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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: SmokinLoon on January 16, 2012, 10:09:08 AM
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Currently I am running a Pentium Dual Core E2200 2.2GHz, and I'm thinking of buying a Pentium Dual Core E6700 3.2 GHz.
Are they interchangeable on the motherboard?
Any thoughts or comments on that E6700 3.2 GHz processor?
Thanks!
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Go to the MB manufacturers site and type.in your model. It will tell you which cpus it can take.
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Those are LGA775 processors so technically you should be able to pop in any LGA775 processor and be good to go. The problem is that some motherboards simply don't work well with processors that were made after the motherboard.
I ran into that problem with my old system.. after upgrading from an E6300 to an E7400 processor it refused to boot, even with its newest bios installed. I eventually found a "custom" bios that made it work but it was buggy with frequent lockups and crashes. I ended up putting the E6300 back in and giving that system to my brother while building a new system around the E7400.
If you want my honest opinion you should consider spending a few extra bucks and at least going for a Core 2 Duo processor instead of a Pentium (if your motherboard supports it). This is the next generation past that and the improvement of speed is well worth it. For example my 2.8GHz C2D E7400 will run circles around the 3.2GHz Pentium E6700 - and I actually have it overclocked to 3.15GHz with stock cooling and no ill effects.
From what I've read the E8400/E8500 are the best two C2D processors ever made in the socket LGA775 standard. Just keep in mind that even if you were to buy an E8500 you're still a couple of generations behind so you need to decide if the money spent in upgrading is even worth it. (versus putting that money aside for saving up for a new build) Also make sure your motherboard is 100% compatible with anything before you buy it.
If you can tell us what motherboard you have we may be able to help.
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the motherboard is a G31-M7TE.
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1> GO HERE: http://206.108.48.60/app/en/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=500 (http://206.108.48.60/app/en/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=500)
2> Select your MB version (top right corner)
3> Click on CPU Support
4> Enjoy the list of compatible CPUs.
Assuming you have the latest version here is the list of compatible processors:
If you plan to upgrade processor from your existing unit, please update bios first before changing or upgrading processors.
PCB Version : Ver. 6.7/6.8
Processor Processor Model sSpec/OPN# CPU Speed FSB/HT/BCLK Watts
Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor X6800 X6800 2.40 GHz 1066 Mhz 75W
Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q9550 SLB8V 2.83 GHz 1333 Mhz 95W
Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q9505s QMLU 2.83 GHz 1333 Mhz 65W
Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q9505 QMLT 2.83 GHz 1333 Mhz 95W
Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q9400s SLG9U 2.66 GHz 1333 MHz 65W
Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q9400 SLB6B 2.66 GHz 1333 Mhz 95W
Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q9300 SLAWE 2.50 GHz 1333 Mhz 95W
Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q8400s QLRY 2.66 GHz 1333 Mhz 65W
Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q8300 QLSG 2.50 GHz 1333 MHz 95W
Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q8300 QHJC 2.50 GHz 1333 Mhz 95W
Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q8200s SLG9T 2.33 GHz 1333 MHz 65W
Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q8200 SLG9S 2.33 GHz 1333 MHz 95W
Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q6700 SLACQ 2.66 GHz 1066 MHz 95W
Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q6600 SLACR 2.40 GHz 1066 Mhz 95W
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E8500 SLAPK 3.16 GHz 1333 Mhz 65W
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E8400 SLAPL 3.00 GHz 1333 Mhz 65W
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E8200 SLAPP 2.66 GHz 1333 Mhz 65W
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E7600 QLUH 3.06 GHz 1066 MHz 65W
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E7500 SLB9Z 2.93 GHz 1066 Mhz 65W
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E7400 SLB9Y 2.80 GHz 1066 Mhz 65W
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E7300 SLAPB 2.66 GHz 1066 MHz 65W
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E7200 SLAVN 2.53 GHz 1066 MHz 65W
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E6850 SLA9U 3.00 GHz 1333 Mhz 65W
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E6750 SLA9V 2.66 GHz 1333 Mhz 65W
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E6700 SL9S7 2.66 GHz 1066 Mhz 65W
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E6700 SL9ZF 2.66 GHz 1066 Mhz 65W
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E6600 SL9S8 2.40 GHz 1066 Mhz 65W
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E6600 SL9ZL 2.40 GHz 1066 Mhz 65W
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E6420 SLA4T 2.13 GHz 1066 Mhz 65W
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E6400 SL9S9 2.13 GHz 1066 Mhz 65W
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E6400 SL9T9 2.13 GHz 1066 Mhz 65W
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E6320 SLA4U 1.86 GHz 1066 Mhz 65W
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E6300 SL9TA 1.86 GHz 1066 Mhz 65W
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E6300 SL9SA 1.86 GHz 1066 Mhz 65W
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E6000 QLPP 3.46 GHz 1066 Mhz 65W
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E4700 SLALT 2.60 GHz 800 Mhz 65W
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E4500 SLA95 2.20 GHz 800 Mhz 65W
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E4400 SLA3F 2.00 GHz 800 Mhz 65W
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E4300 SL9TB 1.80 GHz 800 Mhz 65W
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E3000 QLVM 3.40 GHz 800 Mhz 65W
Intel® Pentium® Dual-Core E5400 SLB9V 2.70 GHz 800 Mhz 65W
Intel® Pentium® Dual-Core E5200 SLAY7 2.50 GHz 800 Mhz 65W
Intel® Pentium® Dual-Core E2220 SLA8W 2.40 GHz 800 MHz 65W
Intel® Pentium® Dual-Core E2160 SLA8Z 1.80 GHz 800 Mhz 65W
Intel® Pentium® Dual-Core E2160 SLA3H 1.80 GHz 800 Mhz 65W
Intel® Pentium® Dual-Core E2140 SLA93 1.60 GHz 800 Mhz 65W
Intel® Pentium® D processor 950 SL95V 3.40 GHz 800 Mhz 95W
Intel® Pentium® D processor 950 SL9K8 3.40 GHz 800 Mhz 95W
Intel® Pentium® D processor 945 SL9QB 3.40 GHz 800 Mhz 95W
Intel® Pentium® D processor 945 SL9QQ 3.40 GHz 800 Mhz 95W
Intel® Pentium® D processor 940 SL95W 3.20 GHz 800 Mhz 95W
Intel® Pentium® D processor 935 SL9QR 3.20 GHz 800 Mhz 95W
Intel® Pentium® D processor 930 SL95X 3.00 GHz 800 Mhz 95W
Intel® Pentium® D processor 930 SL94R 3.00 GHz 800 Mhz 95W
Intel® Pentium® D processor 925 SL9D9 3.00 GHz 800 Mhz 95W
Intel® Pentium® D processor 925 SL9KA 3.00 GHz 800 Mhz 95W
Intel® Pentium® D processor 805 SL8ZH 2.66 GHz 533 Mhz 95W
Intel® Pentium® Processor E6300 QLPZ 2.80 GHz 1066 MHz 65W
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 661 SL96H 3.60 GHz 800 Mhz 86W
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 661 SL8WF 3.60 GHz 800 Mhz 86W
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 661 SL94V 3.60 GHz 800 Mhz 86W
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 651 SL96J 3.40 GHz 800 Mhz 86W
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 651 SL8WG 3.40 GHz 800 Mhz 86W
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 651 SL94W 3.40 GHz 800 Mhz 86W
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 651 SL9KE 3.40 GHz 800 Mhz 65W
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 641 SL8WH 3.20 GHz 800 Mhz 86W
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 641 SL94X 3.20 GHz 800 Mhz 86W
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 641 SL9KF 3.20 GHz 800 Mhz 65W
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 641 SL96K 3.20 GHz 800 Mhz 86W
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 640 SL7Z8 3.20 GHz 800 Mhz 84W
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 640 SL8Q6 3.20 GHz 800 Mhz 84W
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 631 SL96L 3.00 GHz 800 Mhz 86W
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 631 SL9KG 3.00 GHz 800 Mhz 65W
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 631 SL8WJ 3.00 GHz 800 Mhz 86W
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 631 SL94Y 3.00 GHz 800 Mhz 86W
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 630 SL8Q7 3.00 GHz 800 Mhz 84W
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 630 SL7Z9 3.00 GHz 800 Mhz 84W
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 550 SL7PZ 3.40 GHz 800 Mhz 84W
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 540 SL7J7 3.20 GHz 800 Mhz 84W
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 540 SL7PX 3.20 GHz 800 Mhz 84W
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 540 SL7KL 3.20 GHz 800 Mhz 84W
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 530 SL7KK 3.00 GHz 800 Mhz 84W
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 530 SL7J6 3.00 GHz 800 Mhz 84W
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 524 SL9CA 3.06 GHz 533 Mhz 84W
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 524 SL8ZZ 3.06 GHz 533 Mhz 84W
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 520 SL7KH 2.80 GHz 533 Mhz 84W
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 520 SL7KJ 2.80 GHz 800 Mhz 84W
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 520 SL7J5 2.80 GHz 800 Mhz 84W
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 520 SL7J4 2.80 GHz 533 Mhz 84W
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 516 SL8PM 2.93 GHz 533 Mhz 84W
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 516 SL8J9 2.93 GHz 533 Mhz 84W
Intel® Celeron® Dual Core E1600 Q9DM 2.40 GHz 800 Mhz 65W
Intel® Celeron® D Processor 365 SL9KJ 3.60 GHz 533 Mhz 65W
Intel® Celeron® D Processor 360 SL9KK 3.46 GHz 533 Mhz 65W
Intel® Celeron® D Processor 356 SL96N 3.33 GHz 533 Mhz 86W
Intel® Celeron® D Processor 352 SL96P 3.20 GHz 533 Mhz 86W
Intel® Celeron® D Processor 351 SL7TZ 3.20 GHz 533 Mhz 84W
Intel® Celeron® D Processor 351 SL9BS 3.20 GHz 533 Mhz 73W
Intel® Celeron® D Processor 351 SL8HF 3.20 GHz 533 Mhz 84W
Intel® Celeron® D Processor 347 SL9XU 3.06 GHz 533 Mhz 86W
Intel® Celeron® D Processor 336 SL98W 2.80 GHz 533 Mhz 84W
Intel® Celeron® D Processor 336 SL8H9 2.80 GHz 533 Mhz 84W
Intel® Celeron® D Processor 336 SL7TW 2.80 GHz 533 Mhz 84W
Intel® Celeron® D Processor 335 SL7SU 2.80 GHz 533 Mhz 84W
Intel® Celeron® D Processor 331 SL98V 2.66 GHz 533 Mhz 84W
Intel® Celeron® D Processor 331 SL7TV 2.66 GHz 533 Mhz 84W
Intel® Celeron® D Processor 331 SL8H7 2.66 GHz 533 Mhz 84W
Intel® Celeron® Processor E3300 SLGU4 2.50 GHz 800Mhz 65W
Intel® Celeron® Processor 450 SLAFZ 2.20 GHz 800Mhz 35W
Intel® Celeron® Processor 430 SL9XN 1.80 GHz 800Mhz 35W
Intel® Celeron® Processor 420 SL9XP 1.60 GHz 800MHz 35W
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Nice. thanks! :aok
Did some checking and found an Intel Core 2 E7500 (2.93GHz), that is compatible with the MB for a decent price (I think) at Tiger Direct for $129.99 shipped. So what is being said is that the Core of lesser GHz is actually faster than a Pentium of higher GHz?
I'm being the typical consumer and wanting the most bang for the $$$. :)
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The GHz only tells the amount of calculations per second. The Front Side Bus tells how much information can be transferred to the motherboard at a given time. Think about it as a garden hose: You get a certain max pressure from the water outlet (processor MHz) to a 1/4" hose (FSB). Filling a bucket takes a certain amount of time (computing speed). Change the diameter of the hose to 1/2" and your bucket gets filled faster. In addition the walls of the bigger hose aren't subject to as much pressure, which enables them to be made thinner without sacrificing durability. If you have a bunch of hoses, thinner walls mean more hoses in a certain place, enabling more buckets to be filled in a given time.
Of course there are many more bottleneck places inside a computer. For best results each component should have the same bus width.
"There's nothing more important than gardening and even that isn't so important"
(Chinese proverb) :lol
BTW I originally had an E6750 which I sold on a net auction for €40 after buying an E8500 for €70 from someone who wanted a quad core...
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The GHz only tells the amount of calculations per second. The Front Side Bus tells how much information can be transferred to the motherboard at a given time. Think about it as a garden hose: You get a certain max pressure from the water outlet (processor MHz) to a 1/4" hose (FSB). Filling a bucket takes a certain amount of time (computing speed). Change the diameter of the hose to 1/2" and your bucket gets filled faster. In addition the walls of the bigger hose aren't subject to as much pressure, which enables them to be made thinner without sacrificing durability. If you have a bunch of hoses, thinner walls mean more hoses in a certain place, enabling more buckets to be filled in a given time.
Of course there are many more bottleneck places inside a computer. For best results each component should have the same bus width.
"There's nothing more important than gardening and even that isn't so important"
(Chinese proverb) :lol
BTW I originally had an E6750 which I sold on a net auction for €40 after buying an E8500 for €70 from someone who wanted a quad core...
Makes sense. The Intel Core 2 E7500 (2.93GHz) has a 1066 MHz FSB speed, and my G31-M7-TE MB gladly accepts it according to the Biostar website. My current Pentium Dual Core E2200 2.2GHz is 800 MHz FSB speed.
Just how much of an improvement am I going to notice in speed and/or graphics quality? My graphics card is a ATI Radeon HD 4650 1G DDR2 (PCI-E).
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Just a nit, but the frequency of a CPU is the number of T-states per second. Each instruction executes in X number of T-states.
This is where Intel got into performance troubles a few years ago with the Pentium designs. They kept upping the clock rates, but adding more T-states to each instruction until it got to the point they were running slower at 3Ghz, than a previous generation was at 2.4Ghz.
When the Core design came along, the real gains in performance was the reduction of T-states per instruction. It was substantial.
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There's a study made about people noticing differences in computer speed. I'm not sure about the details, but as a rule of thumb some 10% noticed a 20% raise, the rest 90% of test participants couldn't tell any difference until the speed was raised by over 50%. When I was planning my first computer upgrade, I was told to at least double the processor speed for a long time noticeably satisfying effect. Unfortunately today's processors don't have names which would clearly indicate the horsepower, but luckily there are benchmarking sites like Tom's Hardware (http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/charts/processors,6.html), and don't forget Wikipedia about Intel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_microprocessors) and AMD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_microprocessors) processors.
For upgrading, find out your motherboard's socket, look for the fastest models in a certain category (2 or more cores, e.g.) and double check if your motherboard accepts them. Then try to find one and buy it. And I repeat: There's always someone who wants to have the latest model with all bells and whistles, giving totally intact components away for a nominal price.
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Nice. thanks! :aok
Did some checking and found an Intel Core 2 E7500 (2.93GHz), that is compatible with the MB for a decent price (I think) at Tiger Direct for $129.99 shipped. So what is being said is that the Core of lesser GHz is actually faster than a Pentium of higher GHz?
I'm being the typical consumer and wanting the most bang for the $$$. :)
I'm still EXTREMELY happy with my E7400 (2.8GHz) and it runs Aces High very well with an ATI HD5830 Video card. No I can't crank shadows all the way up but it does handle 2048 shadow textures (as long as I keep other planes' shadows turned off). Personally I leave shadows off completely as I don't care how they look in the game.
I will add that I run the new MS Flight at MAX settings very well also. (Let's not turn this into a MS flight discussion) I'm just noting that even newer games perform well.
You should be very happy with the E7500. I have mine overclocked to 3.15GHz with stock cooling and it stays extremely stable and never even starts to get warm. You should easily be able to see 3.3-3.4GHz as well if you care about that sort of thing.
No it's no i5 or i7 but I think the bang for the buck factor is very good.
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I'm still EXTREMELY happy with my E7400 (2.8GHz) and it runs Aces High very well with an ATI HD5830 Video card. No I can't crank shadows all the way up but it does handle 2048 shadow textures (as long as I keep other planes' shadows turned off). Personally I leave shadows off completely as I don't care how they look in the game.
I will add that I run the new MS Flight at MAX settings very well also. (Let's not turn this into a MS flight discussion) I'm just noting that even newer games perform well.
You should be very happy with the E7500. I have mine overclocked to 3.15GHz with stock cooling and it stays extremely stable and never even starts to get warm. You should easily be able to see 3.3-3.4GHz as well if you care about that sort of thing.
No it's no i5 or i7 but I think the bang for the buck factor is very good.
my e8400 processor with single 9800gtx+ video card worked just as well as my sandy bridge 2500k and dual evga 465 cards. true I have 3 monitors now, but i dont really see any more eye candy than before in the game. nor do i see an increase in fps as it always stayed at 60 with everything on and shadows at 2048. but i see a big difference when editing videos. or even when looking at the films and i switch from full screen back to regular it cuts the time from literally 20 or 30 seconds to 1 or 2. that's the only reason i upgraded.
glad you are happy with yours :aok
semp
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Thanks for all the info, fellas. It is appreciated.
The local computer shop has an Intel Core Duo E7600 (3.06GHz) for $127, which is the same price as Tiger Direct's E7500 (2.93GHz), so I'm going to go ahead and get that for an CPU upgrade (it is compatible w/ my MB as well).
The same shop also has the ATI Radeon HD 5750 for $105, which is $10 cheaper tha nTD, so I'll go for that too [unless I hear Darth Vader howl out "NOOOOOOO!!!" hinthinthint].
Thanks again!
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About a year ago I found five Q9650s on Amazon used for an average of $199 each. I just looked and the Q9550 is available for $250 used. All of those I purchased are still working just fine though I havent pushed them through overclocking. The difference between it and the E8400 was not substantial for AH but it did speed up video processing and helped with certain other programs.
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I saw 5870 video cards on sale for $120 new ($125 with shipping) on a deal-a-day website a couple weeks ago. I really wanted to pick a few up but just couldn't foot the bill for it. It was an incredible price that's for sure!
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First the E6xxx Intel CPU's are Core 2 Duo processors unlike tigger stated in his first post. They are based on the Conroe core. The E7xxx IIRC are the lower FSB (1066) Core 2 Duo Wolfdales and the E8xxx are the higher FSB (1333) Core 2 Duo Wolfdales. The Wolfdales generally use less power, run cooler and have larger caches (more on that later). The E6xxx Conroes run the same 1333 FSB that the E8xxx Wolfdales do. Celeron CPU's and their newer equivalents typically run 800 FSB's by comparison.
The same CPU speed with a faster FSB will run faster and generally, within the Intel family, higher FSB speeds mean bigger caches which add speed to speed. Within limits I'd get a lower CPU speed with a higher FSB/bigger cache. It allows for more options.
FSB speed plays right into RAM speed. A Core 2 Duo CPU @ 1066 FSB only requires DDR 2 533 RAM. A 1333 FSB only requires DDR 2 667 RAM. So why do they make higher speed RAM? To accomodate overclocking of the CPU without bottlenecking it.
Fortunately, Intel makes very overclockable CPU's. A 20% overclock on stock cooling is pretty easily achievable.
I've got an E6750 (2.66 Ghz) overclocked to 3.2 Ghz (1600 FSB) synched to 4 Gb DDR2 800 RAM. It's run flawlessly for several years at around 50C under full load. I had it clocked to 3.6 Ghz or thereabouts for a while but backed it down for daily use. I can tell you for a fact that the E6xxx Conroes and E8xxx series Wolfdales are overclocking beasts.
Make sure you have all the information you need before making a decision. This will likely be the last upgrade to the machine you have before you'll have to transition to the newer generation Sandy Bridges. Make it count.
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Thanks for all the info, fellas. It is appreciated.
The local computer shop has an Intel Core Duo E7600 (3.06GHz) for $127, which is the same price as Tiger Direct's E7500 (2.93GHz), so I'm going to go ahead and get that for an CPU upgrade (it is compatible w/ my MB as well).
The same shop also has the ATI Radeon HD 5750 for $105, which is $10 cheaper tha nTD, so I'll go for that too [unless I hear Darth Vader howl out "NOOOOOOO!!!" hinthinthint].
Thanks again!
If your going to get the 5750 you need to get either a E8XXX or Q95XX to see the full potential of the card without bottlenecking it with an E7XXX CPU.
An E6850 Conroe is a better CPU than that E7600
A QXXXX will likely be held back by that board to make it not worth the $$ over an E8XXX
The best way to go with what you have would be the 5750 and an E8400, bang for buck in my opinion.
Of course ram, FSB, power supply etc. all come into play to.
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UPDATE!!!
Holy Moses! I bought and installed the Core Duo E7600 and the Radeon HD 5750 graphics card... :O What an amazing change! I can run AH with ALL of the graphics maxed out, and the difference is quite impressive. The FPS has yet to dip below 60, but I have not dive bombed in to fully smoking vehicle base yet, either. The local water reflections add a nice touch! :aok
Yeah, I spent $240 total in the upgrades but I will be good to go for a few years. The next thing will be to upgrade from 2 sticks of 1G DDR2 RAM to 2 sticks of 2 or 4G of DDR2 RAM, it is dirt cheap right now. :aok
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First the E6xxx Intel CPU's are Core 2 Duo processors unlike tigger stated in his first post.
When did I state that the E6xxx CPU's weren't Core 2 Duo? For sure my old E6300 was (at 1.86GHz)!
I did notice that later on another "E6300" processor was released that ran at 2.8GHz but was NOT a C2D processor.
Maybe this is what has confused you.
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UPDATE!!!
Holy Moses! I bought and installed the Core Duo E7600 and the Radeon HD 5750 graphics card... :O What an amazing change! I can run AH with ALL of the graphics maxed out, and the difference is quite impressive. The FPS has yet to dip below 60, but I have not dive bombed in to fully smoking vehicle base yet, either. The local water reflections add a nice touch! :aok
Yeah, I spent $240 total in the upgrades but I will be good to go for a few years. The next thing will be to upgrade from 2 sticks of 1G DDR2 RAM to 2 sticks of 2 or 4G of DDR2 RAM, it is dirt cheap right now. :aok
That's awesome! I laugh when I see people on here recommend i7 processors and dual video cards for $1500+ systems to run AH on. It really doesn't need all of that and I'm still not sold on SLI/Crossfire technology (unless you run multiple displays). If the most intensive thing you use your computer for is AH you can have a system that runs it quite well with nearly all settings maxed for a few hundred dollars.
I think you made the right decision! Congrats!
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UPDATE!!!
Holy Moses! I bought and installed the Core Duo E7600 and the Radeon HD 5750 graphics card... :O What an amazing change! I can run AH with ALL of the graphics maxed out, and the difference is quite impressive. The FPS has yet to dip below 60, but I have not dive bombed in to fully smoking vehicle base yet, either. The local water reflections add a nice touch! :aok
Yeah, I spent $240 total in the upgrades but I will be good to go for a few years. The next thing will be to upgrade from 2 sticks of 1G DDR2 RAM to 2 sticks of 2 or 4G of DDR2 RAM, it is dirt cheap right now. :aok
WTG Loon.
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When did I state that the E6xxx CPU's weren't Core 2 Duo? For sure my old E6300 was (at 1.86GHz)!
I did notice that later on another "E6300" processor was released that ran at 2.8GHz but was NOT a C2D processor.
Maybe this is what has confused you.
If you want my honest opinion you should consider spending a few extra bucks and at least going for a Core 2 Duo processor instead of a Pentium (if your motherboard supports it). This is the next generation past that and the improvement of speed is well worth it. For example my 2.8GHz C2D E7400 will run circles around the 3.2GHz Pentium E6700 - and I actually have it overclocked to 3.15GHz with stock cooling and no ill effects.
E6700 is also Core 2 Duo. I'm not confused.
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Bald, you still running your 6750? I'm about to retire mine due to instability issues I can't put my finger on. The comp only screws up running AH so I'll be donating it to my daughter. Long live the under-appreciated 6750!
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Bald, you still running your 6750? I'm about to retire mine due to instability issues I can't put my finger on. The comp only screws up running AH so I'll be donating it to my daughter. Long live the under-appreciated 6750!
Yep. Mine's still going strong. If the game ever dropped under 60 fps for me I might consider doing something but it doesn't so no need until it does.
Been thinking about trying to OC my video card though to see if I could run smooth shadows. That's the only thing my old 512 mb 8800 GTS won't handle. Otherwise I'm maxed graphics at 1024 hi res textures and it looks fine.
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That's awesome! I laugh when I see people on here recommend i7 processors and dual video cards for $1500+ systems to run AH on. It really doesn't need all of that and I'm still not sold on SLI/Crossfire technology (unless you run multiple displays). If the most intensive thing you use your computer for is AH you can have a system that runs it quite well with nearly all settings maxed for a few hundred dollars.
I think you made the right decision! Congrats!
On the other hand, I tested the same video transcode on my i7 2600k vs. my older E8400, and it did in 1 hour 20 minutes what took the older computer 12.5 hours. I call that extremely significant. But the gains in AH are much more limited.
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E6700 is also Core 2 Duo. I'm not confused.
I just don't understand what you meant when you said the following:
First the E6xxx Intel CPU's are Core 2 Duo processors unlike tigger stated in his first post.
When did I state that the E6xxx Intel CPU wasn't a Core 2 Duo?
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I saw 5870 video cards on sale for $120 new ($125 with shipping) on a deal-a-day website a couple weeks ago. I really wanted to pick a few up but just couldn't foot the bill for it. It was an incredible price that's for sure!
Those are LGA775 processors so technically you should be able to pop in any LGA775 processor and be good to go. The problem is that some motherboards simply don't work well with processors that were made after the motherboard.
I ran into that problem with my old system.. after upgrading from an E6300 to an E7400 processor it refused to boot, even with its newest bios installed. I eventually found a "custom" bios that made it work but it was buggy with frequent lockups and crashes. I ended up putting the E6300 back in and giving that system to my brother while building a new system around the E7400.
If you want my honest opinion you should consider spending a few extra bucks and at least going for a Core 2 Duo processor instead of a Pentium (if your motherboard supports it). This is the next generation past that and the improvement of speed is well worth it. For example my 2.8GHz C2D E7400 will run circles around the 3.2GHz Pentium E6700 - and I actually have it overclocked to 3.15GHz with stock cooling and no ill effects.
From what I've read the E8400/E8500 are the best two C2D processors ever made in the socket LGA775 standard. Just keep in mind that even if you were to buy an E8500 you're still a couple of generations behind so you need to decide if the money spent in upgrading is even worth it. (versus putting that money aside for saving up for a new build) Also make sure your motherboard is 100% compatible with anything before you buy it.
If you can tell us what motherboard you have we may be able to help.