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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: chaser on January 15, 2012, 05:48:19 PM
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Hey guys I gotta question that I know someone here will know the answer to.
I have an HTC Inspire through AT&T that I'm thinking about enabling the tethering on. I only need it for a couple months or I would just buy an aircard for my laptop. I can't justify spending $50/month for 2 years when I only need mobile internet for 2 months. I've searched the internet and can't find a definitive answer (though its quite possible I'm just missing it, pulled an all nighter bowling last night so I'm kinda :rolleyes: )
My question is, when the phone is tethered to a laptop can I still talk and text on it? I had a Samsung slider that wouldn't let me talk or text when it was tethered. Just curious if smartphones were capable of this.
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I have the same phone, I haven't tethered with it (no need anymore), but my old Samsung BlackJack I tethered quite often and was able to talk/text at the same time. I do recall an issue with the internet dropping out occasionally while talking and tethering, however that was an older phone and they may have improved in that area since then.
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In all seriousness, call ATT and ask them about it. You may need a special cable or a specific adapter for the computer to use it like a wifi signal. Also check to see if that will change the data plan. IIRC Verizon charges a different rate for that kind of set up vs just using the internet on the phone. You don't want to get hit with some heavy fees if they do charge differently.
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Download an app called "Easy Tether". It will do what you need :aok :salute
NOT
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edit: nm, it only works with Motorola :cry
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AT&T is the only provider that will allow you to use your data and talk connection at the same time.
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And don't steal like RPM.
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It's not stealing. I paid for unlimited data. ;)
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AT&T doesn't have an unlimited data plan. And... Hotspot is a $30 feature. Using a third party app to bypass their charge is most definitely stealing.
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AT&T doesn't have an unlimited data plan. And... Hotspot is a $30 feature. Using a third party app to bypass their charge is most definitely stealing.
Is it really stealing if you're taking something that ought to be free? Playing devil's advocate here.
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AT&T doesn't have an unlimited data plan.
They did until about a year ago. $19.99 a month.
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I can't help you.
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You have to pay for it through AT&T.
If your going to be mobil but close to wifi just get a plugin wifi if your lappy doesn't have wifi.
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AT&T doesn't have an unlimited data plan. And... Hotspot is a $30 feature. Using a third party app to bypass their charge is most definitely stealing.
ATT had it previously as did Verizon. Verizon dropped it right when they introduced the Iphone. However, both carriers grandfathered everyone in that already had unlimited data when they discontinued it.
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And don't steal like RPM.
Although he may be violating his agreement with the carrier, he is using the data network he is paying for. If he uses more than his account limit, then he still gets charged. Many carriers offered free 'tethering apps' until the realized they could charge double for the same service.
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AT&T is the only provider that will allow you to use your data and talk connection at the same time.
Not true anymore... This used to be true with how CDMA carriers had setup their service such that SMS and Voice were on different channels and Voice and Data used the same channel.
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AT&T doesn't have an unlimited data plan. And... Hotspot is a $30 feature. Using a third party app to bypass their charge is most definitely stealing.
Most providers check the browser tags to determine if the user is tethering (or simply use deep packet inspection). AT&T most likely could stop/identify this if they really cared (and I know some BU's within AT&T use Allot boxes for traffic management that do just this).
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Most providers check the browser tags to determine if the user is tethering (or simply use deep packet inspection). AT&T most likely could stop/identify this if they really cared (and I know some BU's within AT&T use Allot boxes for traffic management that do just this).
............... not going to say anything (lips sealed).
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If you do not have unlimited data it will go against your current data plan. Just root your phone and install wifi hotspot, gotta love Sprint and unlimited data. :devil
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I tether everyday because we're in a deadzone.
But, you can text while tethered altough it will be a heck of a lot slower, but you can't talk, your connection will drop.
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What OS are you usng on the phone? If its windows mobile, go into the phone settings and enable "internet connection sharing" and plug your phone into the pc using the USB cable. Works like a charm and you dont have to pay for the rip off tethering charge
Or see if you can share it via bluetooth connection
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I shoot you fools down in the arenas while tethered to a cheap blackberry on AT&T and never had a complaint of warping.
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And don't steal like RPM.
I don't consider it stealing... I overwrote the OS on my cellphone to erase the blocks that the cellphone carrier, NOT the manufacturer, placed on it. So, instead of paying $30 a month for 2 gigs maximum, I pay nothing for unlimited wifi tether. Yes, it voids the warranty on my cellphone but I've already saved enough money to purchase a new phone.
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I have ATT and grandfathered into unlimited data.
What I use for tethering is PDAnet. I found it to be a better app than easytether imo. I think ATT might have blocked you from downloading programs from the market such as PDAnet and Easytether to prevent people from tethering. The workaround is to disconnect from the internet completely (turn off the internet connection) and connect to a wifi from a wireless router somewhere and you can then download any apps that ATT might have blocked such as PDAnet. PDAnet allows you to either connect with a USB cable for tethering or a bluetooth connection if your laptop has it.
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PDAnet is the best and easy to use I have tried others and ended pying for PDAnet $17.13 with tax. I have no issues with lag solid 59-60 frame rate been using it now for 5 months. and thats what I only use to play the game, 8 hours of play used like 633 mb last I paid attention to it. I have the 4 gb plan and never go over and I spen roughfly 3-4 hours a day playing.
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You guys are probably right.... I just sell phones for a living; I don't actually know anything about them.
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I just sell phones for a living; I don't actually know anything about them.
That is certainly my experience with most salespersons.
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To respond to a few of the things I've seen in this thread..
I'm running Android 2.3.3.
I've seen PDAnet and the other apps but don't really want to go that route. It pisses me off that they the carriers charge to enable tethering but I don't think those apps are the way to go.
It's only $20 more a month to tether and my data limit doubles to 4GB. I'll pay $45 for 2-3 months before I commit to 2 years @ $50/month.
Today was a busy day, and I had to work some overtime, so tomorrow I'll drop by the AT&T store and see how it all works. I'll post what I find out for future reference to anyone who wants to know.
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There are some simple root tools available for 2.3.3
Once you root the device, you will get the wireless hotspot for free with a simple app download (while giving the app superuser access).
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AT&T doesn't have an unlimited data plan. And... Hotspot is a $30 feature. Using a third party app to bypass their charge is most definitely stealing.
actually it is not stealing, it's violating the terms of the contract. stealing is a criminal act while violating the terms of the contract is not.
semp
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That is certainly my experience with most salespersons.
Yeah do phone salesmen rank lower or higher than used car salesmen?
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I don't think "rank" plays a part in this. A salesperson can provide a necessary service, or be a parasite that tries to rip you off, like in most other trade crafts. However, they rarely possess an in depth knowledge of the product they sell. For that you need to do your own research and dig up info from other users etc. ... Why am I typing? You know this. :)
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You guys are probably right.... I just sell phones for a living; I don't actually know anything about them.
lol well many that work in the cell phone places are really not much on phones.
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Granted it is hard to keep up. If many of you presented the same attitude with me in my store as you have here I would probably fein ignorance too.
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Granted it is hard to keep up. If many of you presented the same attitude with me in my store as you have here I would probably fein ignorance too.
I found that the same folks that make my burgers seem to also sell me phones. I can understand that the folks who go into those phone stores can be the same type. lol
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Granted it is hard to keep up. If many of you presented the same attitude with me in my store as you have here I would probably fein ignorance too.
Who do you work for? I work in that industry too, I don't work for a carrier though, more on the engineering side of content delivery.
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Who do you work for? I work in that industry too, I don't work for a carrier though, more on the engineering side of content delivery.
The carriers are the ones who put all that overhead on a phone. Stuf many folks do not want or use. AT&T tech told me I have to root my phone to remove it.
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Who do you work for? I work in that industry too, I don't work for a carrier though, more on the engineering side of content delivery.
I manage a small electronics store that also handles three of the major carriers.
The carriers are the ones who put all that overhead on a phone. Stuf many folks do not want or use. AT&T tech told me I have to root my phone to remove it.
That tech support guy is risking his job by even mentioning the "r" word...
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To respond to a few of the things I've seen in this thread..
I'm running Android 2.3.3.
I've seen PDAnet and the other apps but don't really want to go that route. It pisses me off that they the carriers charge to enable tethering but I don't think those apps are the way to go.
It's only $20 more a month to tether and my data limit doubles to 4GB. I'll pay $45 for 2-3 months before I commit to 2 years @ $50/month.
Today was a busy day, and I had to work some overtime, so tomorrow I'll drop by the AT&T store and see how it all works. I'll post what I find out for future reference to anyone who wants to know.
Yes chaser... This is the best and most honest approach.
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That tech support guy is risking his job by even mentioning the "r" word...
Might be, but it's perfectly legal. There was a law which specifically allowed that, and last year it was added to DMCA exemptions as well, after Apple lost legal battle.
If tech loses his/her job over jailbreak suggestion, it can sue the hell out of employer.
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I manage a small electronics store that also handles three of the major carriers.
That tech support guy is risking his job by even mentioning the "r" word...
Might be, but it's perfectly legal. There was a law which specifically allowed that, and last year it was added to DMCA exemptions as well, after Apple lost legal battle.
If tech loses his/her job over jailbreak suggestion, it can sue the hell out of employer.
Ironically, when debugging issues with in-market devices, many OEMs (when carriers were present in the meetings) have suggested rooting devices with the plethora of tools on the internet.
At their core, there are all ARM based devices (mainly Cortex a8/9s) where almost all of them have 1 of 3 of the most common boot loaders. You could install your own OS on them if you wanted to. Furthermore, many still have the holes/pins on the board for a J-TAG connection... A few try to lock it with 'efi' locks, all of which can be circumvented.
The carriers are the ones who put all that overhead on a phone. Stuf many folks do not want or use. AT&T tech told me I have to root my phone to remove it.
That's only a half truth.
Many apps are developed to either be a showcase of the hardware or the carriers service. The carrier does have the final say, but often doesn't care and the white-labeled app will be burneded in from both OEM and Carrier. BE CAREFUL what apps you run, many of the carrier provided apps are 'opt out' deals, where if you run the app, you are entered into a trial period which then automatically turns into a monthly paid subscription which is tacked on your bill, unless you specifically contact your carrier and 'opt out'. Carriers love this as they get +30% of that cut and most people don't realize they are paying for it.
I have not tested it, but I bet you could do this on android...
get the android sdk tools and usb phone drivers...
from a shell type
>adb remount
>adb shell
>cd /data/data
>ls
This will list all the 'apps' installed on the device, from here you can just delete them.
> rm com.I.hate.this.preloaded.app (or whatever)
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Might be, but it's perfectly legal. There was a law which specifically allowed that, and last year it was added to DMCA exemptions as well, after Apple lost legal battle.
If tech loses his/her job over jailbreak suggestion, it can sue the hell out of employer.
actually he cant sue his employer. most likely he lives in an "at will" state, meaning he can be fired for any reason or no reason at all as long as it isnt discriminatory. I have a rooted phone and in my book it's ok but if i was his manager I would fired him only because people having rooted phones are not in the phone companies best interest. having said that, if I was the manager I would have my phone rooted too :D.
may sound like a hypocrite but at work i do what I am paid to do and that includes having my employer's interest at hand whether i agree with it or not. and if it comes to my employers interest's are not right then I will quit as I have done before.
semp
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actually he cant sue his employer.
He can. State he lives in does not matter. Proving that he was fired because he did something what's specifically allowed under federal law, is another matter.
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Can someone explain what "rooting a phone" is/does?
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Can someone explain what "rooting a phone" is/does?
google it. and be prepared to buy another phone if you make a mistake :D.
He can. State he lives in does not matter. Proving that he was fired because he did something what's specifically allowed under federal law, is another matter.
no he cant. trust me on this.
semp
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Yes he can. Even in "At Will" states you can't fire for reason which is discriminatory, retaliatory or otherwise illegal. This particular case would be under wrongful termination law: violation of public policy.
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Yes he can. Even in "At Will" states you can't fire for reason which is discriminatory, retaliatory or otherwise illegal. This particular case would be under wrongful termination law: violation of public policy.
Both of you are correct.
Bighorn is correct in that if he can prove his case, "at will" clauses don't indemnify employers from federal law.
Semp is correct in that most employers will officially state a 'BS' reason for firing someone that is not related to the real reason of the firing, and "at will" employment means the set of excuses that can be used is larger.
Can someone explain what "rooting a phone" is/does?
Most devices purchased from a phone carrier are 'locked'. IE, in order to provide the experience the carrier intended, they impose artificial restrictions (via software) on how the user can interact with the device (including what software can be installed and what aspects of the hardware the software can use). Rooting ones device allows for the owner of the device to utilize the device in any fashion they choose, install any application, access any aspect of the hardware, etc...
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virgin mobile has a 3g mifi 2200 (up to 5 wifi devices). It has different plans monthly and usage, no subscription needed. They also have a USB plug-in (single computer only). The USB plug-in seems easier and I wish I got this instead. The mifi 2200 does have a rechargable battery for about 1-2 hours, but you will need to power it with an A/C power adapter (for some reason the mifi 2200 won't communicate via. cell service if USB connection is plugged into the computer and mifi at the same time.)
I tried the mifi, but my cell reception wasn't great where I live. It does the job. You will need standard wireless g communication on your computer. The mifi connects to cell phone service just like a cell phone would and wirelessly connects to your computer via wifi.
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$50 a month for 2.5 gb at 3g after which you are throttled to 1x.