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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Tyrannis on December 28, 2011, 03:09:34 PM
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I'd give him a 9/10. Nice form. pretty hard to land her like that. he'd of got a perfect 10 if it was completely sitting on its nose.
:aok
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4/10
Attempting to copy a SAPP landing (poorly). Wrong aircraft and too many parts still on it.
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East Germany gives him a 1. :neener:
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I don't know what you guys are all so negative about. Clearly, that is a perfect 3-point landing.
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4/10
Attempting to copy a SAPP landing (poorly). Wrong aircraft and too many parts still on it.
:rofl :aok
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Wonder what caused that.
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I bet he snagged the arresting wires with his mains.
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I bet he snagged the arresting wires with his mains.
nope. Those wire are only a few inches off the ground maybe 6 at the most... the gear will roll right over it.
He probably had his feet on the brakes.
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4/10
Attempting to copy a SAPP landing (poorly). Wrong aircraft and too many parts still on it.
:rofl
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nope. Those wire are only a few inches off the ground maybe 6 at the most... the gear will roll right over it.
He probably had his feet on the brakes.
Hadn't thought of that, but that's prolly it.
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What would you say at this exact moment if you were the pilot?
"Oh sh**." Is at the top of my list
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What would you say at this exact moment if you were the pilot?
"Oh sh**." Is at the top of my list
For someone to snap a pic so i can upload it to my facebook.
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I think I just found waldo close to that other airplane on the back
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nope. Those wire are only a few inches off the ground maybe 6 at the most... the gear will roll right over it.
He probably had his feet on the brakes.
That's what I first thought but are the brakes on he F4 really that good?
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For someone to snap a pic so i can upload it to my facebook.
I really don't think the pilot is very proud of that landing.
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you know people where killed in that landing...
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you know people where killed in that landing...
Sure do, and it's an amazing photo none the less.
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how does that happen?
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how does that happen?
One page I found says someone hit the breaks on takeoff roll, not sure about that though.
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That's what I first thought but are the brakes on he F4 really that good?
Definitely, but they don't even have to be.
Think about it.
Hes landing, so he is going to be light, relatively speaking and the CG will have definitely shifted forward to some degree. He will be coming in with a relatively high power setting (compared to landing on land where he could be at power idle at touchdown). If he is on the brakes at touchdown, those wheels wont turn over quick enough if at all and it would nose over quite easily i believe.
There is a video on youtube of a stearmen ground looping at DCA airport two summers ago. One of our museum members helped build that aircraft and was flying right behind the guy in his own stearman that flipped as it happened. If you watch the video, as soon as he touches down, its an instant flip of the plane just because of the momentum.
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Well by the designation of the of the aircraft and the other aircraft in that picture the carrier was almost 100% likely to be the CVB-42 FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT in either the south Atlantic cruise Jan.8, 1946 – Mar.19, 1946 or the Med cruise Aug.6, 1946 – Oct.4, 1946. The squadron was the VF-75 "Gay Blades" (Not kidding at all here); and from what it looks like that is a perfect 3 point landing.
10!
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The F4U had notably unforgiving landing characteristics when landing on carriers. There was a tendency to bounce unless the pilot got it completely right and it it stalled very easily, dropping a wing viciously. It looks like this one bounced over the wire. It was particularly bad on early models of the Corsair and the US Navy only flew them off carriers when they were modified. The one in the picture looks like a late war F4U-4.
Even in Aces High, the Corsair will kill you without hesitation, in real life it lived up to it's nickname as the 'Ensign eliminator'.
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4/10
Attempting to copy a SAPP landing (poorly). Wrong aircraft and too many parts still on it.
what he said.
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2/10 improper SAPP aircraft
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nope. Those wire are only a few inches off the ground maybe 6 at the most... the gear will roll right over it.
He probably had his feet on the brakes.
Nope. Hit the barrier.
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Hes landing, so he is going to be light, relatively speaking and the CG will have definitely shifted forward to some degree. He will be coming in with a relatively high power setting (compared to landing on land where he could be at power idle at touchdown). If he is on the brakes at touchdown, those wheels wont turn over quick enough if at all and it would nose over quite easily i believe.
Well, at the "cut" he pulls the power to idle so there goes the high power setting theory.
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Well, you know what they say : a good landing is one you walk away from. A great landing is one you can reuse the aircraft after. That was a good landing all in all :D
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That prop has definately wound up some of the barrier and the scratches seem to indicate sliding from the right to the left.
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One page I found says someone hit the breaks on takeoff roll, not sure about that though.
With the nose gear as low down and as far forward as it is on the Liberator, I wouldn't think so.
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With the nose gear as low down and as far forward as it is on the Liberator, I wouldn't think so.
As I recall reading about that they were riding the brakes on takeoff which led to them driving off the end of the runway. The B-24 has a weak nosewheel so hitting soft soil, a ditch or obstruction would cause it to fail, when it fails the airplane nose tended to "tuck under". A gear up landing was not something you wanted to do on a B-24. So, if someone were riding the brakes I can understand how the accident in the photo could happen.
What I can't understand is how someone could ride the brakes without knowing it. The rudder pedals in the B-24 are huge. The toe brake pedals are also large in size and to get your toes/foot on them to actuate the brake you have to get your foot very high on the pedal -- it's really not a comfortable position -- I'm surprised someone could do that inadvertently.
What could happen is if you improperly set the parking brake so that it only partially applies brake pressure it would be possible to attempt the takeoff with the parking brake set. The B-24 is a bit of a pig on takeoff, wouldn't take much extra drag to make a takeoff unlikely.
Luckily for me when I forgot the parking brake it was set properly -- when I released the toe brakes the airplane just sat there with the engines roaring. Oops!!
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Well, here's my attempt.
I couldn't get it to sit on the nose either.
But I gave it my best shot.
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Haha I took this SS on Christmas. I find it funny because they kinda match. xD :lol
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Well here's the winner in my book.
I'll give him a 10
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