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Title: Too Grumpy
Post by: Kingpin on January 09, 2012, 04:00:39 PM
After some reflection, I think my frustration with many aspects of AH and the quality of game play has spilled over into my conduct in game -- towards both opponents and countrymen alike.  Lately my comments have become increasingly negative, I’ve been complaining more on text and have even found myself PM’ing more of the “unsuitable” players (bomb-and-bailers, HO/rammers and other suicide-style pilots).  While I may abhor those who play the game this way (don't fly to survive), meeting my expectations of how the game should be played should not result in an insulting comment or PM.  I was wrong to do this.

I have generally tried to conduct myself with more class, and am ashamed of lowering myself to that level.  This community already has enough a-holes in it that I don’t need to join their ranks.  It seems I’ve reached my time for taking an extended (or permanent) break.  None the less, I shouldn’t have conducted myself in that manner, whether I plan to stay in this community or not.

While I’m sure most of you don’t give a red cent what I say or do (nor should you), I felt I should at least offer a general apology to anyone I may have insulted, offended or even mildly annoyed recently.

<S> and blue skies
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: ink on January 09, 2012, 04:07:43 PM
funny I am the exact opposite I think its funny as heck that people will fly like total twits to save there cartoon life :lol

FSO scenarios is one thing but MA  :rofl :rofl

I guess each person has their own way of thinking about it....me I am here to fight period....if its 1 or 20  I am fighting...and I certainly don't care what anyone else does....nether should you

no need to get frustrated and leave :old:
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: Shuffler on January 09, 2012, 04:14:19 PM
funny I am the exact opposite I think its funny as heck that people will fly like total twits to save there cartoon life :lol

FSO scenarios is one thing but MA  :rofl :rofl

I guess each person has their own way of thinking about it....me I am here to fight period....if its 1 or 20  I am fighting...and I certainly don't care what anyone else does....nether should you

no need to get frustrated and leave :old:

^^^ What he said. :D

Stick around and next time you feel like PMing someone.... PM me and rant if it makes you feel better. I'll just read it and grin. Then no one will be the wiser.  ;)
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: pipz on January 09, 2012, 04:49:05 PM
Your only human Kingpin. We all have ups and downs. The up side is that you realize your behaviour has changed and you want to do something about it.

Grant me the stubbornness to change what I can, the laziness to accept what I cannot, and enough beer to sit around and endlessly discuss the difference between the two.
Dick Dunn



Did you ever notice when you blow in a dog's face he gets mad at you?
But when you take him in a car he sticks his head out the window.
Steve Bluestone
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: SunBat on January 09, 2012, 04:52:05 PM
 This community already has enough a-holes in it...

So this begs the question...

Does the community attract these types or produce these types?  It seems from your experience that it is the latter. 

Hmmm, hmmmm, hmmmmm.

Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: SPKmes on January 09, 2012, 04:58:53 PM
 :salute KINGPIN ....
I know how you feel....I had a forced break from the game and had time to reflect ... cause like you I was ... and still do get disgruntled by player behaviour and have a cry on 200 ..... what I have come to realize is that there was one reason I became addicted to AH and that was one the community in general ...(still a couple I actually can't stand but 1 or 2 out of hundreds ain't bad) ..... when I started I would die much more and in similar ways as today...it is just that I have grown and know more about the game and game play and thus it is frustrating ...... eventually the newer guys will come around and those who don't wont stay and those who do will stay due to changes in attitude and also style (usually).....

just so we get it straight I will still have a cry about things but I don't really mean much by it...just a venting system and usually have a laugh at myself for being such a doofus afterwards hahaha
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: Kingpin on January 09, 2012, 05:08:56 PM
funny I am the exact opposite I think its funny as heck that people will fly like total twits to save there cartoon life :lol

I think we're talking about two different things here, though, Ink.

You don't fly to land all your sorties because you thrive on fighting against bad odds.  And you do quite well at it.  When you get shot down after killing 3 of the 5 who you were fighting, that's a win in your book (or anyone's really).

What I'm talking about are the guys who will intentionally try to HO or ram you every pass because they only want to knock you down.  That's not a fight in my book either.  Or even worse, the guys who will ignore all the airborne cons just to dive into the ack to shoot someone landing/taking off and be dead 3 seconds later to the ack.

Sadly my experience is there are 20 encounters like those, for every one 5-minute, sweaty-palmed, heart racing fight with someone the likes of you or the many other good knife-fighters in the game.

The other advantage you have, is you couldn't care less about the map.  Unfortunately, I used to like the strategic element of the game, and it was one of the things that drew me in.  I have found it to be a truth, however, that the LESS you care about the map, the MORE, you'll like the game.  To me that says something is broken in terms of the strategic game play.  Among other things...

But, I didn't want to turn this into a rant about AH game play.  There will be endless threads on that.  This was meant as an apology to clear the air before I take a break.

Thanks for the encouragement though, gents (INK/Shuffler).

<S>

Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: Yeager on January 09, 2012, 05:29:06 PM
There are so many ways to play this game.  It is truly a sandbox experience.  Both good and bad....... Make of it your game and enjoy it.  Or don't.  It really is your choice and belongs to no one else. 

Bottom line: do not over think the damned thing.  Just get out and play.
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: ink on January 09, 2012, 05:37:31 PM
I really cant imagine people purposely trying to RAM (except that guy who is trying to prove the collision model stinks) if they do they are total tards in my eyes.

I am guessing the many reasons you are getting rammed/HOed is the person you are fighting basically that's all they know...sometimes the HO is the best option (110vszero ECT ECT)....I cant stand HOing yet if a 51/any plane that just BnZs me at some point I will get tired of them extending 3-4K away and just face shoot them on the next pass....

I think you may need just some more practice on avoiding the HO and setting up for the crossing shot which is unavoidable by the HOer....eventually they will learn the HO is not the best "tactic" or they will say stuff like "BS no way you could make that shot" or PM/Vox rant to ya..calling ya a cheater......which is my favorite thing in AH.......if not well whatever it is their 15$

well hope you change your mind....and Thanx for apology......that shows much character :salute  
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: crazyivan on January 09, 2012, 05:53:50 PM
So this begs the question...

Does the community attract these types or produce these types?  It seems from your experience that it is the latter.  

Hmmm, hmmmm, hmmmmm.


I like to think that there's alittle a-hole hidden in everyone. hmmm hmmm.
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: Big Rat on January 09, 2012, 06:00:09 PM
 :saluteKingpin,

It's nice to see someone taking responsibility for their actions every once in a while, it's a rare thing these days :aok.

Remember there are other parts of this game besides simply flying in the MA's, most of which avoid most of the activity you speak of.  FSO, scenarios, AHRL, help some new guys out in the TA, and GVing (albeit this is frustrating at times, becouse I'm not very good at it lol), and many other special events and smaller scenarios.  I haven't flown regularly in the MA's for many years now, I'm perfectly happy training, flying FSO's and Scenarios, along with the occasional GV fight.  Try something a bit different for a bit, who knows it may open a whole new world for you here :D

 :salute
BigRat
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: bacon8tr on January 09, 2012, 06:39:28 PM
Hang in there kingpin and hang tough  :salute
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: Daddkev on January 09, 2012, 06:41:50 PM
 :noid :noid Come fly with me....im Naked!!! :rock :noid :noid
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: mthrockmor on January 09, 2012, 07:08:30 PM
:noid :noid Come fly with me....im Naked!!! :rock :noid :noid

A naked 12 year old?! Holy crap! That's just disturbing!

Kingpin, I've been in the same boat off and on for a few months. I've only cussed a couple folks but have sent a few sarcastic PMs. Good thing I'm on the road with work. After a day or so I only remember the sweet feel of killing an La-7 or Spit, not the ho-bags.

Boo
 :salute
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: grumpy37 on January 09, 2012, 07:38:11 PM
for a second there i thought he was writing this to me......      :salute sir, i feel your pain
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: PuppetZ on January 09, 2012, 10:47:16 PM
the LESS you care about the map, the MORE, you'll like the game.

Wait! What is the map for beside providing a place from where to take off and die over?

Anyway, as one squadmate said : "stay pissed bro. That's what make us rage quit and yet keep us coming for more"

 :aok
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: LCADolby on January 10, 2012, 02:08:38 AM
So this begs the question...

Does the community attract these types or produce these types?  It seems from your experience that it is the latter.  

Hmmm, hmmmm, hmmmmm.


Just from observations on a few from 200 and PMs over the past 3 days or so;

I've always come across as one in text form long before AH.
vDALLAS Probably was created by the community...
Perdweeb convinced Jager to become one...
Debrody seems to be one as soon as he gets shot down...
Changeup joined AoM and became more of one...
JUGgler seemed to grow into one as soon as he got into AoM...
Tobias seems to be one when he's got Changeup and JUGgler with him, but quickly returns to normal without his 'wingmen'...

As it goes, AoM produces a majority share of a-holes for the community.
The seething hate-filled elitist hypocritical smack-talking a-holes... not like AIDS and sexually transmitted is it, only it's getting around all the Muppets I feel?

This is probably a rule 4... Meh, after all the watermelonI took on 200 from the AoMs, this post is well worth the ban I'll most likely get.
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: kilo2 on January 10, 2012, 02:22:02 AM
Just from observations on a few from 200 and PMs over the past 3 days or so;

I've always come across as one in text form long before AH.
vDALLAS Probably was created by the community...
Perdweeb convinced Jager to become one...
Debrody seems to be one as soon as he gets shot down...
Changeup joined AoM and became more of one...
JUGgler seemed to grow into one as soon as he got into AoM...
Tobias seems to be one when he's got Changeup and JUGgler with him, but quickly returns to normal without his 'wingmen'...

As it goes, AoM produces a majority share of a-holes for the community.
The seething hate-filled elitist hypocritical smack-talking a-holes... not like AIDS and sexually transmitted is it, only it's getting around all the Muppets I feel?

This is probably a rule 4... Meh, after all the watermelonI took on 200 from the AoMs, this post is well worth the ban I'll most likely get.

Look in the mirror.
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: LCADolby on January 10, 2012, 02:24:04 AM
Look in the mirror.

I did

I've always come across as one in text form long before AH.
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: kilo2 on January 10, 2012, 02:30:05 AM
I did


People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: LCADolby on January 10, 2012, 02:32:18 AM
People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Sometimes it's exactly what it needs
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: kilo2 on January 10, 2012, 02:44:25 AM
Well now we know AoM produces egotistical a-holes.

I kinda hoped that would KNs thing.
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: Ardy123 on January 10, 2012, 02:49:15 AM
Perdweeb convinced Jager to become one...
Debrody seems to be one as soon as he gets shot down...
Changeup joined AoM and became more of one...
JUGgler seemed to grow into one as soon as he got into AoM...
Tobias seems to be one when he's got Changeup and JUGgler with him, but quickly returns to normal without his 'wingmen'...
... Meh, after all the watermelonI took on 200 from the AoMs, this post is well worth the ban I'll most likely get.

What about..

SunBat
Grizz
Bunnies
Agent360
Slash27
Strong10
Paleoguy
Ink
Stang
Kappa

Are they all a-holes too?
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: Slash27 on January 10, 2012, 02:53:30 AM
Just from observations on a few from 200 and PMs over the past 3 days or so;

I've always come across as one in text form long before AH.
vDALLAS Probably was created by the community...
Perdweeb convinced Jager to become one...
Debrody seems to be one as soon as he gets shot down...
Changeup joined AoM and became more of one...
JUGgler seemed to grow into one as soon as he got into AoM...
Tobias seems to be one when he's got Changeup and JUGgler with him, but quickly returns to normal without his 'wingmen'...

As it goes, AoM produces a majority share of a-holes for the community.
The seething hate-filled elitist hypocritical smack-talking a-holes... not like AIDS and sexually transmitted is it, only it's getting around all the Muppets I feel?

This is probably a rule 4... Meh, after all the watermelonI took on 200 from the AoMs, this post is well worth the ban I'll most likely get.
HHmmm. How to respond?????
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: Ardy123 on January 10, 2012, 02:55:15 AM
HHmmm. How to respond?????
supposedly tobias and midway are one in the same....
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: LCADolby on January 10, 2012, 03:08:09 AM
HHmmm. How to respond?????
Changeup, Debrody Tobias and JUGgler have been at me constantly.
Respond to my post how you like.
But be sure to take into account borderline, or even plain abusive griefing I endured.
Real well temperamented squad you have there.
Pushing other players constantly.
Blatantly pushing the limits of what is acceptable beyond anyone else I've ever seen ingame.
It's a bloody joke.
And I can't believe they were able continue talking smack and being offensive for a good hour or so.
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: Ardy123 on January 10, 2012, 03:09:36 AM
Changeup, Debrody Tobias and JUGgler have been at me constantly.

What could have they possibly said?
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: LCADolby on January 10, 2012, 03:11:39 AM
What could have they possibly said?

Ask them, they'll fill you in, while giggling like school girls i expect.
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: Ardy123 on January 10, 2012, 03:11:59 AM
Ask them, they'll fill you in, while giggling like school girls i expect.

Isn't tobias midway?

EDIT: My guess is you poked sticks at them, and then received a bashing for doing so. Its not smart to start something you can't finish, esp against some of the games wittiest players.

No offence Dolby, but on many occasions, I have seen you antagonize people on 200. Often its just a whine about how you imagine that you were wrongly killed but it has been more than that too. Don't be surprised when some are willing to strike back. As kilo said, don't throw stones from a glass house.
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: LCADolby on January 10, 2012, 03:13:16 AM
Isn't tobias midway?

Tobias with his AoM tag and typing like BiPolar on 200... So no can't be Midway
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: Ardy123 on January 10, 2012, 03:19:27 AM
Tobias with his AoM tag and typing like BiPolar on 200... So no can't be Midway
so he is BiPoLaR?
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: LCADolby on January 10, 2012, 03:21:51 AM


EDIT: My guess is you poked sticks at them, and then received a bashing for doing so. Its not smart to start something you can't finish, esp against some of the games wittiest players.

No offence Dolby, but on many occasions, I have seen you antagonize people on 200. Often its just a whine about how you imagine that you were wrongly killed but it has been more than that too. Don't be surprised when some are willing to strike back. As kilo said, don't throw stones from a glass house.

No actually I whined at SHawks picking while I was trying to finish an epic turn fight against WING##. They just chimed in and never let go, getting more and more offensive wth each post. Witty I can deal with, puerile hate I'm not so good at especially outnumbered. As for my own failings with others, I usually only last at one person a few text exchanges not for a diddlying hour!
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: Slash27 on January 10, 2012, 03:22:46 AM
After some reflection, I think my frustration with many aspects of AH and the quality of game play has spilled over into my conduct in game -- towards both opponents and countrymen alike.  Lately my comments have become increasingly negative, I’ve been complaining more on text and have even found myself PM’ing more of the “unsuitable” players (bomb-and-bailers, HO/rammers and other suicide-style pilots).  While I may abhor those who play the game this way (don't fly to survive), meeting my expectations of how the game should be played should not result in an insulting comment or PM.  I was wrong to do this.

I have generally tried to conduct myself with more class, and am ashamed of lowering myself to that level.  This community already has enough a-holes in it that I don’t need to join their ranks.  It seems I’ve reached my time for taking an extended (or permanent) break.  None the less, I shouldn’t have conducted myself in that manner, whether I plan to stay in this community or not.

While I’m sure most of you don’t give a red cent what I say or do (nor should you), I felt I should at least offer a general apology to anyone I may have insulted, offended or even mildly annoyed recently.

<S> and blue skies

You have to make the effort to start recognizing you anger setting in and head it off. Let the little things go. You get caught up in a bunch of little things next thing you know you're at some one for an Innocent joke or you're so on tilt you're taking everything coming at you on 200 as a slight and an insult. Not that I'm some guru of fake cartoon pilot land, but I used to get caught up in it quite often. I am better now but still prone to the rage and going Qaddafi in game here and there. Try turning off 200, step away for the night, go fly a SEA event, go DA, just remove yourself from it for a little while. Several week breaks can do wonders as well. I would get to the point I'd be thinking about dumb stuff that happened to me in game while driving down the road. Or be a work dragging a line inside a burning house still trying to figure out how that guy reversed my so fast three times in a row when i knew he was going to do it. I'm no AH Guru but put it down for a bit and get your focus back. :huh

But I'm an AoM a-hole from what I hear so feel free just to skip my post.
 :D























Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: LCADolby on January 10, 2012, 03:24:29 AM

But I'm an AoM a-hole from what I hear so feel free just to skip my post.
 :D

Don't go putting words in my mouth.
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: Ardy123 on January 10, 2012, 03:26:56 AM
Don't go putting words in my mouth.

As it goes, AoM produces a majority share of a-holes for the community.

just saying...
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: LCADolby on January 10, 2012, 03:28:25 AM
just saying...
Thank you.

I'm glad the word Majority can be seen. Effectively changing it to 'all AoM' is putting words in my mouth.
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: Ardy123 on January 10, 2012, 03:37:42 AM
I'm glad the word Majority can be seen. Effectively changing it to 'all AoM' is putting words in my mouth.

I did?

I think we are all beginning to see why they teased you...
(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1396/snapshot1zo.png)

look at the first sentence of the third paragraph....

3 is by no means a majority.
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: LCADolby on January 10, 2012, 03:43:37 AM
I did?

I think we are all beginning to see why they made fun of you...
(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1396/snapshot1zo.png)

look at the first sentence of the third paragraph....

3 is by no means a majority.
Do you not understand a figure of speech?
Regardless
My list contains 4 Muppets, 1 V, 2KNs, and myself. That's a majority right there.
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: Ardy123 on January 10, 2012, 03:49:11 AM
Do you not understand a figure of speech?
Regardless
My list contains 4 Muppets, 1 V, 2KNs, and myself. That's a majority right there.

4 muppets out of how many muppets?  nope they have more than 7 players.

That being said, the fact that you are arguing with me about a joke Slash said tells me you need to take a step back and relax. Next time, squelch them, if that doesn't work, report them. There are facilities to deal with it.

The bigger issue is why do you have a problem with so many people? (4 muppets, 1 Vs, 2 Kns etc..)?

If it was one person or one squad that would be one thing, but KN have nothing to do with the Muppets, and I don't know who the "V" are (vtards maybe?).
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: LCADolby on January 10, 2012, 03:52:40 AM
Your right. I need to leave. Account Closed.
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: Ardy123 on January 10, 2012, 04:03:25 AM
Your right. I need to leave. Account Closed.

(hands dolby a drink)...Dolby, have a drink. Tomorrow will be a new day. Squelch them if you need too. See you in the skies, once an addict always an addict.
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: coombz on January 10, 2012, 05:16:51 AM
when I found out I was bipolar I didn't know whether to laugh or cry  :banana:


Dolby as a mate my advice would be don't let the immature types bother you, just .squelch :)  Although it is kinda fascinating in a sort of sad/twisted way...

I wasn't online at the time but I'm sure I can picture what happened only too well....we've all seen plenty of threads on the BBS where these 'wittiest players in the game' ( :lol ) backslap and circle jerk each other for 5+ pages  :cheers:  

keep up the good work boys!

Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: Shuffler on January 10, 2012, 10:40:20 AM
supposedly tobias and midway are one in the same....

 :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: Moelders on January 10, 2012, 12:01:47 PM
Isn't tobias midway?

EDIT: My guess is you poked sticks at them, and then received a bashing for doing so. Its not smart to start something you can't finish, esp against some of the games wittiest players.

No offence Dolby, but on many occasions, I have seen you antagonize people on 200. Often its just a whine about how you imagine that you were wrongly killed but it has been more than that too. Don't be surprised when some are willing to strike back. As kilo said, don't throw stones from a glass house.


No offense Ardy but Dolby is right on; and I experienced the same in the past 2 weeks especially w/the individuals he calls out. No stick pocking required...just killing them once.  I am far from perfect myself and get upset occasionally and fire off a whine but I get over it in 30 seconds, however Dolby's post ref the individuals that he has mentioned is pure and utter truth and they keep on and on and on for 30+ minutes.
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: DrBone1 on January 10, 2012, 01:23:04 PM
You muppets change game IDs like babys in diapers!   :D
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: Kingpin on January 10, 2012, 01:23:30 PM
Gentlemen (if the term applies),

This was not a discussion of who the a-holes in the game are.  This was an apology for my recent attitude and comments in the arena, caused more by game issues and NOT the usual 200 muck.  For the record, I am leaving of my own accord (not a ban) mainly because I am not enjoying the game play.

While I appreciate your comments bumping my apology so perhaps a few more could read it before I go, I respectfully request that you take your "which squad has the most a-holes" BS topic to another thread.

Thank you,

:salute and blue skies
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: DrBone1 on January 10, 2012, 01:24:38 PM
You will be back soon take care KINGPIN  :salute
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: Ardy123 on January 10, 2012, 01:26:36 PM
You muppets change game IDs like babys in diapers!   :D

 :rofl I can agree with that... :aok
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: Daddkev on January 10, 2012, 11:59:03 PM
 :noid :noid :noid Cya! :bhead :bhead :bhead
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: Bear76 on January 11, 2012, 12:37:49 AM
I will probably be tortured and killed for exposing squad secrets, but it must be told. We have an epidemic of menopause within the squad. The flight surgeon has been notified. Tell my wife and kids I love them............



















oh wait....I don't have any. :(
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: MrGeezer on January 11, 2012, 02:26:12 PM
I like to think that there's alittle a-hole hidden in everyone. hmmm hmmm.

I bet you did well in anatomy and physiology class.
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: SunBat on January 11, 2012, 04:29:28 PM
You muppets change game IDs like babys in diapers!   :D

Babies in diapers change game ID's?  How do they do it?  I want to know so I can see if that's how I do it.  Hey wait!  How do you know how I change my game ID?

Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: Ardy123 on January 11, 2012, 04:39:00 PM
You muppets change game IDs like babys in diapers!   :D

Babies in diapers change game ID's?  How do they do it?  I want to know so I can see if that's how I do it.  Hey wait!  How do you know how I change my game ID?

BabyBone == DrBones new name

'Cry me a shade'  :rofl  :D
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: LCADolby on January 15, 2012, 11:07:00 AM
Muppets are pretty impressive trolls.

Their new Muppetroll recruit's called... yes you guessed it;  :banana: <--- Banana
Title: Re: Too Grumpy
Post by: Bear76 on January 15, 2012, 12:14:55 PM
Some peoples heads are just easier to get into. :D