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Title: Found old plane vote from 2000
Post by: prono on December 22, 2011, 08:17:49 AM
I'm impressed how many planes from the old list make it into the game. For me they have been always there.

Heres your chance to pick the ride of your choice. Pyro has asked for imput in the Aircraft & Vehicles section.Your choices are..

P-47M
P-47N
P-51H
Fw 190D-9
Fw 190F-8
Ta 152H-1
Tempest V
Spitfire XIV
F4U-4
La-7
Yak-9UT

This is to try to counter Wardog's LW vote padding.

Sisu
-Karnak
Title: Re: Found old plane vote from 2000
Post by: MAINER on December 22, 2011, 09:38:40 AM
Would not mind having the P-51H  :joystick:
Title: Re: Found old plane vote from 2000
Post by: Lusche on December 22, 2011, 09:49:18 AM
P-47Mtour 117
P-47Ntour 66
P-51Hnot yet
FW 190D-9tour 14
FW 190F-8tour 14
Ta 152Htour 14
Tempesttour 14
Spitfire XIVtour 26
F4U-4tour 21
La-7tour 14
Yak-9Utour 12
Yak-9Ttour 14
Title: Re: Found old plane vote from 2000
Post by: mthrockmor on December 22, 2011, 10:03:31 AM
Forgive this question though I'm on the road. I've never heard of the P-51H. What are the specs and history? I'm primarily a Pony driver. Just wondering if I need to drop my 321BAR style press for the P-61 and shift to this Pony H.

Thanks in advance for any info.

Boo
Title: Re: Found old plane vote from 2000
Post by: Guppy35 on December 22, 2011, 10:49:41 AM
Light weight, never saw combat, version of the Mustang.  Looks a bit different as well.  Doesn't have a place in AH unless we start the 1946 crowds war.
Title: Re: Found old plane vote from 2000
Post by: Babalonian on December 22, 2011, 06:43:18 PM
P-47Mtour 117
P-47Ntour 66
P-51Hnot yet
FW 190D-9tour 14
FW 190F-8tour 14
Ta 152Htour 14
Tempesttour 14
Spitfire XIVtour 26
F4U-4tour 21
La-7tour 14
Yak-9Utour 12
Yak-9Ttour 14


*queries the depository of vast knowledge*

Out of curiosity, what tour was the currently modeled A-8 introduced?
Title: Re: Found old plane vote from 2000
Post by: Raptor05121 on December 22, 2011, 06:45:54 PM
how was the -H in the voting system when its not even eligible?
Title: Re: Found old plane vote from 2000
Post by: Babalonian on December 22, 2011, 06:56:42 PM
how was the -H in the voting system when its not even eligible?

The 2000 vote shortly proceeded the decision from HTCs to only include aircraft that saw combat and unit-sized strength (full production) deployment with combat units.  It hasn't been around as long as Aces High, but it has been around for over a decade.
Title: Re: Found old plane vote from 2000
Post by: Lusche on December 22, 2011, 07:01:29 PM
*queries the depository of vast knowledge*

Out of curiosity, what tour was the currently modeled A-8 introduced?

hmmm  :headscratch:

The A-8 was introduced while Ah was still in Beta (end of 1999), and I think the last update was when AH went 2.0 (actually a bit before that in one of the pre 2.0) betas.
Title: Re: Found old plane vote from 2000
Post by: 321BAR on December 22, 2011, 07:55:24 PM
Forgive this question though I'm on the road. I've never heard of the P-51H. What are the specs and history? I'm primarily a Pony driver. Just wondering if I need to drop my 321BAR style press for the P-61 and shift to this Pony H.

Thanks in advance for any info.

Boo
never gonna get th H sadly. never saw combat
Title: Re: Found old plane vote from 2000
Post by: Volron on December 22, 2011, 08:18:55 PM
What would have happened had the the P-51H won that vote and it made it in?  What would have HiTech done after he decided to do the current inclusion system, simply removed it?
Title: Re: Found old plane vote from 2000
Post by: Raptor05121 on December 22, 2011, 09:31:52 PM
I doubt he would remove something that he spent time/money on.
Title: Re: Found old plane vote from 2000
Post by: Karnak on December 22, 2011, 10:23:04 PM
Because of that list, I do think the P-51H may someday make it in.  It would be highly perked though.
Title: Re: Found old plane vote from 2000
Post by: Raptor05121 on December 22, 2011, 11:37:05 PM
Because of that list, I do think the P-51H may someday make it in.  It would be highly perked though.

how do you think this list makes it able to not be affected by the requirements?

in any case, ENY 2.0 and 20 perks? sounds good.
Title: Re: Found old plane vote from 2000
Post by: Karnak on December 23, 2011, 01:35:53 PM
how do you think this list makes it able to not be affected by the requirements?

in any case, ENY 2.0 and 20 perks? sounds good.
The list was HTC's, not mine, thus I have to assume that they considered it a valid contender.  That may have changed, but it was seen as such at one point.

I'd expect more like ENY 5 and 100 perks.
Title: Re: Found old plane vote from 2000
Post by: Butcher on December 23, 2011, 07:18:45 PM
Because of that list, I do think the P-51H may someday make it in.  It would be highly perked though.

Not likely, probably around a tempest, 5 eny with 50-60 or so perks, speed is its only asset, it would probably be under a tempest in the long run.

Title: Re: Found old plane vote from 2000
Post by: smoe on December 24, 2011, 12:34:31 AM
The H would be perked higher than a 262

The H would only be perked less than Chuck Norris
Title: Re: Found old plane vote from 2000
Post by: MK-84 on December 24, 2011, 03:01:31 PM
Because of that list, I do think the P-51H may someday make it in.  It would be highly perked though.

I'm not sure I understand.  Because it is on that list wouldnt that make it much more likely I would think.
being part of that tells us this:

It was obviously considered at one time
There is sufficient data to actually create it for AH
Title: Re: Found old plane vote from 2000
Post by: Lab Rat 3947 on December 25, 2011, 10:57:08 PM
If the P51H makes it in, then I want a P38K.
It never saw combat either.

I know what some people will say; that there was only one (or was there two?)(AKAK or Widewing would know)   :old:
Title: Re: Found old plane vote from 2000
Post by: 321BAR on December 26, 2011, 12:52:57 PM
If the P51H makes it in, then I want a P38K.
It never saw combat either.

I know what some people will say; that there was only one (or was there two?)(AKAK or Widewing would know)   :old:
:noid :noid :noid
Title: Re: Found old plane vote from 2000
Post by: Butcher on December 26, 2011, 04:27:22 PM
I'm not sure I understand.  Because it is on that list wouldnt that make it much more likely I would think.
being part of that tells us this:

It was obviously considered at one time
There is sufficient data to actually create it for AH

It was considered before HTC decided a criteria requirements before each plane got added into Aces High. Notice we have no 1946 planes in the line up?

P51H was not in operational service, nor did it see combat, I think if I can remember correctly some squadrons were building towards operational service for the invasion of Japan before the war ended, however the war ended and it never seen operational service.

When it comes down to a P51H vs Meteor vote, at least the Meteor might of been shot at (citation needed), however it was in operational service - it just never engaged an enemy plane and only did a very limited number of strafe runs.

If the meteor was added on the list to vote on, then anythings up in the air to be voted on.
Title: Re: Found old plane vote from 2000
Post by: Karnak on December 26, 2011, 04:57:24 PM
Given the Meteor straffed and destroyed, IIRC, over 40 German aircraft it would be hard to believe it didn't get shot at.  Certainly shooting down V1s was dangerous that involved uncomfortable proximity to explosions.  I recall, though cannot find a citation for it, that there was a Meteor vs Fw190 engagement that resulted in no kills before some Spitfires showed up and chased the Meteors off.
Title: Re: Found old plane vote from 2000
Post by: Butcher on December 26, 2011, 08:36:07 PM
Given the Meteor straffed and destroyed, IIRC, over 40 German aircraft it would be hard to believe it didn't get shot at.  Certainly shooting down V1s was dangerous that involved uncomfortable proximity to explosions.  I recall, though cannot find a citation for it, that there was a Meteor vs Fw190 engagement that resulted in no kills before some Spitfires showed up and chased the Meteors off.

Never happened, don't read wikipedia, the meteor never engaged - or was engaged, Brits strictly did not allow Meteors to fly over enemy lines for the reasoning if a plane crashed the Germans (more so the russians) might get ahold of it.

Title: Re: Found old plane vote from 2000
Post by: Karnak on December 26, 2011, 08:37:46 PM
Never happened, don't read wikipedia.
I didn't get that from wikipedia.  Wikipedia didn't exist when I first heard of that.
Title: Re: Found old plane vote from 2000
Post by: Butcher on December 26, 2011, 08:49:24 PM
I didn't get that from wikipedia.  Wikipedia didn't exist when I first heard of that.

Is there any creditable source it made any ground attack runs?
Title: Re: Found old plane vote from 2000
Post by: oakranger on December 28, 2011, 12:01:00 AM
If the P51H makes it in, then I want a P38K.
It never saw combat either.

I know what some people will say; that there was only one (or was there two?)(AKAK or Widewing would know)   :old:

That and the F7F, F8F, 190D-13, B-32
Title: Re: Found old plane vote from 2000
Post by: moot on January 30, 2012, 12:19:05 PM
Tour 14 was such a great release to play.
Title: Re: Found old plane vote from 2000
Post by: lyric1 on January 30, 2012, 04:00:41 PM
Is there any creditable source it made any ground attack runs?
Hmmm  :headscratch: Ahhh Yes.  :banana:

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/mf3-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Found old plane vote from 2000
Post by: Rebel on January 30, 2012, 04:10:53 PM
Well, just to be a picky bastard....The 51-H was in squadron strength, in theater, and flying scouting missions IIRC.  It never encountered the enemy, but it wasn't for lack of trying. 

So, *technically* it flew combat operations, but never saw the enemy. 

However, that being said, not much would be gained by introducing it, as we are missing a TON of a/c that merit introduction a whole lot more.

Hell, the Claude should be introduced before the 51-H.

Loved the look of the thing, though.  More rakish, more aggressive.  Less pretty, more mean. :)

(http://www.soseisberg.com/images/image/Hist%20P-51H-003.jpg)