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Title: A Glaring Error
Post by: rpm on December 24, 2011, 06:14:36 AM
I just checked the Wikipedia page for Combat flight simulator and here's what it listed:
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World War I by order of appearance:

Red Baron by Sierra Entertainment, 1990
Dawn Patrol by Rowan Software, 1994
Wings of Glory by Origin Systems, 1994
Flying Corps by Empire Interactive, 1996
Red Baron II by Sierra 1997
First Eagles: The Great War 1918 by Third Wire, 2007
Rise of Flight: The First Great Air War by 777 Studios, 2010

World War II:

Fighter Ace
Aces High
Aces of the Pacific (1992) by Dynamix Sierra
Aces Over Europe (1993) by Sierra
1942:Pacific Air War (1994) by Microprose
European Air War by Microprose
B-17 Flying Fortress (computer game) by Microprose/Hasbro
B-17 Flying Fortress: The Mighty 8th
Battle of Britain by Empire Interactive
Fighter Squadron: The Screamin' Demons Over Europe (1999) by Parsoft/Activision
Jane's WWII Fighters (1999) by Jane's Combat Simulations
IL-2 Sturmovik (2001) by 1C Maddox Games
IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 (2007) by 1C Maddox Games
IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover (2011) by 1C Maddox Games
Combat Flight Simulator WWII Europe Series
Combat Flight Simulator 2
Combat Flight Simulator 3: Battle for Europe by Microsoft Games Studio
Battle of Britain II: Wings of Victory (2005) by A2A Simulations

Korean War:

Falcon 4.0 (1998) by MicroProse
MiG Alley (1999) by Rowan Software
Vietnam War
Flight of the Intruder (1991) by Spectrum-Holobyte
Wings Over Vietnam
Where is Air Warrior? Where is Warbirds?
This is why you should never trust Wikipedia.
Title: Re: A Glaring Error
Post by: Gh0stFT on December 24, 2011, 06:26:38 AM
why dont you edit it?
If, then add Simguilds Flying Circus (1997/98) to the WW1 sims too, its missing.
Title: Re: A Glaring Error
Post by: eagl on December 24, 2011, 07:08:52 AM
It's also missing chuck yeager's air combat.  That game had the best post-flight analysis setup EVER.  It's like the AH film viewer but with a 3D box showing just dots for the aircraft, flight path trails you could turn on, off, and reset, ground track so you could see how the horizontal and vertical turn radius affected the flight and see exactly when flight-path overshoots occurred, etc.

AH should have something like that...  After a flight, just click on postflight debrief and pop right into the CYAC style debriefing, with cockpit camera, external rotatable view, and the 3D box view with dots.  Be able to select flight path trails for all, some, or none of the aircraft.  That would be totally awesome.
Title: Re: A Glaring Error
Post by: Rob52240 on December 24, 2011, 07:31:07 AM
Wikipedia is a constant work in progress and everyone knows it's made up of user generated content (much like aces high).

It's your responsibility to edit it, or if you can't edit it because the page is locked then complain about it.  If they won't let you make it right then you should really complain about it.

I tried to edit the BMW page once because it falsely stated that their logo symbolizes a spinning propellor.  Whoever was in charge of that particular debate removed my changes and locked the page.  I don't know if they ever made it right.


The bottom line is that everyone knows that wikipedia cannot be trusted to be the gosphel truth.
Title: Re: A Glaring Error
Post by: clerick on December 24, 2011, 07:35:50 AM
I loved Aces over the Pacifc/Europe!
Title: Re: A Glaring Error
Post by: ozrocker on December 24, 2011, 09:32:01 AM
I don't see Stealth Fighter either.(MicroProse- 1989(?)) for Commodore 64/128


                                                                                                                                  :cheers: Oz
Title: Re: A Glaring Error
Post by: Blooz on December 24, 2011, 10:13:04 AM
Mig Alley Ace

Microprose (circa 1986ish)

Played the heck out of it with buddies on Commodore 64

F15 Strike Eagle too!

How about...wait for it....

(http://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/l/40195-combat-atari-2600-screenshot-biplane-combats.gif)
Atari Biplane Combat The great grand daddy of Aces High!
Title: Re: A Glaring Error
Post by: BERN1 on December 24, 2011, 12:10:44 PM
at first I thought that was a screenshot from WoP
Title: Re: A Glaring Error
Post by: M0nkey_Man on December 24, 2011, 12:12:18 PM
at first I thought that was a screenshot from WoP
:rofl
Title: Re: A Glaring Error
Post by: B-17 on December 24, 2011, 12:33:00 PM
:rofl
Title: Re: A Glaring Error
Post by: APDrone on December 24, 2011, 01:03:58 PM
Missing:
Battlehawks 1942  - Lucasfilms?
Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe - Lucasfilms


Title: Re: A Glaring Error
Post by: B-17 on December 24, 2011, 01:13:16 PM
Heroes over Europe? Ubisoft.
Title: Re: A Glaring Error
Post by: rogwar on December 24, 2011, 01:39:34 PM
constant work in progress

we all are
Title: Re: A Glaring Error
Post by: RTHolmes on December 24, 2011, 02:47:59 PM
I tried to edit the BMW page once because it falsely stated that their logo symbolizes a spinning propellor.

it isnt?
Title: Re: A Glaring Error
Post by: 2bighorn on December 24, 2011, 03:41:34 PM
This is why you should never trust Wikipedia.

And you should never trust reading capabilities of some people.

It clearly says "There are simulators for most modern periods and wars, including the following:"
Title: Re: A Glaring Error
Post by: Dace on December 25, 2011, 09:21:09 AM
Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe - Lucasfilms




My first flight sim....followed by AoE and AoP.
Title: Re: A Glaring Error
Post by: PR3D4TOR on December 25, 2011, 10:40:04 AM
it isnt?

It's disputed. They may have used the propeller story as a marketing tool in the '20s and '30s, but originally its the checkered white/blue Bavarian flag on a roundel.
Title: Re: A Glaring Error
Post by: Mar on December 25, 2011, 03:33:45 PM
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=BMW+logo

Just to settle the case...
Title: Re: A Glaring Error
Post by: guncrasher on December 25, 2011, 03:54:19 PM
I just checked the Wikipedia page for Combat flight simulator and here's what it listed:Where is Air Warrior? Where is Warbirds?
This is why you should never trust Wikipedia.

name one source that is 100% reliable.  what you forget is history is made up of whatever the writer chooses it to be.

you can quote original manuals about ww2 airplanes and then quote pilots saying the manual's were wrong.  when you read wikipedia look at the bottom and you will see a bunch of references that were used to create that article.  it's a work in progress and it will never be 100% accurate, just like none of the others are.


semp
Title: Re: A Glaring Error
Post by: Flipperk on December 25, 2011, 05:04:50 PM
I just checked the Wikipedia page for Combat flight simulator and here's what it listed:Where is Air Warrior? Where is Warbirds?
This is why you should never trust Wikipedia.


As stated before, you are like most politicians...you only read what you want to read... The sentence right before states this:

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Historical

There are simulators for most modern periods and wars, including the following:

Including means just that, including but not limited to.



The fact is that if you want basic information and understanding of a subject, I would point you to wikipedia. Wikipedia is a FANTASTIC source, and wealth, of information that is conveniently stored in one area of the internet.

I bet you 9 times out of 10, when you search for a particular subject you go to Wikipedia first...you want an overview of the subject and, more often than not, wikipedia is pretty spot on with its' articles. If you want more in-depth knowledge on the subject, then it is up to you to choose your own sources.



You have to take Wikipedia with a grain of salt, but the fact is this; Wikipedia is the most up-to-date, accurate forum of information you will find on the internet.
Title: Re: A Glaring Error
Post by: james on December 25, 2011, 07:08:28 PM
Why isn't Aces high listed on SIMHQ.com? Is it because we are a game or because HTC wont let it or SIMHQ doesn't see us as a sim? Does WIKI ever really get looked at as a search engine anyway?
Title: Re: A Glaring Error
Post by: guncrasher on December 25, 2011, 08:49:57 PM
Why isn't Aces high listed on SIMHQ.com? Is it because we are a game or because HTC wont let it or SIMHQ doesn't see us as a sim? Does WIKI ever really get looked at as a search engine anyway?

you may not look at it but millions of people do.  who do you think created those entries?  google?


semp
Title: Re: A Glaring Error
Post by: Rob52240 on December 25, 2011, 10:22:47 PM
It's disputed. They may have used the propeller story as a marketing tool in the '20s and '30s, but originally its the checkered white/blue Bavarian flag on a roundel.

Yeah, it's not a coincidence that the Bavarian Motor Works uses a bavarian flag as their logo. 
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f9/BMW_Logo.svg/300px-BMW_Logo.svg.png)
(http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/370663/370663,1279989008,3/stock-photo-young-thirsty-woman-in-dirndl-holding-oktoberfest-beer-stein-mass-in-background-is-bavarian-flag-57735154.jpg)