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Title: huggins boats
Post by: SpencAce on January 10, 2012, 10:17:47 AM
i think that it would be a good idea to add the higgins boats like the ones used in the normandy invasion.  i know that the first ting u all r gonna say is that we don't need it because we already have to lvts, but what i'm thinking is that we could make the higgins boats faster and less armement, and keep the lvts the same slow and heavily armored and armed tubs they've always been.  what i'm thinking for the higgins boats is, to make them about the same speed as a pt boat..   :bolt: maybe a little slower and it would carry the same amount of troops as the lvts.. sound good :banana:
Title: Re: huggins boats
Post by: dkff49 on January 10, 2012, 10:58:19 AM
I think the biggest problem is that there are VERY little towns that are close enough to the shore for a Higgins boat to get the troops to the map room. The troops only run so far.
Title: Re: huggins boats
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on January 10, 2012, 11:07:08 AM
Higgins boats carried more than ten men. Perhaps, since a Higgins boat is unarmed, it could have a larger number of different troops, say 20 or so, that could run further, and maybe do a little more. Or the Higgins boat could carry a light vehicle and 5 troops, creating the need for at least two Higgins boats working together.
Title: Re: huggins boats
Post by: wil3ur on January 10, 2012, 11:11:08 AM
+1 for Boat Hugs...  Everyone needs Hugs.
Title: Re: huggins boats
Post by: Rob52240 on January 10, 2012, 11:22:51 AM
I don't remember Higgins having a boat.  I'd like to have his roommate's Ferrari though.

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSEMShxMGGqctdz7OurP4A4U-Cn3hA68ZiDhE4WV4ffZlFFMUXV0rwxP7az)

 :bolt:
Title: Re: huggins boats
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on January 10, 2012, 12:04:02 PM
The Ferrari belonged to Higgins' boss, Robin Masters. And Thomas Magnum lived in the guest house.
Title: Re: huggins boats
Post by: caldera on January 10, 2012, 12:42:17 PM
"Zeus, Apollo - KILL!"   :lol
Title: Re: huggins boats
Post by: Rob52240 on January 10, 2012, 12:49:31 PM
The Ferrari belonged to Higgins' boss, Robin Masters. And Thomas Magnum lived in the guest house.

But I'm in the mid-west where possession is 11/10 of the law.  Plus.... could Higgins have possibly been Robin Masters?????
Title: Re: huggins boats
Post by: caldera on January 10, 2012, 01:01:37 PM
Nope - Orson Welles.  Higgins was called "Higgie-baby" by TC, though.  :D
Title: Re: huggins boats
Post by: MAINER on January 10, 2012, 02:32:19 PM
i think that it would be a good idea to add the higgins boats like the ones used in the normandy invasion.  i know that the first ting u all r gonna say is that we don't need it because we already have to lvts, but what i'm thinking is that we could make the higgins boats faster and less armement, and keep the lvts the same slow and heavily armored and armed tubs they've always been.  what i'm thinking for the higgins boats is, to make them about the same speed as a pt boat..   :bolt: maybe a little slower and it would carry the same amount of troops as the lvts.. sound good :banana:

LVTs are not heavily armored. A few pings from a machine gun and POOF!
Title: Re: huggins boats
Post by: Raptor05121 on January 10, 2012, 08:45:11 PM
it could have a larger number of different troops, say 20 or so,

if you up the number of troops carried, HTC will up the number of troops req'd for base capture.

LVTs drive faster than troops will run

troops only run so far

bad wish

-100
Title: Re: huggins boats
Post by: B-17 on January 10, 2012, 11:42:46 PM
+1 for Boat Hugs...  Everyone needs Hugs.

That's what i thought :lol
Title: Re: huggins boats
Post by: Shane on January 10, 2012, 11:52:34 PM
i think that it would be a good idea to add the higgins boats like the ones used in the normandy invasion.  i know that the first ting u all r gonna say is that we don't need it because we already have to lvts, but what i'm thinking is that we could make the higgins boats faster and less armement, and keep the lvts the same slow and heavily armored and armed tubs they've always been.  what i'm thinking for the higgins boats is, to make them about the same speed as a pt boat..   :bolt: maybe a little slower and it would carry the same amount of troops as the lvts.. sound good :banana:

sounds like someone doesn't have a clue, only a wish.

Higgins boat - speed 9kts (and 36 troops)
PT boat - speed 40 kts


Title: Re: huggins boats
Post by: Skyguns MKII on January 10, 2012, 11:59:39 PM
since a Higgins boat is unarmed

Higgins were armed at times if i understand correctly.
take this picture for example.
(http://i42.tinypic.com/bfpc8n.jpg)
Title: Re: huggins boats
Post by: Tank-Ace on January 11, 2012, 12:28:44 AM
You know what, if he can't even take the time to make sure the title is spelled correctly, he doesn't deserve his wish even if it DID have some merit.
Title: Re: huggins boats
Post by: Raphael on January 11, 2012, 12:32:35 AM
we all misspell


 :)
Title: Re: huggins boats
Post by: Tank-Ace on January 11, 2012, 12:34:28 AM
Yeah, but I can't take him seriously. A f%!@Q$& "Huggins" boat? What the hell is that  :bhead?
Title: Re: huggins boats
Post by: Shane on January 11, 2012, 12:53:39 AM
This is what got me...

"what i'm thinking for the higgins boats is, to make them about the same speed as a pt boat..    maybe a little slower and it would carry the same amount of troops as the lvts."

 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: huggins boats
Post by: B-17 on January 11, 2012, 01:12:48 AM
You know what, if he can't even take the time to make sure the title is spelled correctly, he doesn't deserve his wish even if it DID have some merit.

Hey, hey, hey....

Hello, pot. :D
Title: Re: huggins boats
Post by: AHTbolt on January 11, 2012, 07:44:30 AM
Another problem besides spelling the Higgings boat was never used at Normandy and they could not carry a vehicles, why not you say. Because the bow ramp was too narrow, the LCVP is what hes asking for, it could carry infantry or a jeep and trailer or cargo and was armed with 2 30cals and the bow door was armored.
Title: Re: huggins boats
Post by: AKP on January 11, 2012, 07:45:14 AM
Not wanting to rain on anyone's parade here... but sometimes the beach is out of "run range" for the troops.  I would kinda stink to get your boat to the beach, open the door, and just have them sit there.

Like the idea... but it wouldnt work for "all" amphibious landings.
Title: Re: huggins boats
Post by: AHTbolt on January 11, 2012, 08:07:43 AM
Sorry I should have stated early higgins boats and the LCVP were both made by the higgins boat company
Title: Re: huggins boats
Post by: Shane on January 11, 2012, 01:03:51 PM
Sorry I should have stated early higgins boats and the LCVP were both made by the higgins boat company

So were some PT boats.  :noid
Title: Re: huggins boats
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 11, 2012, 01:20:33 PM
Another problem besides spelling the Higgings boat was never used at Normandy and they could not carry a vehicles, why not you say. Because the bow ramp was too narrow, the LCVP is what hes asking for, it could carry infantry or a jeep and trailer or cargo and was armed with 2 30cals and the bow door was armored.

Higgin boats (LCVPs) were used in all theaters during the war by the Allies.

Story of LST 494's tour of duty in the ETO
LST 494 in the Europe Theater (http://lst494.freeyellow.com/LST_494___European_Theater.html)

(http://lst494.freeyellow.com/m9s8296.gif)
Soldiers of the 1st ID aboard a Higgins boat inbound to Omaha Beach.

ack-ack
Title: Re: huggins boats
Post by: AHTbolt on January 11, 2012, 02:40:30 PM
Sorry i see where i wasent clear. I was trying to compare the early higgins boats which had a narrow ramp to the higgins built LCVP which had the wide ramp. After the early landings in the Pacific the feedback led the Higgins company to square the bow and add the bigger ramp. I wasent saying that the landing craft wasent used just pointing out the differences between early and later modles.   
Title: Re: huggins boats
Post by: bangsbox on January 11, 2012, 04:32:10 PM
all for it but then we need 20 troops in the boat that i can strafe running across the beach lol
Title: Re: huggins boats
Post by: AHTbolt on January 11, 2012, 04:39:49 PM
But now if you add the LCM-3 you can land a halftrack with troops. That would be a winner I think.
Title: Re: huggins boats
Post by: Shane on January 11, 2012, 06:34:31 PM
But now if you add the LCM-3 you can land a halftrack with troops. That would be a winner I think.

LCT... may as well kill all the birds with one stone...   imagine... a tiger, a whirble, some other aa/afv support and an m3 w/troops...  wait til we get towable guns...  :noid 

no need for LSTs when you can launch multiple LCTs and LVT's.  LCMs too small - or rather too much troop space.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landing_craft_tank 
Title: Re: huggins boats
Post by: bangsbox on January 11, 2012, 08:45:08 PM
LCT... may as well kill all the birds with one stone...   imagine... a tiger, a whirble, some other aa/afv support and an m3 w/troops...  wait til we get towable guns...  :noid 

no need for LSTs when you can launch multiple LCTs and LVT's.  LCMs too small - or rather too much troop space.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landing_craft_tank 
nothing that help more then 1 tank should ever be added
Title: Re: huggins boats
Post by: AHTbolt on January 11, 2012, 09:33:43 PM
The LCM-3 had a 30 ton payload so you could land half-tracks, M-8s, wirbles, jeeps and add a Duce and a half and you could land field supplies, vehicle supplies and tow guns if we were to get them.
Title: Re: huggins boats
Post by: bangsbox on January 11, 2012, 10:53:39 PM
The LCM-3 had a 30 ton payload so you could land half-tracks, M-8s, wirbles, jeeps and add a Duce and a half and you could land field supplies, vehicle supplies and tow guns if we were to get them.

that would be fine if added... would be great picking off something more then lvts from the beach