You can tune that higher or lower as well.
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: F22RaptorDude on December 10, 2011, 05:10:39 PM
Man I searched for systems that get rid of em, cheapest way might be to just kill them, and I leave that method at your discretion
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: F22RaptorDude on December 10, 2011, 05:11:32 PM
The downside to that is when and if you miss you might end up cleaning just as many cars of paint splatters. Remember that paintball guns are not exactly accurate unless you mod them. It also depends on what kind of marker (gun) you have. FYI the average speed for a paintball is somewhere around 200 FPS. You can tune that higher or lower as well.
Wouldn't it be better to use a BB gun? more accuracy meaning your more likely to not miss and get paint splattered on someones car or window?
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: Seanaldinho on December 10, 2011, 05:26:58 PM
Wouldn't it be better to use a BB gun? more accuracy meaning your more likely to not miss and get paint splattered on someones car or window?

Pretty sure thats what I said?  :headscratch:
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: CAP1 on December 10, 2011, 05:28:13 PM
you can just freeze the paintballs.

 the idea with the pepperballs wasn't so much to actually shoot the birds with them, but shoot them up into the areas they nest. i'm sure the lingering pepper will deter them somewhat.........it's like i said...if i have to start poisoning them, i will....but i'd really rather not. i'd rather just chase em away.......
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: CAP1 on December 10, 2011, 05:29:52 PM
I got it

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac82/mbailey166066/clay.jpg)

lol   :rofl :rofl


 hey chief!! i blew the entire wall off, but those suckers won't be nesting here anymore!!  :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: allaire on December 10, 2011, 07:22:02 PM
Make sure that it is legal to disturb the nests before you mess with them.  I had a problem with barn swallows when I first moved in to my apartment and thank god I checked the net before I disturbed the nest.  Turns out it's illegal in AR to disturb a swallow nest that has eggs in it.
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: Golfer on December 10, 2011, 07:54:29 PM
Take the eggs out and then disturb it.
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: CAP1 on December 10, 2011, 07:54:58 PM
Make sure that it is legal to disturb the nests before you mess with them.  I had a problem with barn swallows when I first moved in to my apartment and thank god I checked the net before I disturbed the nest.  Turns out it's illegal in AR to disturb a swallow nest that has eggs in it.

 these things are considered pests/vermin nearly country wide. i shouldn't have too much trouble.
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: CAP1 on December 10, 2011, 07:57:28 PM
Take the eggs out and then disturb it.

 check pm's dood........
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: chaser on December 10, 2011, 10:50:53 PM
What about an airsoft gun? Wouldn't kill them and you wouldn't have to worry about hurting any cars. I would think after you shot 'em enough times with an airsoft they wouldn't come back.

I have a full auto that cranks out 75 bb's in less than a minute. That would be perfect for shooting into a hoarde of birds with.
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: Curval on December 11, 2011, 05:51:36 AM
Beretta 12 guage over/under:

(http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa409/Christopher_Morris/PA240437.jpg)
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: icepac on December 11, 2011, 08:32:45 AM
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Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: fbEagle on December 11, 2011, 09:16:52 AM
try the airsoft gun. but if that doesnt work you can always get one of theese for ur shop.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3144/3029306444_69139e7b16_o.jpg)
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: CAP1 on December 11, 2011, 06:03:13 PM
You can try these methods-

http://www1.agric.gov.ab.ca/$department/deptdocs.nsf/all/agdex729

Otherwise I do have a starling distress call recording- http://www.4shared.com/audio/QDjM3B1U/Starling_distress.html


Welcome to the world of invasive species.  For the most part, they're here to stay and control of them isn't easy.

 thanks dood!! i'll try that before doing anything to harm them....if it doesn't work, then i go for the harming methods.....
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: Meatwad on December 11, 2011, 06:55:36 PM
Take a long piece of PVC and see if you can poke the nests down with it soon as they start building.

Maybe try one of them ultrasonic things you plug into the wall. If it dont work, try this....

(http://www.homelandsecuritynewswire.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/standard/TitanICBM1-1.jpg)
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: Melvin on December 11, 2011, 07:08:11 PM
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Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: SPKmes on December 11, 2011, 07:16:22 PM
just get a few toy snakes ....  Not sure if you have a snake problem where you are or not so put them where the birds will see them but not your customers...or you after a late night where you forget you have planted them around....
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: Widewing on December 11, 2011, 07:50:17 PM
i got an old bb gun at home....but i can see me making more damage than anything. i do have a paintball gun. what's the legality of me getting pepperballs for it? they'd prolly work.......

Pepper doesn't bother birds. You can buy powdered capsicum pepper to mix into bird seed to keep squirrels away. The pepper doesn't bother the birds.
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: CAP1 on December 11, 2011, 08:15:36 PM
Pepper doesn't bother birds. You can buy powdered capsicum pepper to mix into bird seed to keep squirrels away. The pepper doesn't bother the birds.

 this i didn't know.


 
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: eagl on December 11, 2011, 09:00:35 PM
Beretta 12 guage over/under:

(http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa409/Christopher_Morris/PA240437.jpg)

Umm...  You know you got 2 pigeons and a squirrel in there, right?
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: CAP1 on December 11, 2011, 09:06:17 PM
(http://cineplex.media.baselineresearch.com/images/312162/312162_large.jpg)

 when did the cylons create their own version of owls?  :noid
Title: Re: bird repellent
Post by: 4Prop on December 11, 2011, 11:09:11 PM
pour vinegar wherever you see them go. or wherever the nest is. also try spraying the nest with weed killer and an engine cleaner mixed.
vinegar should hurt their lungs when they breath it in. if it doesnt the weed killer and engine cleaner will start opening flesh wounds and infecting them. I've gotten rid of 3 nests by doing that.

I'm not sure if this is even an option by pour gasoline where they preside and cover the exits pretty good. gas fumes work wonders, especcialy on hornet nests. be carefull to make sure if its in an open area not to have any sparks or anything that could potencially start a fire.

Back in NC when birds are a problem the 20 gauge is usualy my first choice, but since your probably in an urban area its not. try picking up a 30$ co2 pistol from walmart or somthing and wait on em to fly in