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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: M0nkey_Man on December 21, 2011, 03:19:36 PM
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Well, im getting one for Christmas. My question right now is how am I going to get all this cosmoline off of it?
I'm pretty sure some of yall have had to deal with it and I was hoping for some tips on getting rid of this crap.
:salute
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I usually just clean it off real good with solvent and finish cleaning gun. then I go shoot it and clean it again. :salute
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WD-40 penetrates it and makes it a lot easier to clean it off. You have to let it sit on there for awhile though.
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what about the barrel? If it is coated on the inside, what is the best way to get that out?
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When I bought my Nagant, I just used Hoppes 9 and cleaned everything like I do after a day of shooting, with a little more attention to nooks and crannies. It really wasn't very hard to clean up.
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DO NOT USE WD-40!!! Firearms are not car parts, rusty bolts, or stuck pieces of farm machinery. It is corrosive and it will eat whatever finish is left on your Mosin Nagant. Trust me.
Your best bet is to use an actual gun cleaner/degreaser. Some people will use a brake cleaner, but if you do make sure you clean it well. Then, I highly recommend "Break-Free" brand CLP for everything there on out. The military guys will know what I am talking about. This stuff is awesome and it does it all (cleans, lubes, preserves). I use it on all my firearms and have done so since about 1996.
Never use grease of any sort. A light coat of oil (CLP) is all you'll ever need.
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what about the barrel? If it is coated on the inside, what is the best way to get that out?
Run a few patches of oil through it, use a nylon brush if need be.
Be mindful of much of the military surplus ammo out there, it is corrosive. There are a few websites out there dealing specifically with the Nagant, I suggest you visit them and learn as much as you can about the surplus ammo and any other tid-bits you can. ENJOY!
Also, FWIW, any care you give it will be more than what it is used to. ;)
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Be careful of the wood, WD-40 can dry it out, and cause it to crack over time. I would use CLP on it, and then use tounge oil on the wood.
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A good problem to have! Cleaning a new Milsurp.
In addition to hoppes and elbow grease you might consider breaking it down to its component parts and boiling the small parts (screws, springs, magazine, etc..) to get all the cosmo out. Just be sure to get them dry and re-oiled directly.
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Saw them online today for just over a 100 bucks from a dealer.
Use CLP (Break Free)
:cheers: Oz
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I've used Kerosene, mineral spirits and Remington gun cleaner to remove cosmoline from metal. You can break down the rifle, removing the barrel and receiver from the stock and place it in an oven set at 250 degrees. This melts the cosmoline and it mostly runs off.
I know people who washed the stock in their dishwasher with good results....
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Prepare for a severe case of mosinitis.... There is an interesting electric barrel cleaner you can make at home to clean the nasties out of your barrel. I have never made one but it looks like it works fairly well from tutorials I have seen elsewhere.
http://www.mausercentral.com/gunsmithtips.htm
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I've used Kerosene, mineral spirits and Remington gun cleaner to remove cosmoline from metal. You can break down the rifle, removing the barrel and receiver from the stock and place it in an oven set at 250 degrees. This melts the cosmoline and it mostly runs off.
I know people who washed the stock in their dishwasher with good results....
already got my mineral spirits ready :D, spent 2 hours today researching different things on how to clean it.
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I love my mosins. I recently discovered my 91/30 is a finnish capture and bares the [SA] mark. I'm considering getting a bolt mod and scoping it with a repro PU scope.
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Avoid WD-40. Good ol Hoppes will work. If you don't completely disassemble it, at least take the bolt completely apart to clean.
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Avoid WD-40. Good ol Hoppes will work. If you don't completely disassemble it, at least take the bolt completely apart to clean.
dont worry, im taking everything apart
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in the army we used Varsol and if we dident have that we used spray oven cleaner like easyoff works great.
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already got my mineral spirits ready :D, spent 2 hours today researching different things on how to clean it.
you actually studied for two hours? Surely this was in 10 minute increments ;)
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NEVER use WD-40 on a weapon. Bad things man bad things.
I sell FrogLube and have sold a 4 gallons of the stuff to some guys who bought a crate of Mosins like that. They used a blueing tank with a heater on it and disassembled the weapons then stuck them in the blueing tank for about 4 hours and they came out smelling minty fresh with almost no cosmoline left in the wood but with ZERO on the metal parts at all.
You may never get 100% of the cosmoline out of the stock. The one I have was cleaned with gas and hot water after going in the oven for a long time and it still gets cosmoline coming out of it after a long spirited session on the firing line.
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I use the mineral spirits method for cosmoline even on the wood.
Here is a tip for long life with the surplus corrosive ammo. Clean the gun with a water based gun solvent. The corrosive stuff is a salt and regular peto based solvent won't get rid of it. You can also rinse the metal parts in boiling water. I use a tea kettle with the parts suspended from a wire outside. This flushes the dirty solvent away and heats the metal so it dries before it can rust. Lube with a good gun oil, preferably while the metal is still warm. Leave plenty of lube in the bore then just run a dry patch before you go shooting again.
This also works with black powder guns as well.
Reschke knows about good gun products too.
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Great advice from Reschke and Maverick. Hey Reschke, whatever happened to that free sample? :)
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I honestly forgot...been slammed. Send me another PM with your address and I will drop it into the mail tomorrow.
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Thanks for all the advice everyone :aok
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finished it and got to shoot it yesterday. leaves a pretty big hole in the target :O
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finished it and got to shoot it yesterday. leaves a pretty big hole in the target :O
More or less the same size hole as the .30-06, 7.5 French, 8mm Mauser, 7.7 Jap, .303 British, and 7.65 Belgian. :D
Now, if the holes are not round-ish and instead long and not uniform in shape, then you've got problems. That is called "key-holing" and your bullets are tumbling in the flight, which in turns means you've got problems in the barrel, which in turns means you should stop firing that rifle immediately and get it to a legit gunsmith who can scope the bore.
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The military way= Purple 145 works best, no smoking now, lol!
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finished it and got to shoot it yesterday. leaves a pretty big hole in the target :O
Not nearly as large as my .58 cal Springfield...... ;)
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More or less the same size hole as the .30-06, 7.5 French, 8mm Mauser, 7.7 Jap, .303 British, and 7.65 Belgian. :D
Now, if the holes are not round-ish and instead long and not uniform in shape, then you've got problems. That is called "key-holing" and your bullets are tumbling in the flight, which in turns means you've got problems in the barrel, which in turns means you should stop firing that rifle immediately and get it to a legit gunsmith who can scope the bore.
I said it because the only thing we could compare it to was the micro .22 holes we had :lol
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Not nearly as large as my .58 cal Springfield...... ;)
Or my Charleville Muskets .69 cal! :D
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Buying a mosin soon. There's a hard stain finish on the wood. I'd like to redo it but stain the stock something different. Anyone else ever do something like that?
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after bringing it out the second time, im actually making progress with my aim. I think using some support would help but i just love shooting offhand :cry
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Dime/Washer exercise. Get a person to place a dime or washer at tip of barrel,
practice trigger squeeze (dry fire, of course).
Use good ole US Army Training Acronym- BRAS
B reathe
R elax
A im
S queeze
I tought BRM (Basic Rifle Marksmanship) and everything an Infantryman would learn
or Airforce SP/LE Trainees at Ft. Dix for 4 years at a Joint Service School :)
:cheers: Oz
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Dime/Washer exercise. Get a person to place a dime or washer at tip of barrel,
practice trigger squeeze (dry fire, of course).
Use good ole US Army Training Acronym- BRAS
B reathe
R elax
A im
S queeze
I tought BRM (Basic Rifle Marksmanship) and everything an Infantryman would learn
or Airforce SP/LE Trainees at Ft. Dix for 4 years at a Joint Service School :)
:cheers: Oz
Indeed! The B.R.A.S. system is a fine tool to help teach new shooters the basics of proper aiming. I taught the same thing to new reserve deputy recruits (volunteer deputy sheriff, the new politically correct term for "sheriff's posse"), while teaching the basics of handgun, shotgun, and rifle. Later on, we branched out on the BRAS technique to the "shoot-force beathe-shoot again" concept (forgot the acronym). It is amazing at how many people, under stress, will hold their breath until they are blue in the face.
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Have someone load for you but have them sneak some empty brass casings in the mag. Of course dont watch when you cycle the gun but you will see if you are anticipating the shot and jumping before you fire.
I actually got my mosin last night. First rifle that had ammo that didn't come in a little tin. Love it so far, it's a russian 91/30. Bolt and reciever numbers match and the trigger is perfect. Just took it apart and cleaned the years out of it. The stock gets sanded tomorrow and refinished.