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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: ebfd11 on January 01, 2012, 01:21:57 PM
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Well I posted this in the pigs forum, so I thought I would share it here. I was looking at the OC website at the case mods and I spotted one that I liked, False Bottom.
This is what I started out with...
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h360/lawndart7051/Picture3.jpg)
Wires everywhere and looking a little sad
Well here comes the stripdown
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h360/lawndart7051/Rig%20Rebuild/100_0716.jpg)
I left the power supply in it to get a good feel for what I needed to do.
I was trying to think of how to make the False bottom, I was originally going to use some type of wood but couldn't figure how I was going to assemble it. My woodworking skills suck. So I happen to find an old E-Machine case and saw it was just what the doctor ordered so I grabbed the trusty little Dremmel tool and whacked some off.
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h360/lawndart7051/Rig%20Rebuild/100_0717.jpg)
Doing a test fit... Yes the PSU is in there.
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h360/lawndart7051/Rig%20Rebuild/100_0718.jpg)
Here I did a test fit with the MB in place. I also removed the large HD bay and used the smaller one. I also figured I would move the pump for my water cooling, to a more hidden location.
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h360/lawndart7051/Rig%20Rebuild/100_0720.jpg)
Well break down again and here comes the PAINT!!!
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h360/lawndart7051/Rig%20Rebuild/100_0723.jpg)
close up you can see the sparklies I put in the before the clear was put on.
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h360/lawndart7051/Rig%20Rebuild/100_0725.jpg)
More to come...
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Well here is everything I needed to have paint put on it..bad part is ...I ran short on paint :eek:
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h360/lawndart7051/Rig%20Rebuild/100_0726.jpg)
The following day I made a trip to the hardware store and bought some more and finished it up.
REBUILD TIME
I finally got all the paint on it and started putting it back together.
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h360/lawndart7051/Rig%20Rebuild/100_0732.jpg)
OK put back together and running a leak test on it...(so far so good) All unnecessary wires are neatly stored under the "False Bottom' instead of behind the MB.
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h360/lawndart7051/Rig%20Rebuild/100_0735.jpg)
Lit up
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h360/lawndart7051/Rig%20Rebuild/100_0736.jpg)
I did this all on a 35 dollar budget, and it was split between paint and cutting tools for the dremmel.
I am happy with it for now... I just want to get some white tygon tubing and I will be finished till I get paid by Uncle Sam.
LawnDart
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and now I want to paint the inside of my case... that blue you used looks like the blue I used on mine :lol :aok.
blue shell, blue lights and 5 green lights in a row on my board inside I don't have any idea what color I would do...
and the false bottome over the PSU and moving the small HDD cage adds a nice touch. how did you hold down the false bottom though? unless you mount some sort of restraint on the case or the false bottom I feel it would be moving around inside when you move the case to do work on it.
and painting the inside would give me an excuse to really re-work my wires. Fan controller died on me recently (i actually shorted out the 4 pin molex on it :uhoh) so my wires are running off my board hookups.
speaking of fan controllers. Anyone know of a reliable fan controller that would fit in the 5.5" bay? room isnt much of an issue, I have space for 4 CD/DVD/Blue ray's.
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speaking of fan controllers. Anyone know of a reliable fan controller that would fit in the 5.5" bay? room isnt much of an issue, I have space for 4 CD/DVD/Blue ray's.
this is what i have. had it for about 2 years no problems.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811992005
this one is nice too
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811992004
semp
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this is what i have. had it for about 2 years no problems.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811992005
this one is nice too
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811992004
semp
how many fans does the Sentry 2 control? and how much of a PITA is to install?
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it controls 5. and if you get a y splitter, more than 5. it's not hard to connect, but if I was you I would remove the molex connections and just use the 4/3 pin connectors or just electrical tape. just make sure you dont cut the wire from the ps to the controller.
use lots of zip ties to hide the wires :).
semp
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it controls 5. and if you get a y splitter, more than 5. it's not hard to connect, but if I was you I would remove the molex connections and just use the 4/3 pin connectors or just electrical tape. just make sure you dont cut the wire from the ps to the controller.
use lots of zip ties to hide the wires :).
semp
zip ties are easy to get between school and the dollar store :lol
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There is no ventilation for the PSU. Even if there was a fan in front of the PSU, it is rendered null and void by the excess wiring.
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There is no ventilation for the PSU. Even if there was a fan in front of the PSU, it is rendered null and void by the excess wiring.
Was my concern as well.
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it looks like the PSU fan points downward and the case has holes cut in the bottom for ventilation
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it looks like the PSU fan points downward and the case has holes cut in the bottom for ventilation
For air flow there needs to be some holes cut in the false bottom as well. Then I wonder how much heat will build in the wiring itself.
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it looks like the PSU fan points downward and the case has holes cut in the bottom for ventilation
Heat buildup is the last thing you want with a PSU, regardless of a fan on the bottom. That is only trapping heat in a smaller area.
Also, a modular PSU would have been more of what the Doctor ordered and you could have removed the reservoir from the outside. You'd merely hide the 5-6 wires on the back of the Motherboard tray.
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I thought of all the scenarios. I cut the bottom so there would be no restrictions to air flow, here you can see the holes in the side of the MB tray to allow air flow in they are not covered up with the piece I cut.
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h360/lawndart7051/Rig%20Rebuild/100_0716.jpg)
Also not all the wires are stuffed in there, I neatly packaged them and I think there is maybe 4 total I did not use in there.. Lot of space still and plenty of airflow.
it looks like the PSU fan points downward and the case has holes cut in the bottom for ventilation
That is true and it has been setup like this for the whole time I had it installed, no problems for a year that it was installed.
As soon as my camera recharges I will be posting a close up pic so you can see what I am talking about.
This is the PSU I have..
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/08/10/pc_power_cooling_silencer_mkii_950w_psu_review
LawnDart
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But there is still nowhere for the heat to go. I know that the PSU has a fan up top. But you are restricting airflow to the PSU which just doesn't seem to be a good solution.
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My power supply is inverted, it pulls air from the bottom where there is a good 3/4" between the PSU and the case and below there is a vent made specifically, with 3/4 inch more. Then the air flow is diverted out the back. That is one of the features of this PSU and combined with this case it works great.
Here is a pic of what i am talking about
(http://www.nzxt.com/new/images/_upload/product_gallery/DSC_0571.jpg)
LawnDart
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how much does your cooling system cost approximately Lawn? and how about a parts list thats needed for a basic setup? Thinking on doing a couple things to my case, such as painting my interior silver and maybe putting on a window in place of that monster fan and the mesh on it.
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If you are looking at doing a window for the left side .... they make one already ..
http://store.nzxt.com/product_p/pa%20phan%20wi.htm
As for the water cooling I have the Swiftech H20-220 water kit.
http://www.amazon.com/Swiftech-H20-220-Ultima-HD-cooling/dp/B000BMILZI
Everything is included and easy to install. The only thing I changed was the reservoir I had, I got this instead..
http://www.xoxide.com/frozenq-liquidfusionvseries160mmreservoir-red.html
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What chipset is the CPU cooler for? and what are you getting for temps?
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I have the i5 2600k and I am getting temps around 30* Celsius. The cooler is good for the 1155 and 1156 chipsets, and the 775 if I remember.
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alright, thank you. i didnt look at the exact specs of the tubing, and dont have time. how much tubing does it with approx? and whats the inner and outer diamters of it? gonna have to get a seperate cooler for the cpu (1366 socket).
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That cooling is for the cpu.
Semp
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I have a 1366 socket, that CPU plate is gonna fit the holes in my board, correct?
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it says it fits all current intel processors. but doesnt give a list.
I have this cooler while it uses air still keeps my cpu around 50 even at full speed. at idle around 35.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835242001
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103060
semp
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For a while I Was looking at that cooler, but then I did my research on water cooling, and if done right it looks more aesthetically pleasing. on top of extra performance that is.
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performance as in will make your puter run faster? no, unless you live in some really hot place with no ac. but it does look cool :D.
semp
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You really spend alot of time looking at the inside of your box?
Nuth'n personal I just never understood the whole window to the inside of the case.
I care that ti works and works well. Moreso tha tthe layout and components are functional rather then how aesthetically pleasing they look.
My case sits under my desk when 90% of the time I never even look at the front let alone the inside.
And if i were to set it up so I could see in sinde of itat a glance even. It would be in the way. Or I'd have to put it in such a place that I'd much rather store something else.
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It's kindda like being single and yet everyday you put on some cool underwear. it doesnt really help you the way you look but it does make you feel better.
semp
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It's kindda like being single and yet everyday you put on some cool underwear. it doesnt really help you the way you look but it does make you feel better.
semp
:lol
by performance I meant temps. although, I coulda said that instead :lol
one other question, when I do the watercooling (if I do) would I have any reason to keep excess fans on my system? may be a stupid question, but it's one of those questions I debate over.
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The water cooling only helps your cpu. Fans are needed to blow air out of due to rest of components. Your gpu produces a lot of heat.
Semp
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The water cooling only helps your cpu. Fans are needed to blow air out of due to rest of components. Your gpu produces a lot of heat.
Semp
Unless you water cool also your gpu and ram and harddrives.
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And after all is water cooled, it wouldn't harm to have an extra slow and silent big fan blowing musty air out, letting fresh air in. At least it could help preventing dust bunnies to nest inside your computer.
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Unless you water cool also your gpu and ram and harddrives.
In time I want to GPU, that would only restrict me to HDD and RAM needing air coolng after that, if i do water cooling.
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In time I want to GPU, that would only restrict me to HDD and RAM needing air coolng after that, if i do water cooling.
the question you should be asking yourself is is it worth the money? other than looking cool and it does look very cool in lawn's puter it's not really an improvement over mine. then again if I could I would probably get it :). as for doing it on the gpu might as well buy one that comes with water cooling, might be cheaper :).
semp
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the question you should be asking yourself is is it worth the money? other than looking cool and it does look very cool in lawn's puter it's not really an improvement over mine. then again if I could I would probably get it :). as for doing it on the gpu might as well buy one that comes with water cooling, might be cheaper :).
semp
all questions I have been asking myself. but with a brand new video card, there is no sense in buying a new.
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If this is your primary game....Watercooling is a waste of money.
I guess I don't see the point of the false bottom and never will.
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If this is your primary game....Watercooling is a waste of money.
I guess I don't see the point of the false bottom and never will.
It's for looks :)
People don't seem to get that if something is built to look 'neat' for marketing purposes, it doesn't necessarily mean it's any good for your system. I also never understood what's the point of painting and tweaking the inside of your computer case that's going to sit under the desk and never get opened after assembling it :)
Perhaps it's some juvenile thing, to show off to friends? I remember building all kinds of stupidities with car stereos when I was younger.
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It's for looks :)
It is?
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It's for looks :)
People don't seem to get that if something is built to look 'neat' for marketing purposes, it doesn't necessarily mean it's any good for your system. I also never understood what's the point of painting and tweaking the inside of your computer case that's going to sit under the desk and never get opened after assembling it :)
Perhaps it's some juvenile thing, to show off to friends? I remember building all kinds of stupidities with car stereos when I was younger.
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nobody except me looks at my computer. but if you really want to know it is like selecting skins on an airplane/gv. It wont help you for anything but it keeps you happy. it's all about looks. having hires textures dont really help you in the game? but it sure looks good :salute
besides I am 47, I need to look as juvenile as I can :old: and you want to see juvenile :D, wait till I change mine, after all I cant let lawntard have a better putter than me :furious
semp
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right now my machine sits on my desktop, so i see it. even if i ever made a desk for it i would have a plexiglass shelf for it with holes drilled in it for air flow and cable management. of course, i could pass as juvenile being 18 :D