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Title: Fw190A-8 info req'd
Post by: MiloMorai on December 23, 2011, 03:07:57 PM
OK, I know it is a reeaaalllly log shot but does anyone have the ladeplan for this a/c that they can post?
Title: Re: Fw190A-8 info req'd
Post by: Butcher on December 23, 2011, 07:16:51 PM
OK, I know it is a reeaaalllly log shot but does anyone have the ladeplan for this a/c that they can post?

What exactly are you looking for? I have the ordnance list for pre-production and production as well as "prototypes" that never went into production.
Title: Re: Fw190A-8 info req'd
Post by: MiloMorai on December 23, 2011, 08:19:45 PM
It is the 'weight and balance' info for determining cg of the a/c.
Title: Re: Fw190A-8 info req'd
Post by: pervert on December 23, 2011, 10:59:10 PM
Is this leading to a I demand you change the A8 to uberness thread?  :rofl  :banana:
Title: Re: Fw190A-8 info req'd
Post by: Ruah on December 24, 2011, 12:19:55 AM
ubrness?  naaa its still going to be a heavy plane that does not turn.
but more historically realistic, maby.

but I don't know why he is asking and do not speak on his behalf.
Title: Re: Fw190A-8 info req'd
Post by: Butcher on December 24, 2011, 01:45:55 AM
It is the 'weight and balance' info for determining cg of the a/c.

Good luck finding the answer to this, there is no way in hell I would give my opinion only because no matter
how much research I could do - I couldn't guarantee the information is 100% accurate, especially this.

Best answer I can give you is research yourself and don't quote wikipedia to often.
Title: Re: Fw190A-8 info req'd
Post by: save on December 24, 2011, 02:17:40 AM
much good info to be served, if you take the time to look through AH forums.
Title: Re: Fw190A-8 info req'd
Post by: MiloMorai on December 24, 2011, 09:44:21 AM
Is this leading to a I demand you change the A8 to uberness thread?  :rofl  :banana:

NO!!!! The request has nothing to with AH.

@ save: Not the info requested.
Title: Re: Fw190A-8 info req'd
Post by: pervert on December 24, 2011, 09:56:51 AM
NO!!!! The request has nothing to with AH.

@ save: Not the info requested.

LOL OK!!!!  :banana: :banana: :banana:
Title: Re: Fw190A-8 info req'd
Post by: Megalodon on December 27, 2011, 12:27:52 PM
Milo

not sure if this is what you want, but have a go.

(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/fw190weights.jpg)

and a .pdf with more info.
https://viewer.zoho.com/docs/pd74P (https://viewer.zoho.com/docs/pd74P)

 :salute
Title: Re: Fw190A-8 info req'd
Post by: Scherf on December 27, 2011, 02:27:00 PM
He's after the moments as much as / more than the associated weights. Teacup storm over on another board involving a late and unlamented AH player.
Title: Re: Fw190A-8 info req'd
Post by: SmokinLoon on December 27, 2011, 02:35:47 PM
The 190F-8 is good to go, imo.  The only real thing I wish HTC would do is add the 4/50kg bomb shackle under the fuselage.  It was a legit load out and it saw lots of service on the Ost Front.  That way, it could carry 8/50kg bombs.  It would be unique in that capability (single engine fighter with 8/50kg bombs).

HTC was generous enough to add the option for the Typhoon to carry both DT's and rockets at the same time, I'd hope they'd do the same courtesy for the 190F-8.  :aok
Title: Re: Fw190A-8 info req'd
Post by: MiloMorai on December 27, 2011, 08:28:40 PM
Megalodon, not what I am looking for. Thanks. I have that page.

Yup Scherf, the arrogant and egotistical 'never is wrong' one.
Title: Re: Fw190A-8 info req'd
Post by: morfiend on December 29, 2011, 04:40:35 PM
Megalodon, not what I am looking for. Thanks. I have that page.

Yup Scherf, the arrogant and egotistical 'never is wrong' one.


  you guys have all the fun.......  mind sharing a link???



    :salute
Title: Re: Fw190A-8 info req'd
Post by: Zeagle on December 30, 2011, 07:49:42 AM
J. Richard Smith and Eddie J. Creek have just released volume one of a three volume history on the 190. The first volume does not have what you ask, but I think volume 2 might.
There may even be a fourth volume with nothing but drawings and technical stuff (Which I need for my 3D work).

I would contact one of these two guys and ask them. They are presently the experts on the subject.
Title: Re: Fw190A-8 info req'd
Post by: Babalonian on January 10, 2012, 07:33:04 PM
It is the 'weight and balance' info for determining cg of the a/c.

Hah!   :D 

Good luck (seriously), please pass along anything concrete you find.  It differenciates only as much as there were varieties of A-8 (and don't forget the F-8 mods too).  And, as butcher said, to draw conclusions/opinion from what if anything you do find (100% or not) will be borderline futile as we have no means available to us to verfiy or validate any claims or documentation.


Is this leading to a I demand you change the A8 to uberness thread?  :rofl  :banana:

Do people self-promote themselves or their squad in this game for vaunted pride?   :noid
Title: Re: Fw190A-8 info req'd
Post by: MiloMorai on January 11, 2012, 09:12:05 AM
Someone would make 6 pages of fake Focke-Wulf documents? :O
Title: Re: Fw190A-8 info req'd
Post by: wells on January 11, 2012, 06:01:04 PM
http://www.albentley-drawings.com/fw190a_f_g.htm
Title: Re: Fw190A-8 info req'd
Post by: MiloMorai on January 14, 2012, 11:15:40 AM
This on one of the 6 pages I am looking for.

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3066/pg5r.jpg)
Title: Re: Fw190A-8 info req'd
Post by: Krusty on January 18, 2012, 01:17:09 AM
So... what are we looking at? Kg I assume is the weight of the item... x = distance from the CoG?

I don't understand what G,x(mkg) means.
Title: Re: Fw190A-8 info req'd
Post by: PR3D4TOR on January 18, 2012, 03:28:07 AM
Meter-kilos. A measurement of torque, like foot-pounds.
Title: Re: Fw190A-8 info req'd
Post by: wells on January 18, 2012, 06:40:42 AM
Once you have all the moments, you divide by the total mass and you have a distance from the datum, or reference point.  Since the CG moves, it is not the datum.  The datum is usually a part of the structure somewhere, like a former/bulkhead.  There is usually a forward limit and an aft limit, from the datum, that indicates where the CG can be.  I'd love to see the other 5 pages.  Surely, they must be around somewhere if that one page is uploaded?
Title: Re: Fw190A-8 info req'd
Post by: Krusty on January 18, 2012, 01:06:06 PM
I assume such info, to those who can read and understand it (HTC, for example) would only help refine and improve the modeling of the Fw190A-8 we have in-game?
Title: Re: Fw190A-8 info req'd
Post by: mthrockmor on January 18, 2012, 01:08:09 PM
Holy crap!

I just fly'm, you crunch the numbers.  :banana:

Boo
Title: Re: Fw190A-8 info req'd
Post by: Babalonian on January 18, 2012, 06:25:17 PM
This on one of the 6 pages I am looking for.

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3066/pg5r.jpg)

On which production varient, produced about when, and to what degree and means in comparison to our A-8 modeled varient?

Your turn, smart guy.  Pay attention to what I'm saying please.  And to clarify, incase it was my mistake:

Hah!   :D 

Good luck (seriously), please pass along anything concrete you find.  It differenciates only as much as there were varieties of A-8 (and don't forget the F-8 mods too).  And, as butcher said, to draw conclusions/opinion from what if anything you do find (100% or not) will be borderline futile as we have no means available to us to verfiy or validate any claims or documentation (by us, and in comparison to the one modeled in-game by HTCs). 


Do people self-promote themselves or their squad in this game for vaunted pride?   :noid