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Title: World War 5
Post by: AKKuya on January 01, 2012, 11:03:13 PM
Any predictions on what WW5 will be?

WW1 was from roughly 1914 to 1918 between the European Powers over who had the biggest stick.

WW2 was from roughly 1933 to 1946 between Axis and Allied Powers over elbow room.

WW3 was from roughly 1946 to 1991 between Cold War Powers over who had the biggest stick mainly through propaganda and large militaries with a shooting war in Korea (1947-1954 roughly and stalemate to today), a shooting war in Vietnam (1946 - 1980 roughly), a shooting war in Afghanistan (1970's to 1980's) and isolated shooting events in Middle East, Falkland Islands, Central America, Southeast Asia, and Africa.

WW4 is from 1993 to present between Industralized Nations and miltant extremeists over everything and nothing.

This prove's Einstein was wrong with his prediction on WW4.  His response was roughly "I don't know how WW3 will be fought, but I know WW4 will be fought with rocks and sticks."  He was assured that a nuclear holocaust would be the result of WW3.

Technology has become so rampant and increased with speed that conventional wars between nations have truly become obsolete.  Military hardware is so expensive and too long in production that nations would lose thier inventories very quickly save for a lopsided exchange between a massively strong nation and a smaller weaker nation.

Where does that leave the future wars and best ways to prevent them?

Cloning?

Artificial Intelligence?

Mutation?

Haves and Have Nots?

Cyborgs?

Flesh eating viruses coupled with Nervous System Failure?   In other words, Zombies.

It looks like the 21st century will be filled with new dangers complements of the advandcement of human science.  My personal opinion is looking at the blueprints laid out in science fiction books and films on these areas of concentrations.  The solution is real simple.

Charter a yacht with no crew.  Take a 10 gorgeous women and sail off to a deserted island in the South Pacific and let the rest of the world deal with this.

Just hope an asteroid 3 miles wide doesn't slam into the ocean 1000 miles away.  It would be a bad day. 
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: Tupac on January 01, 2012, 11:05:45 PM
I've never heard the cold war reffered to as WW3, or whatever we are in now as WW4
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: MachFly on January 01, 2012, 11:09:44 PM
I've never heard the cold war reffered to as WW3, or whatever we are in now as WW4

Agreed.


WW3 has not happened and I really hope it wont, if it will things will really suck.
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: Spikes on January 01, 2012, 11:17:16 PM
The Cold War was the cold war. There was no fighting.

Vietnam did not involve the rest of the countries.
Afghanistan did not involve the rest of the countries.
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: Tupac on January 01, 2012, 11:29:48 PM
Agreed.


WW3 has not happened and I really hope it wont, if it will things will really suck.

I hope it doesnt happen either, but prefferably it wouldnt happen in either of our lifetimes. (Or if it will happen in our lifetimes, prefferably not the time between when I'm 18-25)
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: skorpion on January 01, 2012, 11:40:52 PM
If there is a WW3, its most likely going to end with nukes going out with "to whom it may concern..." written on it.



Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: TinmanX on January 02, 2012, 12:31:27 AM
The next World War is a Cyber War and it has already begun.
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: Lusche on January 02, 2012, 12:59:44 AM
WW3 was from roughly 1946 to 1991 between Cold War Powers over who had the biggest stick mainly through propaganda and large militaries with a shooting war in Korea (1947-1954 roughly and stalemate to today), a shooting war in Vietnam (1946 - 1980 roughly), a shooting war in Afghanistan (1970's to 1980's) and isolated shooting events in Middle East, Falkland Islands, Central America, Southeast Asia, and Africa.


Particularly the Falkland islands war was totally unrelated to the Cold War.


There has been no WW3 to this date.
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: oakranger on January 02, 2012, 01:01:51 AM
It has been debated that the Seven Year War should be WWI, WWI would be WWII, and WWII would be WWIII.
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: Tupac on January 02, 2012, 01:06:17 AM
It has been debated that the Seven Year War should be WWI, WWI would be WWII, and WWII would be WWIII.

Hmm... That actually makes sense.
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: F22RaptorDude on January 02, 2012, 01:06:25 AM
Being a Cyborg would be awesome, well until you stat missing the part of your body thats robotic
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: Tom5572 on January 02, 2012, 02:00:09 AM
War on the scale of WWII is something i hope to never see. The small conflicts some of us have seen were enough. There is nothing fun about it.
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: TnDep on January 02, 2012, 02:48:34 AM
http://www.rense.com/general3/8000.htm  Nuclear blast that happen 8000 to 12000 years ago


http://articles.latimes.com/2010/apr/09/science/la-sci-hominid9-2010apr09  fossil human remains 2 million years old.


Why haven't we advanced quicker if our species is this old?  Why have we just advanced in the past 200 years?  We don't know our past, much less our future. 

I can say this, it seems the earth resets itself one way or another after we advance so far, what makes it reset I don't know but we are near I presume unfortunently.

Not to get off topic here but I think this plays a vital part of future wars/events.
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: MK-84 on January 02, 2012, 02:55:04 AM
I wonder what defines a World War?
Other than the obvious of the "entire world at war"
If that was the case couldn't the war on terrorism be considered?  It spans almost every continent, and affects in some way almost everyone.  Although the affected countries have not mobilized their entire industries for the war effort as in WW2, and a lesser extend WW1, and a result is that the definition?
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: TnDep on January 02, 2012, 05:45:34 AM
I wonder what defines a World War?
Other than the obvious of the "entire world at war"
If that was the case couldn't the war on terrorism be considered?  It spans almost every continent, and affects in some way almost everyone.  Although the affected countries have not mobilized their entire industries for the war effort as in WW2, and a lesser extend WW1, and a result is that the definition?

I don't think Terrorism is considered a war, you can only try to prevent it.  They plan an attack and carry it out without encountering resistence and they don't want resistence.  When two sides fight each other thats considered a war, not when one hides in the dark planning an invisible attack in my opinion.   
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: 33Vortex on January 02, 2012, 06:02:08 AM
Excerpt (beginning of):

Top Secret
Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars
An introductory programming manual
Operations Research
Technical Manual
TM-SW7905.1

"WELCOME ABOARD
This publication marks the 25th anniversary of the Third World War, called the "Quiet War", being conducted using subjective biological warfare fought with "silent weapons". This book contains an introductory description of this war, its strategies, and its weaponry.
May 1979  #74-1120

Security
It is patently impossible to discuss social engineering or the automation of a society, i.e., the engineering of social automation systems (silent weapons) on a national or worldwide scale without implying extensive objectives of social control and destruction of human life, i.e., slavery and genocide.
This manual is in itself an analog declaration of intent. Such a writing must be SECURED FROM PUBLIC SCRUTINY. Otherwise, it might be recognized as a technically formal declaration of domestic war. Furthermore, whenever any person or group of persons in a position of great power and without full knowledge and consent of the public, uses such knowledge and methology for economic conquest - it must be understood that A STATE OF DOMESTIC WARFARE EXISTS between said person or group of persons and the public.
The solution of today's problems requires an approach which is ruthlessly candid, with no agonizing over religious, moral or cultural values.
You have qualified for this project because of your ability to look at human society with cold objectivity, and yet analyze and discuss your observations and conclusions with others of similar intellectual capacity without a loss of discretion or humility. Such virtues are exercised in your own best interest. Do not deviate from them.

...

POLITICAL INTRODUCTION
In 1954 it was well recognized by those in positions of authority that it was only a matter of time, only a few decades, before the general public would be able to grasp and upset the cradle of power, for the very elements of the new silent-weapon technology were as accessible for a public utopia as they were for providing a private utopia.
The issue of primary concern, that of dominance, revolved around the subject of the energy sciences.

Energy
... In 1954 this was the issue of primary concern. Although the so-called "moral issues" were raised, in view of the law of natural selection it was agreed that a nation or world of people who will not use their intelligence are no better than animals who do not have intelligence. Such people are beasts of burden and steaks on the table by choice and consent.
Consequently, in the interest of future world order, peace, and tranquility, it was decided to privately wage a quiet war against the American public with an ultimate objective of permanently shifting the natural and social energy (wealth) of the undisciplined and irresponsible many into the hands of the self-disciplined, responsible, and worthy few.
In order to implement this objective, it was necessary to create, secure, and apply new weapons which , as it turned out, were a class of weapons so subtle and sophisticated in their principle of operation and public appearance as to earn for themselves the name "silent weapons".
In conclusion, the objective of economic research, as conducted by the magnates of capital (banking) and the industries of commodities (goods) and services, is the establishment of an economy which is totally predictable and manipulatible.
In order to achieve a totally predictable economy, the low-class elements of the society must be brought under total control, i.e., must be housebroken, trained, and assigned a yoke and long-term social duties from a bery early age, before they have an opportunity to question the propriety of the matter. In order to achieve such conformity, the lower-class family unit must be disintegrated by a process of increasing preoccupation of the parents and the establishment of government-operated day-care centers for the occupationally orphaned children.
The quality of education given to the lower class must be of the poorest sort, so that the moat of ignorance isolating the inferior class from the superior class is and remains incomprehensible to the inferior class. With such an initial handicap, even bright lower class individuals have little if any hope of extricating themselves from their assigned lot in life. This form of slavery is essential to maintaining some measure of social order, peace, and tranquility for the ruling upper class."


Welcome to the world of "useless eaters."  :aok

World war 5?  :lol
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: Gh0stFT on January 02, 2012, 06:18:29 AM
i doubt there will be another "World War" in the art of ww1 or ww2. This times are over, or imagine today Country X vs. World, it makes no sense.
Today we are so economically interdependent, one or two countries vs. the world would not stand long. And the people of country X must support
the war for a long time otherwise it wont work, and this all in times with Internet (propaganda?). lol
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: 33Vortex on January 02, 2012, 06:23:12 AM
They're trying to implement internet censorsip designed to end the free flow of information that we enjoy today. The only non-controlled media today exist only on the internet.
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: mechanic on January 02, 2012, 06:28:23 AM
Vortex, you and I are thinking exactly the same on more than one thread like this..
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: 33Vortex on January 02, 2012, 06:31:56 AM
Vortex, you and I are thinking exactly the same on more than one thread like this..

It's all about what information you have access to. False or inaccurate information leads to false truth perception. Poor SA in game terms. ;)

There is no such thing as a free lunch, you will pay one way or another.
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: mechanic on January 02, 2012, 06:39:51 AM
hehe yes, good analogy. That is also only a tiny fraction of the full reality that our civilisation has become, which is scary!
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: 33Vortex on January 02, 2012, 06:43:09 AM
What is, is... truth does not know the boundaries of your imagination. See things for what they are, and you will eventually come to realize that sometimes that is the hardest thing. Perception, we are all locked into our own perspective. The danger of naive realism is ignorance, which the vast majority is living. Ignorance is not bliss, ignorance is damnation.

There is nothing to be afraid of. Fear is the greatest danger, so avoid it. What happens happens, good or bad is our own judgement. Don't judge, release yourself from judgement and you will be happier.
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: Masherbrum on January 02, 2012, 07:48:08 AM
Any predictions on what WW5 will be?

WW1 was from roughly 1914 to 1918 between the European Powers over who had the biggest stick.

WW2 was from roughly 1933 to 1946 between Axis and Allied Powers over elbow room.

WW3 was from roughly 1946 to 1991 between Cold War Powers over who had the biggest stick mainly through propaganda and large militaries with a shooting war in Korea (1947-1954 roughly and stalemate to today), a shooting war in Vietnam (1946 - 1980 roughly), a shooting war in Afghanistan (1970's to 1980's) and isolated shooting events in Middle East, Falkland Islands, Central America, Southeast Asia, and Africa.

WW4 is from 1993 to present between Industralized Nations and miltant extremeists over everything and nothing.

This prove's Einstein was wrong with his prediction on WW4.  His response was roughly "I don't know how WW3 will be fought, but I know WW4 will be fought with rocks and sticks."  He was assured that a nuclear holocaust would be the result of WW3.

World Wars III & IV haven't happened yet.    You are entitled to your opinion, but I believe the majority of this Community would disagree with you on that.
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: Delirium on January 02, 2012, 07:58:03 AM
Vortex, you and I are thinking exactly the same on more than one thread like this..

Please don't encourage him, he still believes 9-11 was an inside job.

While there may be some truth in what he says, he is a complete and utter loon.
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: Melvin on January 02, 2012, 08:09:11 AM
The only non-controlled media today exist only on the internet.

If you believe the internet isn't already under control of a greater entity, you are out of touch with reality.
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: PAKFRONT on January 02, 2012, 08:16:27 AM
There is an excellent Documentary, called "Human Resources" that ppl NEED to watch..
True, Documented, Shocking! The world as represented in our culture, is NOT what it seems!
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: 33Vortex on January 02, 2012, 08:20:53 AM
Please don't encourage him, he still believes 9-11 was an inside job.

While there may be some truth in what he says, he is a complete and utter loon.

While this may be perfectly in line with and representative of your own opinion, it is and remains just that. Your opinon about others also speak volumes more about yourself, than it does about them.

Get in touch with reality, humility is a very sure sign of intelligence. I'm sure you're not a bad person, you're just not acting up to who you truly are, or at least could become.


If you believe the internet isn't already under control of a greater entity, you are out of touch with reality.

Oh it's controlled, just not to the extent of other media. It varies depending on locality, from where you access the net, of course.
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: curry1 on January 02, 2012, 11:53:39 AM
I don't think Terrorism is considered a war, you can only try to prevent it.  They plan an attack and carry it out without encountering resistence and they don't want resistence.  When two sides fight each other thats considered a war, not when one hides in the dark planning an invisible attack in my opinion.   

I agree especially when your own citizens are terrorists.
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: RTHolmes on January 02, 2012, 01:49:26 PM
http://www.rense.com/general3/8000.htm  Nuclear blast that happen 8000 to 12000 years ago

 :rofl


http://articles.latimes.com/2010/apr/09/science/la-sci-hominid9-2010apr09  fossil human remains 2 million years old.

Why haven't we advanced quicker if our species is this old?  Why have we just advanced in the past 200 years?  We don't know our past, much less our future.

those fossils arent even the same genus as us, let alone the same species. they were probably about as smart as a poodle.
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: bagrat on January 02, 2012, 02:43:22 PM
http://www.rense.com/general3/8000.htm  Nuclear blast that happen 8000 to 12000 years ago


http://articles.latimes.com/2010/apr/09/science/la-sci-hominid9-2010apr09  fossil human remains 2 million years old.


Why haven't we advanced quicker if our species is this old?  Why have we just advanced in the past 200 years?  We don't know our past, much less our future.  

I can say this, it seems the earth resets itself one way or another after we advance so far, what makes it reset I don't know but we are near I presume unfortunently.

Not to get off topic here but I think this plays a vital part of future wars/events.

so people have been blowing themselves back to the stoneage for a while now.

and ww5 will be a free for all where everybody acts as a terrorist for there own reasons.
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: Meatwad on January 02, 2012, 02:53:41 PM
When WW3 happens you will know it right away

And it is a safe bet that a thermonuclear exchange will occur
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: AKKuya on January 02, 2012, 04:56:28 PM
No comments on the 10 gorgeous women on a remote island in the South Pacific?

I'm disappointed.
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: Ardy123 on January 02, 2012, 05:00:52 PM
Afghanistan did not involve the rest of the countries.

hey man, I heard that even Luxembourg sent their one troop.

(http://media.theonion.com/images/articles/article/2135/Bush-Commits_jpg_600x1000_q85.jpg)
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: Penguin on January 02, 2012, 05:54:54 PM
The idea of a "World War" was largely invented to describe the horrible conflicts that plagued much of, but not all of, the world between 1914-1918 and 1936-1945 once the second conflict occurred (the First World War was referred to as the Great War during the interbellum period of 1918-1936).  In the sense that emerged after World War II, there has not been another World War.  However, human conflict, due to the unpredictability of the future and the nationalist or self-interested aims of at least a few, will continue throughout the forseeable future.  However, to label the War on Terror a World War is a misnomer.  Though almost every developed and many undeveloped countries have taken measures to protect themselves from the very real threat of terrorism, few have openly fought terrorist or insurgent organisations at all or as much as the United States or Israel.

Though the War on Terror has lead to equally disturbing measures on both sides, it is not the end of humanity.  Terrorists, by nature, have few resources, and the idea of even a group as well funded as Al'Quaeda starting a full-on shooting war is unlikely because it would not be as fruitful as flying a plane into a building full of people, or releasing poison gas into a subway station, both of which are cheap and effective (the UN would have an easy time fighting a conventional war) compared to fielding an army.  However, it is important not to lower ourselves down to the level of terrorists via unlawful and inhumane actions such as extrajudicial punishment, excessive use of the military police and tribunals, and as seen in the Gulf War, cluster-bombing.  So relax, keep an eye on new laws passed regarding terrorism, and if you disagree with them, then 'stick it to the man' and run for office.  If the people support you (as they should, if you are indeed correct) you will win and put in your new policy, and all will be well. 

-Penguin

P.S. And, regardless of the situation, living on a private island with gorgeous women sounds like plan! :devil
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: TnDep on January 02, 2012, 06:16:43 PM
The idea of a "World War" was largely invented to describe the horrible conflicts that plagued much of, but not all of, the world between 1914-1918 and 1936-1945 once the second conflict occurred (the First World War was referred to as the Great War during the interbellum period of 1918-1936).  In the sense that emerged after World War II, there has not been another World War.  However, human conflict, due to the unpredictability of the future and the nationalist or self-interested aims of at least a few, will continue throughout the forseeable future.  However, to label the War on Terror a World War is a misnomer.  Though almost every developed and many undeveloped countries have taken measures to protect themselves from the very real threat of terrorism, few have openly fought terrorist or insurgent organisations at all or as much as the United States or Israel.

Though the War on Terror has lead to equally disturbing measures on both sides, it is not the end of humanity.  Terrorists, by nature, have few resources, and the idea of even a group as well funded as Al'Quaeda starting a full-on shooting war is unlikely because it would not be as fruitful as flying a plane into a building full of people, or releasing poison gas into a subway station, both of which are cheap and effective (the UN would have an easy time fighting a conventional war) compared to fielding an army.  However, it is important not to lower ourselves down to the level of terrorists via unlawful and inhumane actions such as extrajudicial punishment, excessive use of the military police and tribunals, and as seen in the Gulf War, cluster-bombing.  So relax, keep an eye on new laws passed regarding terrorism, and if you disagree with them, then 'stick it to the man' and run for office.  If the people support you (as they should, if you are indeed correct) you will win and put in your new policy, and all will be well. 

-Penguin

P.S. And, regardless of the situation, living on a private island with gorgeous women sounds like plan! :devil

This where I believe you are wrong, even if they never get their hands on nuclear weapons, it is a real threat to have a few chemists to develop a deadly virus that invects the world.  This is a much bigger threat then nuclear.
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: Penguin on January 02, 2012, 07:35:15 PM
No, you actually agreed with me.  I said that in the case of a terrorist organization, tactics such as those would have the highest return-on-investment.  A deadly virus, though horrible, would not cause a shooting war; it would give medicical researchers a run for their money.

-Penguin
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: oakranger on January 02, 2012, 07:46:55 PM
Look at the Seven Year war (1756 - 1763) that included the follow counties/tribs.  Why could this not have been WWI?

Prussia
Great Britain
 Hanover
Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel
Iroquois Confederacy
Portugal
Hesse-Kassel
Schaumburg-Lippe    
France
Austria
Russia
Spain
Sweden
Saxony
Bengal Subah
New France
Abenaki
Algonquin
Caughnawaga Mohawk
Lenape
Mi'kmaq
Ojibwa
Ottawa
Shawnee
Wyandot
British America
Catawba
Cherokee (before 1758)
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: Penguin on January 02, 2012, 07:49:34 PM
I got the same feeling when I read about it in history (AP History, so its about as unbiased as I can hope for; I'll use my judgement to fill in the gaps).

-Penguin
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: curry1 on January 02, 2012, 11:04:32 PM
so people have been blowing themselves back to the stoneage for a while now.

and ww5 will be a free for all where everybody acts as a terrorist for there own reasons.

The people I will fight against are those who use their, there and they're incorrectly.
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: ghi on January 02, 2012, 11:43:59 PM
Any predictions on what WW5 will be?
WW3 was from roughly 1946 to 1991
I was watching this documentary,made in 1980, over 25 years ago during cold war,  was hard to believe , but today watching the daily news, seems on unstoppable ; I believe ww3 can start anytime with a breaking news; imop will start with Iran/Persia/the medes;  are mentioned many times in other places i can talk about on this forum;
Check this from min; 1:05:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fRc9RqU2E8
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: PAKFRONT on January 03, 2012, 03:18:11 AM
Some people are still living in a mirrored bubble????? Only see reflections of their own world, blind to the rest of what is happening.. Here's a clue to the future, US constitutional law has been suspended.. The DH/SS can DETAIN WITHOUT CHARGE, and HOLD INDEFINATELY.. Got that??? US Govt just passed our version of the enabling acts.. Your next frickin war is going to be on your own doorsteps, pretty damn soon.. They passed the NDAA because they are ready to crash it all! Why are they gonna crash the system? Because they have committed crimes and treason so vast, sold us out so dirty, that only a total societal downfall can cover it!

I'm ready for this comin crap, or I wouldn't be here wasting time doing this!
Folks ain't got much time left.. They have already started twistin the screws..
It is called debt slavery, and they are about to give Americans a taste of it!

Good luck to ya all
PAK
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: MK-84 on January 03, 2012, 03:50:02 AM
i doubt there will be another "World War" in the art of ww1 or ww2. This times are over, or imagine today Country X vs. World, it makes no sense.
Today we are so economically interdependent, one or two countries vs. the world would not stand long. And the people of country X must support
the war for a long time otherwise it wont work, and this all in times with Internet (propaganda?). lol

With the exception of the LOL at the end...
Reminds me of "The world is flat" and "Why we fight" and "Zeitgeist"
Someone will totally get that
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: PAKFRONT on January 03, 2012, 03:53:24 AM
In the very near future, things are gonna get real simple.. Are you worthy of the food you are gonna consume? Are ya?? REALLY???
And how well you diddle your stick, ain't gonna mean jack squat.. I'd laugh at the stupidity of people, how unaware they are..
Geez, even THIS late in the game, some are still dumb as a post! But this crap is deadly serious.. YOU have been sold OUT..
And your new owners are coming to take possesion of THEIR PROPERTY! Meaning YOU! But they are gonna have to cull the herd ya know..

Stock chutes THIS WAY! Baaaaa baaaaa!
Guess you better pay your tax for breathing THEIR AIR huh???
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: 33Vortex on January 03, 2012, 04:07:15 AM
I think Shakespeare was rather perceptive with his "All the world is a stage..." remark.

Have you guys any idea what the National Defense Authorization Act means? The constitution is hereby nullified. All of you who claim to still have your constitutional rights are now classified as domestic terrorists. The feds aren't openly acting on it as of yet, but they will when the time comes.

http://pastebin.com/nSvjR2Ev
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: mechanic on January 03, 2012, 04:58:12 AM

While there may be some truth in what he says, he is a complete and utter loon.


I am a loon myself  :)

Truly original philosophers have to think crazy thoughts to reach the nuggets of genius.
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: 33Vortex on January 03, 2012, 05:17:09 AM
"Those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do."

Here's one example (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWfph3iNC-k), not that he ever wanted to or cared for changing the world much... he just push the boundaries of what is considered possible. Thus, by having a different perception himself of what is possible first, then go out and show that it's possible second, he can change the world's perception of what is possible third. He is widely considered crazy by most people, including himself. He's actually quite proud of being crazy. As he, and many others, consider the norm to be a despicable state.
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: mechanic on January 03, 2012, 05:21:39 AM
jeb is one of my heroes
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: Selino631 on January 03, 2012, 10:52:09 AM
I agree with what pretty much everyone else has said other then the OP
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: bagrat on January 03, 2012, 01:28:43 PM
The people I will fight against are those who use their, there and they're incorrectly.

better go automatic, you'll end up with arthritis from pullin the trigger.  :devil
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: Yeager on January 03, 2012, 02:06:13 PM
YOU have been sold OUT..
And your new owners are coming to take possesion of THEIR PROPERTY! Meaning YOU! But they are gonna have to cull the herd ya know..
reading soldier of fortune in the bathroom again eh...just clean up when your done.
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: DaCoon on January 03, 2012, 04:10:53 PM

Have you guys any idea what the National Defense Authorization Act means? The constitution is hereby nullified. All of you who claim to still have your constitutional rights are now classified as domestic terrorists. The feds aren't openly acting on it as of yet, but they will when the time comes.


WOW..... and I just got my concealed carry permit too.....
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: Nathan60 on January 03, 2012, 05:16:56 PM
man I'm too scared of the people in this thread  to make light of the topic  :noid Do you know the best crops to  grow in your location,and which wild plants  are  edible? When the time comes that's good info to have. Me? I'm in Georgia  I'm gonna have a peanut  heavy diet just as  long  as the  winds from a  nuke Birmingham,Al don't drop  falout on me I'll be ok. I got my aluminum hat and my iodine.
(http://www.ki4u.com/nuclearsurvival/states/aacont2.jpg)
 Better yet  south central  Tennesee for me.  :banana: Also Texas you  keep your  fallout to yourself, and why would macon get hit but not Atlanta(only city near the red mark in Georgia) why not  King's Bay or the ports in Savannah
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: Nathan60 on January 03, 2012, 05:21:29 PM
man I'm too scared of the people in this thread  to make light of the topic  :noid Do you know the best crops to  grow in your location,and which wild plants  are  edible? When the time comes that's good info to have. Me? I'm in Georgia  I'm gonna have a peanut  heavy diet just as  long  as the  winds from a  nuke Birmingham,Al don't drop  falout on me I'll be ok. I got my aluminum hat and my iodine.
(http://www.ki4u.com/nuclearsurvival/states/aacont2.jpg)
 Better yet  south central  Tennesee for me.  :banana: Also Texas you  keep your  fallout to yourself, and why would macon get hit(only city near the red mark in Georgia) but not Atlanta why not  King's Bay or the ports in Savannah
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: PAKFRONT on January 03, 2012, 05:52:11 PM
reading soldier of fortune in the bathroom again eh...just clean up when your done.
Soldier of fortune huh??? What planet are you from??? Hit a time warp there??
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: 33Vortex on January 04, 2012, 02:55:59 AM
WOW..... and I just got my concealed carry permit too.....

Good for you but what's your point? The fed pumped out some ~17 trillion dollars into the world economy between dec 2007 and june 2010 in their 'quantitative easing' efforts. This only dig the hole deeper. Gravity is law, so how much harder will you hit the rock bottom? The federal budget deficit is somewhere on the ~14 trillion scale. Is that a issue, you think? The US dollar is the most overvalued item on the world market today, and what do you think will happen when you lose the status of world currency? The prediction is a ~25% loss of living standards across the board within the good 'ole US of A. With ~44 million US citizens already living on food stamps...

Quick numbers game:
(http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-61f7eebba996d63d218221df5b3271a6)

Again, good for you with the concealed carry permit. Odds are you're gonna need it... soon™  :aok

To clarify, the federal govt has for some time now been writing legislation to give its federal agencies the authority to deal with citizens (and states even) in any way it deems necessary to ensure its survival throughout the coming financial collapse. What you have then, good Sir, is a police state.
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: Yeager on January 04, 2012, 03:42:33 AM
The fed pumped out some ~17 trillion dollars into the world economy between dec 2007 and june 2010
do you actually believe that you have come into contact some sort of divine knowledge that the vast numbers of literate people across the rest of the globe have no access to?

Do you actually believe that you could resist the downward pressure of some hungry bubba holding your breathing hole 12 inches beneath the pond surface while he finishes off the last of your survivalist pop tart?


really.........be quiet already.
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: 33Vortex on January 04, 2012, 03:47:55 AM
do you actually believe that you have come into contact some sort of divine knowledge that the vast numbers of literate people across the rest of the globe have no access to?

Do you actually believe that you could resist the downward pressure of some hungry bubba holding your breathing hole 12 inches beneath the pond surface while he finishes off the last of your survivalist pop tart?


really.........be quiet already.

Sorry, what was your argument again? All the info is out there all you have to do is look, it does not take some sort of genius to figure it out. If anything of what I said was offensive to you, I do not apologize. Let nature have its course. If you think arrogance will score you some sort of points, how did you figure?
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: Yeager on January 04, 2012, 03:49:45 AM
Soldier of fortune huh??? What planet are you from??? Hit a time warp there??
are you a graduate of any level of public education in the western world?  or did wolves raise you in the filth of bear den?
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: Yeager on January 04, 2012, 03:56:39 AM
Sorry, what was your argument again?
My argument is this: Live life long enough and you will start to figure out where you land in the daily scheme of things.  That is to say: people with your attitude tend to end up on state assistance before they are 40, or liviing in the deep woods  behind the gas station chewing on bear scat for a living.

Give it a break doomsday clan man.
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: PAKFRONT on January 04, 2012, 03:59:01 AM
December 2011 marked the highest numbers ever recorded for background checks.. Record breaking sales numbers of firearms of all kinds, not just a spurt either, like a tidal wave still building.. Same for body armor and tac gear.. This year is the nexus.. Everything is TUNED, to happen this year.. Orchestrated, coordinated, instigated.. We are gonna get hit on all fronts, so fast that the sheep cry for mercy, and PLEAD FOR THE GOVT TO SAVE US! That Govt "Aid" will come with a collar and yoke.. That was the plan anyway, but it's clear that a major part of the population is going to refuse their "Help".. That is who the camps are for.. Oh Yes, they have been preparing for a long time, for the COG.. Continuity of Govt.. But the reason it was so secret? LOL, because the main threat in the COG, was always the American people themselves.. They kept it secret for 30+ yrs, while they spent our money, making preparations for war, against THEIR OWN PEOPLE.. This new American SS, is the illegal arm that will defend the new statist regime..
Just as the "Nutcases" said! That's pretty rich huh??? LOL!
Finally, the real players are taking the field.. Time for hiding IS OVER!

My religious friends say the beast walks the earth, and he is gathering his army for the end times.. Hmmmm, not sure about that yet, but I read the chatter coming from that sector too.. Gives me a better "Tell" on the situation.. All the signs I'm gettin, say war is coming, soon..
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: PAKFRONT on January 04, 2012, 04:00:03 AM
My argument is this: Live life long enough and you will start to figure out where you land in the daily scheme of things.  That is to say: people with your attitude tend to end up on state assistance before they are 40, or liviing in the deep woods  behind the gas station chewing on bear scat for a living.

Give it a break doomsday clan man.
And who owns you???
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: Melvin on January 04, 2012, 04:10:50 AM
liviing in the deep woods  behind the gas station chewing on bear scat for a living.

What's wrong with that?

bear scat tastes like raspberries.

Um... or so I've heard...
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: 33Vortex on January 04, 2012, 04:12:22 AM
My argument is this: Live life long enough and you will start to figure out where you land in the daily scheme of things.  That is to say: people with your attitude tend to end up on state assistance before they are 40, or liviing in the deep woods  behind the gas station chewing on bear scat for a living.

Give it a break doomsday clan man.

 :lol

Sorry but your point eludes me. Making assumptions doesn't make you look good nor seem smart. Arrogance on the other hand make you look plain stupid. You may not be a dumb person, but that usually doesn't prevent people from acting dumb which in effect is the same thing. So I don't know... but neither do you so come off the illusory arrogance high.  ;)
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: DaCoon on January 04, 2012, 06:46:34 AM
Good for you but what's your point?

my point is your post about constitutional rights is wrong.  the last thing any power taking over wants is a legally armed public.



   edit: if you wish to discuss this further, PM me and I'll be happy to elaborate.   :cheers:
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: 33Vortex on January 04, 2012, 09:55:50 AM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: Nathan60 on January 04, 2012, 12:24:30 PM
Also consider that there is a difference between what the law says, and what the courts practice. Besides, what if you don't even make it to court?

They have already made the coffins for the mass graves( I mean talk about  pork barrell spending!) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPioG_4_XEc&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPioG_4_XEc&feature=related)
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: 33Vortex on January 04, 2012, 12:35:33 PM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: PAKFRONT on January 04, 2012, 12:35:56 PM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: LCADolby on January 04, 2012, 12:59:42 PM
So... World War 5

World monetary systems collapse
North Korea takes it's chance while the world is preoccupied
North Korea invades it's southern neighbours
America gives military support to South Korea
China aid North Norea, an opportunity to test it's new weapon technology.
America goes to South Korea's aid declaring war on China.
The European Union aid America.
Russia aid China.
Iran, news goes worldwide, announcing it has created Nuclear weapons.
China, Russia, America and Europe sign a peace accord.
China, Russia, America and Europe (in a joint offensive,) invade Iran.
The joint invasion goes well and the capital become surrounded.
Iran detonates it's nukes on home soil as a last act of defiance.

Wow that would be a book.


Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: RTHolmes on January 04, 2012, 01:02:17 PM
I like the way threads like this eventually flush the nutters out from cover  :lol




... oh and IN!
Title: Re: World War 5
Post by: Skuzzy on January 04, 2012, 01:06:52 PM
It was only a matter of time.